Flying imams case is settled at our expense
October 24th, 2009 – 7:14 PMThe “flying imams” and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) are declaring victory in their legal war against law-enforcement personnel and safety procedures at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. Their “victory” — aided and abetted by a judge arrogantly dismissive of law-enforcement realities — is a major setback for transportation safety.
The case made news three years ago when the six imams were removed from a U.S. Airways jet after passengers and airline employees reported that the six were engaging in suspicious behavior, including changing seats into a so-called 9/11 pattern; cursing the United States and its conflict with Saddam Hussein; chanting “Allah, Allah” when boarding was called, and unnecessarily requesting seat-belt extenders that could be used as weapons.
The imams were questioned and released. Subsequently, they sued U.S. Airways, the Metropolitan Airports Commission (MAC), the officers involved and even passengers they suspected of reporting their behavior, until an outraged, bipartisan Congress passed a law giving the passengers immunity.
Last week, a settlement was announced in the case. Details remain confidential, and the judge must approve the agreement. But the parties have said publicly that — though there is no admission of guilt or fault — money will change hands. MAC’s insurance company exercised its right to take charge of the defense and chose to settle, according to MAC spokesman Patrick Hogan.
No wonder. In a ruling this summer, U.S. District Judge Ann Montgomery pinned the law-enforcement officials involved to the wall — one from the FBI and six from MAC — second-guessing their conduct with the luxury of a Monday-morning quarterback.
When the officers were summoned to Flight 300 on Nov. 20, 2006, they believed that passengers might be in danger, and they had to make quick decisions based on limited information. Montgomery, in contrast, had the opportunity to review hundreds of pages of briefs, depositions and exhibits before concluding — in hindsight — that the officers had erred in detaining the imams. After hearing lawyers’ arguments, she deliberated for almost three months before penning a 47-page dissertation on what, in her view, the officers should or shouldn’t have done that day.
Most important, she — unlike the officers — knew with the benefit of hindsight that passengers had not been in danger.
On July 24, 2009, Montgomery issued her ruling. “No reasonably competent officer,” she wrote, could have believed he was acting legally by detaining and questioning the imams in a way that, in her view, amounted to an “arrest.” The fact that at least 15 officers involved in the incident — from the MAC, the Federal Air Marshal Service, the FBI and the Secret Service — had all apparently believed they were acting appropriately and responsibly did not appear to give her pause. The MAC officers, Montgomery ruled, were actually guilty of a “willful or malicious wrong.”
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, worries about the impact of a settlement reached under such circumstances.
“Terrorism operates on fear,” says Jasser. “Transportation authorities don’t know when, where or how terrorists will strike, so they must be vigilant.” After this settlement, he adds, the men and women charged with protecting the public will have to contend with a “competing fear” as they make tough decisions: “They may ask, ‘If I detain and question someone who is acting suspiciously, will I cost my employer thousands of dollars, or even lose my job?’”
This chilling effect may lead to risky changes in airport security policies and pilot training, Jasser warns. As a result, officials may miss “vital nuances” in behavior that put the rest of us in danger.
Despite a potential increase in safety risks at the airport, is the flying imams’ settlement at least a victory for Muslim civil rights, as CAIR has declared? On the contrary, says Jasser — a Muslim — it’s a victory for the legal strategy of “victimization,” which grievance groups have often employed to “shake down” defendants. CAIR and the imams dismiss national security concerns, he says, in order to portray airport security measures as motivated by ethnic and religious bigotry. In the process, they ignore the central role of suspicious behavior and cast themselves as victims of irrational bias.
This obsession with victimization leads CAIR and the imams to ignore Muslims’ real interests, Jasser adds.
“Muslims have responsibility for religious reform, aimed at removing the fuel that powers the growth of radical Islam. We will have succeeded when we no longer see arrests for terrorist-related activities — as we did recently in Denver, New Jersey and Boston,” he says.
“The real victory for Muslims will come when the cancer of political Islamist ideology, which feeds terrorism, disappears.”
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“No reasonably competent officer,” she wrote, could have believed he was acting legally by detaining and questioning the imams in a way that, in her view, amounted to an “arrest.”
Great, now we have to worry about the meaning of “arrest” is.
I think we’re taking the whole, “depends what the meaning of “is,” “is.” thing…..
Just a little too far
“it’s a victory for the legal strategy of “victimization,” which grievance groups have often employed to “shake down” defendants”
Agreed. The imams did everything to attract attention to themselves but tape “Arrest Me I am a Terrorist” posters to their backs. Judge Annie is a tool.
The “flying imams” and the Council on
WHEEEeeeeee!! It’s as if Katherine never left…. 2003.
aided and abetted by a judge arrogantly dismissive of law-enforcement realities
Does this mean he the judge was being conservative or activist by following the law as written? It’s so hard to keep up.
And don’t you always hate it when a judge rules on the law and not the “realities” of what the poor paranoid public must bear - “were engaging in suspicious behavior, including changing seats into a so-called 9/11 pattern.”
What the H@LL is a 9/11 seating pattern, and how did these passengers know WTF it was, and how could a judge rule against THAT?? Seriously?
And I didn’t think it possible to miss the BQ.
The imams did everything to attract attention to themselves but tape “Arrest Me I am a Terrorist” posters to their backs.
It was so much easier when you could just round them all up and throw them in camps.
“What the H@LL is a 9/11 seating pattern, and how did these passengers know WTF it was”
Ya, I wondered about that too. I just figured it was another “KKism”.
“It was so much easier when you could just round them all up and throw them in camps”
Well, the Japanese-Americans didn’t board plans chanting “Tora, Tora, Tora” or sit in a Pearl Harbor configuration when they took their seats and they still ended up in camps. These guys were very upfront and in your face with their politics. Almost like they were asking for it. I’m all for civil liberty, DD, but this is a case of sticking it to the Man.
“And I didn’t think it possible to miss the BQ”
Now you’re starting to sound like parthian.
Now you’re starting to sound like parthian.
Starting?
That implies it’s new.
These guys were very upfront and in your face with their politics
They were praying.
I guess I’ll have to read the opinion for myself. Ultimately KK may be right, but I also know it’s just as likely she would have concluded Rosa Parks was just an uppity rabblerouser.
Does this mean he the judge was being conservative or activist by following the law as written? It’s so hard to keep up.
Exactly which law are you referring to?
What the H@LL is a 9/11 seating pattern
It’s a seating pattern which matches the strategic seating pattern of the terrorists on 9/11. Duh.
and how did these passengers know WTF it was
Perhaps they paid close attention to the details of what happened on 9/11.
and how could a judge rule against THAT??
No one was asking the judge to rule against the Imams, just to understand what the security forces had to deal with. Just because the Imams were completely innocent doesn’t mean that the security forces were guilty. They did their job.
How would you feel if we found out that security had been notified that the 9/11 terrorists had been acting suspiciously and had done nothing? You would be outraged that they had done nothing. This judge has essentially encouraged security to give the benefit of the doubt first and do their job second. If you’re comfortable with that, great. The rest of us would like to feel safe flying (when the pilots aren’t falling asleep (or arguing) and missing cities by 150 miles…).
The whole thing is the result of extremism and it’s fueld by paranoia.
The Imams for trying to force thier lifestyle.
The other passengers for being paranoid fueled by the extremism of multimedia.
The cops for having to contend with the extremism of both sides.
People need to get a grip. The insanity of the two extremes are causing idiotic decisions to be made.
MAC’s insurance company exercised its right to take charge of the defense and chose to settle
This is the real issue here.
First, we’ll never know what an appeals court would have ruled.
Second, the decision to settle reduces the case to nothing more than a cost-benefit an@lysis that has everything to do with protecting profits and nothing to do with justice.
One must wonder why Katherine spends so many column inches blasting Judge Montgomery, whose ruling could have been appealed and whose opinions could have been examined by a higher court, but gives MAC’s insurance company little more than a passive mention.
How would you feel if we found out that security had been notified that the 9/11 terrorists had been acting suspiciously and had done nothing?
So the only options were to kick them off the flight or do nothing? I agree with Greg63, the insanity of the two extremes are causing idiotic decisions to be made.
As to your hypothetical of security being notified that the original 9/11 hijackers were acting suspiciously, a quick security check would have found box cutters on them and they could have been detained based on that. Hijackers need weapons to have any chance, and the Imams obviously had none.
It’s a seating pattern which matches the strategic seating pattern of the terrorists on 9/11. Duh.
So you know what this seating pattern is? Please, do tell.
Exactly which law are you referring to?
That was sloppy wording on my part. The judge was referring to the constitution. The first amendment. Freedom to express one’s religion. Maybe you could lobby to have an asterisk added; *Not when it makes people uncomfortable in public.
Removing them from the flight because their open display of religion made passengers uncomfortable is what you’re saying should be okay. Constitutionally speaking the judge disagreed.
Did rush just pull a “Dan Rather” on the president?
“Rush Was Punked: “Obama Thesis” Hoax”
“Supposedly titled “Aristocracy Revisited,” the excerpt revealed the president had “doubts” about the “so-called founders.” Juicy. Except not true. Limbaugh discovered halfway through his show that he’d been had, but defended himself by saying basically the thesis felt true.”
“cursing the United States and its conflict with Saddam Hussein; chanting “Allah, Allah” when boarding was called, and unnecessarily requesting seat-belt extenders that could be used as weapons.”
Right on, Downtown Danno. Sounds like praying to me too.
“Hijackers need weapons to have any chance, and the Imams obviously had none.”
If your going to search them you need to detain them for some time. You can’t hold up the flight so my guess they Would have had to take another plane anyhow. Whether you call it kicked off or moved to another flight, I’m sure they would have sued regardless.
“Maybe you could lobby to have an asterisk added; *Not when it makes people uncomfortable in public.”
*Not when they are wearing turbines
♪♫ fixed it ♪♫
“It was so much easier when you could just round them all up and throw them in camps. ”
yeah, those were the days. but i guess we have to “tolerate” a cheap 3rd rate violence prone knockoff religion like islam.
if i am at an airport and see a bunch of third world, towel-headed savages parading around like freaks, whose kinsman are responsible for the recent mass murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent lives, im not going on that flight and will demand compensation for my wasted time, if they are not removed.
it sounds like a perfect ruling for those of us that are forced to live under obomunism
“Maybe you could lobby to have an asterisk added; *Not when it makes people uncomfortable in public.”
hmm , lets count the religions where the practicing it in public makes people nervous …. hinduism , naw, judaism … nope, catholism, dont think so , mithraism ??, probably not … islam ? you know the religion whose adherents spend so much time and body parts blowing up non-believers ??? yeah , i think that may be the one .. context my friends is everything.
stevek lets not forget those Buddhists. nothing make me more uncomfortable than a bunch of fat people sitting around leg crossed half dressed. Gives me the ebie jebies.
As to your hypothetical of security being notified that the original 9/11 hijackers were acting suspiciously, a quick security check would have found box cutters on them and they could have been detained based on that.
I believe that at the time, box cutters were allowed in the cabin. It was only after discovering that “mere” box cutters were sufficient weaponry for hijacking a plane that they were relegated to checked luggage.
whose kinsman are responsible for the recent mass murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent lives,
Sure you’re not talking about Blackwater?
it sounds like a perfect ruling for those of us that are forced to live under obomunism
It sounds like an awful ruling for those of you who would consider yourselves in an earlier time Good Germans.
context my friends is everything.
What religion was Timothy McVeigh again?
But I suppose you’d rather the asterisks on the First Amendment have a second, double asterisks, that says, “Only applies to Muslims.” What could go wrong?
Maybe you could rename ourselves to the United States of Paranoid Bedwetters while you’re at it. Here’s a bumper sticker for you, “F__k America, I’m SCARED!”
context my friends is everything.
Yes, context matters. But we must be careful that we don’t pull things out of context.
Many people fear the unknown. But that does not mean that all people who publically display unfamiliar customs are criminals.
I believe that at the time, box cutters were allowed in the cabin.
Yes, but add that to “acting suspicious” (as our hypothetical example suggested) and that quick security check starts finding more aspects of their story to question and reasons to detain.
“If your going to search them you need to detain them for some time. You can’t hold up the flight so my guess they Would have had to take another plane anyhow. Whether you call it kicked off or moved to another flight, I’m sure they would have sued regardless. ”
I think they should’ve detained all the idiots .. Imams and accusers.
Throw them all in a room and let ‘em sort it out.
Then watch all the pie holes seal shut.
There was nothing stopping those paranoid folks not praying to ask the prayers what was going on .. NOTHING.
Instead they raise a panic alert and freak the prayers out and put them on the defensive causing them to get idiotic as well.
The cops get stuck in the middle of all this and have to follow their procedures.
If you wanna ‘blame’ anyone, blame the misinformation terrorists on our airwaves stirring up paranoia in both directions.
““Only applies to Muslims.” What could go wrong?”
sounds good to me
“What religion was Timothy McVeigh again?”
cherry picking
“Here’s a bumper sticker for you, “F__k America, I’m SCARED!” ”
i think you misinterpreted the emotion.
“*Not when they are wearing turbines”
and Dockers pants ..
those things give me the eebee jeebees.
“stevek lets not forget those Buddhists. nothing make me more uncomfortable than a bunch of fat people sitting around leg crossed half dressed. Gives me the ebie jebies. ”
you have a good point gobo, especially if you have a windows seat and they are oozing out of the seat next to you pinning you to the window.
i think you misinterpreted the emotion.
Okay, let’s try this then: “F__K America, vengeance is MINE!”
“Many people fear the unknown. But that does not mean that all people who publically display unfamiliar customs are criminals. ”
very true eb. the concern that people have is that these customs, and adherence to said customs, are only all too familiar.
the ruins of the trade towers, and the number of innocent lives taken, the families of unbelievers shattered and fear instilled in the weak, are all considered good fruit produced by the devout follower who also reportedly chanted allegiance to the same god moments before committing mass murder.
“Okay, let’s try this then: “F__K America, vengeance is MINE!” ”
lol, now were talking dan, much better.
Hi, all,
One question I don’t recall seeing: were the imams U.S. citizens?
One question I don’t recall seeing: were the imams U.S. citizens?
Interesting question, but it’s probably a moot point as the Constitution and the Bill of Rights doesn’t apply to “people,” it applies to the Federal government, i.e. what the government is not allowed to do.
Hi, all,
Dan, I agree; your point is well taken, according to the Tenth Amendment. That said, I think it does make a difference if the imams were / are citizens: if they were not / are not, what standing have they to sue in a court anywhere in the U.S.?
if they were not / are not, what standing have they to sue in a court anywhere in the U.S.?
Not being a citizen only deprives someone of the ability to vote. They can still sue anyone.
[W]ere the imams U.S. citizens?
I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that they were citizens at the time of the incident.
Hi, all,
Thanks, Dan and EBF, for the info. Two thoughts here:
1, If I were in another country, and claimed I got treated like the imams claim they were here, how much chance would I have to sue?
2, I have a sneaking suspicion (note: suspicion) that the truth of the old saw, “the squeaky wheel gets the grease,” is being illustrated here.
Grant for the moment that the vast majority of Moslem immigrants here in the Twin Cities are peace loving people who just want a quiet life. They don’t raise a fuss (in fact the year my block club won an award from the city, one of the block clubs was a Somali block club of the Seven Corners neighborhood), and just want to get along. Their children and grandchildren will very likely slowly assimilate. They’ll be little or no trouble to anyone, I bet.
The trouble, as I see it, is that some people (not just the flying imams and not just the Moslems) get on their high horses, think they’re entitled to special treatment, and make a fuss. Do they not realize that this helps heighten “anti-furriner” sentiments — (which I believe are present anyway)? Why pour gasoline on a fire?
“Do they not realize that this helps heighten “anti-furriner” sentiments — (which I believe are present anyway)? Why pour gasoline on a fire? ”
Agreed .. 2 wrongs do not make a right.
We need to stop feeding fuel to both sides that cause the argument.
Again, extremism is what caused an attack on our country at the beginning of the century …
we should realize that there should not be a place for it.
If I were in another country, and claimed I got treated like the imams claim they were here, how much chance would I have to sue?
I’m afraid such a question is irrelevant to the issue at hand, FC. The debate isn’t about the American justice system vs. some other country’s justice system. Rather, the debate is about whether the outcome of the “Flying Imams” case was equitable and in everyone’s best interests.
I agree with you about the squeaky wheel, however.
1, If I were in another country, and claimed I got treated like the imams claim they were here, how much chance would I have to sue?
Depends if you’re talking about Canada/England/France (Western democracies) or Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Libya. Which club to you think we should aspire to be more like?
Interestingly enough there’s a great movie on TCM today …
Inherit the Wind
im thinking the whole flying imam debacle was a calculated attempt from some islamic quarters to get security to back off and take heat off some future martyr, should the opportunity arise.
I’ll agree it was calculated, stevek, but not for the reason you suggest. I think it was a shake down. The imams were purposefully provocative, they intended to cause a scene, given the level of paranoia in the airports at that time(Threat Level Orange!), and they intended to profit from it. It doesn’t take an einstein to realize their actions would provoke a response from the authorities. They took a calculated risk and won.
They could have prayed without attracting so much attention to themselves. In my opinion, it wasn’t their desire to express themselves through their religion that motivated their actions. They wanted to game the system, and they were successful.
Because fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy, and needs feeding.
“Because fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy, and needs feeding”
Agreed, Greg. They took what was out there and used it. Clever, but irritating.
“and they intended to profit from it. It doesn’t take an einstein to realize their actions would provoke a response from the authorities. They took a calculated risk and won.”
ill agree there was an element of profiteering involved. it was a victory on multiple levels.
“Agreed, Greg. They took what was out there and used it. Clever, but irritating. ”
That was a quote from a movie (the one I mentioned previously) ..
and yes, it is clever and irritating ..
on both sides of the coin.
There’s alot of good quotes in that movie ..
“and yes, it is clever and irritating ..
on both sides of the coin. ”
and sometimes g, good men must decide to stand up to evil.
“and yes, it is clever and irritating ..”
No chance of writing a law to prevent it either.
“ill agree there was an element of profiteering involved. it was a victory on multiple levels.”
Keep them focused on airplanes?
and sometimes g, good men must decide to stand up to evil.
Even if it requires a proxy for our vengeance. It’s the tough posturing that counts.
“It’s the tough posturing that counts. ”
id even be encouraged by tough posturing the obomunist administration.
It’s the tough posturing that counts.
No truer words these days!
“Keep them focused on airplanes? ”
no, just trains and automobiles … it keeps people second guessing themselves and prevents others from coming forward and contacting authorities. its an attempt to have security start thinking its too much of a hassle to do their jobs properly.
its an attempt to have security start thinking its too much of a hassle to do their jobs properly.
You’ve obviously not flown in a while. Water bottles are bombs and grannies remove shoes.
“The real victory for Muslims will come when the cancer of political Islamist ideology, which feeds terrorism, disappears.”
Great point Katherine!
The passenger’s right to feel safe should outweigh the Flying Iman’s “right” to pull this stunt under direction from CAIR (Council on American Islamist Relations). We will now be less safe in transportation under fear of frivolous lawsuits like this, similar to how doctors are performing many unnecessary and expensive tests to cover their asses in the event of a lawsuit, driving up healthcare costs.
and grannies remove shoes.
And everyone else.I can’t remember the last time I didn’t. It’s SOP going through the line.
My wife and I visit the Bayfield Wisconson, the last weekend before the town basically shuts down. We stopped at one of the Scandinavian shops and out of curiosity I looked at some of the Authentic Norwegian Sweaters. I couldn’t believe it! Even these are all made in communist China these days. I guess slave labor is the way to go!
The passenger’s right to feel safe should
Feeling safe is not a right.
We will now be less safe in transportation under fear of frivolous lawsuits like
Those pesky civil rights. Now future terrorists will know they can draw all sorts of attention to themselves as they board planes and nobody’s going to stop them from… what exactly? Carrying nail clippers of mass destruction?
I couldn’t believe it! Even these are all made in communist China these days. I guess slave labor is the way to go!
As if you’ve never heard about Wal-Mart?
As if you’ve never heard about Wal-Mart?
They haven’t come to Big Lake yet. So they don’t exist.
“Those pesky civil rights.”
They can be a bitch!
“You’ve obviously not flown in a while. Water bottles are bombs and grannies remove shoes. ”
a few times a year. thats just a horse an pony show. noone really thinks grandama is going to pull a richard reed. they just have to be “fair” and inconvenience everyone instead of just the most likely suspects. it is what it is.
Downtown Dem, when I was in Paris a few years ago, I tried not to advertise the fact that I was an American if possible because of all the anti-Americanism going on. The Flying Imams should have been curtious the same way, enough to realize that Americans were still very sensative to suspicious behavior on flights, but instead they knew how to push the buttons of the passengers and pulled off this stunt brilliantly to their financial gain and the lowering of our security.
People should be outraged!
I tried not to advertise the fact that I was an American if possible because of all the anti-Americanism going on. The Flying Imams should have been curtious the same way,
Oh please… you didn’t hide that you were an American because you were being courteous, you hid that you were American because you were afraid. The Imams, as devout Muslims, pray five times a day and probably didn’t even think about it.
“As if you’ve never heard about Wal-Mart?”
Yes I have, as well as Menards where 9 out of 10 items (probably much more) are made in communist China.
What amazes me is that Authentic Norwegian Sweaters are now all made in Communist China as well. My liberal friends blame conservatives for shipping jobs overseas, but the Norwegian Welfare State funded by Big Oil is about a Soci@list as you can get, and they are shipping their jobs to China.
“pray five times a day and probably didn’t even think about it.”
Most people don’t buy that D.T.
“when I was in Paris a few years ago, I tried not to advertise the fact that I was an American if possible ”
Why am I visualizing the american version of ..
clouseau?
“Why am I visualizing the american version of ..
clouseau?”
You forgot to say dressed like Nancy Reagan clothing Greg. You fantacize about stuff like that a lot.
“You forgot to say dressed like Nancy Reagan clothing Greg. You fantacize about stuff like that a lot. ”
No.
But you’d probably be dressed like some famous french actress ..
I think the Flying Imam’s should have been the one’s getting sued if not penalized for disrupting the other passengers travel plans. No way in hell should they be getting possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars from a frivolous lawsuit.
“I think the Flying Imam’s …”
The first two words of that statement make the rest of it void …
it is not true.
Go figure Liberal Greg….
It’s politically correct liberals like you who made it possible for the Flying Imam’s to pull this off.
Goodnight all!
And Goognight Greg Bob.
“It’s politically correct liberals like you who made it possible for the Flying Imam’s to pull this off. ”
Nah ..
it’s extremist morons spreading misinformation that allow it to happen.
Here’s a prime source of misinformation:
“The real victory for Muslims will come when the cancer of political Islamist ideology, which feeds terrorism, disappears.”
Great point Katherine!
Actually, the point was Jasser’s, not Katherine’s.
Replace “Muslims” and “Islamist” with “Christians” and “Christian,” and the sentiment is identical as far as I’m concerned.
Even these are all made in communist China these days. I guess slave labor is the way to go!
You clearly know little about modern China, d2.
I was there a couple of years ago. It was a fabulous trip that I enjoyed immensely; I’d love to return.
While it is true that Mao is still revered throughout the country, China has made important progress toward becoming a capitalist country. Yes, it has a long way to go, and human rights violations can still be found if you care to look for them. However, such atrocities are decreasing, and the Chinese people are becoming more and more prosperous as their nation becomes increasingly open and capitalistic. I believe that American support of change in China has been important to the progress it has made.
China faces immense challenges we here in America do not: a huge population (over one billion, even with the “one child only” policy), pollution of the environment, civil unrest with Tibetans and Uighurs, the possibility that climate change could make it difficult to feed the nation, the possible loss of rivers as Himalayan glaciers recede, etc. But the Chinese – at least the ones I observed – are ready to meet these challenges and thrive.
d2, we visited one of the world’s oldest mosques in China. It was beautiful, the landscape beautifully sculpted, and even though it was in the middle of a large city it was very peaceful and quiet. The monks who live there open all but their private living quarters to the world, asking only that women wear a head scarf (which is provided for them at the entry). The group with whom I traveled to China was mostly religious (Catholic). The Chinese knew this, and we were welcomed warmly everywhere we went.
Now, I certainly do have issues with American corporations offshoring American jobs to places like India and China. But after visiting China and seeing it for myself, the slave labor of which you speak – although not completely abolished – is becoming less and less a problem. The sweaters you saw were likely made by someone who was paid to sew them. The wage paid might seem very small to us, but a little goes a long way in China.
I treasure the experiences I have been privileged to have in my overseas trips. Through them I have learned a great deal about some of the world. Even Cuba wasn’t anything like what I expected it to be. It would be good to remember, d2, that not every place is the way you presume it to be. (I’ll concede North Korea to you; it’s probably worse than you imagine.)
“. (I’ll concede North Korea to you; it’s probably worse than you imagine.) ”
With his imagination it’s probably better than what he’d explain to us.
I do think D2 and the great leader have alot in common ..
Most people don’t buy that D.T.
That they’re supposed to pray five times a day or that they didn’t think about it?
Kersten once again puts on a wonderful show featuring the blog maggot racists, climate change parrots and the ever so benevolent gay lap dog. Had I a choice I would do battle with the exclusive club of hate America worship by downtown dan. Although I do agree for the most part with downtown dan, evil baby fauvel (sorry for the miss spelling earlier), and to a lesser extent, formewr carrier. I will not backdown on the truth that kersten runs a petri dish of viral garbage to which both contribute. Hate arabs, hate earth and hate anyone who has a thought of maybe this might work.
To your selfrelient comrades I want to tag this-
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Gobotomy-rabid idiot
Tluck-rabid idiot2
Stevek- blatent racist idiot
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I do hope that one day you, as individuals, shall find a mate that would satisfy you primal needs.
evil, as your comrade had warned, you put to much into your posts to satisfy your cohabitating with the kersten gut maggots.
“Dare2sayit – racist idiot
Greg63 – racist idiot candy
Gobotomy-rabid idiot
Tluck-rabid idiot2
Stevek- blatent racist idiot
Montty- want-a-be”
your’s truely
Hateful B:tch
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“Quinbus Flestrin = newbiz? ”
Nah ..
Olberman and Beck’s hemmoroids mated ..
making one very large hemmoroid ..
“Kersten once again puts on a wonderful show featuring the blog maggotZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ”
He/she/it is already a bore.
“Stevek- blatent racist idiot”
ahh at last some recognition for all my hard work. first, id like to thank my fellow bloggers, without them , my spewing hatred would be pointless,
id like to thank my family for all of their support, they have always stood by me as i toil at the keyboard
also, i cant forget bush, obama and the endless list of fodder for providing me such an immense pile of material for which to work with.
thank you ladies and gentlemen and you others, good night.
Danno,
I don’t think these imams were just innocently praying in a manner normal to traveling Muslims. I think they were deliberately acting goofy to draw a reaction from paranoid fellow passengers, flight crew etc. They got exactly what they were after. Everyone who responded to their behavior with alarm and suspicion should feel stupid because they got played.
Q, don’t be such a hater. Hate is bad for you. Like cancer.
“Q, don’t be such a hater. Hate is bad for you. Like cancer. ”
..and hemmoroids.
and super sized fries
I wouldn’t be surprised if people who spend a lot of time and energy hating other people actually do have a statistically higher chance of having inflamed hemmoroids. Hate makes for an unhappy gut. Unhappy gut makes for an unhappy butt.
Quinbus probably has to carry one of those inflatable donuts around to sit on.
Katherine, regarding these imams.
If you give them any attention, they’re winning. Don’t you get that?
I have a sneaking suspicion (note: suspicion) that the truth of the old saw, “the squeaky wheel gets the grease,” is being illustrated here.
I have a sneaking suspicion that everything went the way the Imams planned it to go.
It was their intention to get themselves thrown off the flight to draw attention to the what the see as mistreatment of their followers.
“14 Americans killed in 2 Afghan helicopter crashes”
How about we play some basketball?
*Not when they are wearing turbines
That’s another problem. Had the Imams been prop driven, with an old fashioned air cooled radial, people would have felt more comfortable.
“14 Americans killed in 2 Afghan helicopter crashes”
Have the families over for some beer and to shoot some Hoops.
“14 Americans killed in 2 Afghan helicopter crashes”
Yeah, tiny, whatever happened to “Mission Accomplished”?
Downtown Dem, when I was in Paris a few years ago, I tried not to advertise the fact that I was an American if possible
Trust me, it wasn’t possible.
The flannel shirt and the beer belly were a dead giveaway.
Have the families over for some beer and to shoot some Hoops.
Ahhh…no one’s ever done that before, have they Tiny?
I guess you’ve already decided that the Obama presidency is a failure, a whole 10 months into it, so you’re not paying attention anymore.
““14 Americans killed in 2 Afghan helicopter crashes””
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA (fingers in ears) i cant hear you
Sgt.Pendleton you are not very bright are you.
Those posts above are the post YOU SHOULD BE MAKING!!! I know if old John had won the election and was having beers and playing ball you’d be all bent out of shape.
I guess its the letter behind the name again for you. It buys you off. What a FRAUD
“Those posts above are the post YOU SHOULD BE MAKING!!!”
More tiny transference. After all, EVERYBODY THINKS LIKE HE DOES!!!!!
“More tiny transference.”
Well its pretty much on the mark. If a republican was president the left would be haveing a hissy fit about the war dead. Where is Obama’s Sheehan?
“Unhappy gut makes for an unhappy butt.”
Priceless DAR
“Where is Obama’s Sheehan?”
Right here. The name is….tiny.
But, again, this ain’t apples to apples. O inheirited, not started, two wars, only one of which was justifiable in the first place. And, not surprisingly, the justifiable one is the one tiny uses for his example of leftwing hypocracy.
“O inheirited, not started, two wars”
Oh inherited? Comon Mr. Python. This “inherited” crap has been played out. The Dems say it as if the bush presidency was an 8 year occupation of america. Now we are free. BS.
Ike inherited Korea or Nixon inherited Viet Nam. Not likly.
“I guess you’ve already decided that the Obama presidency is a failure, a whole 10 months into it, so you’re not paying attention anymore.”
So sarge, when does failure begin. after the honeymoon? After the 1st 100 days? After the 1st year? after the 1st term?
“as if the bush presidency was an 8 year occupation of america.”
To the partisans on the left, I’m sure it felt that way. Just like O is the cross that those on the right feel they have to bear.
“Ike inherited Korea or Nixon inherited Viet Nam. Not likly.”
I have yet to hear anyone on the left blame Nixon for starting the Viet Nam war. Or Johnson, for that matter, and he took plenty of flak for it too.
They did get lotsa negative press for how they handled it, however. If you don’t like how O is handling the wars he is now managing, fine, have at him. But please, spare us this “O = W” equation has far as the wars go. Different circumstances and situations.
OK, I’m gonna try this again. Maybe the Strib has a filter that screens out actual journalism.
Go to M!nnpost and read Eric Bl@ck’s piece on the Flying Imams. After reading that, while I might disagree with a few of the Judge’s rulings, on the whole her decision is pretty well reasoned.
But the larger issue is how the Strib lets KK get away with her nonsense. I like have a conservative voice on this site, but at least get someone with some honesty.
“I guess you’ve already decided that the Obama presidency is a failure, a whole 10 months into it, so you’re not paying attention anymore.”
Whats dumber? Deciding his presidency is a failure 10 months in? Or that it warrants a Nobel Peace Prize?
“Whats dumber? Deciding his presidency is a failure 10 months in? Or that it warrants a Nobel Peace Prize?”
Dumb and dumber.
Earsell,
Just read the Eric Black article.
It’s a nice counterpoint to Katherine’s shrieking. I for one am not prepared to suspend the 4th Amendment so that people like Katherine can feel safer.
Interesting to see which details a real reporter calls one’s attention to, that Katherine leaves out.
I also like the quote from Judge Montgomery’s opinion (which explained her reasoning for not summarily throwing out the imam’s lawsuit), at the end of his article:
“Finally, the MAC Defendants suggest that the attacks of September 11, 2001—perpetrated by men of Middle Eastern descent who espoused a radical version of Islam—justifies a massive curtailment of liberty whenever terrorism, and in this case, the suspicion of Islamic terrorism, is concerned.
“Unquestionably the events of 9/11 changed the calculus in the balance American society chooses to make, especially in airport settings, between liberty and security. Ultimately, the proper balance will be achieved, in large part, because we have the most capable and diligent law enforcement and intelligence communities in the world. But when a law enforcement officer exercises the power of the Sovereign over its citizens, she or he has a responsibility to operate within the bounds of the Constitution and cannot raise the specter of 9/11 as an absolute exception to that responsibility. On the record before the Court, no reasonable officer could have believed they could arrest Plaintiffs without probable cause. The right that was violated is clearly established, and, thus, the MAC Defendants are not entitled to qualified immunity. Accordingly, summary judgment is denied on the unreasonable seizure claim.”
I think it’s good that our legal system prevented the imams from making good on their threat to sue their fellow passengers for reporting suspicious behavior. I do hope though that whoever that nervous Nelly was who passed the note to the pilot and set the Keystone Cops in motion gets put on the No-fly list. As a frequent air traveler the last thing I need is some hyper-vigilant islamophobic busybody causing flight delays. Some people just shouldn’t try to get on airplanes. ever.
“I do hope though that whoever that nervous Nelly was who passed the note to the pilot and set the Keystone Cops in motion gets put on the No-fly list. ”
It was probably a frequent reader of:
I too just read the EB article. It certainly is a more thorough examination of the facts of the flying imams case than we got from KK, but does this really surprise anyone? EBs article spelled out the rationale behind Judge Annies crucial ruling-that the imams were arrested, not detained. I suppose better legal minds than mine could argue that JA got it wrong, but at least I get why she ruled the way she did now.
I know if old John had won the election and was having beers and playing ball you’d be all bent out of shape.
So that makes it okay for you to get all worked up about it? Either way it’s stupid to b1tch about that — and you’re b1tching.
“I do hope though that whoever that nervous Nelly was who passed the note to the pilot and set the Keystone Cops in motion gets put on the No-fly list. ”
And this is what nervous Nelly had to say about what his note caused:
“Mike McCombie, the California man whose note to a flight attendant led to the incident, said, “When they took them off the plane, I was kind of surprised. From what I saw, I don’t think that would warrant being taken off the plane. I wasn’t concerned in what I saw, in and of itself.”
McCombie, who was not a party to the suit, said, “I never had the impression that, ‘Oh, my gosh, there’s some sort of imminent threat here.’ ”
http://www.twincities.com/ci_13605229?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com
“I do hope though that whoever that nervous Nelly was who passed the note to the pilot and set the Keystone Cops in motion gets put on the No-fly list. ”
Read the comments of the EB piece. There’s a link in #6 to a PP article that quotes “nervous Nelly”. It’s priceless.
I’d link it here but KKs filter keeps eating it.
Whats dumber? Deciding his presidency is a failure 10 months in? Or that it warrants a Nobel Peace Prize?
So sarge, when does failure begin. after the honeymoon? After the 1st 100 days? After the 1st year? after the 1st term?
I don’t know when “failure” begins. When does success begin? Bush liked to point out that Truman was deeply unpopular when he left office and now he’s considered one of the great presidents.
