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Farewell, readers, to a memorable journey

January 12th, 2009 – 9:23 AM
This is my last metro-state column for the Star Tribune. It’s the end of a journey I’ll remember always.

I’ve met people in whom the human spirit burns bright. One was a 23-year-old Korean pianist who, through relentless practice, dazzles audiences around the world. Her dancing hands play intricate Chopin impromptus, though each hand has only two fingers.

Another was a Circle Pines woman who wasn’t content to send flowers and a get-well card when the young son of a co-worker fell dangerously ill. Instead, she chose to give him life itself — one of her own kidneys.

I’ve met Salvation Army workers whose love for others leads them out on subzero nights, searching for seemingly hopeless lives to resurrect. I’ve come to know courageous men and women in our armed services who sacrificed their own convenience to defend our nation and its ideals — with their lives, if necessary.

I’ve come face to face with tragedy. In the process, though, I’ve learned of stories beyond the sadness — stories of profound inspiration.

I wrote about one young man who lost his life in a car accident four days after his 26th birthday. His few years on Earth had been filled with such remarkable generosity of spirit that his funeral in Marshall, Minn., was moved to a university gym to accommodate all who wanted to attend.

Another man — an artist — was taken in his prime, losing a 20-year battle with a painful chronic disease. He learned to overcome suffering by embracing beauty wherever he found it.

I recall seeing him once, his car pulled off by the side of the highway. He was racing about, snapping photos of a brilliant sunset. Passing drivers gawked, but he was oblivious — riveted on capturing this fleeting but magnificent burst of color.

I’ve tried to tell the stories of people such as these. In other columns, I’ve sought to articulate truths that lie at the foundations of our lives. These “first principles” do not always align well with the cultural and political fashions of our time. But it’s precisely in such times that a vigorous defense of them is required.

I won’t try to summarize these principles here. Instead, I’ll mention a few near the top of the list.

One question I’ve explored is the source of human happiness, which often seems just beyond our grasp. Again and again, I’ve seen that those who find happiness do so by rejecting self-absorption and helping others to carry their burdens.

As contemporary Americans, we often look to others — including government — to make us happy, and blame our unhappiness on the unjust actions of others.

But Samuel Johnson, the great English man of letters, knew that life is more complicated:

How small, of all that human hearts endure

That part which laws or kings can cause or cure.

Still to ourselves in every place consigned,

Our own felicity we make or find.

A second truth: The family is the foundation of all other human institutions and endeavors. It has rightly been called “the seedbed of virtue.” No government program, no matter how extravagantly funded, can replace it. No school, however good its curriculum or faculty, can teach the life lessons that a loving father and mother can convey.

A strong family is one of the surest ports in any storm. When the institution of the family disintegrates, men and women suffer, and children pay the heaviest price of all.

In the end, however, we will always struggle with self-absorption, since that is the human condition. Our families will always fall short of the ideal, and will sometimes crumble. Yet we still have reason to hope that a good God will lift our broken hearts and offer us peace that “passes all understanding.”

312 Responses to "Farewell, readers, to a memorable journey"

GO saha says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:47 am

So if this is it, then what was up with the “talking to the folks upstairs” talk?

Rabbit says:

January 12th, 2009 at 10:12 am

I’m guessing the ‘folks upstairs’ are too ’self-absorbed’ to realize that massive cuts in staff actually hurts good customer service.
Kinda like when you go to a restaurant or club and there’s one waiter in the whole place. Or when you try to call your cellular company and they have cut employees so badly, that you wait on hold for two hours.
Good Luck Ms K. This was a fun way to have decent debates.

tb 77 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 10:29 am

Thank you for your writing, KK! I will miss reading your column. Good luck!

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 12th, 2009 at 10:46 am

The family is the foundation of all other human institutions and endeavors.

Absolutely. Where I part company with you, Katherine, is the idea that families have to look a certain way to count, as you imply by saying, “No school … can teach the life lessons that a loving father and mother can convey” (emphasis added).

A strong family is one of the surest ports in any storm.

This is as true for families headed by same-sex couples as it is for families headed by opposite-sex couples.

When the institution of the family disintegrates, men and women suffer, and children pay the heaviest price of all.

I agree – but I do not agree that families headed by same-sex couples are a cause of family disintegration. Strong, loving families headed by same-sex couples actually help keep the institution of the family stable, whether or not they are recognized by the government.

No government program, no matter how extravagantly funded, can replace it.

And lack of government recognition will not keep same-sex couples from forming strong, stable, loving families and raising open-minded, well-adjusted children who will contribute to our society’s future.

Katherine, I hope your blog will continue even if your metro-state columns will not. Please keep us posted about your future endeavors.

dubble_a_ron says:

January 12th, 2009 at 11:10 am

Your highlight reel left out:

1. Consistently casting aspersions on members of the Party you don’t like.

2. Sowing seeds of mistrust in your community.

3. I was about to list sanctimonious finger-wagging, but it can be inferred from your last couple of paragraphs so I’ll grant you that.

dubble_a_ron says:

January 12th, 2009 at 11:25 am

Almost forgot,

4. Providing leftist high school composition teachers with prime examples of fallacious reasoning, allowing them to simultanously educate their students about writing rhetoric while furthering their subversive mission of discrediting the Right.

But…
Even if your typical column makes me want to spit vituperation,

Good luck with the next gig, whatever it may be.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

Wow .. it looks as though everyone bailed on the last hurrah.

Best wishes to you KK and thanks for hosting.

I’m guessing there won’t be an alternate plan by the looks of it.

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
Ill never look into your eyes…again

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times; it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness; it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity; it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness; it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair; we had everything before us, we had nothing before us; we were all going directly to Heaven, we were all going the other way.”

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

Well folks, it was good times. Kind of a dead last day. I’ll just assume everyone was waiting for me to start commenting. And…. GO.

GO saha says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.”

GO saha says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

I’ll lumber over to the Big Q occasionaly to speak my peace. I wonder if they have an executioner over there?

Anyone up for Hotdish?

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

“Anyone up for Hotdish?”

The tomato kind or the stuff with the cream of mushroom soup.

And none of that prissy low fat hamburger either ..

mthalo says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.”

Best post of the day.
I like bloody endings

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

Hey Mark, have you been to the Pavek Museum of Broadcasting? I think you’d like it. It is a very interesting collection of old radios, amplifiers, telegraph machines, teletypes, broadcast cameras, etc. I figured you’d like the old radios and speakers and such.

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

Anyone up for Hotdish?

I’m on a diet.

GO saha says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

“The tomato kind or the stuff with the cream of mushroom soup.”

If hotdish was a super hero, Tuna Hotdish would be The Incredible Hulk.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

Today is tuna hotdish day? Ya mean with chunks of potato chips on the top for garnish?

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

I hate Tuna.

mthalo says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

Wow, 207 comments for this column, most of them from angry liberals.

That’s why I can’t be a hardcore liberal, waking up outraged and going to bed outraged if no way to go through life.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

Hey GO .. KK sent me an email and told me she’s gonna miss you the most.

GO saha says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

Old Dutch potato chips!!!!!! Do they still make them? Man thats gotta be the biggest thing I miss from Minnesota. That and the tours of the spam factory.

GO saha says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

“Wow, 207 comments for this column”

I only see 23. where are you lookin

Katherine says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

Thanks, everyone. I’m still in discussions with the paper about continuing Think Again and writing a weekly column on the op-ed page as an outsider. These things take time.

I will keep you posted, and thanks for your good wishes.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

“That’s why I can’t be a hardcore liberal, waking up outraged and going to bed outraged if no way to go through life.”

Me either. See, it seems like those hippie girls liked the hair under the pits going on. I just can’t deal with that.

I like being a moderate. If I were a single moderate then I could find hippie chicks who liked to shave their pits but I’d also be up for a cowgirl every now and again.

GO saha says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

“Hey GO .. KK sent me an email and told me she’s gonna miss you the most.”