One thing everyone seems to agree on is that Obama was handed a steaming plate of poop of historic and unprecedented proportions, which he’s had 10 months to fix. Given the fact that he didn’t screw up Iraq (which was getting better) and he’s at least considering a different strategy in Afghanistan, I give him a C+ so far - but I’ll wait until the aftermath of the 2010 elections to pass judgement.
Regardless, GO, I think you’d agree that labelling his presidency a “failure” at this point is absurd.
…Or that it warrants a Nobel Peace Prize?
Hey - not his fault what a bunch of crazy Norweigans decide. I posted in BQ that I thought that was absurd as well.
“Hey - not his fault what a bunch of crazy Norweigans decide.”
How’s it his fault that Tiny thinks hes a failure?
“How’s it his fault that Tiny thinks hes a failure?”
No, that’s tiny’s fault.
Faults. We all have ‘em….just ask QF.
“Faults. We all have ‘em….just ask QF.”
QF seems to harbor a lot of contempt for maggots. I find fault with that.
Wasn’t someone here writing about the “strategic” 9/11-style seating pattern? The PP article announcing the settlement said the passengers were seated “throughout” the cabin.
So I guess when I flew to my grandma’s funeral, my entire family flew the 9/11 “strategic pattern” since none of us were sitting together.
…it also said that they didn’t choose to sit that way — the airline had seated them.
Nice reporting KK!
“Whats dumber? Deciding his presidency is a failure 10 months in? Or that it warrants a Nobel Peace Prize?”
good one alabama…
predicting tricky barry’s admin would be a failure hardly took any prescience. with his almost utter lack of experience in government or business, and his surrounding himself with race baiters and terrorists success would be a miracle indeed.
with his almost utter lack of experience in government or business, and his surrounding himself with race baiters and terrorists
This is doubly funny coming from a Bush worshiper. Throw in a reference to being a C student and the total lack of awareness would be complete.
“This is doubly funny coming from a Bush worshiper. ”
stevek never worshipped W.
he does however worship b00bs though.
and a second rate football team too ..
I’m pretty sure.
“Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman John Kerry, D-Mass., today said the strategy submitted to the White House by the top American commander in Afghanistan “reaches too far, too fast” and called for a more narrow, modest mission that he says will eventually enable the U.S. to draw down its military presence there. ”
And we are suppose to listen to this guy. Don’t have to be partisan to admit he was wrong every single time on Iraq.
This is getting scary.
“ut, again, this ain’t apples to apples. O inheirited, not started, two wars,”
So basketball and golf and beers is okay than.
So basketball and golf and beers is okay than.
So what was your stance on W setting a record for days on vacation?
“and a second rate football team too .. ”
HEY !!!! now thats going too far !!!
but greg is right about the w thing, far from worshipping him, i dont think he was a good president. i think he was a lousy leader. the world isnt all in binary dan.
oh , and the b00bs too
“HEY !!!! now thats going too far !!! ”
Isn’t it like detroit or something?
“So what was your stance on W setting a record for days on vacation? ”
we were probably better off when he wasnt “touching” anything
“Isn’t it like detroit or something? ”
yikes !! im not that much of a masochist, but hi everyone, my name is stevek and im an eagles fan.
“Regardless, GO, I think you’d agree that labelling his presidency a “failure” at this point is absurd.”
I do agree.
I would give Obama a B- so far.
Staying on mark in Iraq.
Attacks against the taliban/alqiada in pakistan.
His afgahn policy is incomplete at this point but he gets points fot not making reactionary decisions.
His so called soci@list agenda hasn’t hurt wall street.
As far as healthcare, someone had to do something, sometime, sooner than later.
Points for keeping at it for 10 months.
So far he hasn’t pulled back out of anything he has started. Shows me he has focus.
“Don’t have to be partisan to admit he was wrong every single time on Iraq.”
And biden too. But ya know what, Chuck Hagle was wrong too. I would have voted for either one of these guys. Bush took in all sides and made the correct decision on Iraq. Correct, meaning it worked. Obama will need to do the same.
presidential vacations are an oxymoron. Like a trip to the beach with your laptop.
How should Obama be graded on his radical Czar choices which include an admitted communist and a NAMBLA supporter?
“presidential vacations are an oxymoron. Like a trip to the beach with your laptop.”
President Barack Obama has only been in office for just over nine months, but he’s already hit the links as much as President Bush did in over two years:
www.politico.com/click/stories/0910/obama_ties_bush_on_golf.html
“I would give Obama a B- so far. ”
We’re pretty close. I was thinking a B.
I think he’s actually admitted fault a couple of times ..
I like that.
This country would be a much better place if more politicians held the same views on illegal immigration as Michele Bachmann:
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Immigration:
The United States is a nation founded by immigrants and prides itself on the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Obtaining the “American Dream” is an inherent part of our nation’s spirit and we should encourage those who enter our country legally to achieve it. However, we are also a nation founded on the rule of law and we must ensure U.S. immigration laws are respected and enforced to preserve our national security; protect federal, state, and local budgets; and curb unfair strain on our country’s job markets.
The last time our immigration laws were overhauled was in 1986, when Congress granted amnesty to almost three million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and promised increased border security in the near future. Twenty years later, the number of illegal immigrants in our country has quadrupled, with no end in sight. Rather than repeating the mistakes of our past, I believe Congress must work to secure our nation’s borders and enforce the immigration laws already in place. Once this is achieved, improvements to the current system can be considered.
Those who approach our immigration system legally and work through the established process should be welcomed. However, any proposal for reform must not reward those who choose to break our laws by entering the country illegally.
“I was thinking a B.”
You were thinking A+ Liberal Greg, admit it!
“You were thinking A+ Liberal Greg, admit it! ”
No.
But I am thinking your hero MB is worthy of a D ..
and I’m being generous.
But Greg, Michele Bachmann is the best Representative Minnesota has in Washington.
Ever notice how conservative women are generally much more attractive than liberal women?
d2si - “But Greg, Michele Bachmann is the best Representative Minnesota has in Washington.”
And a true American patriot.
God bless you Michele!
A green company claims that “by applying a naturally occurring microbial phenomena, we convert the carbon in organic wastewater into polyhydroxylalkanoate (PHA), a family of high-performance, highly marketable biodegradable plastics.” I am not sure that the company is so green. That is what you get when you listen to the lib media. It sounds pretty brown to me. I can’t wait to see the marketing of the sandwich bags.
grade, hmm, i cant think of anything tricky barry has done besides cry about fox, cry about the chamber of commerce and whine about republicans … he hasnt even done anything for his base the illegals, drug addled and gays come to think of it…
10/26/2009 - 7:45EST - i do like what the fcc under barry has done to promote net neutrality. they are on the right track. also there is real hope that patents on software can be abolished or greatly reduuced by being directly tied to a macine instead of just mathematical abstractions.
ok so i give him a D
Obama has a a Presidential Approval Index rating of -12 according to Rasmussen. I can’t wait to see how the libs turn that into PHA.
“Ever notice how conservative women are generally much more attractive than liberal women? ”
No.
And she’s definately NOT a patriot and an embarrasment to our state.
Face it ..
she’s done absolutely nothing but make our state look like idiots.
B
Ever notice how conservative women are generally much more attractive than liberal women?
Ever notice how conservative men are generally much more attracted to politicians’ looks than their brains?
“she’s done absolutely nothing but make our state look like idiots.”
No, it’s liberals that do that. An example is when they voted radical Nation of Islam goon Keith Hakim Ellison (DFL) into the United States Congress.
I
for incomplete
and for his focus on himself.
Bachmann gets a passing grade by default because her peeps keep electing her.
But I recommend she get a hall pass to go talk to the counselor lady.
Gotta disagree stevek ..
I don’t like the whining business either however ..
seems he does have a point since the ‘fair and balanced’ is only laying out one side of the equation many times and in some instances not really telling the truth?
At the same time, he needs to put on his big boy pants and ignore it … people get it.. well, most do anyway.
GO made good points, in particular about being reactionary and doing ’something’ about healthcare.
cant think of anything tricky barry has done besides cry about fox, cry about the chamber of commerce and whine about republicans …
That will happen when Fox and World Net Daily are your only sources of “news.”
“ok so i give him a D”
I give cousous a “D”. My lady just bought 6 boxes of the stuff.
I said- “What? The 10 boxes in the pantry you bought 2 years ago isn’t clue enough?”
She said- “it was on sale. Besides its “toasted Pine Nut” Couscous”.
Toasted pine nut? Have you ever heard of such a thing.
I’ll have couscous coming out of my ying yang for years.
“Ever notice how conservative men are generally much more attracted to politicians’ looks than their brains? ”
be honest dan, drop the word conservative and admit its all men.
“barry has done besides cry about fox”
Thats a case of bad advice from the inner circle.
“My lady just bought 6 boxes of the stuff.”
Sounds like my wife. She’s really into coupon clipping and buys crap we don’t need just because it’s a good deal. We’re just about ready to open our own General Store.
“Ever notice how conservative men are generally much more attracted to politicians’ looks than their brains?”
If brains were cleavage and camel toes……………….
So D2 ..
Who’s been on the comedy channel more?
Ellison or Mad Michele?
She’s great for the comedians ..
A decent person does not need to wait long to see the degenrate side of this blog. Everything boils down to demeaning women. The loser games have begun.
“That will happen when Fox and World Net Daily are your only sources of “news.” ”
nah mostly just kk’s articles and slashdot
D2, No doubt. I swear if we didn’t have dogs she would still by dog food if it was on sale.
Hateful B:tch alert
Hateful B:tch alert
This Greg is the opposite of Liberal Greg and makes complete sense:
“be honest dan, drop the word conservative and admit its all men. ”
I’d agree ..
in fact ..
here’s the next congress:
Sickos every one of you. How do you live with yourselves? Your wives must be real winners to climb into bed with such dregs!
“So D2 ..
Who’s been on the comedy channel more?
Ellison or Mad Michele?
She’s great for the comedians ..”
Liberal Greg, Hollywierd won’t pick on radical black men (not politically correct), but they think it’s a hoot to pick on conservative honky women, especially if they are Christian.
“seems he does have a point since the ‘fair and balanced’ is only laying out one side of the equation many times and in some instances not really telling the truth?”
i cant say i notice alot of fair and balanced with tingly legged, hard on chris matthews, doberman or that beastly maddows thing,
hey Qbert , what is that you have going there ?? some kind of tourrettes of the fingers ??
Hey Queenbutt Fartring, would you please change out that plug. its really stinking up the place.
“Wearing the burqa — the traditional female covering for Muslim women — is “contrary” to French values, Immigration Minister Eric Besson said in an interview Sunday.”
imagine that, the french grew some b@llz
i cant say i notice alot of fair and balanced with tingly legged, hard on chris matthews, doberman or that beastly maddows thing,
You mean Matthews, who spent six years with a man-crush on Bush? Maddow regularly complains that she can’t get conservative media whores to appear to debate her. And I do believe their channel has three hours of Republican Scarbourough every morning, not to mention ex-Nixonite Pat Buchannan must have a cot in the green room he’s on so often. And I don’t believe MSNBC is owned by a hard-core activist Republican, nor is it run by its equivalency to Roger Ailes, Nixon’s old media director.
There’s no shame in admitting Fox is a top to bottom partisan operation. Owned by partisans, run by partisans, staffed by partisans, for the enjoyment of partisans. But the mere presence of partisan commentators on other networks doesn’t make them equal to what Fox is doing, and it wasn’t a big deal that Obama admitted what everyone else already knows.
time to go and see if the eagles can beat the putrid redskins …..
“Sickos every one of you. How do you live with yourselves? Your wives must be real winners to climb into bed with such dregs! ”
My wife would kick your a$$ and laugh ..
then she’d say ..
“if you can’t appreciate the boyish charm stick with pu$$y .. b!atch!!!”
and then you’d look for your thesauras to try and find some multi-syllabilic words to promote yourself as a an intellectual although we’d all know ..
you’re a fake.
“imagine that, the french grew some b@llz”
How can you identify a French soldier? Sunburned armpits.
Even these guys have more balls than Obama though.
D2 ..
it’s a yes or no question.
“Even these guys have more balls than Obama though. ”
Which would leave you with none .. or negative?
D2, are you one of those people born without balls?
Hemaphro something or other?
“D2 ..
it’s a yes or no question.”
OK then, No.
“And I don’t believe MSNBC is owned by anything close to Fox’s hard-core activist Republican owner Murdoch.”
More clear.
“D2, are you one of those people born without balls?”
Hey, just because your not attracted to that type, don’t take it out on me Greg!
Nutcase Bachman:
www.comedycentral.com/search/gsa/?searchterm=michele+bachman
Ellison:
nada
So D2, you’ve lied again.
D.T., it’s interseting how the Fair and Balanced Fox News is blowing away all of the liberal news channels like PMSNBC, CNN, and others COMBINED! People don’t want to hear the Dan Rather type leftist lies.
EAGLES 7 native americans 0
Greg,
Michele Bachmann should be honored that the liberal Comedy Central is poking fun at her. It just proves that she’s doing a great job.
“Hey, just because your not attracted to that type, don’t take it out on me Greg! ”
You’re right .. I’m not attracted to dudes without balls ..
and I’m not attracted to dudes with balls.
I am however, a lesbian trapped in a dudes body and very proud of it.
“D.T., it’s interseting how the Fair and Balanced Fox News is blowing away all of the liberal news channels like PMSNBC, CNN, and others COMBINED! People don’t want to hear the Dan Rather type leftist lies. ”
Or ..
they just want more comedy.
“I am however, a lesbian trapped in a dudes body”
That explains the extreme liberalism. Thanks for sharing Greg!
“Michele Bachmann should be honored that the liberal Comedy Central is poking fun at her. It just proves that she’s doing a great job. ”
In reality it means ..
she does stupid stuff.
“That explains the extreme liberalism. Thanks for sharing Greg! ”
Why does that make me an extreme liberal D2?
And we are suppose to listen to this guy. Don’t have to be partisan to admit he was wrong every single time on Iraq.
Somehow, I don’t think he’s talking to you, Tiny. Just a guess.
And by the way: it’s SUPPOSED not SUPPOSE. I’ll also add a pre-emptive “kiss my ass” in response to your inevitable remark about me being the grammar police. This ain’t grammar.
I’ll have couscous coming out of my ying yang for years.
GO, toss in some olive oil, grilled chicken, fresh mozzerella and some calamata olives — that’s the only way I can eat that stuff.
forces of good 14 minions of evil 0
“Your wives must be real winners to climb into bed with such dregs!”
None of your beeswax.
Please call us maggots again.
That kinda turns me on.
Kidding.
I’d link it here but KKs filter keeps eating it.
Monty, the trick on KK’s blog is to lose the H-ttp//.
Here’s the link you were trying to post.
www.twincities.com/ci_13605229?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com
“Your wives must be real winners to climb into bed with such dregs!”
My wife thinks I’m a dreg.
Until she sees my dirty “4×4 quad cab”
QF,
I bet you didn’t know there are 3 kinds of orgasms.
1. The positive orgasm; Oh yes, OH YES!!!
2. The religious orgasm; Oh God, OH GOD!!!
3. The fake orgasm; oh D2, oh… d2.
“Why does that make me an extreme liberal D2?”
Greg, you’re one of the most liberal people on this blog, almost as liberal as Sgt.Liberalton.
“That explains the extreme liberalism. Thanks for sharing Greg! ”
i admire your fortitude d2, but dont start dogging g63’s and my movemenet. we belong to LIWMP. Lesbians Inside With Manly Privates. its an international movement, that cant be stopped.
I thought it was BLIWMP ..
Butch Lesbians Inside With Manly Privates
Speaking of Bachmann, add George Will to the list of conservatives with a crush on her:
Hey, it worked. Thanx tluck!
Heh,
I quoted a line from Will’s column (the one about Bachmann being a pistol that sometimes goes off half-c0cked) and the spam filter stopped it.
I think if Will really paid attention to the sort of loopy stuff Bachmann espouses, he might think twice about praising her name under the well-branded banner of his syndicated column.
Just like if I were Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, I don’t think I’d want to be quoted as the moderate Muslim in a Katherine Kersten article.
Not sure I’d want that association to be made public.
Just like if I were Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, I don’t think I’d want to be quoted as the moderate Muslim in a Katherine Kersten article.
Not sure I’d want that association to be made public.
tluck, you forgot #4.
4. Gee Quinbus Flestrin, I like you, but just as a friend.
“I thought it was BLIWMP ..
Butch Lesbians Inside With Manly Privates ”
we’re flexible.
So D2, what is your position on Muslims publicly praying at the airport?
“she’s done absolutely nothing but make our state look like idiots.”
No, it’s liberals that do that. An example is when they voted radical Nation of Islam goon Keith Hakim Ellison (DFL) into the United States Congress.
Actually, it’s the accent.
No reasonably competent officer,” she wrote, could have believed he was acting legally by detaining and questioning the imams in a way that, in her view, amounted to an “arrest.”
If you were pulled off a plane right before takeoff and held for 4-5 hours, handcuffed for some of it, and told you were not free to excuse yourself from the situation, wouldn’t you say you’d been arrested?
Isn’t there a 4th Amendment to the Constitution and a wealth of precedent in previous Court decisions that establish a requirement for cops to have probable cause to make an arrest?
Some nosy @sshole passing a note that there were Arabs saying Allah Ackbar on the plane is not probable cause, sorry.
If Judge Montgomery had summarily thrown out the lawsuit, could that not be construed as a Judge deciding that the Constitution didn’t apply in certain circusmstances, that are like, relly scary (to xenophobes, anyway)because of 911?
Wouldn’t that be Jusicial Activism?
I thought judicial activism was supposed to be bad.
I’m all confused now, Katherine. help.
A decent person does not need to wait long to see the degenrate side of this blog. Everything boils down to demeaning women.
It may seem that way to you, but I always, always ask before I come in a woman’s face.
Okay, sometimes she says no and I do it anyway, but the point is, I always ask first.
“Okay, sometimes she says no and I do it anyway, but the point is, I always ask first. ”
See .. you should get extra points for that.
“So D2, what is your position on Muslims publicly praying at the airport? ”
i cant speak for d2, but i think its ok… as long as they are in cuffs.
I think we might need to bake a funeral hotdish for mthalo after that 10:14 post.
I think that remark might get Quinbus flustered.
The fact that it’s still up at 10:56 suggests Katherine ain’t policing this thing like she used to. Paycuts will do that to ambition and diligence.
Still I sense that at some point it will be noticed and mt will need a new handle.
Bean and Rice Funeral Casserole
1 cup brown rice
1 cup water
1 cup cottage cheese
2 Tbsp. ketchup
1 can black beans
1 green pepper, chopped
1 tsp. Cumin
1 tsp. chili powder
mix ingredients in a pyrex casserole dish. Top with grated cheddar and mozzerella cheese.
Bake at 350 degrees F until cheese on top is golden brown.
It’s better the next day as leftovers.
“i cant speak for d2, but i think its ok… as long as they are in cuffs. ”
He’s not talking about women ..
“1 tsp. Cumin”
So how is that gonna be supplied.
I think we might need to bake a funeral hotdish for mthalo after that 10:14 post
I did consider that, but I have said worse things and survived.
I think that remark might get Quinbus flustered.
She asked, and I obliged.
“So D2, what is your position on Muslims publicly praying at the airport?”
I would bet D2’s favorite position on muslims is doggie style. Preferrrrrbly full on an@l. To the hilt!!
Thanks SteveK, I’m glad your attitudes aren’t limited by politics.
Bloomington imam Ikram-Ul-Huq took his out-of-town colleagues to the airport and prayed with them for 45 minutes before the fateful flight.
Just another America-hating terrorist? According to the story, “Ikram … is also vice chair of his District 37A Republican Party Board, and chairman of his local precinct.”
“1 tsp. Cumin”
“So how is that gonna be supplied. ”
Huh?
They sell it at the grocery store.
Now if you wanted to add an illicit herb for seasoning and to fuel a proper wake for our buddy MT, I recommend sauteing about a quarter ounce of it in olive oil to release its magic into a digestable medium before stirring it into the hotdish mixture.
“I would bet D2’s favorite position on muslims is doggie style. Preferrrrrbly full on an@l. To the hilt!! ”
So you’re saying D2 likes to pretend he’s Ned Beatty?
“I bet you didn’t know there are 3 kinds of orgasms.”
#5 -the bucket brigade. In my hairy face and all over the place. with a slap on the back of my cottage cheese thighs to set it all in motion.
yours truly
Hatefull B:tch
“Huh?
They sell it at the grocery store.”
Since when? I thought you got it at that special bank where you leave a deposit and you get money for it?
Someone got his vicodin refilled.
Hey Quinbus Flestrin can I smell your pussy?
What? No I can’t?
You mean thats your breath I smell?
chum bait, chum bait, chum bait.
(to the tune of “jaws”)
“Just another America-hating terrorist? According to the story, “Ikram … is also vice chair of his District 37A Republican Party Board, and chairman of his local precinct.” ”
I’m guessing you won’t find that on D2’s website.
a freind told me
take a vicodan with a cup of coffee. Instant gradification dudes. Poor man high balling (or what ever that was that killed john belushie)
That’s bad ..
“Thanks SteveK, I’m glad your attitudes aren’t limited by politics.”
thank you em, i try to be consistent .. unless i decide to not be.
“ust another America-hating terrorist? According to the story, “Ikram … is also vice chair of his District 37A Republican Party Board, and chairman of his local precinct.” ”
guess the elephants have to be on the look out for cair plants now..
take a vicodan with a cup of coffee. Instant gradification dudes. Poor man high balling (or what ever that was that killed john belushie)
That’s a speedball, and no, coffee and vicodin do not compare.
of course g, we exist across all walks of life,
oh you mean female lesbians, mmmmmmmmmm, yesssssss, “ill play a prerecorded rush show for you 2, in the background, if i can watch…..”
“Since when? I thought you got it at that special bank where you leave a deposit and you get money for it? ”
Dude.
I think you’re confused on purpose about what cumin is.
But I think I get it.
Nasty.
You have to forgive me for being a little slow on the uptake.
It was years before I realized what the band name “Pearl Jam” referred to.
“But I think I get it.
Nasty. ”
Yes ..
it is.
Don’t eat the hotdish Liberal Greg brings to the wake.
“Don’t eat the hotdish Liberal Greg brings to the wake. ”
..or anything GO brings…
especially the bismarcs ..
The mayo at Subway is highly suspect too.
“The mayo at Subway is highly suspect too. ”
Maybe the wake should be catered?
Wow, this thread has gone to “Perv Heaven”. I kinda like it. Yes I do.
“So D2, what is your position on Muslims publicly praying at the airport?”
If that was all the Flying Imam’s did there wouldn’t have been an issue, but they intentionally tried to create a situation and got the result they prayed for.
Ms Katherine, I am so joyful to see a new entry in your blog again.
Mr dare2 had speculated that you had been canned. I speculated that you may have departed from this vale of tears and had gone to heaven. I am so happy you are still with us in this vale of tears.
I am also pleased that you have kept the reason for your disappearance a secret. Secrecy provides us a wonderful mystery, and mystery, at the very least, always protects us from enlightenment.
Speaking of a lack of enlightenment, I would like to address some of your latest offerings.
“U.S. District Judge Ann Montgomery pinned the law-enforcement officials involved to the wall — one from the FBI and six from MAC — second-guessing their conduct with the luxury of a Monday-morning quarterback.”
Ms Katherine, Perhaps you are not aware that most of the time, both judge and jury are not at the scene of the incident when it takes place. I would guess that in close to 100% off all cases, both judge and jury play the role of “Monday-morning quarterback”.
“The fact that at least 15 officers involved in the incident — from the MAC, the Federal Air Marshal Service, the FBI and the Secret Service — had all apparently believed they were acting appropriately and responsibly did not appear to give her pause.”
So what? Perhaps they need to study up on the constitution. Just because they are in law enforcement does not put them above the law.
“This obsession with victimization leads CAIR and the imams to ignore Muslims’ real interests.”
Uh-huh. What is in their interest I am sure is to be happy with illegal arrests and detainment, indefinite imprisonment, torture, and no right to an attorney, or due process under the law. This is the policy advanced by the likes of Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and Ashcroft. These are the real criminals.
The Imans broke no law. Perhaps it’s time for law enforcement to go after the REAL outlaws.
I am sorry to be so snotty, Ms Katherine, but I am tired of you attacking Islam and picking on Muslim people.
Islam is here to stay. It is the fastest growing religion. Along with Christianity and Judaism, it is one of the 3 great monotheistic religions. “Radical Islam” is also here to stay, along with radical Judaism and radical Christianity.
Hmmm…Leland…the Muslims on the plane deliberately acted as if to cause problems and they won. That set a president on future actions. Sad.
Ms AW, How refreshing to have a real woman instead of a fake one like what’s his name.
I love you, Ms American Woman.
Last time I checked it was all real. Thanks for noticing!
Ms AW, I no longer care about silly Muslims, all I care about is YOU. You lovely, delicious, morsel of pure delight.
My fascist friend, Mr stevek would say another of my personalities have emerged, but I tell you, beneath the calm veneer on the surface, lies a frothing, ravenous wolf, always in search of Little Red Riding Hood.
Wow, this thread has gone to “Perv Heaven”. I kinda like it. Yes I do.
It seemed to have the same effect on you that a few drops of blood in the water has on sharks.
“It seemed to have the same effect on you that a few drops of blood in the water has on sharks.”
Mthalo, why yes it does!
Have you guys scared all the females away from this blog?
What the heck.
I don’t see or smell any estrogen.
Quinbus Flestrin has accused men here of driving large 4X4 trucks in order to compensate for their small manhood.
I would like to say that like Mr mthalo and Mr dubble_a_ron, I drive a 4 cylinder Japanese car. Also, like the aforementioned, my appendage could be considered enormous. Especially if one compares it to the appendage of Mus musculus.
For the last two days, AW, there has been this peculiar “Quinbus Flestrin” character who shows up and calls us all maggots and so forth for saying crude things about women.
QF will no doubt accuse you of somehow betraying your gender if she/he/it catches you here.
Ms AW, Yes, it is quite unfortunate. All of the women have left. We don’t know why. I don’t know if we have scared them, or if it is some other reason.
“I would like to say that like Mr mthalo and Mr dubble_a_ron, I drive a 4 cylinder Japanese car.”
And I drive a 4 cyclinder Chevy pickup (when my Hummer is in the shop).
I would like to say that like Mr mthalo and Mr dubble_a_ron, I drive a 4 cylinder
There once was a man from Boston,
who drove around in an Austin.
He had room for his ass
and a gallon of gas,
but his balls hung out
so he lost ‘em!
D2 you’re a hummer? My, my, my….
“Ms AW, Yes, it is quite unfortunate. All of the women have left. We don’t know why. I don’t know if we have scared them, or if it is some other reason. ”
maybe its like how gimli explains it. its not that there are not any women , they just look and act so much like the men, noone can tell the difference.
“D2 you’re a hummer? My, my, my….”
Anything to impress you American Woman!
Just kidding about the Hummer. I’d like a bigger pickup truck but I drive too far to work everyday.
“Hmmm…Leland…the Muslims on the plane deliberately acted as if to cause problems and they won. That set a president on future actions. Sad.”
Being a conservative woman AmericanWoman, I’ll bet you’re very attractive like Michele Bachmann.
I DO NOT discuss MB whatsoever, the liar.
I like the limerick, mr mthalo.
Excuse me boys but QF is a male. Definitely male.
There has been some speculation that Quinbus is Parthian from the BQ. The hate levels are similar, but I don’t think Parthian could stay in the character for 6 or 7 posts without reverting to his habit of inveighing against the Right Wing Noise Machine.
Tiny?
No question about it, AW. That is what I said in my first post about QF. Thanks.
“And I drive a 4 cyclinder Chevy pickup (when my Hummer is in the shop).”
You mean your boyfriend?
I DO NOT discuss MB whatsoever, the liar.
I guess AW is now a liberal now in
D2s eyes.
No! Not tiny litess. Definitely not.
It’s not Tiny ..
I think it’s one of GO’s ex’s.
I thought QF might be JonR. Maybe not. I think JonR might be content prowling the Japanese blogs.
Anything to impress you American Woman!
Something tells me that D2 misunderstood….
“I guess AW is now a liberal now in
D2s eyes. ”
But she is not alone. I think that 99.972% of the population is liberal according to D2.
After doing a bit of reading on QF, I think it’s GO. That’s my vote.
I think QF is also gay, but not comfortable with himself. Not like Evil. I think there is a dark side to the guy. Maybe into boys.
He shames the men here for liking women. He’s a real squirrel.
Entered my mind that QF could be that Michael Blaine guy too. His last words on this blog as I recall was that he hated us.
But I think maybe QF is a brand new malcontent. With issues.
Definitely NOT GO. Mr G. steals the name (sort of) but he isn’t the original.
“After doing a bit of reading on QF, I think it’s GO. That’s my vote. ”
Mind the spelling on the poster’s name. “Quinpuss Festerin” is GO’s reaction to Quinbus Flestrin. Two very different individuals I’d say.
“I think QF is also gay, but not comfortable with himself. Not like Evil. I think there is a dark side to the guy. Maybe into boys.”
Um ..
D2?
“Michael Blaine”
Could be, Mr dubble underscore, you sleuth. There are some real similarities.
I always liked Michael, but he really came unglued before he left. I wonder if anyone can find those last entries when he kept leaving. Remember that? Are there archives?
“Definitely NOT GO. Mr G. steals the name (sort of) but he isn’t the original. ”
Agreed. He’d tell me ..
and then call me a name.
I have no idea who Michael Blaine is or JonR…
Would anyone mind reminding me?
It’s GO. My final answer.
“Would anyone mind reminding me?”
JonR was the homosexual quarter panel welder from the Ford Plant in StP who hated Japanese people.
MB, was that guy who was trying to get his own blog started and 86ed all of us from it when we started crashing it.
Thanks Mark . .
Being a conservative woman AmericanWoman, I’ll bet you’re very attractive, not at all like Rosie O’Donnel.
“Would anyone mind reminding me?”
Deac, you should have reminded Greg that Michael Blain and JonR are also extreme liberals.
“It’s GO. My final answer”
Are you sure? Your final answer?
Ohhhh sorry. That’s not the correct answer, but we thank you playing the game. You were a great contestant.
“”I think there is a dark side to the guy. Maybe into boys.”
Um ..
D2?”
Greg,l I’ve been saying all along that homosexuals should not be Boy Scout leaders in charge of taking boys on camping trips, the same way hetrosexual men should not take groups of girls camping. This is just common sense which most people agree with, but liberals like you attack me for saying it.
“I blame the teachers, and I blame the politicians
for picking the teachers, and I blame the parents
for voting them in, and top of the list I put the
b@stard who invented the caps-lock key.”
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That Any Key bothers me as well. I can never find it.
There are too few women here. That’s a valid point. One I really miss is citizen jane. I loved to read what she had to say. She was funny, off the wall and very smart.
stevek, mein fuhrer, how are you?
I see you blitzkrieged the Muslims a little. That’s my favorite fascist!
Always great to read what you have to say.
Greg,l I’ve been saying all along that homosexuals should not be Boy Scout leaders in charge of taking boys on camping trips, the same way hetrosexual men should not take groups of girls camping. This is just common sense which most people agree with, but liberals like you attack me for saying it.
Yeah, but what you say means nothing.
Consider all the closeted homosexuals in the Republican party, that continually vote against GLBT issues.
“Greg,l I’ve been saying all along that homosexuals should not be Boy Scout leaders in charge of taking boys on camping trips, the same way hetrosexual men should not take groups of girls camping. This is just common sense which most people agree with, but liberals like you attack me for saying it. ”
No, common sense people understand that the majority of people can control their sexual behavior ..
unlike you who believes that people cannot do that ..
I wonder why?
I’ve known and know several homosexual men who I’d trust with children far more than with you D2.
I don’t know EBF personally, but he presents himself as a far more responsible person than you on this blog…
and most likely in real life as well.
Log Cabin Republicans are out of the closet.
Is “log cabin” a slang term for rectum? Just wondering.
And D2 ..
Should Liz Cheney be a girl scout leader?
Would you trust her with your daughter?
“Yeah, but what you say means nothing.”
Ha!
And D2 ..
that little gig about conservative women being hot ..
First, I’m pretty darn confident my wife is far more hotter than any of them and most definately beats them in the common sense factor.
Extremism makes everything ugly ..
including the person spewing the crap.
““Yeah, but what you say means nothing.”
Ha! ”
Agreed … HA! x Infinity.
“including the person spewing the crap.”
We have come full circle. We are back to GO.
“Yeah, but what you say means nothing.”
I don’t agree with that response, but I thought it was funny.
“We have come full circle. We are back to GO. ”
HAAA!!!!
All begins and ends with p00p!
Loved the humor from 1:34 pm today onward.
Hi AW and leland8.
Gotta run, just got off work.
Used my last break to read “the latest, not the greatest, but the latest”. (my personal quote, cannot be used without my permission)
““the latest, not the greatest, but the latest”.”
Have your lawyer call my lawyer ..
Maybe I do know why women don’t post here anymore.
“MB, was that guy who was trying to get his own blog started and 86ed all of us from it when we started crashing it. ”
That’s funny that you crashed it. I was never in on that. I just wasn’t really interested in following his link.
But your post brings up an important question that’s been bugging me for a while.
I know being 86′d means being thrown out of a bar. It’s never happened to me but I’ve seen it happen several times.
Anyone know what the etymology of the term is? Why is the number 86 connected to being thrown out of a bar?
“Should Liz Cheney be a girl scout leader?
Would you trust her with your daughter?”
We should NOT have Scout leaders taking seventeen year olds on camping trips if he or she is sexually attracted to their gender, period. That’s the way it’s always been Greg, and there’s nothing radical about that concept.
Hi Ms iamme.
“We should NOT have Scout leaders taking seventeen year olds on camping trips if he or she is sexually attracted to their gender, period. That’s the way it’s always been Greg, and there’s nothing radical about that concept. ”
Maybe those ‘leaders’ need to be well-adjusted people.
You have a tendecy to label folks quite narrowly ..
that’s to your disadvantage and/or some deep seeded feelings you’re trying to keep locked up.
Why is the number 86 connected to being thrown out of a bar?
I’m not sure of the origin, but the last time I was 86ed, the bouncer was at least that tall in inches.
I went peacefully.
So I’m at the doctor today and he says no H1N1 for the kids in Wright County then I hear the Obama kids got theirs.
Man, I use to be a Communist and if I still was I’d be plenty upset.
And who’s at fault. George Bush…no wait he would have been if he was still president. I guess its nobodys fault now.
What a bunch of BS
leland86′d.
Okay, that is my comeback name if Ms Katherine ever does the blog murder to me.
“that little gig about conservative women being hot ..”
Not all of them, but in general conservative women are much more attractive than liberal women (and more intelligent). Janet Reno, Whoopi Goldberg, Rosie O’Donnel, Andrea Dworkin, Margaret Anderson Kelliher, Phyllis Khan, and many, many others come to mind.
I forgot to mention Janet Napolitano in my list of liberal beauties, you know, the one who his blocking enforcement of our immigration laws and thinks that conservatives are the real terrorists. What a lunatic!