Really she did? Don’t tease me man. Don’t be cruel.

mthalo says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

The 207 comments are on the culumn published on the regular site, not the blog.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

“I will keep you posted, and thanks for your good wishes. ”

Your welcome, but are they gonna keep this open? Should we keep writing stuff here and come up with our own ideas (I know we could ..) or should we go over to the Biq ? and drive them up a wall.

Please tell Ms Katherine … do we HAVE to eat the bad hotdish?

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

“Really she did? Don’t tease me man. Don’t be cruel. ”

Really .. no kiddin’ injun. And ya know what else?

She didn’t say a word about Tiny.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

“Thanks, everyone. I’m still in discussions with the paper about continuing Think Again and writing a weekly column on the op-ed page as an outsider. These things take time. ”

Okay .. I read between the lines.

She’s asking us to get the tank out and unleash the naked cannibal polar bears.

KK needs help negotiating… I know that’s what it means.

Guys .. we can do this.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

Katherine, I don’t always agree with your “opinions” however you do cause me to “Think Again” and I will miss you. The powers that be must have their collective heads up their butts.

I find it interesting that those that are posting on the regular site we don’t see around here. Not enough guts to step into the trenches I would guess. Mindless twits most (not all) are.

mthalo says:

January 12th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

“See, it seems like those hippie girls liked the hair under the pits going on. I just can’t deal with that.”

It gave them a violent look, like they were holding Buckwheat in a headlock.

I believe most of them mowed the pits and entered treatment after Jerry Garcia died.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

“It gave them a violent look, like they were holding Buckwheat in a headlock.”

Ha! Very discriptive and applicable.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

Where’s Tiny?

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

“Where’s Tiny?”

As one of my favorite uncles would say ..

‘If he were up your @ss you’d know’

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

“I believe most of them mowed the pits and entered treatment after Jerry Garcia died.”

Apparently, many of them moved to Buffalo .. the Davis addition specifically and/or next door to Tiny.

There wasa sighting of some in Big Lake, but as it turns out it was only a group of cross-dressers…they hadn’t mowed their pits.

mthalo says:

January 12th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

“Where’s Tiny?”

The cardiac rehab spec1alist forgot to shut off CNN before starting him on the treadmill this morning. The resulting explosion of the heart monitor left Tiny in a daze, and he walked out.

They’re looking for him now.

Either that, or he’s calculating how many of Chef’s chocolate salty balls he can have before reaching his sodium limit.

tluck says:

January 12th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

“They’re looking for him now.”

He’d be the guy walking down the street mumbling. Except for the occasional BvLLSH!T!!!

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

“Either that, or he’s calculating how many of Chef’s chocolate salty balls he can have before reaching his sodium limit.”

HAAAA!!!!

I can’t even comment on that other than I could just here D2 screaming ..

‘Save some for me!!!’

mthalo says:

January 12th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

If they catch one whiff of patchouli in Big Lake, the .454 Casulls come out.

“Oh, sorry, I didn’t recognize you with the long skirt on.

It’s usually much shorter”

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

“… Big Lake, the .454 Casulls come out.”

Reason nbr 2 never to visit Big Lake.

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

im gonna miss your articles kk.
to be truthfull, i really didnt read them very often, i just liked to make comments to hassle those who take themselves too seriously.
its been a great ride since i picked up your link up and got to know my beloved blog friends.
oh well, all things do pass.
good luck, and always remember the words of a great radio host.”Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder.”

Hey , I think I found my CAP key !!!!!

mthalo says:

January 12th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

“always remember the words of a great radio host”

That radio host is a flaming, raging liberal off the air.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

“If he were up your @ss you’d know.”

“Apparently, many of them moved to Buffalo..the Davis addition specifically and/or next door to Tiny.”

Wow, Greg, thanks for your input man. Colorful as usual and poetic. Incrediable use of words. Impressive.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

“Wow, Greg, thanks for your input man. Colorful as usual and poetic. Incrediable use of words. Impressive.”

I’m blushing.

Maybe we should do coffee!

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

“That radio host is a flaming, raging liberal off the air. ”

well, then its great schtick, and still an acurate pronouncement.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

“Maybe we should do coffee!”

Well with Tiny up my @ss it might be crowded….

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

forgive me AW, dont take this the wrong way, im just seeking clarification.

are you suggesting that if you do coffee with g63, with tiny already up there, you anticipate the possibilty of more, uh, traffic in that direction ?? and it will therefore be crowded ??

tiny litess says:

January 12th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

“The cardiac rehab spec1alist forgot to shut off CNN before starting him on the treadmill this morning. The resulting explosion of the heart monitor left Tiny in”

They got the mute thing on with the dialog on the screen. I’ll be honest I have a hard time keeping up. Guz once you screwed up, like when a big word comes along and you stumble and then….they’re on the next story.

tiny litess says:

January 12th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

“Obama preparing to issue an executive order his first week in office — and perhaps his first day — to close Gitmo… ”

Close Gitmo before getting rid of the “Don’t ask don’t tell”

JonR kind of shows Ya where you stand with the Democrats.

Maybe the second term so make sure you vote for that anti-gay marriage, rick warren lovin’, no open gays in the military Obama.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

Steve…Steve…Steve…

What does a girl say to that…hmmm…well, it seems that many months ago I made a comment about being openminded towards sex and be adventurous….well, no it seems that certain people (we won’t name names here, right GO?) think I am all for @nal sex (I’m not personally), if that’s what people like (I don’t) then more power to them.

Anyway, I was just making a comment in response to a previous post by Greg. I do suppose anyone can take it how they would like.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

“are you suggesting that if you do coffee with g63, with tiny already up there, you anticipate the possibilty of more, uh, traffic in that direction ?? and it will therefore be crowded ?? ”

That would be like having your group in the p00p vs. having your p00p in a group yes?

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

Well THAT comment was worded, placed and set wrong it seems.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

I miss leland.

Tube sock woman has to be tired of him by now….

Please release him, let him go…

tiny litess says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

AmericanWoman says “think I am all for @nal sex”

See we’re going to lose the archives here but I remember you saying something about “don’t knock it until” or something.

I know when someone mentioned you that the first thing that comes to my mind…you know uh…to be honest.

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

This would be an AWESOME concert to be at. I want to go to a concert overseas sometime when there’s 50,000 people there.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC2mwrC86EQ&feature=PlayList&p=E6B09C9B38EF8BBE&index=4

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

Tiny, tried it many, many, many years ago and learned…I DON’T LIKE IT!!!

I’m just saying that people shouldn’t knock something they haven’t tried, be adventurous…life is too short.

iamme says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

I stand in line this long and then the hotdish is all gone?

Anybody making more hotdish?

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

its ok AW, i dont judge ones personal pursuit of happiness

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

I was going to out someone on this blog, but I decided that wouldn’t be nice. But here’s a hint. His initials are G.O.

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

sob,…… and to think, thats one of the nicer things anyone has ever said to me. thanks GO, that means alot coming from you … and if you can find tiny , stick him up you @ss … seeya.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

Wow, it seems GO is sexualy frustrated…

We all know this sucks GO…get a grip and tug.

GO saha says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

“… and if you can find tiny , stick him up you @ss … seeya.”

I would butt I think him and American woman have something going on.

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

“I would butt I think him and American woman have something going on. ”

thats the rumour

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

Seems someone skipped his nap.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

“I would butt I think him and American woman have something going on. ”

I’ll second that.

Motion carries.

Okay .. tater tot hotdish time.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

So .. it seems there’s not a big wecoming party over at the Biq Q.

I’ve brought up masturb@tion in hopes it would stimulate some thought. It’s not. But I’ll keep trying.

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

“I’ve brought up masturb@tion in hopes it would stimulate some thought. It’s not. But I’ll keep trying. ”

hate to point this out g, but “thought” is not the object of stimulation when you masturbate.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

I’m logged in as AW? Wow! FVCK ME!!!!