“Janet Reno, Whoopi Goldberg, Rosie O’Donnel, Andrea Dworkin, Margaret Anderson Kelliher, Phyllis Khan”
Huh. I was sure those were men.
“Huh. I was sure those were men.”
It’s true, they are female, and they are probably available Leland! I even heard Rosie just went through a divorce with her gal pal.
hello le8, my mildy seditious friend,good to read you again.
“First, I’m pretty darn confident my wife is far more hotter than any of them and most definately beats them in the common sense factor.”
im asking for no particular reason g, didnt you mention that due to your recent physical challenges , sometimes your wife helps out at the keyboard ??? just sayin, no particular reasom im asking or anything …
“Man, I use to be a Communist and if I still was I’d be plenty upset.
And who’s at fault”
Tiny, you still ARE a communist. You always want to blame someone(usually a democrat) for something. That’s supposedly a liberal trait-playing the blame game. No wonder you’re so angry all the time, all that cognative dissonance going on. Just re-embrace your liberal self, comrade. You’ll feel better.
QF is definitely Eric Black.
Or maybe a cath lab nurse who doesn’t know enough about her job to understand how atherosclerosis begins.
“QF is definitely Eric Black.”
Or Comrade Nick Coleman who used to use the name Roving Reporter.
“A society that is not decent to women is not a decent society, and an indecent society is a dangerous one. Men who tyrannize women are prone, in time, to extend their despotism to social and political rivals of every description. ”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28738.html
Now we can understand why the libs hate strong conservative women so much. Maybe QF is right about you maggots.
Thanks Greg.
“im asking for no particular reason g, didnt you mention that due to your recent physical challenges , sometimes your wife helps out at the keyboard ??? just sayin, no particular reasom im asking or anything … ”
That was me stevek .. all me ..
she’s also very humble.
“Not all of them, but in general conservative women are much more attractive than liberal women (and more intelligent). Janet Reno, Whoopi Goldberg, Rosie O’Donnel, Andrea Dworkin, Margaret Anderson Kelliher, Phyllis Khan, and many, many others come to mind. ”
No.
See, what you fail to realize is that common sense and moderation are what makes a woman attractive … as well as strength.
The ‘women’ you constantly refer to are not strong .. they just try to make themselves seem that way and they definately aren’t moderate ..
extremism is ugly D2 ..
“Not all of them, but in general conservative women are much more attractive than liberal women
So are prostitutes.
“That was me stevek .. all me ..
she’s also very humble. ”
but of course, who would implied otherwise ???
This is a good idea
www.amazon.com/Hot-Dish-Heaven-Casseroles-Kitchens/dp/0873515684
“QF is definitely Eric Black.
Or maybe a cath lab nurse who doesn’t know enough about her job to understand how atherosclerosis begins”
My bet is on a guy/girl/whatever who can’t properly calibrate quotation marks.
Greg,
Check this out.
LONDON (Reuters) – A molecule found in a curry ingredient can kill esophageal cancer cells in the laboratory, suggesting it might be developed as an anti-cancer treatment, scientists said on Wednesday.
Researchers at the Cork Cancer Research Center in Ireland treated esophageal cancer cells with curcumin — a chemical found in the spice turmeric, which gives curries a distinctive yellow color — and found it started to kill cancer cells within 24 hours.
The cells also began to digest themselves, they said in a study published in the British Journal of Cancer.
Worker: I was fired for wearing ‘God’ button
A former cashier for The Home Depot who has been wearing a “One nation under God” button on his work apron for more than a year has been fired, he says because of the religious reference.
See, this guy thinks we’re all gonna be outraged at Home Depot. My response is “I’m glad, why did they wait a year?” Why do people think they have a right to express their own personal beliefs anywhere they want? If I want a religious indoctrination (Christian, Muslim, whatever), I’ll go to church or mosque. I’m not looking for salvation in Aisle 3, just a rubber gasket to stop the faucet from dripping.
“Just re-embrace your liberal self, comrade. You’ll feel better.”
Lets start with that 7,000$ swing set them damn kids got. How about a old tire and rope.I’ve looked around and not one damn comrade seems to be upset about that.
Thats why my friend you people aren’t Liberals your FRAUDS.
And look at Jimmy, God bless him , you never saw Old Rosalynn with a 10,000$ purse.
If you express these liberal views than at least try to live your life like you believe them.
Christ Fat Boy should be wearing a Ghandi outfit and living in a grass hut somewhere. Instead we found out he’s not worried about where his next meal is coming from.
Take “The Hair/Not my baby guy”. Mr Two Americas. Christ build a nice house but my god, kids don’t have shoes in this country.
So I’m at the doctor today and he says no H1N1 for the kids in Wright County then I hear the Obama kids got theirs.
Excuse while I try to stop laughing. Just two weeks ago, conservative lackeys like you Tiny were criticizing the first lady for NOT having had the children vaccinated yet.
You’re the biggest fraud here.
“Lets start with that 7,000$ swing set them damn kids got”
Yes, let’s. You think they’re the only damn kids in America that got a $7K swing set, tiny? Or does it bother you because the damn kids damn dad is President, and he has a “D” behind his name?
You really are a closet liberal, comrade. You’re always comparing privileges of one class against another and raging about the unfairness of it all. The press treats O differently than it did W! The Obama kids got the H1N1 vaccine and many other kids in America havn’t!(although my wife and my grandson have-but never mind them, they don’t count, right, tiny?) It’s all about class and fairness with you.
Just admit it, tiny. You’re still a communist.
And until you come clean, you’re a FRAUD.
Really, tiny,
Sasha and Malia don’t own that swingset. They can’t take it home with them in 2013 or 2017, whenever they leave. Lots of other kids will use that swing set.
We the people own it collectively.
I think you and Roosevelt the pug should take a trip to Washington DC.
sneak onto the Whitehouse lawn, sh!t Rooselvelt on it and then swing on the swingset. When Secret Service tackles you, say, “What? this swingset is mine too.”
That would be funny.
“And look at Jimmy, God bless him”
yes indeed, and except for the whole class priviledge thing, things are shaping up to be a 2nd carter administration for comrade barry.
“See, this guy thinks we’re all gonna be outraged at Home Depot.”
I am. The Home Depot in Rogers caters to illegal aliens and has ALL of it’s signs in the store printed in English AND Spanish.
People should be outraged!
Kersten your sicko minions are baffled someone would comment negatively towards their degenerate comments. They attribute me to be one of their own masquerading. What loathsome characters they are. May I suggest a good flush to cleanse this poor excuse for a blog of their vile presence. The use of the Internet by children must be monitored because of sites like yours, Kersten.
People should be outraged a racist is given a public forum to regurgetate hate. People should be outraged you bottom feeders are allowed to carry on with your perverse sexual references.
Its your basic liberal Baby Boomer Frauds
“Don’t trust anyone over 30″
Then they all turned 30. Then its okay.
“Yes, let’s. You think they’re the only damn kids in America that got a $7K swing set, tiny? Or does it bother you because the damn kids damn dad is President, and he has a “D” behind his name?”
Any President but especially one who claims to represent the little people. Little people DO NOT have 7,000$ swing sets.
“Excuse while I try to stop laughing. Just two weeks ago, conservative lackeys like you Tiny were criticizing the first lady for NOT having had the children vaccinated yet.”
Please find my post concerning this. I don’t recall saying anything about that. Come to think of it nor did I hear any such thing anywhere.
However I did see the Dr. Chick on MSNBC Scolding people who are against getting the vaccine. Last time I checked MSNBC was a pretty liberal station.
You better back check your “news sites” The Huffington Post and MOVEON and recheck those facts.
“May I suggest a good flush to cleanse this poor excuse for a blog of their vile presence”
It used to happen all the time. Posts used to disappear too. Of course the offending poster usually just shows up with a new handle if their IP address is dynamic and can’t be permablocked. Half the fun of this blog used to be identifying who has reappeared after getting whacked.
And, since you’re not the first hater to come on here indiscriminantly denouncing, it’s natural to try to ponder whether we’ve met you before with a different name.
Ain’t like it used to be. The fact that MT’s post from 10:14 yesterday is still up is proof to me that Katherine and/or the Strib are neglecting this blog. They’re pobably no longer paying Katherine enough to care about it.
But instead of railing against dumb things people say, QF,
What do you think about the main topic?
The 4th Amendment issue?
Or are you just here to get mad and throw stones?
Plus Sgt I’d rather see the kids in Public Schools get those shots first. How about you?
Maybe little little kids should get it first. You know Sgt like the 6-year-old that died here.
“Its your basic liberal Baby Boomer Frauds
“Don’t trust anyone over 30″
Then they all turned 30. Then its okay.”
Take Roger Daltrey for example.
‘I hope I die before I get old.’
Talkin’ ’bout my generation, my @ss. You’re old Roger.
“I think you and Roosevelt the pug should take a trip to Washington DC.
sneak onto the Whitehouse lawn, sh!t Rooselvelt on it and then swing on the swingset. When Secret Service tackles you, say, “What? this swingset is mine too.”
That would be funny. ”
I wanna go with Tiny .. and I think we should bring GO.
Then it would be REALLY funny.
“The fact that MT’s post from 10:14 yesterday is still up is proof to me that Katherine and/or the Strib are neglecting this blog.”
I know. Come in that sense is spelled with a U.
“I wanna go with Tiny .. and I think we should bring GO.”
The three of you can sing “this land is your land, this land is my land” as they haul you off in straightjackets.
This swing is my swing
this swing is your swing
from my kids’ school playground,
to the F-in West Wing…
Of course KK’s abandoned this blog. H-ll, even most of her columns are recycled.
“Any President but especially one who claims to represent the little people. Little people DO NOT have 7,000$ swing sets.” Tiny, can you clarify something for me? Are you saying the only people who can care about the “little people” are other “little people”?
“People should be outraged a racist is given a public forum to regurgetate hate. People should be outraged you bottom feeders are allowed to carry on with your perverse sexual references.”
im kinda embarrassed to admit this in public Q, but your really starting to turn me on … many more posts like that and i might have to turn to my good friend rosey
“The three of you can sing “this land is your land, this land is my land” as they haul you off in straightjackets. ”
DAR .. you come with too ..
and t and mt .. and stevek ..
and Mark .. we need a banker ..
for bail and stuff.
We could pull a trailer and put D2 and Qtip in it ..
“even most of her columns are recycled.”
Well, the careworn theme of little things the Muslims amongst us do to tick us off is definitely a Kersten staple. But at least her Sunday piece was in response to the latest development in something she’d covered before. At least she was reacting to something that happened in the same week.
I frankly haven’t allocated the energy to be outraged.
Hey stevek ..
I’ll be Qtip wears leather ..
and has a whip ..
and a fly swatter.
“People should be outraged you bottom….”
Is it just me, or does QF start to remind anyone of an angry, sexually conflicted, lonesome d2?
“Hey stevek ..
I’ll be Qtip wears leather ..
and has a whip ..
and a fly swatter. ”
that did it, put me over the top, ill be back shortly with some tissues and keyboard cleaner
“Any President but especially one who claims to represent the little people.”
Hey tiny, the Prez issupposed to represent ALL the people, not discriminate between this group and that. Jeez, you’re so class conscious.
“the Prez issupposed to represent ALL the people”
Obama does represent ALL people, unless they are responsible and work for a living.
Another example of how massive illegal immigration is destroying this country, especially California:
www.startribune.com/nation/66905772.html?page=1&c=y
The Leftist Green Party mayor of Richmond California has an illegal alien “Santuary City” policy as well.
The Home Depot in Rogers caters to illegal aliens and has ALL of it’s signs in the store printed in English AND Spanish.
People should be outraged!
Estoy indignado! ¿Cómo se atreven a imprimir sus signos en Inglés!
People should be outraged you bottom feeders are allowed to carry on with your perverse sexual references.
Relax, I wouldn’t come in your face if you paid me.
“Obama does represent ALL people, unless they are responsible and work for a living”
Ya, fixin’ healthcare ain’t gonna do NOTHIN’ for those folks. And alternative energy too. Power grids been workin’ just fine ’til now. Responsible, hatd working Americans don’t need nobody lookin’ to the future. It’ll be here soon enough…..
Is it just me, or does QF start to remind anyone of an angry, sexually conflicted, lonesome d2?
Is it just me, or does QF start to remind anyone of d2?
Fixed it for you.
Los inmigrantes deben aprender a adaptarse a nosotros, no al revés.
La gente debe ser ultrajado!
“Ya, fixin’ healthcare ain’t gonna do NOTHIN’ for those folks.”
Sure it will. A government takover will give them long lines, rationing, higher costs, and less quality.
“A government takover will give them long lines, rationing, higher costs, and less quality”
Well, then you can rest easy ,there, d2, ’cause O ain’t plannin’ no gub’ment takeover. And see, you were all worried about NOTHIN’.
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/28/MNBN1ABKB8.DTL
(10-27) 19:19 PDT SACRAMENTO — Did Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s office use a coded veto message to send the f-bomb to Tom Ammiano, soon after the San Francisco assemblyman made news by telling the governor to “kiss my gay ass”?
Schwarzenegger’s people say no. But the X-rated evidence is hard to miss in a message that Schwarzenegger sent to explain why he was vetoing an Ammiano bill dealing with financing for the Port of San Francisco.
A straight reading of the guv’s letter laments “the fact that major issues are overlooked while many unnecessary bills come to me for consideration,” and concludes, “I believe it is unnecessary to sign this measure at this time.”
But a vertical read of the far-left-hand letters in each of the missive’s eight lines offers a more blunt explanation: “I f- you.”
Schwarzenegger’s press secretary, Aaron McLear, insisted Tuesday it was simply a “weird coincidence.” He sent us veto messages the governor sent out in the past with linguistic lineups such as “soap” and “poet,” which he said were also unintended.
“Well, then you can rest easy ,there, d2, ’cause O ain’t plannin’ no gub’ment takeover. And see, you were all worried about NOTHIN’.”
Obama would like nothing more than a gub’ment takeover of our healthcare system. I can find his exact quote if you don’t believe it.
We just got some e-mails from the staff at the ELCA church we attend. They said that if the congregation votes to go against the Bible’s teachings and promote homosexual marriage by staying with the ELCA, they are all leaving.
Good for them! The vote is coming up in a few days and I wouldn’t miss it for the world.
“I can find his exact quote if you don’t believe it”
Can you find some legislation, in the House or Senate, that would enable this gub’ment takeover of yours? If so, please send a link. If not, then get off it. Misinformation is soooooo boring.
D2, do you know if your church is pissed about this?
From FOX news,
Comedian Larry David is under attack from critics who say he pushed the mocking of religion and Christian belief in miracles over the edge in the latest episode of his HBO series “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” which the cable network defended as “playful.”
On the show’s most recent installment, which aired Sunday, David urinates on a painting of Jesus Christ, causing a woman to believe the painting depicts Jesus crying.
During Sunday’s episode, David, who created, wrote and produced “Seinfeld,” visits a bathroom in his assistant’s home and splatters urine on a picture of Jesus. Instead of wiping it off, David leaves the restroom. Minutes later, David’s assistant enters the bathroom and concludes that Jesus is crying. She then summons her mother to the bathroom, where both women kneel in prayer.
“The episode, “The Bare Midriff,” primarily revolves around David’s assistant and her belly-revealing attire. According to the show’s Web site, a “new pill” increased David’s urine flow, leading to the “misunderstanding about a miraculously weeping Jesus.”
“They said that if the congregation votes to go against the Bible’s teachings and promote homosexual marriage by staying with the ELCA, they are all leaving”
And when they go, they will all pledge to follow the Mad Magazine version of the bible.
“On the show’s most recent installment, which aired Sunday, David urinates on a painting of Jesus Christ, causing a woman to believe the painting depicts Jesus crying.”
he’s so brave and cutting edge, poking fun and christianity. lets see some spine and have them do it to a likeness of mohammed. its just so “edgy” going after an easy target. big p@ssy
“D2, do you know if your church is pissed about this?”
Nice pun.
There are no official images of Mohammend for him to piss on.
He did do one episode where he accidently knocked the vail off a Muslim woman.
“There are no official images of Mohammend for him to piss on.”
Isnt it Allah you cant depict? Are you sure Mohammed is also off limits?
“lets see some spine and have them do it to a likeness of mohammed”
Hey stevek, think maybe David was spoofing those christians that see likenesses of christ or mary in bread or a shroud or something like that with his brave, cutting edge episode? ‘Cause you really don’t have that type of phenomenom going on in islam like you do in christianity(or more specifically, in catholicism), so pissing on mohammed really wouldn’t be as funny.
As opposed to being a man with big cojones, that is?
Images of the Prophet are forbidden too.
There are some artists’ images of him in Western history books but not on the walls in mosques.
That’s why the Danish cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb in his turban was such a big deal.
I thought that was Allah. I forget. Probably because I dont really care.
I look at this now and I think. If Ted Kennedy really really believed in helping the needy he would have giving all his money away and have lived a modest life.
These democrats don’t and I have to wonder then..what are their motives.
Look at HHH thats a pretty modest place out in Waverly.
Look at guys like Wellstone and Franken. These guys are TRUE Liberals. I know Al probably has some money but he lives a pretty modest life. No mansions scattered all around the country. Wellstone probably didn’t have a pot to piss in compared to guys like Kerry and Kennedy.
Look at your top “liberals” today from the politicians to the media types. Damn near all are millionaires.
Jackson, Sharpton these guys aren’t worried about where they are going to sleep at night. Bunch of Bull Sh^t.
If Larry David wanted to do a sketch that was equivalently offensive to Muslims, maybe he could pee in a snowbank and accidentally draw Mohammed’s face.
“I look at this now and I think. If Ted Kennedy really really believed in helping the needy he would have giving all his money away and have lived a modest life.”
Percentage is the key. I wonder what percentage of his time and money he gave away?
Of course I think letting a women drown to save your carear pretty much decides it for me.
Maybe if he was taking a crap and tore some pages out of the Koran to wipe his @ss? Would that be offensive enough?
“Look at your top “liberals” today from the politicians to the media types. Damn near all are millionaires”
How about your top conservatives, tiny? How do they come out? Or are they all off the hook because, after all, they’re conservatives, and conservatives supposed to be self centered?
Hell in My Communist revolution rich politicians like Kennedy and Kerry would be impaled on stakes right along side the Wall Street Fat Cats.
“How about your top conservatives, tiny?”
I knew it…I guess you can’t tell the difference between a rich person blaming the rich for everything and a person who doesn’t. Or the difference between a rich person who wants to take your money and give it to someone else. Or one that says they care sooooooo much about the poor then go for a ride on their Yacht .
“Would that be offensive enough?”
Yes I reckon that would earn him a death-fatwa.
“D2, do you know if your church is pissed about this?”
It’s just in bad taste Deac, I don’t think anyone would be pissed. Larry David would get the death penalty under Islamic Sharia law if he did something similiar with Moh@mmed.
I heard they are imposing Sharia Law on society in some of the soci@list countries.
“Or are they all off the hook because, after all, they’re conservatives, and conservatives supposed to be self centered?”
It’s the perceived hypocrisy Tiny has a problem with. Liberals can’t be rich because they are supposed to be looking out for the poor little guy. If they are rich and have more than they need the aren’t practicing what they preach. Everyone knows conservatives are out for themselves and represent other rich folks, therefore there is no hypocrisy issue in a rich conservative. A poor conservative like D2, now there is a problem.
Norm Coleman was probably the poorest guy in the US Senate, financially.
Not sure why it matters really.
I like to think if I were rich I’d be like Warren Buffet when it came to writing my will.
And voting for a progressive tax rate.
And not running for Senate.
“I heard they are imposing Sharia Law on society in some of the soci@list countries.”
Like?
I’ve heard a lot of stupid things I don’t repeat.
“I like to think if I were rich I’d be like Warren Buffet when it came to writing my will.”
Id give it all to Universities, NPR and PBS. Then everything would be brought to you by ‘The Deacon Blues Foundation.’ Id have statues of myself in front of University buildings twirling my banker mustache.
Tiny, I’m still trying to figure out whay you can’t be rich and care about poor people. I mean, why can’t one rich person believe they should pay more taxes and another one believe they pay enough? I’m not getting your point.
“I knew it…I guess you can’t tell the difference between a rich person blaming the rich for everything and a person who doesn’t. Or the difference between a rich person who wants to take your money and give it to someone else. Or one that says they care sooooooo much about the poor then go for a ride on their Yacht .
Ya, tiny, that’s kinda like the difference between a politician who gets caught cheating on his wife and the “family values” politician who gets caught cheating on his wife, right?
I used to think there was a big difference there-that’s it was somehow worse that a guy who campaigns on a certain virtue gets caught violating that very virtue than just your regular schmoe politician who gets caught with his pants down. And there is a difference-one is just a slightly bigger hypocrite than the other. That’s about it.
If you want to argue about how many angels can dance on the head of your pin, go for it. If you think it’s bad that people who champion “the little guy” make money, terrific. I say actions speak louder than words, no matter how much money you make or what letter is behind your name.
Deac says:
“Like?”
Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts
ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.
(read more)
I’d like to see a civiled western court allowed to exist in ANY Islamic country, but that would never happen.
“Liberals can’t be rich because they are supposed to be looking out for the poor little guy”
Such a deal. Sounds like communism to me.
“Liberals can’t be rich because they are supposed to be looking out for the poor little guy”
Not liberal democrat Mark Dayton, he’s trying to buy his way into office again. This time he has his eye on Pawlenty’s office.
“Hey stevek, think maybe David was spoofing those christians that see likenesses of christ or mary in bread or a shroud or something like that with his brave, cutting edge episode?”
its not the specific instance, its the idea that its somehow risque and daring to poke fun at christianity, when its a tired safe way to get laughs. if they really want to be daring they can make fun of islam. as has been mentioned a fatwa for their deaths would be issued, riots in the streets, muslim groups from around the world demanding their jobs and their hides. i dont wanna hear how clever some lame comedian is by making fun of christians, do a skit on islam and i’ll be impressed.
“Tiny, I’m still trying to figure out whay you can’t be rich and care about poor people.”
Because you dont care enough to give your money away. At least thats Tiny’s theory.
A poor conservative is all about envy, or dilusion. Take your pick.
“i dont wanna hear how clever some lame comedian is by making fun of christians, do a skit on islam and i’ll be impressed”
Fair enough.
“ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.”
it was only a matter of time d2.. you can see the western european democracies decaying from within, just as it was planned.
“I say actions speak louder than words, no matter how much money you make or what letter is behind your name.”
Montty, I think that’s what Tiny is trying to say, actions speak louder than words. Liberals who cry about the plight of poor people, then head back to the family compound with 3000 cable TV channels, leather couches and fridges full of imported beer, there is a problem with the symmetry between their actions and their words.
Me, I vote on crocodile tears. I want to see a really really good cry if I’m going to vote for a progressive. If they can’t cry on command, I’m not voting for them.
“ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases”
Did you read he whole article, d2? How about this paragraph:
“Jewish Beth Din courts operate under the same provision in the Arbitration Act and resolve civil cases, ranging from divorce to business disputes. They have existed in Britain for more than 100 years, and previously operated under a precursor to the act”
So you’re all bent out of shape about muslims doing something now in England that the jews have been doing for over 100 years? So, it’s OK for the jews to have their own courts, but not the muslims?
We have similar arrangements in the US. Native americans have their own tribal councils.
“it was only a matter of time d2.. you can see the western european democracies decaying from within, just as it was planned.”
Good point Steve. If we’re not careful it will infect us as well. At least we have the Atlantic Ocean as a buffer, but liberals keep importing Muslim refugee’s here like the Somali’s to get on the dole and become future democrat voters. They got Keith Hakim Ellison (DFL) in anyway (with the help of ACORN).
“They got Keith Hakim Ellison (DFL) in anyway”
Yeah, the fact that there has been a DFL representative in the 5th for 46 years is irrelevant. ACORN was required to get a DEM elected in MPLS. What a joke.
Ellison won the last election with 70.9% of the vote comapred to White’s 22%. How much of that 48.9% @ss kicking because of ACORN?
Montty, Judeo-Christian society is much different than Islamic society, especially when it comes to arraigned marriages, stoning, forced female genital mutilation, etc….
“Montty, I think that’s what Tiny is trying to say, actions speak louder than words”
And my point, Deacon, is that being liberal doesn’t preclude one from becoming financially secure-rich even-just as being conservative doesn’t absolve one from any social responsibilty.
Now the new testament differs with this socieo-ecomonic theory of mine-the “eye in the needle” parable specifically-and I do appreciate tiny’s position. More than anything, I’m poking fun at him, trying to show him how close he still is philosophically to his communist leanings of past.
Deac, of course a leftist will win in the communist 6th. I was talking about Keith Hakim Ellison beating more honorable candidates like Mike Erlandson (DFL) with the help of the immigrant Somali community and ACORN.
I meant the communist 5th district. Sorry
“Montty, Judeo-Christian society is much different than Islamic society, especially when it comes to arraigned marriages, stoning, forced female genital mutilation, etc…”
D2, as soon as you read ALL of the old testament, not just the passages that you cherry pick to fit your own personal prejudices, then I’ll be happy to talk to you about it. You’ll find all the stuff that you decry in islam and more in the old testament. You just refuse to look.
One difference is that some sects of islam adhere closely to some sections of the koran AS WRITTEN more closely than others. This, by the way, is the position you seem to defend concerning christianity and the bible.
You see, d2? You’re really a radical islamist at heart.
Liberals who cry about the plight of poor people, then head back to the family compound with 3000 cable TV channels, leather couches and fridges full of imported beer, there is a problem with the symmetry between their actions and their words.
Unless they’re capitalists and rely on poor people having enough money to spend.
Your example is like saying: Sportsmen who cry about the plight of ducks and pheasants, then head back to the family compound with 30-06s, leather couches and fridges full of venison, there is a problem with the symmetry between their actions and their words.
I don’t see a problem with the symmetry at all. No game, no hunting. I think a lot of wealthy liberals fee the same way. Too many impoverished people is simply bad for business.
I’m pretty sure Dare2 did not read that article he linked to.
One last thing, and then I’m gone for the day(please, hold the applause).
Deacon wrote:
“Me, I vote on crocodile tears”
I used to vote strictly by the letter behind the name. My dad did and his dad did and so on. My “tiny” moment came when Gov. Wendell Anderson appointed himself senator while I was studying overseas. Openned my eyes to the possibilities, so to speak.
Now I vote for the person-or against the opponent. I still lean to the left(really, I’m not kidding), but that doesn’t mean I automatically vote that way. Seems to me the 2 big parties in this country count on the automatic vote, and it’s one of the things holding this country back.
Looks like things are getting worse in Afghanistan. Why won’t Obama do what’s right and send the needed help the experts there are begging for? He’s allowing American soldiers and innocent Afghani people to be murdered by Islamic extremists by not sending more help to kill these bastards.
“It’s the perceived hypocrisy Tiny has a problem with. Liberals can’t be rich because they are supposed to be looking out for the poor little guy. If they are rich and have more than they need the aren’t practicing what they preach.”
As a old Commie I guess its all about being even ( even thou it never was ).
To the best of knowledge Franken lives a pretty modest lifestyle. Maybe now he’ll get a land deal and be “just one of them” in a couple years.
I guess Fat Boy really gets me here. Do we know where he gets he’s medical care. I think he lives pretty modestly but he has a really big mouth and should be living in a Rambler.
See what I’m saying?
And I still think that “Playland” in the White House yard is a little over the top. Really honesty an old tire on a rope would have gone a long way.
“I’m pretty sure Dare2 did not read that article he linked to.”
It correctly reported that Islamic Sharia law is now being used in England. This is insane and as Steve points out, shows the decay of western civilization.
Mark I think theres a little more to it than just caring for the poor.
I guess the best example is when we are getting lectured by John Edwards and he’s trying to make us all feel bad.
That house or Castle or what ever it was was just a little to much. About 100 times to much.
You have to wonder what the level of this guys compassion and caring is…and what his motives really are.
“Montty, Judeo-Christian society is much different than Islamic society, especially when it comes to arraigned marriages, stoning, forced female genital mutilation, etc…. ”
Okay idiot ..
It’s a democracy as opposed to a theocracy.
Get it? We live in a DEMOCRACY. NOT a THEOCRACY.
God you’re a bonehead.
“I’m pretty sure Dare2 did not read that article he linked to. ”
You should probably up that to VERY sure.
“I meant the communist 5th district. Sorry ”
It’s okay ..
everyone knows you meant the fascist 6th district.
“Get it? We live in a DEMOCRACY. NOT a THEOCRACY.”
Not if the Islamists here get their way Greg.
Also the fact the we not only allowed the Flying Imam’s to get away with their stunt but financially rewarded them for it, despite the fact that we are at war with the Islamic terrorists they were trying to mimic, shows that western civilization is in trouble even in America.
“I guess Fat Boy really gets me here. Do we know where he gets he’s medical care. I think he lives pretty modestly but he has a really big mouth and should be living in a Rambler.”
Who’s fat boy?
“Not if the Islamists here get their way Greg. ”
That’s right .. spread some more lies D2 ..
““Not if the Islamists here get their way Greg. ”
That’s right .. spread some more lies D2 .. ”
That’s the definition of Islamist you idiot!
“That’s the definition of Islamist you idiot! ”
Okay moron .. one more time ..
WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY …
Do you get it now BONEHEAD?
You’re so overwhelmed with trying to induce paranoia that you can’t comprehend anything other than the scripts you get in your emails.
Quinbus Flestrin, I was disappointed by your posts today. You are showing no depth. No intellectual depth. No depth of character. No creativity. No humor. Not much of anything. I accept you as you are, but I was hoping for more.
From you, we just get the same old refrain: We are maggots, disgusting, perverts, scum, dregs, bottom feeders, idiots, morons, etc.
Okay, we get that part. zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Do you have anything else?
“Quinbus Flestrin, I was disappointed by your posts today. You are showing no depth. No intellectual depth. No depth of character. No creativity. No humor. Not much of anything. I accept you as you are, but I was hoping for more.
”
It has no genitalia …
there’s a word for that.
Here D2 .. I don’t like Wiki .. but I DARE you to read the entire piece … ALL of it .. without prejudice.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
“It has no genitalia …
there’s a word for that.”
genitalialess?
“Also the fact the we not only allowed the Flying Imam’s to get away with their stunt but financially rewarded them for it, despite the fact that we are at war with the Islamic terrorists they were trying to mimic, shows that western civilization is in trouble even in America. ”
Has it ever occured to you that this kind of crap allowed them the set up?
Idiots spreading lies and paranoia … that’s what made the bank for ‘em.
“genitalialess? ”
That works ..
it’s unique.
we just get the same old refrain: We are maggots, disgusting, perverts, scum, dregs, bottom feeders, idiots, morons, etc.
“Minions” was the word today. I think even Katerine would have a problem with that one.
That crossed a line.
“Maggots” was much more accurate
““Maggots” was much more accurate ”
Agreed ..
Katie’s maggots.
“WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY …”
Then why are liberal organizations importing people at taxpayers expense who don’t want to live in a DEMOCRACY?
It’s liberal attitudes like yours Greg that allowed Sharia Law to rule in England, as well as the London train bombings by Somali immigrants.
My “tiny” moment came when Gov. Wendell Anderson appointed himself senator while I was studying overseas. Openned my eyes to the possibilities, so to speak.
That was mine too Monty. Now I start with the fact that they’re all lying egomaniacs and try and sort it out from there.
“Then why are liberal organizations importing people at taxpayers expense who don’t want to live in a DEMOCRACY?”
You still don’t get it and you haven’t read what I put out for you ..
if you can’t help yourself then you’re just destined to put out idiotic crap.
Here:
Democracy = Government
Theocracy = Government
Christian = Religion
Islam = Religion
Democracy is NOT religion.
It’s idiotic extremists like yourself D2 that allow other idiots to get large amounts of cash providing a demonstration ….
“That was mine too Monty. Now I start with the fact that they’re all lying egomaniacs and try and sort it out from there. ”
Agreed.
Some are idiots also ..
lying, egomaniac, idiots.
“lying, egomaniac, idiots.”
Yeah, when you do the sort that one usually comes out on top.
I think QF is also gay
Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! He’s yours, hetero community, yours!!!!!!!!!
I’ve known and know several homosexual men who I’d trust with children far more than with you D2.
I don’t know EBF personally, but he presents himself as a far more responsible person than you on this blog…
and most likely in real life as well.
Thanks, Greg. But I try to avoid children. Not only do I not particularly like them, I also worry that some boy raised by a homophobic father will falsely accuse me of molesting him. Kids can be extremely mean, and a malicious accusation — even an unsubstantiated phony one — can do a lot of damage.
Oh, and it’s Mary Cheney who is the lesbian daughter of former vice-president Prick Cheney. She’s not terribly popular in the GLBT community.
“She’s not terribly popular in the GLBT community.
Why?
“Kids can be extremely mean, and a malicious accusation — even an unsubstantiated phony one — can do a lot of damage.”
I think the mean ones are a product of their environment…
but I understand your feeling the way you do .. it’s unfortunate…VERY unfortunate.
I like this show Modern Family
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!, Mr Fauvel. You are mistaken. He/she belongs to you!
Oh, I don’t want her, you can have her. She’s too fat for me…
She’s too fat for me…
“Fat bottomed girls make the rockin’ world go round”
“Oh, I don’t want her, you can have her. She’s too fat for me… ”
I say deport it ..
I like this show Modern Family
Two words.
World Series.
Actually , I love fat girls, and skinny ones too.
I think the lyrics to that polka are funny though.
“Who’s fat boy?”
Greg if I told Ya you’d just forget anyway.
“From you, we just get the same old refrain: We are maggots, disgusting, perverts, scum, dregs, bottom feeders, idiots, morons, etc.”
You are right Mr. Leland. I’ve got nothing. I’m spent exhausted, woreout, devalued, debilitated, busted, broke, whipped and deluted. Bottom line, I’m done.
ya all have a good one. Your the best bunch of maggots, disgusting, perverts, scum, dregs, bottom feeders, idiots, morons, etc I’ve ever had the pleasure to jostle with.
EBF I was just pulling your leg.
GO
Two words.
World Series.
Three words.
Wolves home opener.
Yawwwnn…
Awesome pitching matchup tonight.
“GO”
I called it.
Leland8 ..
are you a fan of ..
Whoopee Jon?
Wolves home opener.
Is it even televised? I hope you haven’t spent more than a passing click on it.
Awesome pitching matchup tonight.
No Shiite.
What an egocentric individual.
Your blog friends thank you for wasting their time.
Greg, I’m really not a polka fan. I don’t dislike it, but I don’t know much about it.
Mr G, As far as what Mr. Former Carrier told you a long time ago: I second the motion.
but I don’t know much about it.
He always thought it was Whoopee “Johnson.”
“Greg, I’m really not a polka fan. I don’t dislike it, but I don’t know much about it. ”
me either but it was fun to get drunk to ..
“Greg if I told Ya you’d just forget anyway. ”
I keep notes.
How about “The Six Fat Dutchmen”? Great name. Can you imagine a rock band known as the Six Fat Dutchmen?
“Greg if I told Ya you’d just forget anyway. ”
I believe it was the guy next to Jimmy Carter at the 2006 Dem convention.