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

“hate to point this out g, but “thought” is not the object of stimulation when you masturbate.”

See, they didn’t get that yet.

I’m doing an IQ test.

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

“See, they didn’t get that yet.”

it seems i have discovered it does make for slower typing.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

“it seems i have discovered it does make for slower typing. ”

Imagine if you were bi. You’d have a veritable playground. You’d never type….and you’d probably hang around dude restrooms in MSP international .. alot.

Did you understand that episode where cartman thought he was a lesbian? I certainly did.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

Stevek is buzzing off

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

“So .. it seems there’s not a big wecoming party over at the Biq Q. ”

they dont seem very warm and fuzzy. itll take a little work, but im confident we can break them in.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

“I’ve brought up masturb@tion in hopes it would stimulate some thought. It’s not. But I’ll keep trying.”

Good one Greg! Dora must have had her undies in a bundle.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

Katherine,

I will miss reading your column and I wish you the best! Hopefully you will keep a blog going if not this one.

Thanks for the great topics you’ve brought up and expertly an@lyzed over the years.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

“I’m logged in as AW? Wow! FVCK ME!!!!”

Gee, Greg, you like me that much! Aaaw…thanks.

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

“Did you understand that episode where cartman thought he was a lesbian? ”

you insensitive clod, I AM a lesbian.

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

HA!

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

“you insensitive clod, I AM a lesbian. ”

Hey! Me too! But I’m in a dude body and stuff.

It’s really cool.

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

“Gee, Greg, you like me that much! Aaaw…thanks. ”

Cool .. ya know, you’re a good sh!t in the long run ..

but then again ..

who likes a long runny sh!t?

DOH!!

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

I’m going to peek in on the progress of the B? and see if I really want to lower myself to their level…

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

We’re finding out all kinds of things about people today. AW had it in the keister a while back and didn’t like it. Greg is a chick in a dude’s body. GO is coming out of the closet. D2 will always be a closet homosexual. Tiny can’t watch CNN without having a heart attack(who am I kidding, we knew that ages ago), stevek is a pervert.

Interesting day…

AmericanWoman says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

DJ…big SMOOCH! We love ya babe!

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

DJ .. it’s not so bad being a lesbian trapped in a dudes body .. really.

If you pretend, you dould do it to.

This is all GO’s idea.

Just go with it and look for the hot dish.

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

Greg, are you trying to get blog killed? Because you’re not doing a very good job. I would throw some more F bombs in there. Maybe a couple racial slurs. But, if that’s not what you’re trying to do, then never mind.

AW!! I refuse your smooch! You’re a married woman!! Are you a harlot? A lady of the night?

:)

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

So many things to do. I’ll be back in a couple hours. Dishes, dinner, shoveling, take out the recycling/garbages, making lunch for tomorrow… sighh…

Greg63 says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

DJ .. go do fun things.

You’re not an idiot either.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

“So many things to do.”

Tell me about it! I’ve got all that stuff to do plus I’m heading to Yuma, Arizona for work on Wednesday morning for a few days on business travel. Just found out about it today.

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

“and you’d probably hang around dude restrooms in MSP international ”

dont think i would. too much competition from the senate republicans.

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

You’re not an idiot either.

Shows how much you know…

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

“You’re not an idiot either. ”

dont even think about making these type of unstantiated claims about me.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

“Do your friends’ mommies know they’re hanging out with you and talking dirty?”
-adlib, The Big Question Blog

“geez, looks like the teenagers have taken over.”
-Dora, The Big Question Blog
politicalblogs.startribune.com/bigquestionblog/?p=1280

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

I’m sorry, but this is insane. Does this kid carry a charger around with her everywhere? LG could turn this into a commercial to show how easy it is to text from their phone.

www.nypost.com/seven/01112009/news/nationalnews/this_kids_a_text_maniac_149614.htm

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

“Do your friends’ mommies know they’re hanging out with you and talking dirty?””

i really do hope your other friends can do better than that d2. it wont be very much fun mocking and making fun of them if they dont have more game than that.

God says:

January 12th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

Yet we still have reason to hope that a good God will lift our broken hearts and offer us peace that “passes all understanding.”

Actually, you don’t. Therein lies the problem.

So long, Strib. Until Katherine returns, consider yourself Godless.

DJ says:

January 12th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

Nothing you could say could tear me away from my God, (my God)
Nothing you could do, ’cause I’m stuck like glue to my God, (my God, my God)
I’m sticking to my God like a stamp to a letter,
Like birds of a feather we stick together.
I’m tellin’ you from the start, I can’t be torn apart from my God.

Nothing you could do could make me untrue to my God, (my God)
Nothing you could buy could make me tell a lie to my God, (my God, my God)
I gave my God my word of honour to be faithful, and I’m gonna.
You best be believing I won’t be
deceiving my God.

See ya Odin.

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

“So long, Strib. Until Katherine returns, consider yourself Godless. ”

oh my !!!, promise ??? threat ??? statement confined to a single individual ?? or does it have a more divine meaning ??
thats pretty deep sheet ya goin there dog… alright , so i feel kinda bad, calling the guy dog and all, but god, thats kinda pompous wouldnt you say ?? well i dont really know him. maybe he thinkg it funny, like a humour thing .. or maybe he is just a big d&k. well what is it ? is he a pompous d*khed or just some leet lamer without humour despite his efforts . so whats it going to be god, dog, i know, charlie, thats deity and gender neutral, kinda.
hmmm …

yes may i help you ???

Average_Guy says:

January 12th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

Good luck KK, and so long everyone else. It’s been real and it’s been fun, but it hasn’t been real fun!

Average_Guy says:

January 12th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

P.S.
Not that it matters anymore, but you can call me Joe!

GO saha says:

January 12th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

“but you can call me Joe!”

Average Joe. I like that.

You can call me GO or

tomriggs
Minn_dakota
Hennepin
goble_warming
G.S.A.H.A.
burndown
UR_phoney
philthy sanchez
cannibal
slicker than snot
to change location
GO zilla
oh no
KK Kilt
Go again
Bruhahahaha
orygun
nosral
Go dirt

And of course GO saha.

Man, do I know how to have fun or what!!!!

stevek says:

January 12th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

philthy sanchez rules !!!!!
viva la filthy

mthalo says:

January 13th, 2009 at 10:13 am

“…tried it many, many, many years ago and learned…I DON’T LIKE IT!!!”

Like the bored looking hipster in the coffee house next to the U says in defense of communism;

You weren’t doing it right.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 10:35 am

“You weren’t doing it right.”

Hmmm, possibly. Although, not truly willing to take that step again.

Philthy Sanchez!!! GO! YOU PIG!!!

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 10:37 am

mt .. you need to go over to Big Q also .. they’re begging for us .. i can tell ..

dubble_a_ron says:

January 13th, 2009 at 10:41 am

GO,
In your list of handles you left out “bilirubin.”

mthalo says:

January 13th, 2009 at 10:48 am

I signed up there a while ago under a different username. With one post I managed to unite all the regulars against me.

I also found out that you can use nicknames, so my name might change with each post.

mthalo says:

January 13th, 2009 at 10:51 am

“Hmmm, possibly. Although, not truly willing to take that step again.”

I understand. My doctor recently said he wanted to do a prostate exam with administering morphine first. I weaseled out of it by have in convenient heart failure.

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 10:59 am

“I weaseled out of it by have in convenient heart failure.”

This is one procdure that D2 is convinced you need to do at least weekly….and sometimes using a weasel is okay.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 11:09 am

It was the @nal sepage…extreme tight fit…and awkward positioning at the time.

Just didn’t see what others saw but oh well, more power to ‘em.

I tried at least.

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 11:16 am

“I tried at least.”

AW,
my lady works in an ER and last month a guy came in with a Tabasco bottle stuck up his YaHoo. I’m talking a party size bottle. The biggest they make. Then his wife came in all POed because this was the 2nd time in 2 months.
I’d say that’s nastier than a philthy sancheze any day.