Wally Pikal ..
“I believe it was the guy next to Jimmy Carter at the 2006 Dem convention. ”
I have no idea who that was .. or is ..
Micheal Moore.
Michael Moore.
Okay ..
gracias
GO, you are too funny! For a while I did think it was you, but you making fun with “Quinpuss Festering” made me think otherwise. I shoulda known….
Not if the Islamists here get their way Greg.
Here and I thought it was the Christian Right that wanted our secular laws to be based on the Bible.
Could it be that D2 has no idea what he’s talking about?
Say it ain’t so.
Could it be that D2 has no idea what he’s talking about?
Why you all feed the troll is beyond me.
Set yourself free.
“[Mary Chaney is] not terribly popular in the GLBT community.
Why?
She’s generally seen as having sold out. She has chosen to use her wealth for a life of luxury and entitlement instead of for supporting GLBT rights (although, to her credit, she did donate $5,000 to the “No on 8” campaign in California). She supports politicians with anti-gay views and does little to further the cause of gay rights. She and her partner, Heather Poe, choose to reside in a state with one of the most onerous constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage – Virginia – despite raising one child and expecting another.
Someone of her public prominence and wealth could do so much more for gay rights than she chooses to do. Some have tried to explain that GLBT rights simply come second to other issues more important to her – national security, “less government,” and any number of other Republican talking points. But to many of us in the GLBT community, she comes across as someone who knows her wealth will protect her from all of the unpleasant things most GLBT people inevitably face. Since her wealth will protect her, she doesn’t care; she can afford to ignore the problems of the greater GLBT community. She’s a “let them eat cake” kind of gal. Or so it seems.
No one begrudges her the right to make these choices; after all, it is her life to live as she wishes. But her choices speak volumes about her values – or lack thereof. While it may be unfair for others to judge her decisions, that is the price celebrities – even unwitting ones – pay, and her choices earn her little respect, if any, within the GLBT community.
QF is GO?!?
Incredible!
Hook, line and sinker, man. You are too much.
I thought for sure it was the bride of d2….
“Why you all feed the troll is beyond me. ”
You’re right ..
but ..
it is fun to watch him go from dumb ..
to dumber.
“No one begrudges her the right to make these choices;”
Then why bother with any of what you wrote before that?
But her choices speak volumes about her values – or lack thereof.
I can’t believe you wrote that.
While it may be unfair for others to judge her decisions, that is the price celebrities – even unwitting ones – pay,
May be unfair?!?!
and her choices earn her little respect, if any, within the GLBT community.
I thought this was all about freedom to make “choices”?
it is fun to watch him go from dumb ..
to dumber.
Been there. Done that.
“Someone of her public prominence and wealth could do so much more for gay rights than she chooses to do.”
You mean pushing for gay marriage? Many homosexuals just don’t support that concept.
Many homosexuals just don’t support that concept.
Name one.
Then why bother with any of what you wrote before that?
Because you asked “why.”
I can’t believe you wrote that.
Why? Is it any less true for Mary Cheney than for the rest of us? Every person’s values are reflected in the choices he or she makes.
I thought this was all about freedom to make “choices”?
The freedom to make one’s own choices — which I fully support — does not mean that everyone else must approve of those choices.
Personally, I do not approve of Mary Cheney’s choices. But they are hers to make, and I will not try to stop her from making them as she wishes. Unlike some people (d2, ahem, d2), I do not propose civil statutes and constitutional amendments to prevent people from making decisions I personally don’t like.
Many homosexuals just don’t support that concept.
Some don’t. I wouldn’t say “many.” Gay men and lesbians who do not support same-sex marriage are a minority within the GLBT community.
“I don’t see a problem with the symmetry at all. No game, no hunting. I think a lot of wealthy liberals fee the same way. Too many impoverished people is simply bad for business.”
I dont really care one way or the other, they’re all crooks to me. I was just trying to explain what I think Tiny is getting at.
“Minneapolis is the safest city in America, according to the Forbes.com 2009 list.
The metropolitan area took the No. 1 rank of America’s safest cities, ranking in the top 10 in all four categories, including low crime rate, workplace fatalities, traffic-related deaths and natural disaster risk….
….Minneapolis is experiencing double-digit reductions in violent crime, which is falling for the third straight year and is at the lowest level in nearly a decade.
Minneapolis credits proactive policing, targeting the most violent criminals and reducing youth violence to playing a part in reducing crime.”
ttp://wcco.com/local/safest.city.Minneapolis.2.1273874.html
Did you see this D2?
Old O better not waffle when it comes time to go in and dismantle those damn Nukes in Pakistan.
Being President is HARD!
“I dont really care one way or the other, they’re all crooks to me.”
ding ding ding ding, we have a winner. plz present the blog trophy to the man from alabama
“I don’t see a problem with the symmetry at all. No game, no hunting. I think a lot of wealthy liberals fee the same way.”
I read this a second time. No game no hunting…..
Sounds about right. The liberals(hunters) need the poor(game) so they can keep hunting(screwing) them.
At least conservatives are honest about it. The liberals want to keep the poor just poor enough so they continue to need them and with enough crumbs so to keep them happy and voting.
Well, say what you will about the President, but someone taught that man how to give a proper salute. Don’t know if any of you saw the footage of him at Dover when the soldiers’ caskets came in, but he gave them a salute that any Marine Corps DI would be proud of.
Oh, and Q3 GDP actually rose 3.2%. Be nice to have some jobs with that, but it’s an improvement nonetheless.
“At least conservatives are honest about it. The liberals want to keep the poor just poor enough so they continue to need them”
For a very long time ( and even after getting older and more conservative ) I didn’t want to believe that. But now I believe it and am disgusted by it.
“Oh, and Q3 GDP actually rose 3.2%. Be nice to have some jobs with that, but it’s an improvement nonetheless.”
So pretty up beat. Give the guy a chance. This is better than nothing.
Wow Sgt glass half full now with a D in there.
FRAUD
Deac & Tiny, then you also have to be offended by conservatives who don’t have 14 adopted babies in their family to prove their commitment to the abortion issue and the Christian conservatives giving 10% of their income to the church as the Bible requires.
“At least conservatives are honest about it. The liberals want to keep the poor just poor enough so they continue to need them and with enough crumbs so to keep them happy and voting”
Such cynicism! And some of you folks complain about KK painting with a wide brush….
While I’m sure there are politicians who fall into your catagories, Deacon, I refuse to believe conservatives in general are unabashedly evil and liberals are secretly so, if their cover were blown. Politics, done properly, is the art of compromise, and that isn’t necessarily evil. It depends on what you compromise.
“you also have to be offended by conservatives who don’t have 14 adopted babies in their family to prove their commitment to the abortion issue and the Christian conservatives giving 10% of their income to the church as the Bible requires.”
EM, dont confuse me explaining what Tiny says as me agreeing with what he says. I despise liberals and conservatives equally.
“Politics, done properly, is the art of compromise, and that isn’t necessarily evil. It depends on what you compromise.”
Sarcassm… HELLOOOOOOO???????
Compromise is using lube when you screw the public and telling them its your finger when its really one of D2’s 18″ ram rods.
“Oh, and Q3 GDP actually rose 3.2%. Be nice to have some jobs with that, but it’s an improvement nonetheless.”
All done with cost cutting. Im still counting the days until this stimulus bill they passed starts doing what I was told it would do. Tick Tock Tick Tock….
This is a paper recovery. Its ALLLLL on paper.
“Compromise is using lube when you screw the public and telling them its your finger when its really one of D2’s 18″ ram rods”
And while we’re being sarcastic, we should note how easy it is to be groovy these days with the “all politicians are crooks” line of reasoning.
Sorry Deac, I was doing a quick scroll over the last 16 hours. So I guess my question still stands to Tiny. He also needs to be disgusted by the conservatives.
Of course they’re not all crooks, but last time I checked they’re all Ds and Rs and Jimmy Carter is still in Plains GA.
I wish I could still believe in this system but lately the bull sh:t has gotten too hard to see through.
“This is a paper recovery”
And some of it isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on:
www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jMNoef6xDenBbHWO0Im6rIjDmAgAD9BKIN400
Do you all know what today is????
29200 days since the stock market crash people generally point to as the start of the great depression.
“Deac & Tiny, then you also have to be offended by conservatives who don’t have 14 adopted babies in their family to prove their commitment to the abortion issue and the Christian conservatives giving 10% of their income to the church as the Bible requires.”
See only a liberal would suspect those motives. Whats in it for me.
“AP IMPACT: Stimulus jobs overstated by thousands”
Montty, is this ram rod lubed or what?
“Deac & Tiny, then you also have to be offended by conservatives who don’t have 14 adopted babies in their family to prove their commitment to the abortion issue and the Christian conservatives giving 10% of their income to the church as the Bible requires.”
How good do I look saving the Planet. How many fake minority friends I have. Whats my care for the poor Halo.
“disgusted by the conservatives.”
If your a rich conservative and want everyone to work their way up and become rich too is a little different then some rich guy keeping all his money for himself yet running around complaining about the poor and other rich people.
Sounds about right. The liberals(hunters) need the poor(game) so they can keep hunting(screwing) them.
At least conservatives are honest about it.
Liberal leaders my be into fleecing the sheep, but conservative leaders are into slaughtering the lambs. All evils are not created equal.
“All evils are not created equal.”
Sure but you’re in bed with the lesser of the evil. Maybe you can deal with that, I cant.
“Montty, is this ram rod lubed or what?”
It’s hard to say at this point. I’m not surprised this or any administration would overstate recovery numbers for political reasons. The White House says the AP report is misleading:
but I’m not so sure. I agree politics can be a very dirty game. The liberal douchebag in me says that doesn’t mean it always is.
29200 days since the Big One, eh? Let’s hope that’s a benchmark we never surpass.
If your a rich conservative and want everyone to work their way up and become rich too…
From my experiences most (not all) of the people who worked their way up to become rich are liberals, while most (not all) of those who inherited their wealth tended to be conservatives.
“From my experiences most (not all) of the people who worked their way up to become rich are liberals, while most (not all) of those who inherited their wealth tended to be conservatives”
My experience has been that political persuasion has had little to do, in most cases, with amassing wealth.
Tiny, you still haven’t addressed the conservative frauds. Either you need to acknowledge that, just as Libs don’t care about the poor, conservatives really don’t care about the unborn or Christian values.
I won’t disagree with you if you agree there are frauds on both sides, but if you think it’s just a liberal thing, then you’re headed down the slippery slope to D2 Valley.
SgtP: The economy is doing better.
Tiny: FRAUD
SgtP: The economy is doing worse.
Tiny: FRAUD
SgtP: The Democrats are right.
Tiny: FRAUD
SgtP: I’m with the Republicans on this issue.
Tiny: FRAUD
I didn’t think it was possible for you to lose any more credibility Tiny, but you’re doing a terrific job.
Sure but you’re in bed with the lesser of the evil.
I’m doing my best to encourage them to keep the sheep happy and fat.
My experience has been that political persuasion has had little to do, in most cases, with amassing wealth.
I was talking about where they find themselves, not how they got there.
But that said, those who work their way up really do rely on a good economy to get there, while those who inherent their wealth only want the government to stay away from what was given to them.
“I’m doing my best to encourage them to keep the sheep happy and fat.”
Hows that working out for you?
“From my experiences most (not all) of the people who worked their way up to become rich are liberals, while most (not all) of those who inherited their wealth tended to be conservatives.”
Spend some time in the Saunas in Wright County and you’ll see different. Lots of small business ( 10 employees or less ) who are scared to death.
“Tiny, you still haven’t addressed the conservative frauds.”
Read past posts.
“the Saunas in Wright County”
This would make a great title for a book, much better than something like “The Bridges of Madison County”.
Hows that working out for you?
After the last eight years the bar is pretty low.
Not seeing em, Tiny.
“the Saunas in Wright County”
Sounds like a book EBF might be into.
“Spend some time in the Saunas in Wright County and you’ll see different. Lots of small business ( 10 employees or less ) who are scared to death. ”
Does that mean they’re only conservatives or only liberals?
Just me, but it seems this was a combined effort ..
“I was talking about where they find themselves, not how they got there”
Dan, Ive been thinking about your post, and I gotta say I disagree. There are some old moneyed families out there that pass the family boodle down thru the generations, but most of the upper income earners in this country are self made, small business owners that made it big. Most of ‘em say it’s not the destination but the journey that defines them. You gotta have a dream, and you gotta work hard, VERY hard.
“the Saunas in Wright County”
“Sounds like a book EBF might be into.”
“Public Restrooms of Wright County”
Hey Now!!!!!!!!!
“You gotta have a dream, and you gotta work hard, VERY hard.”
Or play the lottery. Ever see the crap, I mean the absolute no taste stupid business idea crap, lottery winners spend their money on? You can’t win taste, business sense or intelligence.
dingbats
There
Lois Quam supporting healthcare reform = Liberal Fraud
Bush Admin not allowing soldier casket photos = conservative fraud.
Go to the Strib homepage, my namesake’s in the news. Unfortunately, not good news.
“Dobbs said. “Three weeks ago this morning, a shot was fired at my house where I live. My wife was standing out and that followed weeks and weeks of threatening phone calls.”"
Crazy Rightwing Gun Nutjobs.
I took a shot at the Guthrie Theater during the Twins stadium debate and it made the printed Startribune.
One day after I started getting ALL DAY LONG harassing phone calls from some art loving Nutcase. Every half hour or so all damn day long.
“You can’t win taste, business sense or intelligence”
Money can be a magnifier. If you’re an idiot, it can magnify just how dumb you really are.
itals off?
“Money can be a magnifier. If you’re an idiot, it can magnify just how dumb you really are.”
You mean ahhhh you know ahhhh you mean like caroline kennedy.
wow someone really messed up their tags.
“my namesake’s in the news”
Bummer about Earsell. I had to look twice at his age, hard to believe he played so long ago. That ‘70 Super Bowl team was the best of the four. Woulda, coulda, shoulda….
“If you’re an idiot, it can magnify just how dumb you really are.”
I love that show ‘Lottery Changed My Life’ on TLC. Its like watching a freak show. Capped teeth, gigantic velvet paintings of Dogs Playing Pocker with Elvis all together in a gated community in FL.
The other thing about lottery winners I dont get is they all want to open recording studios and become record execs. Yeah, there’s a good industry to try and break into right now. Why not just have a bonfire with your money?
“You mean ahhhh you know ahhhh you mean like caroline kennedy”
Poor example, tiny. While she ain’t much of a politician, she has written a couple books and earned a law degree. I think someone like Mark Cuban is closer to what I mean. Or Rush Limbaugh.
“While she ain’t much of a politician, she has written a couple books and earned a law degree.”
Yeah, those a hard things to do if your name is Kennedy. Try knocking on Harvard Law School’s door and cold calling publishing houses if your name is Caroline Pawlowski. It’s a different experience all together. She’s a gravy trainer all the way.
“The other thing about lottery winners I dont get is they all want to open recording studios and become record execs. Yeah, there’s a good industry to try and break into right now. Why not just have a bonfire with your money? ”
I think I’d live in a gated community to.
I’d put fences up all around our property.
And unplug the phone.
And hire Mark for a ridiculously low amount to manage everything…
“Yeah, those a hard things to do if your name is Kennedy”
This is true. Lotsa folks(myself included) got on Ws case for being a silver spooner and having everything handed to him.
The difference is she got up off her butt and did something with her life. She hasn’t used her wealth and status as a big toy(Cuban) or to keep herself in OxyContin(Limbaugh).
And she is an example of those moneyed families Dan was talking about, while Cuban and Limbaugh are the self made model I referred to, people whose money that they made serves to magnify the worst in ‘em.
I bought a lottery ticket yesterday.
If I win,
First thing I’ll do is buy a big comfortable sedan with a good motor, nothing super flashy (maybe even an LTD police interceptor model) and I’d hire a driver. Someone who wasn’t tied down to being home at the same time every night. Someone currently working as a band roadie might be the ideal individual. Wouldn’t want to drive myself around during the period of time I’m getting used to newfound wealth, because I’d hate to run someone over and get sued for it.
“The difference is she got up off her butt and did something with her life.”
PPPFFFFFFTTTTTTT!!!!!!
“Someone currently working as a band roadie might be the ideal individual.”
I had a job once that kept me running into roadies. They were all drunk or stoned or both.
“I had a job once that kept me running into roadies. They were all drunk or stoned or both. ”
But they’re reasonably functional in a variety of states, they know where to find things, and probably wouldn’t be perturbed if I said, hey, “let’s drive to the West Coast for an indeterminate period of time,” or something like that.
And - this is key - I wouldn’t be the one driving. If I were a millionaire and didn’t have to work the next day, there’s no telling what sort of state of consciousness I’d be in at any given moment.
“If I were a millionaire and didn’t have to work the next day, there’s no telling what sort of state of consciousness I’d be in at any given moment.”
Cant tell with the roaddie either. Plus they may run over a pedestrian on the way out to the WC.
EBF, so if I’m a handicapped person, and I don’t support or belong to any handicapped organizations, that means I’m not really a handicapped person??
Or that I don’t support handicapped organizations??
Not everyone gets on their bandwagons.
Yeah, probably a better bet to hire the bus driver away from a band, not one of their roadies.
Or a cabby.
That’s it. Don’t even have to buy a car.
Just recruit youself a couple different independent cabbies who are well-paid to come when you call. Buy ‘em nice car stereos. You could have one in every major city.
That’s the plan.
Speakin’ of drunk or stoned or both,
Got my tics to the Hank III show.
“Someone of her public prominence and wealth could do so much more for gay rights than she chooses to do.”
Maybe being Dick Cheney’s daughter brings with it enormuce family preasure? I remember you saying once, and forgive me if I dont remember exactly what you said, but I think you said you didnt hold anything against gay men who get married to women and have kids and lie about their feelings because of family preasure. How is this any different? How is that not selling out and this is?
“Got my tics to the Hank III show.”
Did you check out those You Tube vids?
“NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — A total of 690,000 new vehicles were sold under the Cash for Clunkers program last summer, but only 125,000 of those were vehicles that would not have been sold anyway, according to an @nalysis released Wednesday by the automotive Web site Edmunds.com.
Still, auto sales contributed heavily to the economy’s expansion in the third quarter, adding 1.7 percentage points to the nation’s gross domestic product growth.
Is the economy really getting better?
The Cash for Clunkers program gave car buyers rebates of up to $4,500 if they traded in less fuel-efficient vehicles for new vehicles that met certain fuel economy requirements. A total of $3 billion was allotted for those rebates.
The average rebate was $4,000. But the overwhelming majority of sales would have taken place anyway at some time in the last half of 2009, according to Edmunds.com. That means the government ended up spending about $24,000 each for those 125,000 additional vehicle sales.”
More lube on that ram rod Montty?
“Did you check out those You Tube vids?”
Yeah, but every time I look at musical performances on youtube I’m reminded how terrible the sound is. Really strange washy compression artifacts in the treble. Like listening through a sheet of tin foil. It’s especially bad with twangy country music.
‘enormuce’
What the hell was I thinking there?
e n o r m o u s…..
So far I have been successful in completely ignoring Mary Cheney.
It’s like she doesn’t even exist.
Am I missing anything?
“More lube on that ram rod Montty?”
So, you’re whining about something that “contributed heavily to the economy’s expansion in the third quarter, adding 1.7 percentage points to the nation’s gross domestic product growth.”
Man, you are hard to please.
Anyway, I’ve never been a defender of C for C, and I’m not surprised it turned out to be more of a boondoogle than a benefit. We don’t need more cars, we need better cars, but that’s in the long term. It was a short term fix hurriedly enacted to stimulate economic activity. I don’t have a big problem with the idea-to stimulate the economy-but I wasn’t sold on the program.
As an aside, I’d be interested to look at edmonds methodolgy in their survey. I sure heard alot of people talking about getting a car while the program was going on. An 18% gain seems kinda low to me.
More lube on that ram rod Montty?
Yet it was critical that we give how many billions directly to the banks and automakers? $3 billion is chump change by comparison, it’s much more efficient cutting out the public when it comes to handouts, isn’t it?
“Yet it was critical that we give how many billions directly to the banks”
Well, I think it WAS critical to unfreeze the credit markets at the time, just as it wasn’t a bad idea to stimulate economic activity through new car sales. You’re right though, Dan, there was lots more “lube” applied to the bank deal than there was to the car deal.
And Deacon has a point: who ends up holding the bag?
“Man, you are hard to please.”
They took $4 billion and cramed 1.7% GDP growth that was coming anyway into one quarter. Woopeedeedoo. You’re easy to please.
“I sure heard alot of people talking about getting a car while the program was going on.”
The vast majority were in the market and waited for the program to start or bought earlier than they would have only so they could get a deal and take advantage of the govt money. This program caused very very few people to buy cars that werent going to before which is evident in the drop off of auto sales this quarter. It didnt create any deamnd that wasnt already there.
“Yet it was critical that we give how many billions directly to the banks and automakers?”
I think you know how I feel about TARP. Why must I always rail on TARP if Im railing on something else? Is it because Im a banker?
Is it because Im a banker?
$300 Billion direct to the banks? A must.
$3 Billion to consumers to buy a new car? A waste.
“And your little dog, too.”
From the CNN/Money article:
“Using traditional relationships between sales volumes of those vehicles and the types of vehicles sold under Cash for Clunkers, Edmunds.com projected what sales would normally have been during the Cash for Clunkers period and in the weeks after”
Let’s see, we were(and still may be) in a recession, unemployment was(and still is) climbing to it’s highest levels in decades, and Edmonds uses projections on what “usually” and “normally” would happen in the marketplace based on “traditional relationships”.
Man, you’re easy to snow.
“This program caused very very few people to buy cars that werent going to before which is evident in the drop off of auto sales this quarter.”
From CNN/Money:
“While auto sales in September were hurt because auto dealership inventories were drained of products by the program, sales this month are already back on track or better”
Yes, the program created demand-that was the point. Hard to sell cars next quarter if you don’t have any in inventory after that artificial demand surge.
“Yes, the program created demand-that was the point.”
I just hope that half the people who bought new Cash 4 Clunk cars aren’t in default on their loans this time next year…
“$300 Billion direct to the banks? A must.”
Stopped a complete collapse. Painful and most likely overkill in the number of banks forced to take it comapred to the ones who needed it.
“$3 Billion to consumers to buy a new car? A waste.”
Created virtually no demand that wasnt already there.
“Yes, the program created demand-that was the point. Hard to sell cars next quarter if you don’t have any in inventory after that artificial demand surge.”
No it didnt. It tool all the demand from three quarters and cramed it into one making it LOOK like it created demand.
By the way, think all the trade schools and charities that used to get those clunkers liked this program?
I’m not in the best place to make a good contribution, but, I don’t think that ANY predictions of what could or could not have happened can work right now.
We’re living in a giant crap shoot when it comes to the economy .. it’s a new world.
The good news is that maybe people will learn to save a bit better than they had.
“By the way, think all the trade schools and charities that used to get those clunkers liked this program?”
C4C made cars cheaper for affluent middle class people with jobs and credit who could affoard to buy a cars at the expense of taxpayers. Not to mention poor people who need clunkers because thats all they can affoard now are dealing with some of the highest used car rates ever and charities are out donations. Lube it up baby!!
What the hell was I thinking there?
e n o r m o u s…..
The preasure got to you.
“By the way, think all the trade schools and charities that used to get those clunkers liked this program?”
I already said I wasn’t a fan of C for C. I don’t care to defend it any more than you do TARP.
And dar raises an excellent point. The economy still sucks right now. Who’s to say lots of those C for C cars don’t get repo’ed next year.
“I’m not in the best place to make a good contribution, but, I don’t think that ANY predictions of what could or could not have happened can work right now”
Agreed, Greg. We’re in uncharted territory as far as the economy goes right now. The last recovery we had from a recession was pretty much jobless, who’s to say this one won’t be as well? If so, you can take your “usual” and “normal” “traditional relationships” assumptions and use ‘em for TP, ’cause they won’t be worth much else.
Who’s to say lots of those C for C cars don’t get repo’ed next year.
I repo’ed cars for about a year. Such a fun job. Legally stealing cars. How good is that?
Wouldn’t want to do it in Chicago or Detroit though.
“Using traditional relationships between sales volumes of those vehicles and the types of vehicles sold under Cash for Clunkers, Edmunds.com projected what sales would normally have been during the Cash for Clunkers period and in the weeks after”
They are using the traditional sales relationships between the sales of cars not in C4C as a base line to predict what C4C eligable cars would have been during that period. Whats wrong with that? What they found is that that relationship should only an additional increase of 125,000 cars. Maybe fewer none eligable C4C types vehicles were sold making the relationship look skewed?
“The economy still sucks right now. Who’s to say lots of those C for C cars don’t get repo’ed next year. ”
And sometimes a repo’d car has a space alien in the trunk and those are nothin’ but trouble.
“The preasure got to you”
mthalo lives!
But the best one today so far was:
“And your little dog, too.”
“I don’t care to defend it any more than you do TARP.”
My only defense of TARP is that it was the only thing to do at the time. Given what the FED was already doing, it was too big and not executed properly.
“Whats wrong with that?”
Well, we don’t “traditionally” have to deal with a financial markets meltdown, 2 wars and unemployment right around 10%. We are in “untraditional” waters right now. Heck, GM is in bankruptcy and Chysler is basically a dead man walking. What’s “traditional” about that in the auto industry?
“Well, we don’t “traditionally” have to deal with a financial markets meltdown, 2 wars and unemployment right around 10%.”
I understand the point. What Im trying to say is the C4C program’s success was dubious a best. In other words, loaded with lube.
I especially didnt like the mandatory destruction of the vehicles when schools and charities needed them now more than ever. There’s the ram rod .
“What’s “traditional” about that in the auto industry?”
Sounds like business as usual in Det. to me. Detroits been circling the toilet bowl now for about 35 years.
‘I say, let ‘em crash.’
Dan??? Remember that one?
Dan??? Remember that one?
“They bought their ticket. They knew what they were getting into…”
All. Time. Favorite.
One of Liberal Greg’s favorite fantacies:
“One of Liberal Greg’s favorite fantacies:”
Nah ..
but I gotta wonder why you’d be looking up things like that D2 …
then again.
P.S. I’m taking t’s advice.
EBF, so if I’m a handicapped person, and I don’t support or belong to any handicapped organizations, that means I’m not really a handicapped person??
Of course not. Is anyone claiming that Mary Cheney isn’t a lesbian?
Or that I don’t support handicapped organizations??
Well, if you don’t support any handicapped organizations, then yes, it means that you don’t support any handicapped organizations…. :)
Perhaps you meant to say that if you don’t support an organization monetarily, or by donating time, it is still possible to favor the organization and hope it succeeds with its mission. I would agree. However, Mary Cheney has the means to support financially the causes she favors. While it is possible that she does donate to one or more GLBT rights organizations without anyone knowing about it, her donations would probably be public knowledge within the GLBT community. In her case it is not unreasonable to conclude that her lack of monetary support indicates a lack of favor.
Not everyone gets on their bandwagons.
No, they don’t. But the fact that Mary Cheney, a wealthy out lesbian raising one child and expecting another with her long-term female partner in a gay-unfriendly state, is not on the GLBT rights bandwagon is precisely why the greater GLBT community holds her in contempt.
Maybe being Dick Cheney’s daughter brings with it enormuce family preasure? I remember you saying once, and forgive me if I dont remember exactly what you said, but I think you said you didnt hold anything against gay men who get married to women and have kids and lie about their feelings because of family preasure. How is this any different? How is that not selling out and this is?
Context, Mark, context.
First, Mary Cheney’s family supports her. While there most certainly is pressure in being a Cheney, any pressure Mary Cheney feels comes not from her immediate family – they support same-sex marriage – but rather from outsiders.
Second, Mary Cheney isn’t lying about who she is. She’s out and has been for a long time.
Finally, the gay men who lived a lie in days gone by found themselves in a very different world than Mary Cheney finds herself in today. Before 1974, homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder. Gay men exercising their right to free association by congregating in bars catering to them – and who were doing absolutely nothing illegal – were subject to arrest during random police raids. They often lost their jobs after being charged with things like “crimes against nature.” The “proof” of their “crime” was that they were in a gay bar. Guilt by association, in other words.
Back then, homosexuality was known as “the love that dare not speak its name,” and most people thought that “people like that killed themselves.” To an extent, those people were right; many gay people did kill themselves rather than live with the societal shame of being gay. Being gay was extremely shameful back then, and shame was a powerful tool to get people to conform – much more so than today, when shame seems to count for little. (It similarly used to be shameful to be pregnant outside of marriage, which is why shotgun weddings used to be so much more common than they are now.)
Gay men and lesbians often faced being disowned by their families and houses of worship when their sexual orientation became known. Parents no longer welcomed their gay children in their homes. The younger ones ended up on the streets. The older ones, if they were fortunate enough to hold onto their employment, were “merely” estranged. Gay children were written out of wills. Gay men and lesbians found themselves ostracized by the faith communities in which they had been raised.
Is it any wonder that people of those generations chose to live a lie?
Contrast all of that with the society in which gay men and lesbians (including Mary Cheney) live today. It is no longer shameful to be gay. Few parents disown their gay kids. Although still too few in number, gay-welcoming religious establishments are easy to find. Any police officer arresting someone merely for being gay or associating with other gay people would not only be fired, but also face civil and criminal lawsuits. Mental health professionals embrace not only the truth that homosexuality is not a mental illness, but also the truth that gay people can thrive by being honest with themselves and the world about who they are.
Compared to past generations, gay men and lesbians have it pretty good today. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t work to do in the area of GLBT rights, but we’ve come a long way.
I can understand, even excuse, older generations of gay men for living lies because they had little choice (or so they thought). They sold out because they had to. The consequences of being open and honest were too great for most of them. I cannot blame them for their choices. Nor can I reasonably expect them to change in their old age, although I have met many who have.
But Mary Cheney? Trying to compare her life to those of gay men of yesteryear is like comparing apples to giraffes. Hers is an utterly different situation that bears little resemblance to the environment in which older generations of gay men found themselves in their youth and middle years. Mary Cheney sold out not because she had to, but because she wanted to.
Oh, by the way, I know nothing about saunas or restrooms in Wright County, and can’t say I have even a molecule of interest in them….
I have a lot of respect for Mary Cheney. She acknowledges she’s a lesbian, but her sexuality doesn’t seem to consume every moment and every breath of her life. In other words, she doesn’t have a psycho-pathological obsession about it. It’s just no big deal and she is not out to boor the world with it. I like her.
leland, if GLBT people had equality — true equality — sexuality wouldn’t consume so much of the lives of the rest of us GLBT people. It would still consume the lives of people who don’t like us, much like skin color consumes the lives of racists.
Are you sure that dear Mary doesn’t eat bagels?
Mary Cheney sold out not because she had to, but because she wanted to.
Is there some kind of rule book or something on being a “proper” member of the GLBT community?
Maybe Mary never got the memo.
Is there some kind of rule book or something on being a “proper” member of the GLBT community?
Nope.
Like I said, no one begrudges her the right to make her decisions and live her life as she wishes. But that doesn’t mean that anyone has to approve of the decisions she makes. Just like no one has to approve of the decisions I make, or you make, or d2 makes….
Like I said, no one begrudges her the right to make her decisions and live her life as she wishes.
Sure sounds like some do.
I bet if her name was Mary Carter instead of Mary Cheney, she’d be held up as an example of a perfectly normal family.
“but I gotta wonder why you’d be looking up things like that D2 … ”
It’s funny, I just did a Dogpile search on the keywords “Liberal Greg” and “Greg’s Gayspace Page” and that video sticks out like a sore thumb!
Have a good day everyone! It’s my day off but a have to go into work anyway.
“It would still consume the lives of people who don’t like us”
Evil, again your biggest issue is gay marriage, and you’re trying to imply that people who oppose gay marriage don’t like gay people and that’s not the case. Even our ELCA church BEFORE the big vote encouraged homosexuals to be members and even allowed them to be Pastors as long as they weren’t practicing homosexuals.
When the vote comes up on whether or not to withdraw from the ELCA for their new support of gay marriage, we need to make it clear to people like my step mother that it’s not an issue of “liking gay people” or not, it’s an issue of whether or not we should divert from and go against what the Bible teaches us.
You know whats wrong with Todays media? I’ll tell Ya whats wrong with todays media.
Last night I turn it to CNN and there he is The Great Michael Ware. He’s telling us all about Afghanistan.
Now here is a man who was wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME on Iraq. Every prediction he had from A to Z was wrong. Yet here he is the “Expert” again. Expert my @ss.
And where is this pucks humility. The guy was wrong so many times he should crawl into a hole and want to die.
Yet there he is on CNN Blah blah blah blah. This Jerk should be exiled like that prick Kevin Sipes was. I don’t what to see this Bum anymore.
“Yet there he is on CNN Blah blah blah blah. This Jerk should be exiled like that prick Kevin Sipes was. I don’t what to see this Bum anymore. ”
Try this:
Earsell Mackbee
Why don’t I remember this guy?
Good article ..
“Why don’t I remember this guy? ”
You to?
Is it true?
That the ceiling for Medicare is being raised in this bill?
Cuts “savings” ( what a bunch of Bull. Its like Jobs saved )in Medicare? I just can’t believe I’m not hearing more about this? I guess it must not be true.
That this thing is mandatory medical insurance for all but NO penalty if you don’t have it. I could look up the word “mandatory” but I don’t think thats what it means.
But this cut for the “old people” I’d really like to see some discussion on that this morning on the Today Show.
Next these people will be having the old people drinking Nuclear waste like the Republicans suggested a few years back.
Hey Greg, great article from Noonan. A couple of comments:
1)”Americans are starting to think the problems we are facing cannot be solved”
This is big. Part of it, I feel, is rooted in the decades-long campaign to denigrate government in general and liberal government in particular. Problems are caused by government, certainly not solved by it, and we, the people, are not going to be able to solve them on our own-so then what? People see nothing but a slowly approaching cliff that we are headed over. The other part to this concerns my personal theory that we(Americans) are losing their capacity to function as a collective society. There is strength in numbers, but we feel increasingly isolated. Our Big Two political parties appear to represent themselves more and more, meaning they represent us less and less, and people feel powerless in the face of the “Machine”. There is a sense of fatalism in the political realm now, a sense of “what difference does it make if I vote”. Alexis de Tocqueville wrote of the American political “experient” back in the 1835 that the only thing that can kill this(American Democracy) is apathy. That is a real danger right now.
2)”When I see those in government, both locally and in Washington, spend and tax and come up each day with new ways to spend and tax—health care, cap and trade, etc.—I think: Why aren’t they worried about the impact of what they’re doing? Why do they think America is so strong it can take endless abuse?”
I find this attitude kinda amusing, in a sad sort of way, after the W years of borrow and spend. Even Ronnie raised taxes when he saw where his fiscal policies were headed, but there is no room for that now in this “taxes=bad” environment the neocons have created. Like most of America, the federal government has been on a debt binge, and the bills are still out there and it ain’t pretty. To whine at this point about taxes is, in a way, surreal. The party is over. Time to dig out, bummer though that may be.
“Why aren’t they worried about the impact of what they’re doing? Why do they think America is so strong it can take endless abuse?”
That’s the key. I don’t think she’s stating it to any particular party either ..
she’s going after ALL of them.
“I don’t think she’s stating it to any particular party either”
Really? I read that as a shot at O and the dems. Could be my liberal colored glasses though…
Wow, as I type this, it tells me I’m logged in as Downtown Dan, but this is actually Earsell Mackbee.
Tiny, given my screen name let me help you. Earsell was a fairly good cornerback on the 1st Vikings SuperBowl team. But the thing I still remember him for (and why I picked him for a screen name) was what happened one game when he was injured. Because he wasn’t playing, Earsell showed up on the sidelines wearing this purple crushed velvet suit, complete with matching big floppy hat. It was like he swiped it from Huggy Bear. You can imagined Bud Grant’s reaction to this. Within a few weeks, Earsell was put on waivers. Still one of my favorite Viking moments.
My Gramma was at the game. Likes to tell the story about how Grant bounced a player after he showed up on the sidelines dressed like a pimp. But I don’t think she remembers Earsell’s name.
Thanks for filling in the blanks.
“Really? I read that as a shot at O and the dems. Could be my liberal colored glasses though… ”
She focuses on the present and looks forward ..
smart, smart person.
While I don’t agree entirely with Peggy Noonan, I’ll say she can write circles around Katherine.
“I’ll say she can write circles around Katherine”
Big time. She’s kind of a rare breed in the national media-a moderate conservative.
“While I don’t agree entirely with Peggy Noonan, I’ll say she can write circles around Katherine. ”
I think it’s just a different style ..
and her arguments are presented well.
“1st Vikings SuperBowl team”
It was 1969 and Tiny was nine but thought he new all the players.
“player after he showed up on the sidelines dressed like a pimp”
It was 1969 and Tiny was nine and living in Buffalo and did not know what a pimp was
Anyhow I saw Earsell last night and he must be on that new Obamacare. Nonproductive and no cash on hand so he gets shipped off to die.
Really? I read that as a shot at O and the dems. Could be my liberal colored glasses though…
I read it as if she could have been specifically calling out my district’s congressman, a Republican.
There was a recent story on the local news about his reaction to a reporter from the station wanting to interview him on healthcare. He referred the reporter to his staff, who referred her to his press secretary, who referred her back to the staff, who referred her back to the press secretary, who then refused to return calls.
The reporter never got an interview with anyone.
He represents Florida, but lives in CA, and makes two or three visits to Florida
to make a statement.
The one time I wrote him, it was regarding the importation of certain consumer items. I got back a form letter outlining all he’s “doing” to combat illegal immigration.
Has it bred apathy if I feel like I can’t wait to do my part to vote the prick out?
Or am I just disheartened to the point that I no longer care if anyone can “make it better”, and just getting the people like this is good enough reason to continue voting?
“It was 1969 and Tiny was nine and living in Buffalo and did not know what a pimp was”
Privileaged up bringing ..
“Has it bred apathy if I feel like I can’t wait to do my part to vote the prick out?”
I’d say voter apathy isn’t an issue in this case.
My Gramma has strange issues with racial prejudice.
Always raised us not to be prejudiced.
Back when my mother was a child their primary care physician was the first black doctor in the state. Some of their friends were aghast at the notion but she and my Grampa really thought highly of the guy.
I go over to her place to watch the Vikings game every week and without fail at least once in the course of the game she’ll complain about how most of the players are black. She especially doesn’t like showboating behavior and likes it when players get fined or reprimanded for it, a la Earsell Mackbee.
Some sort of cultural difference thing that pops out of her now that she’s 92 and the social filters are deteriorating. Complains frequently about the idiosyncrasies of her Jewish neighbors too. I really don’t get where it’s coming from. Wouldn’t have said those kinds of things 25 years ago.
Complains frequently about the idiosyncrasies of her Jewish neighbors too.
So is my mother.
I’m curious as to what those idiosyncrasies are.
This should squeeze a few FRAUDs out of Tiny.
WASHINGTON – Internal investigations into the conduct of over two dozen House members were exposed in an extraordinary, Internet-era breach involving the secretive process by which Congress polices lawmaker ethics.
Revelations of the mostly preliminary inquiries by the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct — also known as the Ethics committee — and a panel that refers cases to it shook the chamber as lawmakers were immersed in a series of scheduled votes Thursday.
The panel announced that it was investigating two California Democrats — Reps. Maxine Waters and Laura Richardson — even as its embarrassed leaders took pains to explain that several other lawmakers’ names should not have been revealed and they may have done nothing wrong.
The committee said it was investigating whether Waters used her influence to help a bank in which her husband owned stock, and whether the couple benefited as a result. Separately, the panel is looking into whether Richardson failed to disclose required information on her financial disclosure forms and received special treatment from a lender.
Ethics chairwoman Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., went to the House floor to announce that a confidential weekly report of the committee from July had leaked out in a case of “cyber-hacking
……The Washington Post reported in its online edition Thursday that the document was disclosed on a publicly accessible computer network and made available to the newspaper by a source familiar with such networks.
The Post reported that more than 30 lawmakers and a few staff members were under scrutiny, including nearly half the members of the House Appropriations defense subcommittee.
The previously disclosed inquiry involves lawmakers who steered appropriations to clients of a now-defunct lobbying firm and received campaign contributions from the firm and its clients.
The names included three lawmakers previously identified in the inquiry: the chairman of the defense subcommittee, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; and Reps. Peter Visclosky, D-Ind., and James Moran, D-Va.
The Post said others whose names were in the report included Reps. Norm Dicks, D-Wash., Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, C.W. Bill Young, R-Fla., and Todd Tiahrt, R-Kan.
All those people in Earsell’s room weren’t family, they were actually a “Death Panel”.
One of the priviledges of old age is ya get to say whatever ya feel like, without any consequences. (Which must mean half the people on this blog are over 90). :)
“One of the priviledges of old age is ya get to say whatever ya feel like…”
Her language has gotten saltier with age too. One time recently I asked my Gramma what she thought of Katherine’s column and she said, “oh, she’s a bitch.”
You still can’t drop the F bomb in her presence though, oh no. that one is taboo.
She’s had a lot of Jewish friends in her life and is cordial with all her neighbors, but if she’s telling us about something silly one of them did, and they happen to be jewish, she has to mention that they are, as if that has something to do with their behavior. It’s weird. Minneapolis used to be a pretty anti-semitic town and she grew up here, so maybe its just vestiges of some early cultural imprint from her upbringing.
One of the priviledges of old age is ya get to say whatever ya feel like, without any consequences.
Farting anywhere and anytime you feel like it is another perk.
I’ve always liked tiny’s plan of shouting “Bullsh!t” at random intervals when he’s in the Home.
He hasn’t exctly waited ’til he’s in the Home, really.
I don’t think that was Tiny’s plan, more like tluck’s prediction.
I figure when I’m old I’ll strike up lots of random conversations with strangers, standing in line at the bank, that sort of thing.
I probably will fart a lot while I talk to them, too. I can’t imagine I’ll have much of a choice if I get to be 92.
I’ll also carry a pipe-snapper in my car and cut down parking meters whenever I see them where I think they shouldn’t be, like in front of the library.
I’m takin’ down every “No Turn on Red” sign in town, too.
“I probably will fart a lot while I talk to them, too. I can’t imagine I’ll have much of a choice if I get to be 92.”
I’m practicing ..
according to my wife.
“leland, if GLBT people had equality — true equality — sexuality wouldn’t consume so much of the lives of the rest of us GLBT people.”
Mr Fauvel, Perhaps you can enlighten me where GBLT people do not have equality under the law. I am sure there are many incidences of discrimination, but GBLT people have equal rights and equal protection under the law. Even in marriage.
There are no specific laws that I am aware of that prohibit GLBT people from marrying. There is gender discrimination in marriage, but no discrimination specifically aimed at GLBT people.
Gender discrimination under the law is real and pervasive. Gender discrimination has consequences for GLBT people, but with gender not sexual preference is where the discrimination lies.
Consider how the military discriminates regarding gender.
Look at some women volleyball players. Big, powerful, athletic people. 6ft 2 and 185 pounds. If they go into the military do they go to the front lines? NO! Some 5ft 4 inch 125 lb hispanic guy who can’t lift his rifle goes.
Everyone getting killed in Iraq and Afghanistan is male. Where is the equality? I want equality in the military, even some affirmative action. If soldiers have to get killed, I want to see some women get their asses shot off.
Everyone getting killed in Iraq and Afghanistan is male. Where is the equality? I want equality in the military, even some affirmative action. If soldiers have to get killed, I want to see some women get their asses shot off.
I don’t think you’re correct. Women have been serving in combat roles in Iraq.
I know for sure that women fighter pilots have been serving since the early 90s.
maybe the military should have a don’t ask/don’t tell policy for gender too.
Everyone gets the same haircut.
Okay, change that to ALMOST everyone.
Apologies for the crude remark about women’s asses. Women’s asses have been on my mind.
“Apologies for the crude remark about women’s asses. Women’s asses have been on my mind. ”
Better than having the a@@ of a dog or horse or a dude.
See, then you’d …
never mind.
House Leader Calls Health Bill “1,990 Pages Of Bureaucracy”:
This bill should be 20 pages long, not 2,000. Sounds like it’s also a gift to unions and trial lawyers.
“I’m practicing ..
according to my wife.”
It must be all that tofu and sprouts Greg.
“Everyone getting killed in Iraq and Afghanistan is male. Where is the equality? I want equality in the military, even some affirmative action. If soldiers have to get killed, I want to see some women get their asses shot off.”
leland8, my daughter-in-law served 4 years in the Marines. I have a picture of her standing in the middle of 4 warheads nose down in the “sandbox”. She’s a petite little thing and the warheads look bigger than she is.
leland8, lol, I read your 4:22 post after I posted my 5:27 post.
And……….why are women’s a$$es on your mind? Are you a dirty old man?
“8-hour spree: Packs of Mpls. robbers strike 4 times, rough up victims.”
Looks like Minneapolis could use a visit from Paul Kersey.
“He killed Giggles, man. Giggles.”
Chaz “Chastity” Bono finally feels the transition of becoming a man: ‘I shave about once a week now’
Greg, see my point? Even liberal “transgender” women aren’t very attractive.
I’m sure Obamacare will happily pay for sex change operations like this while government beurocrats will decide which people over the age of 65 is worthy of treatment, and which ones should report to “End Of Life Counciling”.
and which ones should report to “End Of Life Counciling”.
Do you have a problem with living wills? Got a problem with making sure your doctor and your family know what your end of life decisions are in the event you become incapacitated?
I think it’s reality that you have serious problems with.
D.T., quit feeding the troll!
“Got a problem with making sure your doctor and your family know what your end of life decisions…”
I have a problem with government making an end of life decision for you in the name of rationing, and don’t try to claim that isn’t happening under other soci@list government healthcare beurocracies D.T.
Evil, again your biggest issue is gay marriage, and you’re trying to imply that people who oppose gay marriage don’t like gay people and that’s not the case.
d2, while it is true that people can “like” gay people while opposing same-sex marriage, people who are educated about the issue cannot oppose civil same-sex marriage rights without acknowledging the damage same-sex couples face without the protections of marriage. Nor can they favor civil unions for same-sex couples, but marriage for opposite-sex couples, without acknowledging that they favor – at best – a “separate-but-equal” system. Because it can be proven that “separate-but-equal” is not equal, anyone knowledgeable about the issue must admit that by advocating such a system, they do not advocate equality.
Therefore, anyone knowledgeable about the issue who advocates either marriage rights for opposite-sex couples only or civil unions for same-sex couples only must admit to advocating either harmful discrimination or a system that treats couples unequally.
In neither case can such a person claim to really care about gay people. They can claim, at most, only patronization.
Even our ELCA church BEFORE the big vote encouraged homosexuals to be members and even allowed them to be Pastors as long as they weren’t practicing homosexuals.
In other words, they’d have to be celibate. One need not be married to be sexually active. The issue in your church isn’t marriage, it’s sex acts. Your church further validates my atheism.
By the way, should I refer to you as a “practicing heterosexual?”
Mr Fauvel, Perhaps you can enlighten me where GBLT people do not have equality under the law.
How about “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” leland?
In many states, it is still legal to fire someone from a job, or refuse to rent them an apartment, just for being gay. I suppose that, in these states, one could fire someone just for being straight, but that’s not the way it happens.
There are no specific laws that I am aware of that prohibit GLBT people from marrying. There is gender discrimination in marriage, but no discrimination specifically aimed at GLBT people.
While technically true, the effect of the law is to discriminate against GLBT people. That’s pretty much what the Iowa Supreme Court said when it legalized same-sex marriage in Iowa. I refer you to their decision. It’s a great read.
I have a problem with government making an end of life decision for you in the name of rationing, and don’t try to claim that isn’t happening under other soci@list government healthcare beurocracies D.T.
You’ve got a serious comprehension problem. The provision you’re referring to was to help people pay for counseling sessions with doctors, not to male any decisions for them. But you’d sooner take that away from poor elderly people. God, you are a moron.
And as too rationing, what do you think 47 million going without health insurance is? WTF do you think rescission is? It’s private insurers RATIONING care so it doesn’t eat into their bloated profit margins. We pay multiples times more and have exponentially worse outcomes than the rest of the industrialized world.
Oh, but sheiks enjoy our 5 star hospitals, so everything must be okay in D2 Wonderland.
I hope you’re not using our socialized medicine (Medicare).
I figure when I’m old I’ll strike up lots of random conversations with strangers, standing in line at the bank, that sort of thing.
And you have to talk abnormally loud.
I think it’s reality that you have serious problems with.
What’s so great about reality?
You’ve got a serious comprehension problem.
Dan, it sounds like you are letting D2 get under your skin. If you’re going to get upset at D2 spreading misinformation and giving uninformed opinions, you’re going to need a bottle of whiskey and a pack of smokes. It’s not worth the effort.
What’s so great about reality?
That depends on whose reality you’re talking about!
you’re going to need a bottle of whiskey
I’ll take it!
“…you’re going to need a bottle of whiskey and a pack of smokes”
That’s very unhealthy ..
which means that the cause is probably unhealthy as well.
I don’t think that was Tiny’s plan, more like tluck’s prediction.
Can’t take credit for that one Vomit.
That was a Tinyco original. I’ve referenced it, and plan to plagerize it while flirting with the the hot aides.
My Gramma has strange issues with racial prejudice.
Mine did too DAR. It threw me for a loop one day when a friend and I were talking about some people we knew who had done somethng stupid while she was in earshot. Out of the blue she said “were they n!ggers”.
Once we picked our jaws off the floor we assured her they weren’t but this was so out of character for her I asked my Dad (it was his Mother) about it.
He told me that I needed to remember that she grew up in a different time. He told me a story about how when he was a kid in the late 30’s, they didn’t have phones (land lines). So if you wanted a friend to come out and play you stood in front of his house and yelled to them to come out.
One of his best friends was an Italian kid. They would stand outside his house and yell “HEY WOP” lets play ball. When the kids would come to his house they’d yell “HEY MICK”.
Didn’t mean anything deragatory to them.
I find this attitude kinda amusing, in a sad sort of way, after the W years of borrow and spend. Even Ronnie raised taxes when he saw where his fiscal policies were headed, but there is no room for that now in this “taxes=bad” environment the neocons have created. Like most of America, the federal government has been on a debt binge, and the bills are still out there and it ain’t pretty. To whine at this point about taxes is, in a way, surreal. The party is over. Time to dig out, bummer though that may be.
Monty,
I agree with both you and Noonan. It is time to dig out, actually well past time. But it seems the children in charge can’t talk about anything serious other than ways to buy votes.
How’s this for a radical idea.
A line on the every type of 1040 that says “pay off your share of the debt”$__________.
It would probably be fillibustered.
“Dan, it sounds like you are letting D2 get under your skin”
Good point D.J. Dan realizes there is truth in what I say, he doesn’t like to hear it, and it frustrates him.
When I hear leftist spew coming out of some of these guys, I realize it’s a bunch a liberal crap and I just laugh at it.
“The issue in your church isn’t marriage, it’s sex acts. Your church further validates my atheism.”
The Bible clearly states that homosexual behavior is wrong, so why would any Christian church endorse gay marriage?
Again, my ELCA church congregation is having a vote in a week on whether or not we should pull out of the ELCA for it’s recent radical policy of going against the Bible and endorcing gay marriage. If the vote is no, the entire staff and probably half of the congregation will be leaving, but I really can’t see that happening. Now maybe if the Church was in Keith Hakim Ellison’s liberal 5th district instead of the 6th….
“By the way, should I refer to you as a “practicing heterosexual?”"
Sure, no problem.
Proverbs 11:29:
‘He who brings trouble on his family will inherit only wind, and the fool will be servant to the wise.’
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKj07bDj2kA&feature=fvw
Old clip, but so applicable during these times ..
That Brady character reminds me of someone ..
The Bible clearly states that homosexual behavior is wrong, so why would any Christian church endorse gay marriage?
You’re not wearing mixed fibers, are you?
Good point D.J. Dan realizes there is truth in what I say, he doesn’t like to hear it, and it frustrates him.
There is zero truth to anything you say. Z-E-R-O. Ever. It frustrates me that someone as dense as you, someone so consistently proven wrong as you, someone claiming to be a Christian, is wasting perfectly good oxygen.
Sometimes I swear you’re just a parody construct to make the Right look like idiots. If so, you’re doing a flawless job. Carry on.
“You’re not wearing mixed fibers, are you?”
Typical liberal. Just because you don’t understand why they followed certain practices in the Bible, you want to invalidate the whole thing.
“There is zero truth to anything you say”
Give me even ONE example.
Somali Pirates behaving like liberal environmentalist wacko’s:
Just because you don’t understand why they followed certain practices in the Bible, you want to invalidate the whole thing.
Just because you don’t understand why they followed certain practices in the Bible, you feel the right to pick and choose which parts are valid and which parts you can conveniently ignore.
Typical Cafeteria Christian.
Give me even ONE example.
You must have missed this: “The provision you’re referring to was to help people pay for counseling sessions with doctors, not to make any decisions for them.”
If you disagree then show us the clear language in the bill that states otherwise.
Somali Pirates behaving like..
Got anything from a real news source?
People you never argue with:
1) Women with PMS
2) Small children
3) Liberals
4) Drunks
5) Redskin Fans
6) extremists
7)Transgendered heterosexual male lesbians
8) Police
9) Judge Judy
10) Customers
“The provision you’re referring to was to help people pay for counseling sessions with doctors, not to make any decisions for them.”
Check page 1932, section 12b.
11) Islamists
“11) Islamists ”
correct, you just
a) jail
b) deport
c) put in a zoo
12) Religious extremists
12)d2 All you are doing is feeding the troll
13)a naked lady-if you’re a man, that is
14)the business end of a loaded, unlocked firearm
“correct, you just
a) jail
b) deport
c) put in a zoo”
Or in Obama’s case, bring back to the United States so they can have access to American trial lawyers at taxpayers expense, then release them to prey on the American public.
Hey, hey! You can’t have two #12’s.
“Check page 1932, section 12b. ”
Doesn’t exist.
Interestingly enough ..
page 1932 deals with mental health issues.
“13)a naked lady-if you’re a man, that is”
Unless she’s an unattractive liberal woman like Rosie O’Donnel. But then again:
a) She’s no Lady
b) Refer to rule #3
“Hey, hey! You can’t have two #12’s”
What? They both refer to the same thing….er….person. Think of them as 12a and 12b.
“page 1932 deals with mental health issues.”
I was just joking Liberal Greg, making fun of the size of this bill!
You’d have to have mental health issues to buy into this soci@list nightmare of a beurocracy.
Don’t you just love it when people spread misinformation just to get their way ..
gotta wonder how they teach their kids the difference between telling the truth and lying.
Not liking something is one thing, but trying to make others not like it by telling them lies about it is disgusting.
Think of them as 12a and 12b.
I’ll take a #13, 36CC
Good point D.J. Dan realizes there is truth in what I say, he doesn’t like to hear it, and it frustrates him.
HAHAHAHA!!! Now that’s funny!!
I was just joking Liberal Greg, making fun of the size of this bill!
Hilarious. So now that your little joke is out of the way, I think Dan is still waiting for a real answer to his question.
Sometimes I swear you’re just a parody construct to make the Right look like idiots. If so, you’re doing a flawless job.
Finally something we can agree on!
I’ve been saying that for years.
“I’ve been saying that for years. ”
You’re in a majority ..
“So now that your little joke is out of the way”
OK, besides not seeing the humor in the massive government healthcare takeover scheme, where else do you liberals have a problem with the accuracy of my comments?
Troll ..
You said they were starting death panels blah, blah, blah ..
you have NO proof and you post a lie to cover it.
So show us the proof of this ..
PROOF .. not some jibberish . . IN THE BILL .. PROOF ..
How could the liberals over at BQ ever claim the Katherine’s blog was made up of right wingers? That’s B.S.
“Troll ..
You said they were starting death panels blah, blah, blah .. ”
No I didn’t Greg, but I do believe that is what will happen under ObamaCare.
“I have a problem with government making an end of life decision for you in the name of rationing, and don’t try to claim that isn’t happening under other soci@list government healthcare beurocracies D.T. ”
That’s your post from 10/30/09 @ 6:57 pm.
Now, what’s your next lie.
The Bible clearly states that homosexual behavior is wrong, so why would any Christian church endorse gay marriage?
d2, if you don’t know by now that I don’t give a rat’s ass about either what someone claims your bible says or how any religious institution wants to “define marriage” within its walls, then you’ve not been paying attention. I’m talking about civil marriage, d2. C I V I L marriage. Not religious marriage. You know, the state-issued marriage license that you have to purchase at the county courthouse.
If your church wants to secede from our galaxy, go for it. I honestly couldn’t care less.
Just because you don’t understand why they followed certain practices in the Bible, you want to invalidate the whole thing.
Well, d2, I certainly cannot claim to be a bible scholar, but doesn’t one of the passages supposedly condemning homosexuality come from Leviticus? And doesn’t the mixed-fiber clothing prohibition also come from Leviticus? I’d wager that there are a lot of Leviticus laws that you ignore.
What makes you so sure that the “certain practices” of biblical times which you claim are overlooked today excludes homosexuality? You could be wrong, d2; wouldn’t that mean you’re going to hell?
In one of his Dark Tower books, Stephen King made a reference to “Leviticracks.” Just one more reason I love reading Stephen King!
d2, I too want to see your proof for your 6:57 p.m. comment of 10/30/2009.
Liberal Greg,
I didn’t lie anywhere. Look at my comment again.
Blatant liar..
My God .. how in the hell are you allowed to be around children?
You know DAMN well that’s what you meant so don’t try to get around it.
SHOW THE PROOF or admit you’re lying ..
AGAIN.
Liberal Greg, quit lying about me being a liar!
“My God .. how in the hell are you allowed to be around children?
You know DAMN well that’s what you meant so don’t try to get around it.
SHOW THE PROOF or admit you’re lying ..”
With all the dramatics, it would seem that liberal Greg has just been part of a Jim Carrey Movie Marathon.
So obviously there is no proof and once again we watch as the Troll attempts to change course ….
lying piece of sh!t.
So obviously there is no proof and once again we watch as the Troll attempts to change course ….
Actually there’s tons of proof. The fact that he won’t post it confirms he’s a Troll.
Liberal Greg,
I stand by my claim. If government takes over out healthcare system, we will have higher costs, long lines, and yes, rationing (which means death panels).
I was listening to a guy from the U.K. a couple weeks ago on the Chris Baker radio progrum (KTLK 100.3 FM), and he told us of his 50+ year old father in severe pain who doctors told him he needed both knees replaced ASAP, but government beurocrats determined he was TOO YOUNG. Government rationing suggested he should wait until he was older, so that ONE surgery would be all that was needed during this man’s lifetime.
Is that the same Horsesh|t care you want for American’s Liberal Greg?
t ..
you’d never put something out if there wasn’t anything to it ..
but this ‘death panel’ stuff?
I don’t think I’ve seen anything credible.
If there is, would you pass it on?
You know I only get part of it so the shorter the better?
but this ‘death panel’ stuff?
Stupid sh!t for a sound bite society.
I don’t think I’ve seen anything credible.
Isn’t the fact they feel the need to fund “end of life counseling” telling enough?
“sn’t the fact they feel the need to fund “end of life counseling” telling enough? ”
I’m not getting that from anything. It seems like it’s just encouraging people to get their affairs in order … which makes sense.
Think about the people who get in fights about what to do about someone who’s brain dead?
where else do you liberals have a problem with the accuracy of my comments?
You f-ing ADMITTED that you made it up.
I’m going with parody. Nicely played.
OK, besides not seeing the humor in the massive government healthcare takeover scheme, where else do you liberals have a problem with the accuracy of my comments?
I got the humor. If you had meant the original post as a joke, then I might have got a chuckle out of it. If Downtown Dan had written that post, I would have found it humorous because it would obviously have been a joke.
Secondly, I’m not especially liberal. I tend to be more conservative. There is a difference between “liberal” and “not believing everything Rush tells you”. I like to think I’m somewhere in the middle of that.
No I didn’t Greg, but I do believe that is what will happen under ObamaCare.
Here’s your post: I have a problem with government making an end of life decision for you in the name of rationing
That implies that you believe “Obamacare” will result in death panels. And even later, as I just quoted, you wrote “I do believe that is what will happen under ObamaCare.”
So, now that the facts show us that you do believe that, help us to understand why you believe that. If you’re going to point to the guy from the U.K. who didn’t get his knee replacements, then you have to show us proof that Obama & Friends are mimicking the U.K.’s health care system. Otherwise that is simply an irrelevant post and we will discard it as such.
Unless you can follow these stipulations, we will no longer consider you a credible source (I hope everyone appreciates the humor there).
IALTO.
under osamascare, you will have to be a registered s@ci@listi will proof of voting for the beloved leader and his minions to get so much as an aspiran
youll probably wind up having to be branded
“DETROIT — Hundreds of people offered hushed prayers Saturday at the funeral for a slain Detroit mosque leader ”
“The FBI says Abdullah, 53, was fatally shot inside a suburban warehouse Wednesday after firing at agents and resisting arrest. ”
“Luqman Ameen Abdullah was remembered as a caring man who followed the tenets of his Islam faith as an imam, or prayer leader, “
“That implies that you believe “Obamacare” will result in death panels.”
ObamaCare will result in rationing just like soci@lized medicine always does, which will result in government beurocrats deciding which people are worthy of treatment, and which ones aren’t. Sounds like death panels to me D.J., what term would you give it?.
“DETROIT — Hundreds of people offered hushed prayers Saturday at the funeral for a slain Detroit mosque leader ”
“The FBI says Abdullah, 53, was fatally shot inside a suburban warehouse Wednesday after firing at agents and resisting arrest. ”
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“HAMTRAMCK, Mich. _ A festering controversy over a plan to allow mosques to publicly broadcast their call to prayer over loudspeakers erupted into an ugly confrontation Tuesday evening in this old Polish enclave surrounded by Detroit.
About 80 people _ Muslims and Christians _ jammed the second floor chambers of the Hamtramck City Council to air their differences over a proposal that would amend the city’s noise ordinance and clear the way for the amplified Arabic chant, five times a day.
The hearing promptly degenerated into noisy … ”
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Don’t you just love liberal multiculturalism? Why can’t we learn from the mistakes made in places like London, Amsterdam, Paris, and Madrid?
“WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama is making a last-minute campaign appearance for liberal New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine’s re-election bid.
Obama’s scheduled to appear Sunday at a pair of rallies for the only incumbent governor seeking re-election. Just one of two governors’ offices on the ballot for Tuesday’s elections, the White House is aware Democratic losses would be spun as a referendum on Obama.
The results could also foreshadow next year’s elections, when 37 governorships come up for grabs.
The president plans to appear with Corzine at two New Jersey campaign stops, in Camden and Newark, before returning to the White House.
Meanwhile, another new poll finds Corzine and Republican challenger Chris Christie running nearly even in the race.
The Monmouth University/Gannett New Jersey Poll released Sunday finds Christie backed by 43 percent of likely voters, while the incumbent Democrat is supported by 42 percent.
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Even though Christie is favored (which is very good news for America), just watch. I think ACORN will find a way to pull out a close election for the liberal democrat, just like they did for liberal Al Franken.
i pledge allegiance to the flag
and the united s@ci@st states of amerika, and to the collective for which it stands,
one nation under barry,
with social security and health care for all,
praise him
I think ACORN will find a way to pull out a close election for the liberal democrat, just like they did for liberal Al Franken.
Here… we’ll try this one. Can you show any proof that ACORN gave Franken the win?
“On February 10, 2005, Nonaresa Montgomery, a paid worker who ran Operation Big Vote during the run-up to the 2001 mayoral primary, was found guilty of vote fraud. Montgomery hired about 30 workers to do fraudulent voter-registration canvassing. Instead of knocking on doors, the volunteers sat at a St. Louis fast food restaurant and wrote out names and information from an outdated voter list. About 1,500 fraudulent voter registration cards were turned in.”
In October 2006, St. Louis election officials discovered at least 1,492 “potentially fraudulent” voter registration cards. They were all turned in by ACORN volunteers.
In November 2006, 20,000 to 35,000 questionable voter registration forms were turned in by ACORN officials in Missouri. Most all of these were from St. Louis and Kansas City areas,
In 2007, in Kansas City, Missouri, four ACORN employees were indicted for fraud. In April of this year eight ACORN employees in St. Louis city and county pleaded guilty to federal election fraud for submitting bogus voter registrations.
North Carolina — State Board of Elections officials have found at least 100 voter registration forms with the same names over and over again. The forms were turned in by ACORN.
Ohio — The New York Post reported that a Cleveland man said he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times.
Indiana — More than 2,000 voter registration forms filed in northern Indiana’s Lake County filled out by ACORN employees turned out to be bogus. Officials also stopped processing a stack of about 5,000 applications delivered just before the October 6 registration deadline after the first 2,100 turned out to be phony.
“youll probably wind up having to be branded ”
and be a fan of any team that’s playing stevek (the lesbian traped in a mans body) favorite team which I forget (probably on purpose) but know they are usually in the gutter.
Connecticut — Officials are looking into a complaint alleging ACORN submitted fraudulent voter registration cards in Bridgeport. In one instance, an official said a card was filled out for a 7-year-old girl, whose age was listed as 27. 8,000 cards were submitted in Bridgeport.
Missouri — The Kansas City election board is reporting 100 duplicate applications and 280 with fake information. Acorn officials agreed that at least 4% of their registrations were bogus. Governor Matt Blunt condemned the attempts by ACORN to commit voter fraud.
Pennsylvania — Officials are investigating suspicious or incomplete registration forms submitted by ACORN. 252,595 voter registrations were submitted in Philadelphia. Remarkably, 57,435 were rejected — most of them submitted by ACORN.
Wisconsin — In Milwaukee ACORN improperly used felons as registration workers. Additionally, its workers are among 49 cases of bad registrations sent to authorities for possible charges, as first reported by the Journal Sentinel.
lorida — The Pinellas County Elections supervisor says his office has received around 35 voter registrations that appear to be bogus. There is also a question of 30,000 felons who are registered illegally to vote. Their connections with ACORN are not yet clea
Texas — Of the 30,000 registration cards ACORN turned in, Harris County tax assessor Paul Bettencourt says just more than 20,000 are valid. And just look at some of the places ACORN was finding those voters. A church just next door is the address for around 150 people. More than 250 people claim a homeless outreach center as their home address. Some listed a county mental health facility as their home and one person even wrote down the Harris County jail at the sheriff’s office.
Michigan — ACORN in Detroit is being investigated after several municipal clerks reported fraudulent and duplicate voter registration applications coming through. The clerk interviewed said the fraud appears to be widespread.
New Mexico – The Bernalillo County clerk has notified prosecutors that some 1,100 fraudulent voter registration cards were turned in by ACORN.
but im sure they were just honest isolated mistakes.
“and be a fan of any team that’s playing stevek (the lesbian traped in a mans body) favorite team which I forget (probably on purpose) but know they are usually in the gutter. ”
we in the THML community are , forgive the expression, hardcore EAGLES FANS E-A-G-L-E-S …
“Unless you can follow these stipulations, we will no longer consider you a credible source (I hope everyone appreciates the humor there).”
“Here… we’ll try this one. Can you show any proof that ACORN gave Franken the win? ”
DJ is funny today ..
Steve-O. Good morning. First off, I’m not an ACORN apologist. There are way too many cases of voter fraud for me to feel comfortable with the company. But cases in various states doesn’t mean that it happens in every state. I was looking for evidence that ACORN influenced (illegally) the Franken win.
Don’t forget that the YouTube video of a “pimp” getting advice from ACORN on how to do all kinds of illegal things was attempted in several places before they actually got someone who helped them.
I’m watching Rush Limbaugh on Fox this morning and something occured to me ..
we don’t have candidates running any longer ..
we have misinformation pie holes telling us what we should do.
That’s very sad ..
DJ is funny today ..
I haven’t gone to bed yet. Got off work at 6. Drank 4 beers and I’m feeling them more than I should. About to go to bed so I can get up in time for the Vikes game… GOOD NIGHT!
“Don’t forget that the YouTube video of a “pimp” getting advice from ACORN on how to do all kinds of illegal things was attempted in several places before they actually got someone who helped them.”
Didn’t know that ..
Another point ..
did all those illegal votes apply only to democratic candidates?
You know what’s annoying? Now the clock on here is an hour fast. And we all know the Strip people never fix the clocks on their blogs…
did all those illegal votes apply only to democratic candidates?
Damn… that’s what I was going to say, but then I forgot. I feel like Greg…
:) IALTO!!
“we have misinformation pie holes telling us what we should do.”
Like Obama telling us we should believe him when he says his idiotic policies are pulling us out of the recession when we know that’s a bunch of liberal crap.
D2, you must have missed my previous post which must be why you didn’t respond to it. I’ll be helpful and repost it.
Can you show any proof that ACORN gave Franken the win?
You’re welcome.
“did all those illegal votes apply only to democratic candidates?”
It’s possible that some of the ACORN morons could have picked a Republican by mistake, but the vast majority go to the democrat soci@list party in hopes of more redistribution of wealth.
“But cases in various states doesn’t mean that it happens in every state. I was looking for evidence that ACORN influenced (illegally) the Franken win.”
perhaps not, but it makes it very easy for me to listen to claims that they did.
“Don’t forget that the YouTube video of a “pimp” getting advice from ACORN on how to do all kinds of illegal things was attempted in several places before they actually got someone who helped them. ”
k , ill take that on faith, but it seems since then, they found another 5 or 6 that would.
“did all those illegal votes apply only to democratic candidates? ”
100% ?? prob not. but i believe prob over 90%. Acorn certainly is known for being an organization with a far left idealogy. also, you prob find far more “democrats” than republicans in the inner city, soup kitchens and homeless shelters.
“Can you show any proof that ACORN gave Franken the win?”
Minnesota has the most liberal voting policy in the country, designed to allow groups like ACORN to pull their shenanigans with little chance of getting caught. Why do you think radical leftist Keith Hakim Ellison (DFL) is pushing to ban the use of photo ID’s at the polls nationwide? Do you like how virtually anyone can vote in Minnesota whether or not thay are an American citizen as long as they have an ACORN goon vouch for them? Do you like the fact that close elections in Minnesota could be decided by non-citizens and illegal alien foreigners D.J.?