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 11:18 am

“In your list of handles you left out “bilirubin.””

I’m sure I’ve forgotten about 1/3 of them.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 11:24 am

I have a friend that works in the ER at a MPLS downtown hospital. She has told me stories about what people put in their orafices.

I think the funniest was about an elderly woman that came in and said she had a vine growing out of her v@gina. When they checked her, sure enough, there was a vine coming out of her v@gina.

It seems that at some point the elderly woman had gotten intimate with a potatoe and left it there long enough to sprout in that hot house effect.

Her response: “Now my good lord how did THAT get there?”

mthalo says:

January 13th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

“It seems that at some point the elderly woman had gotten intimate with a potatoe and left it there long enough to sprout in that hot house effect.”

Either that or she’s on a REALLY high fiber diet.

“my lady works in an ER and last month a guy came in with a Tabasco bottle stuck up his YaHoo. I’m talking a party size bottle.”

Was the cap on the bottle?
The kink factor doubles if the cap is removed.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

“The kink factor doubles if the cap is removed.”

Yea, and when it’s removed it has a p00p stopper!

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

Holy crap! Dudley DoRight is posting on that other Blog!

I have so many questions to ask him ..

DJ says:

January 13th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

Hmmm… how to contribute to this conversation? I’m really not sure I can.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

DJ, you called me a harlot and hurt me to the core.

Bass Turd!

mthalo says:

January 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

“Hmmm… how to contribute to this conversation? I’m really not sure I can.”

How would you like nice a baked potato with sour cream and cheese, zinged up with a few drops of Tobasco for lunch.

Do that make you feel as nauseous as I do right now?

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

“Do that make you feel as nauseous as I do right now? ”

Yes .. it qualifies as a claissic.

mthalo says:

January 13th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

There’s a neat little Tabasco gift shop in New Orleans.

I’d like to see the guy get this one up there.

*ttp://countrystore.tabasco.com/prodinfo.asp?number=00061

Actually, just hearing about it would be fine.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

nasty and yet tantalizing

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

So Greg, did you get your answers from Dudley?

Deacon Blues says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

Well, I decide to check on the blog while on vacation and this is what I find?

To all my blog friends, see you another time.

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

Mark ..

You need to stay on vacation.

Deacon Blues says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

Acapulco. I think Ill go have a bucket of Caronas. Yeah, thats the ticket. Have we decided on a blog to take over yet. Be sure to let me know.

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

The Big Q is not real happy about our presence .. at least mine anyway.

But it seems to work.

I think my brother is down there.

Look for a guy like me with short hair and very tipsy.

DJ says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

DJ, you called me a harlot and hurt me to the core.

I asked if you were a harlot. There’s a difference. It’s too bad Leland isn’t here to scold me, huh?

To all my blog friends, see you another time.

See ya Mark. Maybe catch you around the BQ. Have a good vacation.

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

AW .. I think so. So I responded.

I’m making lots of friends over there.

mthalo says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

There’s a lot of lost tabasco bottles over at the Big Question, but the KY still has the tamper proof seal intact.

Those guys are cranky.

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

“Those guys are cranky. ”

Ya think?

I wonder what’s making them that way?

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

Laxatives all around in the BQ.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

DJ, it was a motherly big smooch for you. When leland comes back around I know he’ll defend me and then want one for himself…ha, ha, ha

mthalo says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

“I wonder what’s making them that way?”

I’m going with your fluid backup theory.

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

Hey don’t cut the Big Q folks short. Right at this very moment I have them engaged in a civil debate about Cannibal Polar Bears…………well no one has actually responded….yet….but you wait…..they will and it will be very compelling. You’ll see, you’ll all see.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

GO, what plain of existance do you live on?

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

“When leland comes back around I know he’ll defend me and then”

Another name I forgot to add to my list.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

NOOOOOOO….it can’t be!!! Tell me it isn’t so!

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

“GO, what plain of existance do you live on?”

The Great Plains. Where the buffalo roam
Where the deer and the antelope play
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word And the skies are not cloudy all day.