Sweet dreams D.J.
“You know what’s annoying? Now the clock on here is an hour fast.”
good, the time is now set properly for me and the rest of us that live in the proper time zone.
“It’s possible that some of the ACORN morons..”
Proof he’s much like those he loathes.
“Stimulus contributed to nearly 50,000 jobs in Florida, officials say”
great and they probably only cost $1 million each
“Proof he’s much like those he loathes.”
I’m for honest elections Greg. ACORN’s main goal is to get the soci@list in power at any cost, including vote fraud.
well dear blog friends, i have to start my honey-do list and go clean the pool. before i go id like to ask that each one of you, believers, atheista , agnostics, and yes even muslims, take a moment out of your day ( before 1:00 pm) and say a litle prayer asking god to favor the eagles as they battle the heathen ny giants. thank you all , in advance
I’ll pull for the Eagles Steve, especially since I can’t stand the N.Y. Giants.
I read that radical Imam story you referred to, and this Islamists group is trying to set up an “Islamic State” within the United States. It doesn’t get much more anti-American than that.
Why do ship these radicals over here? They should all be deported, whether they were born in the U.S. or not. Too bad Obama is taking us in the opposite and dangerous direction by importingh even more radicals to the U.S. with his closing of Club Gitmo.
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“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
Every American citizen needs to read this!
I bet Detroit will become an even more dangerous place to be now, with the Islamist’s seeking revenge for the loss of their radical anti-American leader.
““Stimulus contributed to nearly 50,000 jobs in Florida, officials say”
great and they probably only cost $1 million each”
I wonder how many of these jobs are government union jobs which create no wealth, but permanently raise the tax burden?.
but im sure they were just honest isolated mistakes.
I’m sure those 1,500 faked names all showed up at the polls to vote.
I’m also sure the people doing the fake names weren’t doing it to pad their time cards, they had schemes to also create 1,500 fake people to turn out. I understand Mickey Mouse was 18 of them.
it seems there has been a rash of arsons in little liberalville. it turns out the homes of the only 10 conservatives in town have been torched. the police chief, annie apologenta has announced 19 yr old sammy soci@listaenquez has been caught torching 9 of the homes. the whole town, sans the 10 conservatives, erupted in outrage when it was suggested by one of the unfortunate homeowners that sammy also burned down the 10th house. “theres no proof” the furious townpeople yelled. “its an outrage, its racism, its intoleerance”, they screamed as they picked up their pitch forks and torches and went forth to hunt down the insensitive conservatives down.
Eagles 40 heathen NY Giants 17. There is joy in conservativeland.
“Eagles 40 heathen NY Giants 17. There is joy in conservativeland. ”
it was only made possible by all there earnest prayers of all my blog friends.
You’re welcome.
The Vikings looked great again today as well!
I’m not getting that from anything. It seems like it’s just encouraging people to get their affairs in order … which makes sense.
Which I agree is a great idea. But isn’t that something we should all,…. just do?
Why do we need the nanny?
Rationing exists now with private plans. But at least their is some recourse in the courts, if it gets out of hand. Not sure if that’s going to be available if once this is all said and done. Because what the children tell us, and what actually passes, are usually two completely different things.
Why do we need the nanny?
It was to help offset the cost of having the formal counseling session with a doctor to those who would have trouble affording it.
Having recently been through this with a family member who actually had two living wills (because they were afraid the first wasn’t clear enough) and watching everyone still end up fighting bitterly over their living will’s terminology (”What exactly does ‘no reasonable chance of significant improvement’ mean’, or define exactly what ‘invasive’ treatment is when it stated NO invasive treatments) exposed why these counseling sessions are so important, and why it’s important to have a medical professional present at them to make sure everyone understands what it all means before death bed family feuds erupt.
It was to help offset the cost of having the formal counseling session with a doctor to those who would have trouble affording it.
So why do I need to pay for for that? Just because your family member had a very severe “failure to communicate” moment, doesn’t make it my problem.
“So why do I need to pay for for that?”
I agree with you .. however
” Just because your family member had a very severe “failure to communicate” moment, doesn’t make it my problem.”
Lawyers can fight just about anything and will. There’s also the religious belief aspect which can draw ’support’ to challenge.
Some people have NO idea why a will is important (considere when you were in your 20’s or maybe 30’s?).
I’d just guess it costs alot to keep someone on life support which in-turn takes a toll on health care costs.
How many people want to be on life support?
Maybe a doc doing the outline for the person makes sure it’s clear in a medical way what should happen and stops any lawsuits etc.
There’s a way I wanted to write this but it just isn’t happening ..
So why do I need to pay for for that?
Penny wise and pound foolish.
Which is probably cheaper, having “you” (through Medicare) subsidize a poor person’s living will session with a doctor, or “you” subsidizing that same person spending a year (or more) of living in a coma on a ventilator?
I’ll give you time to think about it.
” Just because your family member had a very severe “failure to communicate” moment, doesn’t make it my problem.”
And there was no “failure to communicate,” prick. The person was very clear, and made TWO living wills to make sure they were understood. But when a family member is dying (and has dementia at the time) siblings can, and will (through their lawyers) parse meanings that they want to read into anything to save a parent (read; prolong their death). Did you not understand my examples above? If there’s a failure to communicate it’s your failure to understand that lawyers can fight over the meaning of words you might think are very clear.
There’s a way I wanted to write this but it just isn’t happening ..
You did fine.
“How many people want to be on life support?”
I know I don’t, not if there’s not a chance of me getting better.
It’s occurred to me that some who oppose these end-of-life consults and spread the “death panel” allegations aren’t really concerned about rationing or people being denied end-of-life care that they want. Rather, they can’t stand the thought of someone using public funds to get the advice on how to make their own end-of-life decision which might include a DNR order, living will etc. They oppose it even though it would save the public money in the long run more importantly even if those are the kind of driectives many of us want for ourselves. They regard that lingering death on a respirator to be compulsory. Some sort of religious belief.
Why do we need the nanny?
This is based on the premise that a bunch of siblings with lawyers will be fighting over the will of someone who doesn’t have a pot to piss in in the first place.
If they want to fight over a 13″ TV and a half finished bottle of Maddog 20/20, I say fvck em, let em do it on their own.
mt ..
I’m thinking it’s more like DAR is saying… not property, but how someone wants to be cared for or not cared for.
Why did you bring up Maddog ..
and why in the hell do I remember that of all things.
Ugh ..
This is based on the premise that a bunch of siblings with lawyers will be fighting over the will of someone who doesn’t have a pot to piss in in the first place.
Or more likely one sibling’s guilt complex for not spending enough time with the parent tells the doctors to sustain the parent by all means available, and the other wants to follow their parent’s end of life wishes.
After these kinds of things there’s often nothing left of the estate after the system is done with them, insurance or not.
Why did you bring up Maddog ..
Because D2 brought up this…..again.
A bottle of Maddog might make it seem fresh.
Just because you don’t understand why they followed certain practices in the Bible, you want to invalidate the whole thing.
D2, if you and your fellow churchgoers are so sure of everything in the bible, why do you even bother going to church to study it?
“D2, if you and your fellow churchgoers are so sure of everything in the bible, why do you even bother going to church to study it?”
Caution! Troll feeding zone! Prepare for what comes out the other end!
“D2, if you and your fellow churchgoers are so sure of everything in the bible…..”
One thing All true Christians know for certain is that the Bible frowns on homosexual behavior, therefore gay marriage as well.
Chris Christie’s Next Case: Who Stole My Election?
Absentee voter fraud may play a significant role in New Jersey’s gubernatorial election.
h**p://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703932904574511612622116146.html
I knew this was coming!
One thing All true Christians know for certain is…
Anyone who thinks “All true Christians” know anything for certain is not a true Christian.
h**p://online.wsj.com/article
Byline: By John Fund.
‘Nuf said.
Yah L.G., only stupid people believe in God, like Albert Einstein.
“Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.” —Albert Einstein
“Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.” —Albert Einstein
Exactly! The Taliban (or Tollybahn as B. Hussein Obama calls them) is a great example. They destroyed ancient pyramids because they thought it competed with Islam.
Michele Bachmann was on Glenn Beck’s show today (as well as Sean Hannity)
www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/32659/
There is hope for America as long as we have Patriots like Michele Bachmann representing us in Washington.
(That’s right L.G., she’s a Patriot!)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TAskp6q6h8&NR=1
More proof of ObamaCare “Death Panels” Greg. Is that really what you want?
I have a headache.
They destroyed ancient pyramids because they thought it competed with Islam.
Biggest. Idiot. EVER.
It was giant statues they destroyed, not pyramids, and it was because they don’t allow for “graven” images (just like many Christian sects, i.e. Jehovah’s witnesses), not because it had anything to do with science. (How do you manage to even feed yourself???)
Now if you want to talk about religion and anti-science, I’m not sure you could top our own Christian Right.
“It was giant statues they destroyed, not pyramids”
Either way D.T., it was a piece of ancient history they destroyed in the name of Islam, and the world can never get it back.
And how stupid do you think these people are to be spooked by ancient statues? I guess inbreeding which is very common in the Muslim world must have hit members of the Tollybahn especially hard.
More proof of ObamaCare “Death Panels” Greg. Is that really what you want?
Because Sean Hannity held up a piece of paper that said DEATH PANEL on it? Link to where it actually says in the legistlation what a “death panel” is and how it’s applied.
And not another of your made up lies like last time. An actual link to the actual language. And not to some blow-dried Con windbag saying “oh, it’s in there” like just now.
Show us the language. Put up or shut up.
And how stupid do you think these people are to be spooked by ancient statues?
You’re the one too stupid to know what they were blowing up and why.
But who needs facts when you can just make up what you want, when you want it.
Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck are most likely closet homosexual fascists.
Sorry to hear of the headache leland8.
The world will also never get back that ancient giant statue of the Indian that stood in front of the old Thunderbird Hotel in Bloomington Minnesota. No one ever says anything about that.
Thank you for your concern, Greg.
Either way D.T., it was a piece of ..
No “Either way.” You don’t know what you’re talking about. You don’t know what it was or why they did it. You just keep making sh!t up as you go along. Just stop.
Greg, I clicked on your link to the definition of moron. Do you think that my friend Mr dare2 is really between 7 and 12 years old?
“You’re the one too stupid to know what they were blowing up and why.”
These people aren’t the brightest bulbs on the tree, face it D.T., and marrying relatives is a big part of it, much like how how Saddam Hussein’s two lunatic sons were products of 1st cousin marriage, again very common in the Muslim world.
leland8 says:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Okay, change that to ALMOST everyone.
Apologies for the crude remark about women’s asses. Women’s asses have been on my mind.
______________________________________
I have had a terrible headache ever since they began to be on my mind. They are still on my mind and my headache is awful. I can’t get them off my mind. What should I do?
“The world will also never get back that ancient giant statue of the Indian that stood in front of the old Thunderbird Hotel in Bloomington Minnesota.”
It’s “Native American”, not “Indian” Leland, you insensitive bastard!
Speaking of Saddam, his statue was also torn down. I think Stalin’s statue was torn down some years ago. Statues have been going through a difficult period.
He was an “indian” when they built him and a “Native American” when they tore him down. Considering those facts, I am not a full blooded “insensitive bastard”. I am a half-breed. Can I say half-breed?
“Women’s asses have been on my mind.”
You sound perfectly healthy Leland.
“Greg, I clicked on your link to the definition of moron. Do you think that my friend Mr dare2 is really between 7 and 12 years old? ”
Intellectually ..
no.
Physically ..
I’d rather not think about it.
“Can I say half-breed?”
You can probably get away with that, the liberal extremist mother of transexual Chastity “Chaz” Bono had a hit song with that title.
“I have had a terrible headache ever since they began to be on my mind. They are still on my mind and my headache is awful. I can’t get them off my mind. What should I do?
”
Perhaps they are large asses and they are in a position to suffocate you.
Try drinking water to increase the oxygen in your blodd?
““Greg, I clicked on your link to the definition of moron. Do you think that my friend Mr dare2 is really between 7 and 12 years old? ”
Intellectually ..
no.”
I should add it’s most likely between 3 and 5 years of age.
Greg, They are suffocating me and weighing heavily on my mind.
1 SEC. 240. DISSEMINATION OF ADVANCE CARE PLANNING
2 INFORMATION.
3 (a) IN GENERAL.—The QHBP offering entity —
4 (1) shall provide for the dissemination of infor5
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6 seeking enrollment in Exchange-participating health
7 benefits plans offered through the Exchange;
8 (2) shall present such individuals with—
9 (A) the option to establish advanced direc10
tives and physician’s orders for life sustaining
11 treatment according to the laws of the State in
12 which the individual resides; and
13 (B) information related to other planning
14 tools; and
15 (3) shall not promote suicide, assisted suicide,
16 euthanasia, or mercy killing.
17 The information presented under paragraph (2) shall not
18 presume the withdrawal of treatment and shall include
19 end-of-life planning information that includes options to
20 maintain all or most medical interventions.
21 (b) CONSTRUCTION.— Nothing in this section shall
22 be construed—
23 (1) to require an individual to complete an ad24
vanced directive or a physician’s order for life sus25
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4 health benefits plan; or
5 (3) to promote suicide, assisted suicide, eutha6
nasia, or mercy killing.
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tion, the term ‘‘advanced directive’’ includes a living will,
9 a comfort care order, or a durable power of attorney for
10 health care.
11 (d) PROHIBITION ON THE PROMOTION OF ASSISTED
12 SUICIDE.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—Subject to paragraph (3),
14 information provided to meet the requirements of
15 subsection (a)(2) shall not include advanced direc16
tives or other planning tools that list or describe as
17 an option suicide, assisted suicide, euthanasia, or
18 mercy killing, regardless of legality.
19 (2) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in paragraph (1)
20 shall be construed to apply to or affect any option
21 to—
22 (A) withhold or withdraw of medical treat23
ment or medical care;
24 (B) withhold or withdraw of nutrition or
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1 (C) provide palliative or hospice care or
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fort, even if such use may increase the risk of
5 death, so long as such item, good, benefit, or
6 service is not also furnished for the purpose of
7 causing, or the purpose of assisting in causing,
8 death, for any reason.
9 (3) NO PREEMPTION OF STATE LAW.—Nothing
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erwise have any effect on State laws regarding ad12
vance care planning, palliative care, or end-of-life de13
cision-making.
“Perhaps they are large asses and they are in a position to suffocate you.”
“Greg, They are suffocating me and weighing heavily on my mind.”
You mean your face?
“Greg, They are suffocating me and weighing heavily on my mind.”
That happened to me once and I found that by having sexual intercourse followed by drinking a great deal of water ..
I felt great.
C’mon L.G., show the other 1999 pages.
“That happened to me once and I found that by having sexual intercourse followed by drinking a great deal of water ..
I felt great.”
Who was the unlucky guy?
Mr dare2, Yes, the pressure is also on my face. All over my head.
Some things are worth repeating…
““Greg, I clicked on your link to the definition of moron. Do you think that my friend Mr dare2 is really between 7 and 12 years old? ”
Intellectually ..
no.”
I should add it’s most likely between 3 and 5 years of age.
I miss Mr G.
Mr G, I am sorry I snarled at you and said those awful things about you (I don’t agree at all with what I said).
You are my blog brother and I love you.
You are a complete lunatic, but so am I. Lunatics must stick together.
Where are you? Please come back.
15 (3) shall not promote suicide, assisted suicide,
16 euthanasia, or mercy killing.
17 The information presented under paragraph (2) shall not
18 presume the withdrawal of treatment and shall include
19 end-of-life planning information that includes options to
20 maintain all or most medical interventions.
Hmmmmm….
C’mon L.G., show the other 1999 pages.
Maybe instead you can find the page(s) you’re basing the “death panel” claim on.
We’ll all hold our breaths.
Ouch, my head hurts.
If any of you have ever been headbutted, you would know how I feel. I really hurts.
I feel just like I have been headbutted.
“Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.”
Albert Einstein
“Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.”
Albert Einstein
Albert died before he witnessed Islamist homocide bombers.
Wow, I just learned that a formula that we use in Excel programs also works on this blog.
Press the Ctrl key and then the F key. Type in your search criteria and you can locate every reference to your search.
The last time GO posted was 10/26 if my search was correct.
At work I just tried this formula on our company-wide phone list. The phone list is way too long to keep searching up/down, so I tried the Ctrl + F search and wala….takes me right to that person’s name and I don’t have to scroll up and down.
Mr. GO will be gone for awhile ..
but he will be back.
“We’ll all hold our breaths.”
Of course Obama/PelosiCare will have death panels. Every government run soci@list health care beurocracy does.
They also won’t allow people to buy private health insurance plans after 2013. Why the hell not unless to insure a total government takover?
Again ..
My wife just brought back dinner from Ming’s Garden in Roseville. My favorite, their Mandarin Shrimp is the best thing you could ever have in the history of the planet.
“They also won’t allow people to buy private health insurance plans after 2013.”
Have anything to do with the movie “2014″?
(I’m thinking the name of the new movie coming out is 2014, wasn’t able to research it before posting this comment”
“Again ..”
You didn’t watch the video did you L.G.? If so, are you saying that every point Michele Bachmann is bringing up is just a lie?
“Have anything to do with the movie “2014″?”
Not sure iamme. It’s in the democrat soci@list party’s government takover bill.
2012 is the movie I was referring to.
“A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary.”
Albert Einstein
Michelle Bachman is an extremist that tends to not tell the entire truth.
She is a very good example of why extremists are very, very ..
unpatriotic.
There is nothing in any legislation that would take away the opportunity to have private health insurance.
Nothing.
“A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary.”
Albert Einstein
I agree with that, thanks Montty.
Thank you for the information, Ms iamme. I tried the formula and it works. I’ll use it.
I was sort of hoping you weren’t reading tonight. My posts as of late have an almost uncanny dumbness about them. I’ve noticed they are totally vacuous except for a certain rather profound stupidity.
“There is nothing in any legislation that would take away the opportunity to have private health insurance.
Nothing.”
Not so fast there L.G. The leftist’s main goal is a complete government run only “non-option” and I think you should listen to what Michele has to say instead of buying into the hollywierd left’s ploy to trash her.
This is the video liberals don’t want you to see:
“I agree with that, thanks Montty”
Good. Then you can stop using the bible a justification for your prejudices, right?
Here’s another for ya, d2:
“”The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.”
Gee, that Einstein sure was smart, wasn’t he?
“Good. Then you can stop using the bible a justification for your prejudices, right?”
What are you talking about Monnty? Why is it prejudice to want to keep the Bible from being re-written to accomodate a behavior it clearly states is wrong, or why it is prejudice to want to preserve traditional marriage?
And the world is flat.
“The leftist’s main goal is a complete government run only “non-option” and I think you should listen to what Michele has to say instead of buying into the hollywierd left’s ploy to trash her”
The misinformation bible according to d2.
“What are you talking about Monnty?”
Einstein, einstein. I’m just makiing fun of someone who quotes someone or something of which he has absolutely no comprehension. Comprende?
Back to your cave, troll.
““”The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.”
Gee, that Einstein sure was smart, wasn’t he?”
Albert Einstein believed in God. I brought him up because Greg was pushing atheism. Evil Baby is an athiest gay marriage promoter as well, the same goes for regular church go’er and admitted athiest Dick from the B.Q. It’s liberal atheists like Dick who are infiltrating and trying to destroy the ELCA.
People should be outraged!
“Albert Einstein believed in God”
Ya, and as I’ve pointed out to you, he doesn’t believe in blindly following a book written 3 to 6 thousand years ago in matters of ethics and morality, you cherry picking troll.
“Albert Einstein believed in God. I brought him up because Greg was pushing atheism.”
I was?
“I was sort of hoping you weren’t reading tonight.”
I read this blog every day. It provides my quota of humor that I need on a daily basis to keep me sane.
Some of the comments are hilarious.
Some of the comments are asinine.
“Some of the comments are asinine.”
Thanks a lot Greg!
And Monnty,
I’ll bet the vast majority of gay marriage enthusiests are athiests.
Goodnight everyone!
And there was no “failure to communicate,” prick. The person was very clear, and made TWO living wills to make sure they were understood. But when a family member is dying (and has dementia at the time) siblings can, and will (through their lawyers) parse meanings that they want to read into anything to save a parent (read; prolong their death). Did you not understand my examples above? If there’s a failure to communicate it’s your failure to understand that lawyers can fight over the meaning of words you might think are very clear.
Didn’t mean to be a prick. Your family member went above and beyond in their effort to communicate their wishes. But communication is a two-way street. And there’s no effective counseling for selfish people that refuse to listen. Sorry for your loss.
d@mn.
Messed that one up
Ya, and as I’ve pointed out to you, he doesn’t believe in blindly following a book written 3 to 6 thousand years ago in matters of ethics and morality, you cherry picking troll.
Last I heard, Osama Bin Laden believes in God too.
“Last I heard, Osama Bin Laden believes in God too. ”
HAAAAA!!!! Good one ..
I wonder how many people see how religion has been perverted ..
out of selfishness.
out of selfishness
Selfishness and stupidity are the greatest threats to this country.
“Selfishness and stupidity are the greatest threats to this country. ”
Exactly ..
Its easy to understand the migration of thought that sends the comment section of Kersten blog ‘far-a-field’. But even given that, in the field of Tribune blogs this is where the hive exists. I wonder what the other bloggers think ? I guess their blogs tell the thinking.
The title of this blog is brilliantly simplistic…’think again with Katherine Kersten’. One the one hand its an invitation like ’sing again or sing along with the Three Tenors’. One the other hand its a polite suggestion like ‘try again so you can do better’. And on the other hand (this example uses a three handed person) its a challenge like ‘walk again and regain your strength’.
The other day I introduced my granddaughter to an old McGuffey reader. Its always a pleasant surprise to re-experience the untarnished depth at which they were written and the ability of the formulated word to convey truth while describing common human experiences and observations. I did so because I want her to be able to think and for her thinking to help give permanence of meaning to life, the joy of understanding and the humility to think again.
““Last I heard, Osama Bin Laden believes in God too. ”
HAAAAA!!!! Good one ..
I wonder how many people see how religion has been perverted .. ”
Greg, only a liberal would use the fact that Obama Bin Laden kills innocent people in the name of Islam, to imply that ALL religion is bad and imply that the Bible is bigotted in calling homosexual behavior a wrong.
You guys will do anything in your push for gay marriage, won’t you!
Tiny was hard pressed to find a Black Face in that Silverdome crowd last night.
I really don’t know what to say about that.
“I did so because I want her to be able to think and for her thinking to help give permanence of meaning to life, the joy of understanding and the humility to think again.”
John pass that bowl over here.
“John pass that bowl over here. ”
I’m pretty sure it’s toast ..
including the resins ..
obama has what dummycrats like,
yeah, hes got electrolytes.
who knew when they made that movie in 2006, it would be an apt metaphor representing 52.92 of the american voting public in 2008…
Where did Corzine get all his dough?
Is that a vowel at the end of his last name?
obama has what dummycrats like,
I’m surprised the intellectuals didn’t flock to Palin. I can’t imagine why.
In Neil Baldwin’s Henry Ford and the Jews, the author makes the case that Henry Ford’s self-avowed anti-Semitism originated with his study of McGuffey’s Reader as a schoolboy.
Maybe it’s just me, but I’d prefer my grandchildren not be Nazis.
So according to MSNBC if Dare2 won the democratic party nomination in the 6th district the big tent party would welcome him in with open arms.
God almighty!
Really honestly could we not find a dumber bunch of people to be running our cable news networks.
Interesting commentary in the strib today. Seems that, as the earth gets warmer, fewer Americans believe it’s happening:
“Really honestly could we not find a dumber bunch of people to be running our cable news networks”
Sure. The people who waste time watching ‘em.
“Hamas militants in Gaza have successfully test-fired an Iranian rocket able to reach Israel’s largest urban center, the country’s military intelligence chief said Tuesday.”
Wow wasn’t michele bachmann just over budding up with Hamas?
You know I trust the Iranians myself.
“I’m surprised the intellectuals didn’t flock to Palin”
true, i would have expected eric idle or john cleese
“i would have expected eric idle or john cleese”
or Benny Hill
Albert Einstein believed in God. I brought him up because Greg was pushing atheism.
“The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this”.
Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954
“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it”.
- Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman
“Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being.”
-Albert Einstein, 1936, responding to a child who wrote and asked if scientists pray; quoted in: Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffmann
“The more a man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events the firmer becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the side of this ordered regularity for causes of a different nature. For him neither the rule of human nor the rule of divine will exist as an independent cause of natural events”.
- Albert Einstein, Science and Religion (1941)
thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h3962:
November 3rd, 2009 - H.R.3962 - Public option is extended to cover veterinary services for lower income families.
…Language in the bill would permit those covered under the public option to receive care for their pets…
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REQUIRING THE OPTION OF EXTENSION OF DEPENDENT COVERAGE FOR UNINSURED HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS.
`(a) In General- A group health plan and a health insurance issuer offering health
insurance coverage in connection with a group health plan that provides coverage for
dependent household members shall make available such coverage, at the option of the
participant involved, for one or more qualified dependents (as defined in subsection (b))
of the participant.
`(b) Qualified Dependent Defined- In this section, the term `qualified dependent’ means,
with respect to a participant in a group health plan or group health insurance coverage,
any individual who would be treated as a dependent of the participant under such plan or
coverage and who–
`(1) is under 27 years of age; and
`(2) is not enrolled as a participant, beneficiary, or enrollee (other than under this
section, section 2746, or section 704 of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of
1974) under any health insurance coverage or group health plan.
`(c) Premiums- Nothing in this section shall be construed as preventing a group health
plan or health insurance issuer with respect to group health insurance coverage from
increasing the premiums otherwise required for coverage provided under this section
consistent with standards established by the Secretary based upon family size.’.
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As it is written, “household member” need not be a dependent child. Any living thing
can reasonably be considered a dependent.
I urge you to call your congressman and insist that your taxpayer dollars NOT be used to
cover other people’s dogs and cats!
“is under 27 years of age; and”
If this kid decides to go to graduate school I’m not paying for his insurance another 4 years.
25 is the cut-off ObamaCare or Not!
“As it is written, “household member” need not be a dependent child. Any living thing
can reasonably be considered a dependent.
I urge you to call your congressman and insist that your taxpayer dollars NOT be used to
cover other people’s dogs and cats! ”
I agree with this exception ..
service dogs for the blind and disabled.
“25 is the cut-off ObamaCare or Not! ”
My cutoff was 18 ..
rule of pa.
I urge you to call your congressman and insist that your taxpayer dollars NOT be used to
cover other people’s dogs and cats!
Maybe you could mention this while you have them on the phone.
Reporting from Washington - Backed by some of the most powerful members of the Senate, a little-noticed provision in the healthcare overhaul bill would require insurers to consider covering Christian Science prayer treatments as medical expenses.
“Qualified Dependent Defined- In this section, the term `qualified dependent’ means,
with respect to a participant in a group health plan or group health insurance coverage”
Not to worry, dogs or cats have never been participants in a group health plan or insurance coverage, so they would not be considered qualified dependents.
Not to worry, dogs or cats have never been participants in a group health plan or insurance coverage, so they would not be considered qualified dependents.
Sure, I’m supposed to believe that.
There are no death panels either.
require insurers to consider covering Christian Science prayer treatments as medical expenses.
This is idiotic for two reasons. First, how can you be required to consider something? Second, why would you need insurance to cover prayer treatments? Who pays for prayer? Isn’t that free?
I’m probably missing something. Wouldn’t be the first time…
Maybe there’s just a whole lotta skitzo’s spreading a whole lotta paranoia ..
Poor Dan is wondering how I can post a claim that under Obamacare, the Fluffy the Shih Tzu will be covered, and he’s the one whose comment gets called idiotic.
He’s probably looking out the window to see if the cars have Bizarroworld plates.
“Sure, I’m supposed to believe that.
There are no death panels either”
As the British say, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean people arn’t out to get you.
“There are no death panels either.”
If you look at Nature it eliminates and removes those who would not survive and only make the lives of the group suffer.
Lets look at the Indians. When they moved to find the Buffalo if you where old and unable to travel without holding back the rest of the tribe you stayed back and that was it.
“Lets look at the Indians. When they moved to find the Buffalo if you where old and unable to travel without holding back the rest of the tribe you stayed back and that was it. ”
Oh sure .. just because you live in ..
Buffalo.
What elections are being held?
Maybe there’s just a whole lotta skitzo’s spreading a whole lotta paranoia ..
I think the skitzo’s are the ones writing the law.
Not to worry, dogs or cats have never been participants in a group health plan or insurance coverage, so they would not be considered qualified dependents.
Your misreading it Monty. This section requires insurance companies to offer the option to cover uninsured dependents of the participant.
How long before some whacko judge rules “Fluffy the Shih Tzu” is a dependent because she’s under 27 and isn’t covered by a plan?
It’s one of those unintended consequence things our Gub’mint is so good at.
Looks like the democrat soci@list party is taking a beating tonight in the elections.
This is very good news for America!
i am envisioning myself in the waiting room sitting next to the tiny litess pug.
i am envisioning myself in the waiting room sitting next to the tiny litess pug.
I hope dogs over 27 have to pay the same fine you do.
“i am envisioning myself in the waiting room sitting next to the tiny litess pug. ”
Note to self:
Bring puppy treats on next visit to doctor.
I can already hear the nurse: “leland, would you please raise your leg and pee in the cup?”.
“I think the skitzo’s are the ones writing the law. ”
and the 20% of the population spreading the misinformation to support it or derail it.
That would be ..
a cluster f’n heimer.
“the doctor needs to check your prostrate. Roll over, leland, roll over.”
“I can already hear the nurse: “leland, would you please raise your leg and pee in the cup?”.”
You should probably practice …
I mean PROSTATE. Sheesh. just goes to show you I’m no Einstein.
When do you think mandatory pea testing practices will begin?
Do you think they will provides certificates of competence?
I wonder if they’ll put them on that nice paper or just a skimpy copy ..
ponder, ponder, ponder
“the doctor needs to check your prostrate. Roll over, leland, roll over.”
You wouldn’t have to roll over. A simple “play bow” will do.
When do you think mandatory pea testing practices will begin?
For which peas? Sweet, Snap. I’m guessing the Black eyed peas might have an issue.
Einstein said there is no God, and I say that for sure there is God.
I suppose most of you will be agreeing with Albert. He’s the smart one.
“For which peas? Sweet, Snap. I’m guessing the Black eyed peas might have an issue. ”
You’d have to feel bad for those peas that have to PEE in a pod.
I only have half a brain.
So I believe in a higher source that I suppose could be called God.
I don’t think that higher source wanted me to believe in a book though ..
I think he wanted me to read it and consider it ..
and maybe smile sometime…
or laugh?
He probably has a good sense of humor ..
or is it she?
nj gubernational race, couriere post online.
Re: WIDE SPREAD VOTER FRAUD REPORTED IN NJ GUBERNATORIAL RACE!!!
posted at 11/3/2009 9:24 PM EST on CourierPost Online
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Wait until the ACORN and UNION machines get into action. There will be votes coming in from Chicago and Detroit.
Posted by jwbhammer
Well, I was surprised my father voted for Corzine; not because of politics, but my fathers been dead for 7 years.
love the last line..
ap just declared republican chris christie the winner of the govenor race , depite messiah obama visiting the state 2 times over the last week .. LOLOLOLOL poor mr messiah, the beginning of the end has begun
New Rev. Jeremiah Wright Video - Praising Marxism!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP6_qtLoW98&feature=player_embedded
Go figure!
“ap just declared republican chris christie the winner of the govenor race , depite messiah obama visiting the state 2 times over the last week .. LOLOLOLOL poor mr messiah, the beginning of the end has begun”
This is VERY good news for America!
“This is VERY good news for America! ”
i think so d2. to have a democratic govenor, an incumbent democratic govenor, lose in a very heavily democratic state, kess then a year after the annointed one was crowned god, has to have the leaders of the dems a little worried.
ap just declared republican chris christie the winner of the govenor race
Yeah, I’m pumped. All our problems are solved… yawn…
So I believe in a higher source that I suppose could be called God.
He goes by many names. God, Yahweh, Allah. Doesn’t matter what you call Him.
or is it she?
Neither. Doesn’t really matter anyways.
Greg, how’s your brain? Are you finding memories coming back? Has it effected your physical movements at all? I see you haven’t forgotten D2. :)
DJ ..
Memory, speech and comprehension. Got some balance issues and some motor skills aren’t as good …
I looked at the trolls website .. I probably didn’t find him very credible before and I definately don’t now.
So you forgot D2? You must have forgot all of us. I’m DJ. We’re also “GaySpace” (as GO likes to call it) friends. Is there any recovery from strokes? I know how strokes happen, I’m just not sure what happens after. I know you’re supposed to administer one of those shots (forget what they’re called) to someone having a stroke.
DJ ..
For awhile I did.
There is a shot and I don’t know what it’s called either, but if you don’t have to do it then you shouldn’t.
Afterwards is therapy and lots of testing. One thing they keep saying is that you have to look at the situation like a file cabinet being opened and all the files getting tossed all over .. now it has to be picked up and put away.
I’m real lucky to have someone that keeps track of everything for me ..
and emails from GO .. and comparing notes with Tiny also ..
the heart attack came first and then the stroke at some point and it seems there have been a few smaller ones since.
My gayspace page reminded me of you DJ ..
HA!
Good ol’ GaySpace!
Hey Greg - didn’t realize you were having some major health challenges. Great to see that you’re posting here - you certainly haven’t lost your sense of humor. Hope you continue making great progress!
Your misreading it Monty. This section requires insurance companies to offer the option to cover uninsured dependents of the participant.
Everybody is misreading it because I made it up.
It’s part of an attempt to start an internet rumor, that if successful
will wind up in one of Michelle Bachman’s rants.
I’m thinking of posting it on her Facebook page.
Thank you Sgt.
“I’m thinking of posting it on her Facebook page. ”
Do it.
Then we can start a pool on how soon it gets on tv.
“Dejection fills ballroom after gay marriage vote”
I really don’t know what to say except how many times do we have to have the people vote.
“I really don’t know what to say except how many times do we have to have the people vote”
Some issues never seem to go away….gay marriage, abortion, gun control. They are evergreen hot button sounds bites for the politicians.
“Some issues never seem to go away….gay marriage, abortion, gun control. They are evergreen hot button sounds bites for the politicians. ”
And two extremes fighting over it.
MSNBC Rachel baby thought this was a slam dunk because of course the people of Maine believe in equality.
This has NOTHING to do with equality.
“Michelle Obama took her daughters to a Miley Cyrus concert at the Verizon Center this evening”
The press finds this to be a “fluffy” story…Ohhhhhh.
The old leftist in me says “I wonder how many kids in DC couldn’t afford a ticket”
“The old leftist in me says “I wonder how many kids in DC couldn’t afford a ticket”
Hmmm. The realist in me says most kids in DC probably aren’t in to Miley Cyrus.
I’m guessing the concert was packed with the kids adopted by Pro-lifers.
“MSNBC Rachel baby thought this was a slam dunk because of course the people of Maine believe in equality.”
Sounds like she’s filed all the states of New England away in her mind under some progressive steroetype. Profiles the people accordingly. Probably has never hung out and talked to people in some of the smaller towns up there.
Man, the yokels in Maine have one of the strangest regional accents I’ve ever heard. I wouldn’t presume to know what their political feelings are.
“Michelle Obama took her daughters to a Miley Cyrus concert at the Verizon Center this evening”
Now she’s mad and telling Sasha and Malia once and for all they can’t have leather pants and a stripper pole, end of discussion.
“I really don’t know what to say except how many times do we have to have the people vote. ”
As long as you can get people to sign petitions putting the issue on ballots.
Eventually the people who are opposed to gay people marrying will just die out, that’s what I’m guessing. Even though they try to pass intolerance on to their kids, the Generation Gap whittles away more irrational obsolete thought with every generation.
But right now the straight marriage only corwd tend to outnumber people like me. By a few percentage points at the polls anyhow. But how many of that number are older than me, say Katherine’s age? My blog money says most of ‘em.
“Now she’s mad and telling Sasha and Malia once and for all they can’t have leather pants and a stripper pole, end of discussion. ”
Why would they want to be like D2?
“But right now the straight marriage only corwd tend to outnumber people like me. By a few percentage points at the polls anyhow. But how many of that number are older than me, say Katherine’s age? My blog money says most of ‘em. ”
I think it will just happen when the boogeyman is shown to be a fraud.
Around the same time I’d expect people will understand that making abortion illegal won’t stop it ..
other ways to skin a cat?
Who is it that hates Rybak ..
Given where we are technologically, there isn’t computer software that could do the vote counting that Mpls is now doing by hand?
“I only have half a brain”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you still have a whole brain; you only have a half that is functioning.
“Given where we are technologically, there isn’t computer software that could do the vote counting that Mpls is now doing by hand? ”
Maybe the time table was a little short for reconfiguring all the ballot counting macines with new software and making sure they were all counting right on election day?
Especially given the change would be implemented by a bunch of elderly volunteers with a mixed bag of computer skills?
in a political climate where people start screaming “fraud” at the slightest sign of botched execution?
If you are bothered by occasional or frequent constipation, look in the mirror and repeat the following phrase three times in succession when symptoms occur:
My present and future financial and personal well being are totally in the hands of:
Barack Obama
Joe Biden
Harry Reid
Nancy Pelosi
Tim Geithner
Rahm Emmanuel
Chris Dodd
and Barney Frank!
If that doesn’t scare the sh1t out of you, then you are probably destined to be backed up for the rest of your life.
There is no need to thank me for this advice; I’m just doing it as a public service.
““I really don’t know what to say except how many times do we have to have the people vote. ””
Now I don’t know why the democrats with their super majority just don’t go ahead and do what they say they believe in and pass a Federal Gay Marriage Law.
Listen to the brand new single, “That Ain’t My America” by Lynyrd Skynyrd:
www.hannity.com/Article.asp?id=1574966&spid=16420
Caution: This song will disturb liberals.
“Now I don’t know why the democrats with their super majority just don’t go ahead and do what they say they believe in and pass a Federal Gay Marriage Law.”
Traditional Marriage is 31-0
Gay marriage has now lost in every single state — 31 in all — in which it has been put to a popular vote.
Liberal democrats know society is against gay marriage, and they are afraid to push it.
Just watch, liberal Greg will call me a bigot or something for this!
ELEMENTARY EPIDEMIC: 11 Uncovered Videos Show Public School Children Rapping Praises to Barack Hussein Obama:
h**p://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/11/04/elementary-epidemic-11-uncovered-videos-show-school-children-performing-praises-to-obama/
No wonder our government run public schools are failing so miserably when they are busy with liberal indoctrination while they should be teaching kids to read and write.
“Everybody is misreading it because I made it up.
It’s part of an attempt to start an internet rumor, that if successful
will wind up in one of Michelle Bachman’s rants.
I’m thinking of posting it on her Facebook page.”
Run with it. Most definitely. It would be fun to see where it goes and the potential for gags is practically endless.
Mr dare2, The Democrat party has all but abandoned gay. Their market research shows it to be a big loser issue.
It’s made me much more sympathetic to GBLT(gay bacon lettuce and tomatoes) people.
“Run with it. Most definitely. It would be fun to see where it goes and the potential for gags is practically endless. ”
Agreed.
I think a pool for when it goes national would be a good idea.
Mr Greg, I feel very bad about your brain.
Pray. Pray out loud. Pray like God was sitting in the chair next to you. Ask for what you need. Ask that you may understand God. Do not stop. Try to pray each day. You will then see a miracle. I promise it will happen. God has saved me from calamity and death many times. Performed many miracles, and given me many blessings. I am awful. Last and least among men. Think how much more God will do for you.
Mr. Leland8
I stutter now.
Not even God has the patience for that…
“Mr Greg, I feel very bad about your brain.”
I wish the best for you Greg and I’ve always said you’re a good person, but the biggest problem with your brain is that it’s infected with liberalism.
“It’s made me much more sympathetic to GBLT(gay bacon lettuce and tomatoes) people.”
Leland, I wonder if illegal aliens will be covered for sex changes under soci@list Obama/Pelosi care? If so, will a 25 year old illegal alien who thinks he needs to be converted surgically to a woman have his request granted by liberal government beurocrats, before tending to a 70 year old needing a hip replacement under rationing which will happen?
“If so, will a 25 year old illegal alien who thinks he needs to be converted surgically to a woman have his request granted by liberal government beurocrats, before tending to a 70 year old needing a hip replacement under rationing which will happen? ”
The real question here is ..
why is D2 lying about his age?
We all know you aren’t 25.
Don’t worry Greg, you’re not an illegal alien. Could could probably go to the front of the Obamacare line for that sex change operation, well ahead of people needing real healthcare.
Well look at the time. Goodnight all!
“Everybody is misreading it because I made it up.
Touche’
Changed “children” to “dependent”, nicely done!
Not even God has the patience for that…
I’m sure she does.
Never forget. You’re still better off than several billion people.
“Never forget. You’re still better off than several billion people. ”
I don’t.
and when I get down ..
I just look at a certain person’s website who contributes to this blog and ..
I know I’m not that bad off.
Who knew that inspiration could come from insanity.
Who knew that inspiration could come from insanity.
I could never figure out why you kept engaging the Dtroll.
More proof that God works in strange and mysterious ways.
“I could never figure out why you kept engaging the Dtroll.”
Please note, I don’t do it continuously.
False ego boost isn’t good ..
“Please note, I don’t do it continuously.”
No, you do it liberally.
Goodnight all!
“Run with it. Most definitely. It would be fun to see where it goes and the potential for gags is practically endless. ”
It’d be like that squirrel in the foreground of that couple’s hiking picture.
That freakin’ squirrel is famous.
10 reasons why gay marriage is WRONG
1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven’t adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn’t changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can’t marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Brittany Spears’ 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn’t be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren’t full yet, and the world needs more children.
7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That’s why we have only one religion in America.
9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That’s why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
Twenty Seven
Thirteen
“RI hospital fined $150,000 in 5th wrong-site surgery since 2007″. And some people think tort reform is the problem.
People should be outraged. (Sorry, couldn’t help myself).
27? 13?
It’s the new math, DJ.
1923 + 1927 + 1928 + 1932 + 1936 +1937
+1938 +1939 +1941 +1943 +1947 +1949 +1950 +1951 +1952 +1953 +1956 +1958 +1961 +1962 +1977 +1978 +1996 +1998 +1999 +2000 +2009
_______
= Twenty Seven
Seventy Three
ummmm… what?
See, they held this little baseball game last night, in the Bronx…..
So what’s the 13?
And the 73?
I get the 27 now…
“WASHINGTON - Law enforcement officials say they doubt a Kentucky census worker found hanging from a tree with the word “fed” scrawled on his chest was killed because of his government job.
Instead, the officials say, investigators are increasingly exploring the possibility that 51-year-old Bill Sparkman committed suicide.”
Wasnt everyone on Big ? convinced this was anti Obama govt radicals pushed over the edge by Michelle Bachman? Anyone seen Dora lately?
“See, they held this little baseball game last night, in the Bronx…..”
Fvck The Yankees.
“So what’s the 13?
And the 73?”
Eighty Six
Fvck The Yankees.
No kidding…
Eighty Six
Nice math.
“Wasnt everyone on Big ? convinced this was anti Obama govt radicals pushed over the edge by Michelle Bachman”
Yes, tiny…er…Deacon, everyone but you over at the BQ were 100% on board with the Bachmann angle. Now just type “FRAUDS!!!” for the full BQ experience(wait, tiny does that over here too).
“Fvck The Yankees”
I’ll second that. It’s really gonna piss me off when they throw kajillions at Mauer next year and make him a Yankee.
It’s really gonna piss me off when they throw kajillions at Mauer next year and make him a Yankee.
If the Twins are dumb enough to let it get to that point, they deserve to lose Mauer. If you can’t sign him, trade him. You can’t let him walk for nothing.
Deac, I’m gonna wait to see the evidence. Back in ‘64, before they found the bodies of the 3 civil rights workers, the local Sheriff said, “They’re just hiding and trying to cause a lot of bad publicity for this part of the state”. And the Governor said that “they could be in Cuba”.
“If you can’t sign him, trade him”
Ya, that is how it probably will play out. Still, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him with the Yankees when the dust settles. Baseball needs a salary cap.
Fvck The Yankees.
Seems it was Matsui who had all the Yankee haters bent over the coffee table last night.
Seems it was Matsui who had all the Yankee fans sucking his c0ck last night.
“Seems it was Matsui who had all the Yankee haters bent over the coffee table last night”
Not this Yankee hater. I havn’t watched baseball since the Twinkies bowed out. Foregone conclusions bore me, although I dared to hope for the Twins. Naive, and dumb, I know…..
Seems it was Matsui who had all the Yankee fans sucking his c0ck last night.
With 6 RBIs, I hope someone gave him a フェラチオ
Japanese. Should have guessed since it was Matsui…
I hope he gave himself a フェラチオ… Or from A-Rod.
“Deac, I’m gonna wait to see the evidence.”
Thats my point. Some BQers were ready to send out the national guard to sequre the area because Civil Ware Redux was immenant. Ive saif hold your horses from the start. My appologies to montty for the ‘everyone’ angle.
“It’s really gonna piss me off when they throw kajillions at Mauer next year and make him a Yankee.”
That would have been much more likely had they lost. Im not too worried. Mauer will stay. If he has any desire to return one day to MN, that is.
“If you can’t sign him, trade him”
Yeah. There must be some more Phil Humbers and Carlos Gomezes out there we could get for Mauer.
Mauer will resign. He has a family here and the people of MN wouldnt let him ever cross the border if he signed out east some place. He’s a bumpkin. He wont leave his roots.
“Back in ‘64, before they found the bodies of the 3 civil rights workers, the local Sheriff said…”
Maybe. But that was in Mississippi 45 years ago.
“He wont leave his roots”
Perhaps. Hrbek turned down several more millions to stay here, as did Puck. But that was 15-20 yeras ago. Mauer will be turning down tens to hundreds of millions to stay here. He’s a star now. The great and near-great of SI shimmy up to him on a regular basis. He ain’t no star-struck neighborhood kid from Cretin no mo’.
Money talks, and the rest of us ride the MTC. My guess is he’s gone after next year.
“Mauer will be turning down tens to hundreds of millions to stay here.”
Hundreds of millions? How do you get that math?
Mauer is the most valuable player revenue wise in MN history. The Twins know that. He’ll get an offer within reason from the Twins and end up staying. Santana left for $26 when the twins offered $21. But he had no roots here at all. Mauer will get a better offer than Santana did and will end up staying.
“My guess is he’s gone after next year.”
My guess is youre totally wrong. He gets his deal here and stays. He still gets his hair cut at the same barber shop in StP for gods sake that he did when he was 10. You think AFraud does that?
Major Malik Nadal Hasan? Swedish guy?
“Hundreds of millions? How do you get that math?”
Salary plus endorsement opportunities. With NY exposure, he’ll get the endorsement offers Jeter now gets, since he’s such a clean cut dudly doright. He won’t get that kind of exposure, and that quality of endorsemnts, here in the Minneapple.
Believe me, Deacon, I’d love for him to stay, but he’s one of the very best in the game, and he’s not in his prime yet. He could catch for the Yankees for another 10 years. If I had the financial wherewithal of the NY Yankees at my disposal, I’d go get him. Wouldn’t you?
“AP sources: Suicide eyed in Kentucky census worker hanging; no anti-gov’t motive seen”
Lets go back a couple of months and read the hate about conservatives that was written on the BIG MOUTH blogs.
“Swedish guy?”
Yeah, like that IRA guy McVeigh.
“Lets go back a couple of months and read the hate about conservatives that was written on the BIG MOUTH blogs”
Deja vu.
Mauer will resign. He has a family here and the people of MN wouldnt let him ever cross the border if he signed out east some place. He’s a bumpkin. He wont leave his roots.
I’m not so sure. I think that he doesn’t care about the money. He’s not going to go to NY or Boston for the money. I think he wants to win a championship and, as “one of us”, he understands that the Twins probably aren’t going to put the players around him to win. These quote from Morneau and Nathan from before the trade deadline are key:
Now, with Mauer set to be a free agent after the 2010 season, Morneau and Nathan said the front office should show the St. Paul native that it’s serious about winning.
“If we don’t do anything this year, I can’t see how he’s going to want to come back and go through this every year,'’ Morneau said.
Said Nathan: “It’s important to show the hometown boy that this organization wants to win.”
Added Mauer: “I think Morny and Joe, the guys you talked to, are the same way. They want to win. We want to have chances to win. That’s going to be a big factor into my decision. But I don’t have to make that decision for a while.'’
I also remember Morneau saying something like, “We have all the money we’re ever going to need. Now we want to win a championship.”
Suspected Gunman Is Identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan:
www.abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938
Go figure…..
2 Hand Guns??? How could that be? CNN was tellin’ me all afternoon it was a M-16. Now why would they have said such a thing?
And MSNBC was last to report the guys name. I’m sure like Monty they where hoping for a Anderson and not a Malik Nadal Hasan.
Actually, tiny, I just hope they get whoever is responsible and bring ‘em to justice. I don’t profile and jump to conclusions like you neanderthal neocons.
“And MSNBC was last to report the guys name”
And I haven’t heard the word Jihad mentioned even once.
WASHINGTON – Senate Democrats have blocked a GOP attempt to require next year’s census forms to ask people whether they are a U.S. citizen.
The proposal by Louisiana Republican Sen. David Vitter was aimed at excluding immigrants from the population totals that are used to figure the number of congressional representatives for each state.
***************************
People should be outraged!
And I haven’t heard the word Jihad mentioned even once.
That’s probably because there is no reason (from anything in the reports thus far) to think this had anything to do with Islamic terrorists. Other than the fact that the man has an Arab name, there’s no reason to believe it was a terrorist attack.
If it’s not one wackjob it’s another.
Montty says first “Yeah, like that IRA guy McVeigh.”
Then comes back with this BS
“Actually, tiny, I just hope they get whoever is responsible and bring ‘em to justice. I don’t profile and jump to conclusions like you neanderthal neocons.”
Listen Montty you are ready to lump all conservatives into the McVeigh category so we are on the same page then when I put all Muslims into the Malik Nadal Hasan category.
You FRAUD
“Other than the fact that the man has an Arab name, there’s no reason to believe it was a terrorist attack.”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t other Muslim “American’s” turned on and killed their fellow soldiers recently as well?
“Other than the fact that the man has an Arab name, there’s no reason to believe it was a terrorist attack.”
You have to be kidding?
Reports are saying that Malik Nadal Hasan was an American convert to Islam. Isn’t it also comforting that our prisons are a main source for the spread of radical Islam?
I’ll bet Obama was thrilled to learn of the attack at Fort Hood, so that attention would be taken away from the massive protest against soci@list Obama/Pelosi Care at the Capitol today, until he learned it was an act of Islamic Jihad.
“I’ll bet Obama was thrilled to learn of the attack at Fort Hood,…..”
I’ll bet anyone who would write something like that is a sad excuse for a person much less a Christian ..
f’n tool.
Greg, Obama’s massive ego outweighs any concern he has for a few American soldiers killed in a Jihad attack. His goal is soci@lism for all, and he’s hell bent on imposing his ideology on us.
“Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t other Muslim “American’s” turned on and killed their fellow soldiers recently as well? ”
And caucasian soldiers have turned on caucasian soldiers and caucasian soldiers have turned on black soldiers and caucasian soldiers have turned on soldiers of many nationalities ..
The same is true of black soldiers ..
and probably all others as well.
There is the potential of an extremist commiting this crime, but we will probably not know for sure for awhile.
Extremists even post on this blog ..
brainwashed morons.
Keep drinkin’ the kool aid.
Jihad terror on American soil: Muslim kills soldier, wounds another at Arkansas military recruiting center
Muslim Convert Who Shot US Soldier Says Killing “Justified”
www.patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blogs/muslim-convert-who-shot-us?xgs=1
It’s funny how this topic started with the Flying Imam’s getting wealthy while putting us at a higher risk of Islamic terror, and now we’re seeing Islamic Jihad on within our largest Army base.
Somewhere in Big Lake ..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1hEdJaNPZk&feature=related
‘Did you say foreigners?’
“‘Did you say foreigners?’”
The Muslim Jihadist who just murdered 13 American soldiers was born here Greg. London is having the same problem.
Stevek, you’ve probably seen this informative site, but I thought I’d pass it on incase you haven’t.
I guess the liberals are now speechless.
This is very good news for America!
“Keep drinkin’ the kool aid. ”
There was this spacey woman I went to college with, told me she had friends who would go to Hare Krishna recruitment events, because they knew there would be acid in the kool-aid.
Ya know ..
I think this incident is making the troll happy …excited .. and happy.
“I think this incident is making the troll happy …excited .. and happy.”
Besides Obama, Pelosi, and Reid’s initial reactions, I don’t think this massacre made any good American happy Liberal Greg.
“Besides Obama, Pelosi, and Reid’s initial reactions, I don’t think this massacre made any good American happy Liberal Greg. ”
The key words in your statement were ..
‘..good American..’
Now, instead of searching all your wacko sites for more misinformation, ridiculous theories, and new tag lines to promote your fascist bigotry ..
think about the lives that were lost ..
quietly.
“The key words in your statement were ..
‘..good American..’”
Great point Liberal Greg! These clowns are NOT good Americans.
“think about the lives that were lost ..”
To Islamic extremism.
“Keep drinkin’ the kool aid. ”
I’m surprised Dtroll hasn’t drank enough to put all the “real” pieces together yet.
In order to distract from the tea party protests in DC. Our President, the non citizen, and closet Muslim. Ordered one of his personal secret Muslim Brotherhood operatives to execute operation “Save the Bug-Eyed Princess”.
People should be outraged!
Funny tluck! I bet Bill Maher would love to have you on his hate America show.
ObamaPhones for welfare recipients:
www.safelinkwireless.com/EnrollmentPublic/Home.aspx
Taxpayers should be outraged!
h**ps://www.safelinkwireless.com/EnrollmentPublic/Home.aspx
“Listen Montty you are ready to lump all conservatives into the McVeigh category so we are on the same page then when I put all Muslims into the Malik Nadal Hasan category”
My comment was sarcasm, tiny. And a comment on the way you and d2 think. Thank you for confirming my assumptions about you. You are certainly no fraud, I’ll give you that, although, in your case, that’s really not a good thing.
So, what’s it like to be ideological brothers with a troll?
good morning blog friends and may i say allah ahkbar.
another good muslim followed his true teachings and produced good islamic fruit. just another example of the fruit that tolerance for anything and diversity bring.
we should feel good that a fellow human world traveler was allowed to express his religious views so vigourously. that nothing no matter how wicked , vile and depraved can have judgement passed on it.
another example that even murderous, evil idealogies, started by an genocidal warlord, whose best followeres are committing atrocities in his name, by the millions, even today, must be put on equal footing with legitimate religions.
another example where we will all be told that this barbarous act, committed by a good muslim has nothing to do with islam. how this type of behaviour, the murder of infidels and apostates, the sub-humanizing of women, is just another in a very long string, carried out by thousands if not millions of muslims, is again, just an isolated incident.
it must be grand having a progressive mind, that can just play make pretend and believe in fairy tales.
Turn on the Cable..MSNBC The shooter is the victim UNBELIEVABLE
And Ohhhhhhh on Larry last night if you brought up terrorism just because of the guys last name….ohhhhh how irresponsible ( media scolding on speculation )
“At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.”
Lets see what they find in this @ssholes house.
“another good muslim followed his true teachings and produced good islamic fruit. just another example of the fruit that tolerance for anything and diversity bring”
Gee stevek, can you show me where in the koran it tells all good muslims to go out and murder innocent people? Or is this line of reasoning just another example of the “all muslims are terrorists” mentality?
“it must be grand having a progressive mind, that can just play make pretend and believe in fairy tales”
See above paragraph. Who’s living in Lala Land? It must be grand to lump certain people into certain catagories based on one or two criteria. Saves time when you don’t have to think about things.
And lets stop talking about multiple deployments..THE GUY WAS NEVER DEPLOYED so what the Sam the hell does that have to do with anything.
“Soldiers say suspect shouted `Allahu Akbar!’ before shooting rampage that left 13 people dead”
Wow same thing they where yelling when Ellison got elected.
“Turn on the Cable”
Tiny, honestly, you’ll feel better if you turn the mindrot off. Doesn’t matter if it’s MSNBC or FOX, Rachel or Rush. It’s a con and they’re trying to play ya.
mottty
One of the verses [4:89] read: “so take no friends from unbelievers until they flee submit to Islam. But if they turn renegades, seize them and KILL them wherever ye find them”
I guess next time somebody calls me Baldy I’m justified in blowing his brains out.
One of the verses [4:89] read: “so take no friends from unbelievers until they flee submit to Islam. But if they turn renegades, seize them and KILL them wherever ye find them”
I wonder which Bible verses were used to justify the Spanish Inquisition?
“I wonder which Bible verses were used to justify the Spanish Inquisition?”
Probably something similar. But again I’m not talking about Christians and the Spanish Inquisition was 600 years ago.I don’t see any Christian Fundamentalists killing people on a scale that this religion has over the last 10 years.
So why the pass by people like you and the media.
Close you eyes and imagine people of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. Then imagine YOUR POSTS slamming Michele Bachmann.
Easy for me to do…how about you?
“These quote from Morneau and Nathan from before the trade deadline are key”
DJ, thats called negotiating. They mean a lot less than you think they do. Those are quotes to put preasure on the Twins. He’ll resign.
“One of the verses [4:89] read”
So is your point that the koran advocates jihad for all good muslims? Or are there archaic passages in the koran, just as there are in the bible? Passages that, were someone to cherry pick one here and one there, could be used as justification for anything-rape, murder, discrimination, slavery?
What do you think, tiny?
MSNBC asks how did this go undetected?
Imagine if the Army canned this guy? He’d be on the Today show the next day claiming religious discrimination and he’d be Downtown Dans hero
“With NY exposure, he’ll get the endorsement offers Jeter now gets, since he’s such a clean cut dudly doright.”
Who cant deliver a line to save his life. He’s the best catcher in history but a horrible actor.
“ust as there are in the bible?”
Never said there wasn’t. Why do you people keep bringing up the bible to me. From what I can tell you guys know more bible verses then I do because off the top of my head I KNOW ZERO!
I’m talking about people killing people in the name of their religion. Christians are not doing that Muslims are.
“I don’t see any Christian Fundamentalists killing people on a scale that this religion has over the last 10 years”
Do the words “Northern Ireland” mean anything to you?
“So why the pass by people like you and the media”
There’s no pass, tiny. We simply can see the difference between a small minority of extremists(muslim terrorists) and a general catagory of people(muslims in general).
Can you?
“If I had the financial wherewithal of the NY Yankees at my disposal, I’d go get him. Wouldn’t you?”
Id try. I just think you guys are discounting what being from here and being the best player in the histry of your position on the home town team means to a person. The Twins fans would never, ever forget or forgive him leaving. I mean we’re talking about little baby baseball jesus. Having an entire community you used to be a part of turn its back on you has a cost too and I think the Twins fan whos paranoid of the Yankees plucking him out of here need to take that cost into account. Also, the franchise would be wrecked right as the new stadium opens. Hes the number one revenue stream for the Twins. They WONT let him leave or trade him. He will resign. Thats my guess and I think the odds are much more likely that hes stays than he leaves. Of course Gretsky got delt but thats hockey a sport that is constantly in the tank financially.
“I wonder which Bible verses were used to justify the Spanish Inquisition? ”
and i guess spaniards were out inquising yesterday ?? or last year ?? or over the last few decades ??? or HUNDREDS OF YEARS ??
i guess we presently have millions of spaniards all over the world shouting death to infidels and thousands more actively engaged in the murder of innocents in gods name , dont we ?
its so evil and judgemental to be so intolerant of mass murder isnt it ??
Christians are not doing that Muslims are.
And its not wrong to say that its fact.
So instead of throwing meaningless bible verses back at me tell me why my former lefty fellows aren’t treating this like this former lefty still does.
Fundamentalist’s religious beliefs are dangerous.
Again NO Christians are doing the same things as Muslims are on the same scale ( now that’s important don’t give me one example )
” He’s the best catcher in history but a horrible actor”
Agreed. Actually, I think DJ has a very good point. Regular guys like Morneau and Mauer really want to compete, not make kajillions. I think that quote was a negotiating ploy on Joe’s part, but the pressure is on the Twins. It’s gonna take alotta dough and an aggressive approach to next seasons’ roster to keep him.
“There’s no pass, tiny. We simply can see the difference between a small minority of extremists”
so how many is a small minority of a billion people ??
Are we still arguing with Stevek and Tiny about Islam and the Koran? Didnt we end that argument about 3 years ago?
“Imagine if the Army canned this guy? ”
fling imams, anyone ????
“It’s gonna take alotta dough and an aggressive approach to next seasons’ roster to keep him.”
If thats all it takes the deal is in the bag. The Twins will keep him. All they need is a good set up man, a 2B and a power starter (Lackey) and we are in the game.
“i guess we presently have millions of spaniards all over the world shouting death to infidels and thousands more actively engaged in the murder of innocents in gods name , dont we ?”
So is it the religion itself or the people Stevek? Because the relgions havent changed. The books are the same as they were 600 years ago. If christianity and the bible were used 600 years ago to commit muder and the book hasnt changed, then neither has the religion. I think its a cultural problem masked as a religion problem for guys like you.
“Are we still arguing with Stevek and Tiny about Islam and the Koran? Didnt we end that argument about 3 years ago? ”
LOL, sorry alabama, the argument wont end until im allowed to personally, herd the remnants of the outlawed hate cult of islam into detention centers
“LOL, sorry alabama, the argument wont end until im allowed to personally, herd the remnants of the outlawed hate cult of islam into detention centers”
Freak.
“Again NO Christians are doing the same things as Muslims are on the same scale ( now that’s important don’t give me one example )”
Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it. Extremist muslims are currently causing the vast majority of the carnage. There are plenty of examples of christians doing the same in the past. Ever heard of the Holocaust? Think there was any religious motivation involved in that? How about Northern Ireland? The point is religious extremism is inherently bad, not this particular religion or that.
Get real, tiny and stevek.
“Freak”
HAHAHAHAHA if you say so alabama
“Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it.”
But montty no Christians are killing people everyday so why should I even look back at history. If it starts happing I might do that.
Are you a complete fool?
“Ever heard of the Holocaust?”
I have never heard that the Holocaust was a Christian motivated event.
“The point is religious extremism is inherently bad, not this particular religion”
So lets hear some of that Christian negativity of yours directed towards the religion that CURRENTLY is in the extreme.
“The point is religious extremism is inherently bad, not this particular religion”
What I’m pissed about was the liberal tag teamed I saw on Larry last night when this one guy suggested this was a Religiously motivated act.
“so how many is a small minority of a billion people ?? ”
Nonsense extremist Islam is being practiced right here in the great state of Minnesota.
If we had thousands of Christian woman driving around our highways at 30 in the fast lane montty would be the first on here claiming thats extreme.
SO DON’T BS ME.
brainwashed morons.
You have no proof that D2 is brainwashed.
And I’m pissed because 5 seconds after turning to MSNBC I heard someone say THIS GUY WAS ALSO A VICTIM.
CNN right now is all about This guy and his deployment to Iraq.
And all this talk about PDS when this $uck has never even been deployed.
Our media and I’m afraid some on here sure have their priorities screwed up.
This guy is a piece of $hit PERIOD.
“What I’m pissed about was the liberal tag teamed I saw on Larry last night when this one guy suggested this was a Religiously motivated act. ”
no , it cant be islam, no no this has NOTHING to do with isalm, cant be, nope (allah ahkbar), uh uh, must be the bad soup … (death to america, death to infidels) oh them , the millions marching in the streets, the nice boys and girls wearing bomb belts and machine guns , them ?? there just actors, yeah, thats the ticket….. (allah ahkbar, kill the infidels) nothing to do with islam ,,, its a religion of pieces , i mean peace ….
“So lets hear some of that Christian negativity of yours directed towards the religion that CURRENTLY is in the extreme. ”
he’s just like all those “edgy” “hip” comedians who find it so daring and bold to make fun of christianity. big p@ssies are either to afraid to make fun of islam, or just too ignorant …
im just waiting for hard on chris mathews, doberman an crackho maddows to blame bush
I wonder which Bible verses were used to justify the Spanish Inquisition?
Placed by the Gideons, on page one.
And this crap from his family that he was harassed. This from a guy in the military his whole life. So lets see some official reports. This from a guy that doesn’t want to be deployed. This from the family of a guy who just killed 12 people.
Gezzz I guess Lee Harvey Oswald had his reasons too.
riots in france, murders in subways in great britian, massacres and honor killings in america, car bombings in bagdad, ambushed civilians in mogadishu, suicide bombings in pakistan, killings for allah in chechnya, terror attacks in the phillipines, christians cleansed by muslims in the sudan, islamic terrorists killing clerics in russia, islamic cowards attacking police in india ….and the list goes on and on and on and on .
AND YOU GIVE ME NORTHERN IRELAND ????????
the progressive brain, what a terrible thing to waste ….
“I wonder which Bible verses were used to justify the Spanish Inquisition?
Placed by the Gideons, on page one.”
600 years ago..gezzz at least try to blame something current on Christians like the Holocaust.
mthalo I’m not religious buy why are you types so quick to compare anything Muslim to Christians.
“And this crap from his family that he was harassed”
awww poor baby, so as i suspected, it was societies fault all along, not this poor innocent victim of prejudice and intolerance. who just happens to be a member of a murderous cult of hate …
mthalo I swear if a Muslim chopped your head off in the name of Islam you wouldn’t blame him because of the Crusades.
Think how frickin’ dumb but true it sounds.
big p@ssies are either to afraid to make fun of islam, or just too ignorant
Does Yosemite Sam as an Arab count?
im just waiting for hard on chris mathews, doberman an crackho maddows to blame bush
From what I’ve seen out there in blogdom, the loony left is blaming the NRA.
“So lets hear some of that Christian negativity of yours directed towards the religion that CURRENTLY is in the extreme.”
What a load of straw. I already directed my “negativity” towards religious extremism. If that ain’t good enough for ya, tough.
If all you care about is CURRENT events, you will continue to be clueless about what is CURRENTLY going on.
“Does Yosemite Sam as an Arab count?”
does he say “im the rootenist, tootenist towelhead in the east ??
mthalo I’m not religious buy why are you types so quick to compare anything Muslim to Christians.
I think you missed the levity in my statement.
Just me, but I don’t think this was a terrorist act.
The guy flipped. Now both sides of the extremist world are trying to get the angle.
He is a lifelong muslim, but that doesn’t mean squat.
Not a victim and not a terrorist and no Jihad like the worlds biggest idiot would like you to believe.
And tluck .. Tiny and D2 are NOT the same by any means.
“AND YOU GIVE ME NORTHERN IRELAND ????????”
Ya, it hurts to think past yesterday, doesn’t it? Any idea how many people have died since the ptotestants and the catholics started going after each other in the 17th century? Of course not, you’re not irish so why should you care?
It’s a big world out there, stevek. You might want to pull your head out and take a look around……
“If all you care about is CURRENT events, you will continue to be clueless about what is CURRENTLY going on. ”
give me the neolithic period for $500 , alex
“Just me, but I don’t think this was a terrorist act”
Aye, Greg, it ain’t. But it does provide a lovely platform for disinformationists like d2 and stevek to spew hate.
“It’s a big world out there, stevek. You might want to pull your head out and take a look around…… ”
LOLOL ok mr kettle ,,
“Any idea how many people have died since the ptotestants and the catholics started going after each other in the 17th century? Of course not, you’re not irish so why should you care?
i bet if we add em all up , we’ll probably get a weeks worth of good old contemporary muslim martyrdom
“The guy flipped. Now both sides of the extremist world are trying to get the angle.”
Ok I’ll wait and see what was on his PC.
I am going to make a guess though . …
I’m gonna guess there’s going to be a new ’syndrome’ after this ..
I have NO sympathy for the shooter, but you gotta figure that watching folks come in for six years beat to hell mentally and physically is gonna take its toll on some people ..
“give me the neolithic period for $500 , alex”
Good one. I was gonna continue in the jeopardy theme, but the heck with it.
“At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.”
Greg this isn’t a good start for “just snapped”
“Ok I’ll wait and see what was on his PC. ”
THAT will be interesting.
Two things..
Acted alone.
No immediate association to extremists.
I remember some stuff from a long time ago ..
But ultimately, keep a special thought for those families … this is hard on them.
“Greg this isn’t a good start for “just snapped” ”
I think the guy was trying to make himself out to be nutz … and as it turns out he really was.
“How about Northern Ireland?”
Montty Northern Ireland was as much of a Nationalist fight as it was a religious one. Most Northern Protestants can trace their roots back to England. Many Irish Catholics and otherwise saw this as an English invasion.
So you should really know what the hell you’re talking about before you open you big mouth.
“i bet if we add em all up , we’ll probably get a weeks worth of good old contemporary muslim martyrdom”
Well, you’d lose, but I don’t expect you to take my word for it. Since you seem to be soooo concerned with religious extremism, you might want to check it out.
By the way, the Holocaust was an example of religious and racial intolerance directed mainly against one group of people. Kinda like what you advocate against the muslims, stevek. The Holocaust claimed over 6 million lives and happened in one very short period of time in the late 1930s and early to middle 1940s. How does that add up against your contemporary muslim martrydom? Or isn’t that “current” enough for ya?
“obama warns not to jump to conclusions”
I’m not even going to comment on this from “Mr Jump to Conclusions” himself.
“By the way, the Holocaust was an example of religious and racial intolerance”
Most Germans are Catholics but this is the first time I’ve heard the Nazi did it in the name of Christianity.
Is this the new whacko history I’ve heard about.
montty YOU CAN’T COMPARE IT WHEN IT DOESN’T COMPARE.
“Montty Northern Ireland was as much of a Nationalist fight as it was a religious one”
Ya, tiny, and Osama bin Laden(remember him?) said his jihad against the west is rooted in freeing the arab world from western influence. He sees the encroaching western cultural imperialism as an invasion into traditional arabic culture, and his jihad is a reaction to that invasion. He has said the thing that set him off was the establishment of US bases in Saudi Arabia, fer christ sakes.
You were saying about the “big mouth” thing?
So all that Bull Sh^t you just posted is false from its premise. So listen spare us and head to Huffington or something.
“Most Germans are Catholics but this is the first time I’ve heard the Nazi did it in the name of Christianity”
Who said they did it in the name of christianity? You need to work on those reading skills, tiny.
“montty YOU CAN’T COMPARE IT WHEN IT DOESN’T COMPARE”
You can shout all you want. It doesn’t make your point any better or worse, just louder.
“So all that Bull Sh^t you just posted is false from its premise”
Really, tiny. Why did the Jews get rounded up and sent to concentration and death camps? Because they were Jewish, right? Sounds like religious intolerance to me, but maybe you have some other explaination?
And it wasn’t just the Jews that got rounded up. Gypsies and other “non-Aryan” types ended up in the camps as well. Sounds like racial intolerance to me, tiny, but, again, maybe you have a different explaination?
And just to clear up your little MOVEON mind its estimated some 3 million Christians where also killed by the Nazi for their religious beliefs.
“You can shout all you want. It doesn’t make your point any better or worse, just louder.”
I SHOUT at morns to make sure everyone knows what a fool they are.
“Who said they did it in the name of christianity?”
i guess thats kinda the point here monty, our friendly murderous muslim martyrs DO do it the the name of allah, and his boy b@tch mohammed
Done in the name of National S@ci@lism is what I was always taught. This is the first time I’ve heard it was done in the name of Christianity.
And tluck .. Tiny and D2 are NOT the same by any means.
That was Monty dude.
““Who said they did it in the name of christianity?”
i guess thats kinda the point here monty, our friendly murderous muslim martyrs DO do it the the name of allah, and his boy b@tch mohammed”
Read my 12:13 post, tiny. It’s religious and nationalistic, to say nothing of cultural.
And by the way, YOU were the one who said they did it in the name of christianity. The history of the Holocaust according to tiny?
“Read my 12:13 post, tiny. It’s religious and nationalistic, to say nothing of cultural.
And by the way, YOU were the one who said they did it in the name of christianity. The history of the Holocaust according to tiny?”
Ooooops. Sorry, tiny. That was stevek. It’s so hard to tell you two apart…
“This is the first time I’ve heard it was done in the name of Christianity”
I suppose it is since you’re the one saying it. Anyway, now my 12:35 post DOES apply to you.
“And by the way, YOU were the one who said they did it in the name of christianity. The history of the Holocaust according to tiny?”
So montty here we are talking about whether this guy did the shooting just to shoot or did it motivated by religion.
Then I assume you wished to compare the Holocaust as a historical event that was done also in the name of a religion.
Because thats what we where talking about when you posted…
“By the way, the Holocaust was an example of religious and racial intolerance directed mainly against one group of people.”
So you not only don’t know what you’re talking about but you lie about what you said after its been proven that you are a complete moron. Not half a moron or a fifth of a moron but a complete moron.
“That was Monty dude”
Aye, that was me. And yes, there is a difference between d2 and tiny. Tiny is much more fun to bait…
I guess next time try to keep within the discussion we are having or explain that you are now talking about something else.
“By the way, the Holocaust was an example of religious and racial intolerance directed mainly against one group of people.”
See we where talking about things done in the name of religion. Clearly you knew that because you brought up the Spanish inquisition. But now all of a sudden after injecting the Holocaust obviously to compare it to an act against a religion in the name of another religion and been proven that you’re an idiot you want to bash those that point this out to you.
I SHOUT at morns to make sure everyone knows what a fool they are.
Monty is Irish, you should be shouting TOP OF TH’ MORON TO YA!
“Aye, that was me. And yes, there is a difference between d2 and tiny. Tiny is much more fun to bait… ”
montty you’re not the dumbest person I’ve seen on this blog but you’re close.
“Then I assume you wished to compare the Holocaust as a historical event that was done also in the name of a religion”
montty says:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
“So all that Bull Sh^t you just posted is false from its premise”
Really, tiny. Why did the Jews get rounded up and sent to concentration and death camps? Because they were Jewish, right? Sounds like religious intolerance to me, but maybe you have some other explaination?
And it wasn’t just the Jews that got rounded up. Gypsies and other “non-Aryan” types ended up in the camps as well. Sounds like racial intolerance to me, tiny, but, again, maybe you have a different explaination?
Since you obviously didn’t read it the first time, I think it’ll save time to just re-post my response.
And please burn your “christianity against the jews” strawman. It’s an example of religious intolerance, not christian religious intolerance.
“Monty is Irish”
Can’t be because he doesn’t know sh^t about Northern Ireland.
“Really, tiny. Why did the Jews get rounded up and sent to concentration and death camps?”
Because they where Jewish and rounded up in the name of National S@ci@lism not Christianity. I mean really what don’t you understand about this discussion we are “trying” to have.
“It’s an example of religious intolerance, not christian religious intolerance.”
Oh so you mean Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was an intolerant Muslim?
“Monty is Irish, you should be shouting TOP OF TH’ MORON TO YA!”
Well, at least you can spell “moron”.
“Oh so you mean Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was an intolerant Muslim”
No, I mean that The Holocaust was an example of religious intolerance, not an example of christian intolerance towards the jews. Jeez, tiny, do try to stay on task.
“Clearly you knew that because you brought up the Spanish inquisition”
Actually, that was Dan, but who’s counting?
I don’t think this doofus Hasan would have been led by his Muslim faith to go on that rampage if he didn’t have a screw loose in his head.
Psychosis and religion don’t mix real well. One could maybe make the case that Islam mixes worse with psychosis than Christianity, but maybe that’s just a matter of historical context, true right now but not always. Think Crusades.
“Montty Northern Ireland was as much of a Nationalist fight as it was a religious one.”
Like Afghanistan now tiny, don’tchya think?
Clearly you knew that because you brought up the Spanish inquisition.
Not feeling the love.
Wouldn’t the “Allahu Akbar!” yelling Malik Nadal Hasan need a security clearance to have the position he was in? How could that happen with his public support of Islamist terror organizations?
Well I guess if Barack Hussein Obama and Keith Hakim Ellison (DFL) can get security clearances with their ties to anti-American radicals, anyone can.
ORLANDO, Fla. – A gunman opened fire Friday in the offices of an engineering firm where he was let go more than two years ago. At least six people were hurt and police were searching for a gunman in a sport utility vehicle.
It seems that mass shootings, like love, come in spurts.
“Well I guess if Barack Hussein Obama and Keith Hakim Ellison (DFL) can get security clearances with their ties to anti-American radicals, anyone can”
Tiny, I take it all back. You are nothing like the dtroll, especially when it comes to the dissemination of disinformation.
Just hefore his Jihad:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOeXzamxSk8&feature=player_embedded#
“All they need is a good set up man, a 2B and a power starter (Lackey) and we are in the game.”
I was gonna add-sign Cabrera-to that, but did you see this:
Seems like a heck of a deal for us, unless there’s something wrong with Hardy that we don’t know about.
Greg, I got this e-mail from Sherbcofree. It’s not a gerbil but might work. Interested?
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My daughter has a all white (but not albino) guinea pig, he is so cute! He was born May 2 this year and she is just not taking care of him, he is friendly and can be held and carried around. Comes with food, water bottle and bedding. We have kept him in a large storage tote with out the lid and he has done fine.
Big Lake
You are nothing like the dtroll, especially when it comes to the dissemination of disinformation.
The Orlando gunman has a Hispanic name.
Greg, I got this e-mail from Sherbcofree. It’s not a gerbil but might work. Interested?
I’ll bet the orginal e-mail offered a guinea pig and a donkey
“The Orlando gunman has a Hispanic name.”
Big deal. I’ve gone to rally’s supporting border control, and Mexican Americans have been right there with us on our side. Just because someone has a Hispanic last name doesn’t mean he/she is an open borders soci@list.
“I’ll bet the orginal e-mail offered a guinea pig and a donkey”
What don’t want a rodent, and what would I do with a democrat?
Wouldn’t the “Allahu Akbar!” yelling Malik Nadal Hasan need a
No surprise this is more disinformation for the disinformation champion.
I was walking into the medical SRP building when he started firing (he never made it to the main SRP building….the media accounts are understandably pretty off right now). He was calmly and methodically shooting everyone. Like every non-deployed military post, no one was armed. For the first time in my life I really wish I had a weapon. I don’t know how to explain what it feels like to have someone shoot at you while you’re unarmed. He missed me but didn’t miss a lot of others. Just pure random luck. It’s a very compressed area, thus the numbers.
…
After he shot the female police officer he was fumbling his reload and I saw the other police officer around the corner and yelled at him to come shoot the shooter. He did. Then I used my belt as a tourniquet on the female officer.
…
This was premeditated. This wasn’t VBC again. That guy snapped, not this one. He was so damn calm when he was shooting. Methodical. And he was moving tactically.
…
But please, no one use this politically! The Army is not “broken”, PTSD doesn’t turn people into killers, most Muslims aren’t evil, and whether we should stay or go in Afghanistan has nothing to do with this. I’m babbling…sorry.
…
There have been several media reports that the Fort Hood shooter yelled “Allahu Akbar!” during his rampage, but my correspondent says, “He was silent in my presence.”
“Survivors of the rampage said the suspect shouted “Allahu Akbar!” — “God is great!” in Arabic — before opening fire, according to Fort Hood base commander Lt. Gen. Robert Cone.”
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572571,00.html
A second hand reports via Faux “News” vs. a first hand account by someone there during the shooting.
“Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that Hasan made the comment.”
wow motherjones !!!! i used to buy and read that when i was an adolescent hippie , brings back missing memories
“a first hand account( most likely heavily edited by a far left leaning “journalist) by someone there during the shooting”
fixed.
ill never get the regressives and their affinity for intolerant fundamental cults like islam. Dont they realize they will be among of first ones to be slaughtered like chaff removed from the wheat ???
“Survivors of the rampage said the suspect shouted “Allahu Akbar!” — “God is great!” in Arabic — before opening fire, according to Fort Hood base commander Lt. Gen. Robert Cone.”
Base personnel also announced earlier that the shooter was dead and the cop who stopped him was dead too, and neither was the case.
They’ll be looking extra stupid if Hasan turns out not to be the shooter, although it appears they at least got that part right.
What is the method of dispatch for military executions these days? Is it still firing squad? It would be profoundly ironic if they treat his gunshot wounds and get him healthy just so they can court-martial him and ultimately shoot his @ss.
Can you plead not guilty by insanity in a court martial?
“Can you plead not guilty by insanity in a court martial?”
He could plead Islamist, that should be close enough.
Computers, Hard Drives Seized at ACORN’s New Orleans Office
Investigators for the Louisiana Attorney General executed a search warrant Friday at ACORN’s New Orleans office in connections to allegations of embezzlement and tax fraud.
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572706,00.html
More shananagans from the corrupt democrat vote fraud group ACORN. I’m glad Michele Bachmann led the way to have these imbeciles investigated.
Obama’s Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting:
A bad week for Democrats compounded by an awful moment for Barack Obama.:
www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html
Is this a more credible news source than Mother Jones, downtown dem?
I couldn’t believe it! Obama was more interested in chit chat and giving friends “shout outs” than addressing the Jihad attack. It took him a long time to talk about the Islamic terror attack, but that should have been first.
“Investigators for the Louisiana Attorney General executed a search warrant Friday at ACORN’s New Orleans office in connections to allegations of embezzlement and tax fraud.”
this taxpayer is outraged !!!
“”It took him a long time to talk about the Islamic terror attack, but that should have been first. ”
barry doesnt care about the people in the military. they arent his constituents, thyre in the country legally and have jobs, after all.
“Greg, I got this e-mail from Sherbcofree. It’s not a gerbil but might work. Interested?”
Not my gig, but I’m sure you’ll be testing it out along with anything else you can manage to stick up your rectum.
“Computers, Hard Drives Seized at ACORN’s New Orleans Office”
God, I could go for an Abita Turbodog, some boiled mudbugs and grilled oysters after reading this.
“Can you plead not guilty by insanity in a court martial? ”
Yes.
“God, I could go for an Abita Turbodog, some boiled mudbugs and grilled oysters after reading this. ”
I think I was there once.
““Survivors of the rampage said the suspect shouted “Allahu Akbar!” — “God is great!” in Arabic — before opening fire, according to Fort Hood base commander Lt. Gen. Robert Cone.””
You forgot to add the part where he stated it hasn’t been confirmed and that only a few heard it while others said he was very calm and said nothing.
What really sucks is that I honestly believe that some idiots are actually enjoying this has happened …
almost as though they want to shout ‘I told you so’ ..
so they’re going to any means of misinformation to make it happen.
Wanna be outraged? try looking at the shape of our own countries extremists …
that’s an outrage.
The incident at Ft. Hood is tragic.
“God, I could go for an Abita Turbodog, some boiled mudbugs and grilled oysters after reading this.”
And a muffaletta. Don’t forget the muffalletta.
Is this a more credible news source than Mother Jones, downtown dem?
Anything’s a more credible source than Faux News.
I had a coworker once who I was really worried would go postal.
He wasn’t Muslim. He was a gung-ho God bless America Navy reservist white yokel from Wisconsin.
He was also an idiot, had terrible social skills, and would try to lie his way out of any mistake you caught him making.
Some of the younger brash guys in the facility would pick on him because they were amused by how mad he would get. Stupid playground stuff. I don’t think they understood how dangerous the game they were playing was. This guy really worried me. Luckily his idiocy got him fired before anyone pushed him over the brink.
I wouldn’t be surpised if I see him in the news someday though.
What I am trying to say is there are ticking time bombs in all walks of life. The fact that this alleged shooter was a devout Muslim is not the primary piece of the puzzle. The primary piece was he was a nutter. and chickensh!t, with a bad case of Pre-traumatic stress disorder. I just made that term up, but I think it describes him. I wonder though, and when I say this let me be clear only the shooter is guilty of the crime, but I wonder, would it have come to this if the guy wasn’t hearing anti-muslim sentiment from fellow servicemen all the time?
“The primary piece was he was a nutter. and chickensh!t, with a bad case of Pre-traumatic stress disorder. I just made that term up, but I think it describes him. I wonder though, and when I say this let me be clear only the shooter is guilty of the crime, but I wonder, would it have come to this if the guy wasn’t hearing anti-muslim sentiment from fellow servicemen all the time? ”
you should add those same sentiments from other citizens …
and no, that doesn’t mean I have sympathy for him . not one bit.
What I am implying is that there’s a whole lot of extremism in this country that is unwarranted and causing far more harm than any good ..
Some of the things I read from some folks on this blog make me wonder why in the heck they’re even able to function in society …
“He was also an idiot, had terrible social skills, and would try to lie his way out of any mistake you caught him making. ”
i deny we ever met !!
i deny we ever met !!
i deny that’s me !!
Fixed.
The more I hear about this I’m starting to believe the root cause of this was the Army Brass.
Is it just me, or does having a devout Muslim, treating Soldiers that have killed devout Muslims, seem like a bad idea?
Liberal Greg says:
“What I am implying is that there’s a whole lot of extremism in this country that is unwarranted and causing far more harm than any good .. ”
Like the Islamic extremist which was undetected by government, desite overwhelming signs of danger. We need to get rid of politically correct leftist policies which not only allowed this lunatic to have a job with the military, but got promoted.
Hey Greg,
Fill us in on GO. You said he would be gone for a while.
Is he in the Big House?
“i deny we ever met !! ”
Guaranteed, the guy I’m talking about was dumber than stevek.
Guaranteed, the guy I’m talking about was dumber than stevek.
Dumber than Dtroll?
“The incident at Ft. Hood is tragic.”
Amen, Greg.
“Dumber than Dtroll?”
‘fraid so.
Hey leland, looks like if you don’t pay your fine you can get 3 squares a day!!
http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153583
DAR, Are you sure that guy isn’t in Congress now?
Hey leland, looks like if you don’t pay your fine for not having health insurance you can get 3 squares AND free health care!!
h-ttp://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153583
DAR, are you sure that guy isn’t in Congress now?
“Is it just me, or does having a devout Muslim, treating Soldiers that have killed devout Muslims, seem like a bad idea?”
Greg, when German Americans invaded Nazi’s in WWII, American’s of German decent didn’t turn on their fellow American soldiers and kill them, NEVER!
The problem here is with Islam, and the fact that religion comes before country or anything else with these people is a serious problem.
‘fraid so.
Are you as sure now?
“The problem here is with Islam, and the fact that religion comes before country or anything else with these people is a serious problem. ”
You’ll need to provide proof this was religiously motivated ..
next,
I find it incredibly interesting you’re admitting that country should come before religion ..
I’m keeping that note on my desktop…
you probably should too.
Lastly, you really don’t think about what you’re typing do you.
Just one more platform for him to scream about something he knows nothing about ..
extremism svcks and is incredibly unpatriotic.
High school sports are great ..
I watched Glencoe-Silver Lake play football tonight. Man, those kids are good.
This will calm things, even Liberal Greg’s desire for gerbil activity.
I watched Glencoe-Silver Lake play football tonight. Man, those kids are good.
Hey, we were good too, a couple of decades ago.
“Hey, we were good too, a couple of decades ago. ”
Almost 3 of them for me ..
I just like that it’s pure .. no big money and stuff. Those kids just play for the love of it.
“I just like that it’s pure .. no big money and stuff. Those kids just play for the love of it. ”
and the poontang
“and the poontang ”
Uh huh.
But really, the sport took priority .. at least during the game .. err .. most of the game ..
“Greg, when German Americans invaded Nazi’s in WWII, American’s of German decent didn’t turn on their fellow American soldiers and kill them, NEVER!”
You’ll need to prove that and keep this in mind:
“Fraggings have occurred in every war in this century. The available statistics are too spotty and inconsistent to make any direct comparison; however, they do show a spectacular increase in the number of violent attacks by enlisted men on their superiors. In World War I, which involved over 4,700,000 American military, fewer than 370 cases of violence directed at superiors were brought to courts-martial. This low ratio was fairly constant through World War II and the Korean police action. It did not change significantly until Vietnam. Since January 1970 alone, a period during which roughly 700,000 Americans were in Vietnam, there have been 363 cases involving assault with explosive devices (fraggings using hand grenades mines, and the like) and another ‘118 cases termed “possible assault with explosive devices.” Forty-five men died in those attacks, and these figures are exclusive of fraggings by such other weapons as rifle or knife. Officers in the Judge Advocate General Corps have estimated that only about 10 per cent of fraggings end up in court. ”
www.eugenelinden.com/Fragging_and_other_Withdrawl_Symptons.html
“You’ll need to prove that and keep this in mind:”
I sense a bit of Jihahi denial amoungst our friends on the liberal left.
It seems our resident fascist extremist is verifying once again that he’s willing to lie in order to promote his propoganda.
“It seems our resident fascist extremist is verifying once again that he’s willing to lie in order to promote his propoganda.”
What agenda is that Liberal Greg? Saying that a guy who supports Islamic terror should never have been given a security clearance? The problem here is with liberal politcial correctness Greg. If this guy would have been dealt with properly instead of promoted because he was a Muslim, 13 more people would be alive today.
Islamic Terror Attacks on American Soil:
www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm
I’ll bet you can’t handle the truth Greg.
“If this guy would have been dealt with properly instead of promoted because he was a Muslim, 13 more people would be alive today. ”
Now, please explain to me how you know he was promoted because of his religion.
If you can’t, then this is an opportunity for you to get credibility as a person (not as a poster to this blog - that’s gone) by either proving that statement or admitting that you’re wrong and/or lying … again.
While you’re at it, prove this statement as well:
“Saying that a guy who supports Islamic terror should never have been given a security clearance?”
How do you know he supports Islamic terror?
“I’ll bet you can’t handle the truth Greg. ”
I’ve probably got a far better handle on the ‘truth’ then you’ve even considered.
The troll seems to think he’s very well acclimated with the military ..
I wonder how long he served?
Good day to get some final stuff done for winter .. later.
Troll .. think you can finish your homework?
I sense a bit of Jihahi denial amoungst our friends on the liberal left.
So that’s what the Right is calling “evidence” these days?
“If this guy would have been dealt with properly instead of
So we could start rounding up the non-Christians. How… UnAmerican. How… unsurprising.
What part of “Islamist” don’t you liberals understand? This guy openly supported Islamic terror but was allowed to stay in his position.
And with the link I sent you Greg from TheReligionofPeace, are you saying that these acts of Islamic terror never really occured on American soil, or do you just not like hearing about them?
i figure some of the jihadi denial by officialdom have good, if misguided intentions behind it.
the incorrect but well intentioned folks are just trying to prevent open warfare between millions of brain washed savages and the rest of civilization.
“So we could start rounding up the non-Christians”
What! You liberals sure get carried away! All I saying is that this guy had obvious problems and should have been dealt with. Why would you allow someone who openly supports the murder of innocent people stay in a position where he could carry his wishes out?
its really quite interesting and amazing to me, watching tv pundit after pundit, even those on dan’s favorite news source, fox, claim that only a tiny minority of muslims worldwide are celebrating the actions of major mayhem. they are “fantactics” to quote one talking head on msnbc.
i, for one, do not forget the scenes of millions of cultists in the muslim world, dancing and celebrating in the streets after 9/11. (que apologist response) i remember the riots following the teddy bear debacle and celebrations over killing a filmaker in amsterdam for supposedly insulting islam and the worldwide muslim outrage and death threats over cartoons.
no , these feelings arent confined to the fringe muslim. they are mainstream muslim idealogy and must be quarentined for the sake of civilization.
This guy openly supported Islamic terror but
And the evidence is…
no , these feelings arent confined to the fringe muslim. they are mainstream muslim idealogy and must be quarentined for the sake of civilization.
Maybe we could give it a catchy name. How about The Crusades.
What could go wrong?
“And the evidence is… ”
More denial from the liberal left.
“Maybe we could give it a catchy name. How about The Crusades.
What could go wrong? ‘
all we really need to do , is drastically reduce immigration from the middle east and get serious about domestic production of fossil fuels, gas and alternative energies. deprive them the means for state sponsored terrorism. let them squabble in the sand amongst themselves.
“And the evidence is…”
*********************************
On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting “Allahu Akbar!” committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11. And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.
What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of non-denominational shoplifting.
This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it’s an act of terror. Period.
When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as “Palestinian” in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit — well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an “Islamist terrorist.”
But the president won’t. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there’s no such thing as “Islamist terrorism” in ObamaWorld.
And the Army won’t. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism “terrorism.”
And the media won’t. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops — despite their crocodile tears.
Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn’t killed on the spot.
Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming “harassment” drove him temporarily insane. There’ll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our politically correct Army leadership wouldn’t dare pursue or carry out the death penalty.
Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he’ll have the last laugh.
But Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.
Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.
Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.
Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.
There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?
For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.
Get ready for the apologias. We’ve already heard from the terrorist’s family that “he’s a good American.” In their world, maybe he is.
But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense?
A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card, beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she’s becoming too Westernized.
Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we’re assured that “Islam’s a religion of peace.”
I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s non-response to the Ft. Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.
Read more: www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/fort_hood_xjP9yGrJN7gl7zdsJ31vnJ#ixzz0WBduZWPk
The U.S. troops in Afghanistan have obviously retained their sense of humor. You may be Taliban if:
1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to beer.
2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can’t afford shoes.
3. You have more wives than teeth.
4. You wipe your butt with your bare hand, but consider bacon “unclean.”
5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.
6. You can’t think of anyone you haven’t declared Jihad against
7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.
8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.
9. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least one.
10. You’ve always had a crush on your neighbor’s goat
excellent article d2. eloquent and to the point.
He was also an idiot, had terrible social skills, and would try to lie his way out of any mistake you caught him making.
This was redundant. You already said he was from Wisconsin.
You may be Taliban if
Ha!
And with the link I sent you Greg from TheReligionofPeace…
D2, if someone posted a link for you from MoveOn, would you trust it? Stop getting your news from sources with obvious biases and agendas.
And the evidence is…
Dan, as reluctant as I am (I hate when I have to do this) to agree with D2, I have read that Hasan was under investigation from the F.B.I. for posting on a website something that certainly appeared to be supportive of terroristic activities. I can link one of the stories I’ve read that in if you haven’t heard that. While what little I know about that doesn’t seem to be enough to completely strip the A-hole of his rank and boot him out of the Army, it should be enough evidence that the F.B.I. should have at least talked to him (interview, interrogate, whichever). I believe (I might be wrong on this point) I read that they were working on getting a search warrant to search his computer. That should have been easier to get. Impeding our law enforcement is dangerous. I’m not saying give them free reign to do anything they wish, but let’s not make them jump through hoops. Naw mean?
I wonder though, and when I say this let me be clear only the shooter is guilty of the crime, but I wonder, would it have come to this if the guy wasn’t hearing anti-muslim sentiment from fellow servicemen all the time?
Interesting point DAR. It would be tough to be a Muslim and be a psychiatrist in the military right now. Listening to people gripe about the dirty “ragheads” and all that all the time can’t be easy. Unfortunately, that’s the life he chose and he could have left it.
What’s interesting is that he didn’t flip out until he was actually going to be deployed for the first time. Personally, I think the guy was just a pvssy and psychotic and didn’t want to have to go overseas. It’s not like you’re going to see a lot of action as a psychologist who’s a major. What a pvssy…
Also, is anyone else glad that the two shooters from the last couple of days survived. I’m sick of these pansy suicidal murderers who go in to a place, shoot a bunch of people, and then expect to die when the police shoot them. They almost always end up dead because the police obviously have to stop them, but it pisses me off that they get what they want. So I’m happy to see these A-holes live. Hasan will get to spend the next 20 years appealing his death penalty and knowing that he is going to fry (or however they kill folks in TX nowadays).
I don’t know if Florida has the death penalty, but that guy is going to spend a long time hopefully thinking about how he’s going to die.
“Dan, as reluctant as I am (I hate when I have to do this) to agree with D2, I have read that Hasan was under investigation from the F.B.I. for posting on a website something that certainly appeared to be supportive of terroristic activities…”
You’re not agreeing with D2 or with anyone else DJ.
The dude was a nutcase that happened to be Muslim.
NOTHING has suggested he workeed with any particular group at all.
And just a guess, but I don’t think they will.
He didn’t want to deploy and went skitzo ..
My guess is that it will end there but you can bet the looney tunes on either side will twist it to their advantage.
If you note, all the news reports are putting out potentials and have little proof of anything other than he shot those soldiers.
““I don’t know his intentions,” Reasoner told FoxNews.com. “I don’t know what he was thinking. I won’t condemn another Muslim.””
“I don’t know if Florida has the death penalty, ”
sure does, jeb was gov here and wasnt reluctant to sign a writ or 2.
“He didn’t want to deploy and went skitzo .. ”
sorry g, i believe it wasnt the action of a deranged individual. i believe it was a conscious calculated plan to fulfill his religious obligations as he saw them.
now if you want to admit that the state of being “skitzo” is a common state of being for a significant number of muslims, then i will go along with that reasoning.
“now if you want to admit that the state of being “skitzo” is a common state of being for a significant number of muslims, then i will go along with that reasoning. ”
HA! how about a ‘…significant number of islamic extremists … ‘ then I’d be with you. Most of the extremists are there because of some kind of trauma to begin with .. the treatment they choose isn’t valid.
It’s why any type of extremism typically isn’t good ..
like extreme drinking.
but then again .. extreme amounts of sex when you’re a devote lesbian trapped in a male body is probably a good thing.
“i believe it was a conscious calculated plan to fulfill his religious obligations as he saw them. ”
This is why I don’t ..
he was an f up all through his career. If he was trying to plan something out he’d be less obvious.
Of course, I might change my answer because I forgot what I wrote the day before ..
f’n blender in my head.
It’s why any type of extremism typically isn’t good ..
like extreme drinking.
Haha!! It’s 11:30 and I’ve been drinking for 3 hours already! Of course, I got off of work at 8 a.m… I made the mistake of drinking two energy drinks during my overnight and I figured some alchomahol would calm me down and put me to sleep… not yet! The problem is that I don’t drink coffee or pop (unless it’s a rum and coke) so I never really get caffeine. So I’m wide awake… I really have to go to bed soon so I can get up in time to start drinking at a decent hour on Saturday night… :)
“I really have to go to bed soon so I can get up in time to start drinking at a decent hour on Saturday night… :) ”
and practice being an extreme lesbian trapped in a mans body.
“but then again .. extreme amounts of sex when you’re a devote lesbian trapped in a male body is probably a good thing”
if i were to agree with the proposition that these actions are carried out by extremists, i would have to come to the conclusion that the only cure for terrorism is to force these extremists in mens bodies to all become promiscous lesbians.
like extreme drinking.
Hold on right there blender boy.
There’s nothing wrong with extreme drinking….. As long as it’s done in moderation!!
Fixed.
“Hey leland, looks like if you don’t pay your fine you can get 3 squares a day!!”
president tluck, This would be a shame to waste tax dollars and put me and other people who cannot afford insurance in the slammer. The death penalty is far better.
Things would just be worse for me after doing time. It would be even harder to find work. I would almost certainly end up as a repeat offender.
The death penalty solves the problem. Why torment people? Just do the final solution.
“Dan, I agree with D2″
Thanks D.J., I remember you having concerns about your sister working at the Mall of America with Minnesota’s new lonk to Islamic terror. I hope she stays safe.
“excellent article d2. eloquent and to the point.”
Thanks Stevek, that guy really hit the nail on the head.
Hey Greg, you said something about GO being gone for a while, what’s up with that? He and Leland are the funniest people on this blog, and I hope he returns soon.
“The dude was a nutcase that happened to be Muslim.”
More liberal denial.
This would be a shame to waste tax dollars and put me and other people who cannot afford insurance in the slammer. The death penalty is far better.
leland, You are one of those rare visionaries that can see the bottom of the slippery slope…..
From the top of the slippery slope.
“More liberal denial. ”
No, it’s truth based on what has been communicated vs. extremists trying to make another extremist look bad …
How do you know he was a terrorist?
How do you know he was doing this in conjunction with a terrorist organization?
How do you know this was an event based upon the will of a terrorist organization?
Are all muslims terrorists?
And by the way, your ‘evidence’ was nothing but an opinion column ..
that’s not proof, that’s opinion.
So where’s the evidence?
“Are all muslims terrorists?”
No, thank God. But a disturbing percentage of that population is, and we’ve even seen many Muslim immigrants in Minnesota with ties to Islamic terror.
Is this a lie too Greg?
“Is this a lie too Greg? ”
What percentage of muslims are terrorists?
What is ‘disturbing’?
‘Many’ implies a majority. Are the majority of muslims terrorists?
And you’re ignoring the rest of the questions which means you don’t want to answer because you know it’s going to make you out to be the liar you are ..
of course you’ll try some disinformation and misdirection to get out of it.
“‘Many’ implies a majority. Are the majority of muslims terrorists?”
No Greg. “Most” implies a majority.
I see you won’t answer the questions…
one thing I’m confident of is that you’re not capable of telling the truth.
“How do you know he was doing this in conjunction with a terrorist organization?”
Since when do terrorists need to be registered with Al-Qaida to be qualified as terrorists?
You aren’t making much sense tonight Liberal Greg. You should stop making a fool of yourself.
‘fraid so.
Are you as sure now?
DAR, I’m having a very, very hard time believing it’s not at least a tie.
“Since when do terrorists need to be registered with Al-Qaida to be qualified as terrorists? ”
Now that speaks volumes to your actual knowledge of terrorism ..
specifically islamic terrorism.
Why aren’t you answering he questions?
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.-Thomas Jefferson
tj was the man !! ,,, sounds like an extremist though LOL
“tj was the man !! ,,, sounds like an extremist though LOL ”
I think he may have been ..
an extreme lesbian trapped in a mans body.
Here’s a good one as well Steve, and shows how Obama got elected.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”
an extreme lesbian trapped in a mans body.
The pain of of being an extreme lesbian trapped in a mans body, leads to…….
“specifically islamic terrorism.”
More liberal extremist denial.
I answered your questions Liberl Greg, what else do you want to know?
Why aren’t you answering he questions?
Because Dtroll is, as Dtroll does.
I have to agree with Greg here. I too am a lesbian trapped in a Man’s body.
Where we part ways though is his use of Gerbils for personal pleasure.
“I have to agree with Greg here. I too am a lesbian trapped in a Man’s body. ”
Most contributors of this blog would agree that you are not a lesbian trapped in a mans body D2 ..
you are however, a homosexual trapped in a mans body . .
extremely trapped.
“Most contributors of this blog would agree that you are not a lesbian trapped in a mans body D2 ..”
If it was put to a vote, Dtroll couldn’t win even with Acorn’s help!
What percentage of muslims are terrorists?
How do you know he was a terrorist?
“Greg, when German Americans invaded Nazi’s in WWII, American’s of German decent didn’t turn on their fellow American soldiers and kill them, NEVER!”
you never showed proof of that either .. but instead provided more misdirection ..
another lie perhaps?
If you can’t answer them with good solid proof then why not just say so?
Or would you rather lie about it?
New Think Again topic out!
“New Think Again topic out! ”
You still have homework on this one ..
sorry d, it is a pretty exclusive club…. as well as an international movement that cant be stopped.
“as well as an international movement that cant be stopped. ”
I believe the tshirts will be available in the next 30-45 days ..
New Think Again topic out!
Sigh… I don’t think I’d call it a “new” topic. Looks like we will have another week repeating the same old arguments.
“How do you know he was a terrorist?”
Oh I don’t know Liberal Greg, maybe his chanting of “Alahuh Akbhar” before his Jihadist massacre, just like the 9-11 Muslim terrorists did.
I believe the tshirts will be available in the next 30-45 days ..
It doesn’t take that long to ship from the middle east.
“Sigh… I don’t think I’d call it a “new” topic. Looks like we will have another week repeating the same old arguments.”
Maybe Evil Baby will come back for this one. That vote in Maine must have smarted!
“Oh I don’t know Liberal Greg, maybe his chanting of “Alahuh Akbhar” before his Jihadist massacre, just like the 9-11 Muslim terrorists did. ”
That’s not been proven.
Also, do you think that Christians have said something similar when going bonkers and killing?
It must be Greg’s bedtime. He seems to drop off just about now, just like me during the work week.
“That’s not been proven.”
More liberal denial.
Greg,
At least stay in this century when discussing religion.
Where’s the proof?
And what about the rest of the questions?
”
At least stay in this century when discussing religion. ”
I am ..
“Alahuh Akbhar”
That’s not been proven.
And it’s irrelevant to why he did it.
“And it’s irrelevant to why he did it.”
Even more denial!
In honor of the vote tonight on soci@list healthcare:
“Even more denial! ”
Nah, but your lies are stacking up D2.
D2 .. you still haven’t answered the questions ..
Nah, but your lies are stacking up D2.
It’s tough being a paid provocateur.
Ya gotta wonder ..
should a habitual liar be allowed to be a parent before a gay couple?
then again, considering D2’s both ..
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