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

Ms American Woman I can tell you that many of my international friends are wondering why American women are so big and frightening looking. Especially the question arises about Minnesota women.

It is more than just a bagel problem. It is because these women are not truly loved by men. If men could truly love them, they would not be so big and frightening.

It is sad that the mothers of these men teach their sons to be obedient to women and to be fearful of them. This is how it all it all perpetuates itself.

Do you understand the sequence of these events and their ramifications? I am very knowledgeable about American women.

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

“I am very knowledgeable about American women.”

Translation: When he says he’s fishing he’s actually doing the laundry or dishes.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

GO, YOU ARE NOT LELAND. You are a leland fraud. I will not believe that you are leland.

Grooowl

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

Ms American Woman,
I am deeply sorrowed that you do not believe it is me. I shall forever be devestated.

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

One would wonder if our invasion of the Biq Q would make the negotiations between KK and the upper echelon go more quickly?

Perhaps they’ll understand why it’s necessary to keep KK around as well as this blog space.

Perhaps ..

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

Okay .. the truth is that I’m really Leland8.

There, now you can have a really massive pity party…

..complete with bagels and all those tube socks you bought just in case.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

Growl, snarl….gnash

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

Ms American Woman your anger is a direct contradiction of your feelings for me. Perhaps to many bagel in my absence. Do you not remember our challenge of Mr G and tiny litess to a mud wrestling match at the annual Think Again blog summer picnic.

I was mad at Mr. G for chasing off my friend, aisha_saves, and for stealing my friend Michael Blaines name, and for an@ly harassing my beloved Ms AW.

Do you not remember?

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

“Growl, snarl….gnash ”

Someone’s a messy eater.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

GO, you and everyone else saw those posts.

AmericanWoman says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

iamme has lelands email address. She will verify for me.

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

I think we are witnessing the beginning of the GOgina monologues.

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

Ms. AW do you not see that it is me. Am I so hideous to your eyes that you can not bring yourself to look? Have I become grotesque to you?
I need consoling. I must seek out Irv. He is the only one I can turn to at this dire time.

DJ says:

January 13th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

GO, we all know you’re not Leland. Nice try though. Your writing style, even when trying to be Leland, is too different.

The only way you will convince anyone is if you log on as Leland8 and post.

DJ says:

January 13th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

Who is mirage over on the BQ? Is that you Mt?

GO saha says:

January 13th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

“iamme has lelands email address. She will verify for me.”

Ms AW let me assist you-
iammethinkagain@gmail dot com

Greg63 says:

January 13th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

Oh what a tangled web is weaved ..

HAAAA!!!!!!!!!

mthalo says:

January 13th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

“Who is mirage over on the BQ? Is that you Mt?”

Nope.

DJ says:

January 13th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

I swear it’s a Think Again blogger. Maybe not…

iamme says:

January 13th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

yep, that is my email address:

iammethinkagain@gmail(dot)com

stevek says:

January 13th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

i dunno, the other blog just doesnt seem to fit right, maybe i have to have it taken in at the waiste and hindquarters some.

Nancy Sinatras boots says:

January 13th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

Hello blog friends. I am coming back with a new user name. I will be tricky like Mr. G and Mr. 4blahs. No one will know who I am at first.

I am very saddened to hear that all of you will soon be dead. Only in the blog sense, but that is the only way I have known all of you. I don’t wish to be maudlin about this, but this is a great loss to me. I only have a few friends. Well, just one.

I have read the blog often when I was not posting, and have learned many things from my blog friends, as I always did before.

I have had some difficulties, trying to represent a new product, and also with health issues in my family. I don’t want to talk about that too much, as it is a source of great sadness for me.

I am ashamed to admit that I have been a bit down in spirit. This is a great disgrace to me, as God has blessed me so much it is incredible. My father passed away less than 2 years ago, and now there is more illness to contend with. I miss my father so much, but with all my many blessings it is still shameful that I am not in a happy spirit. This is out of character for me, to be this way.

I worry what would happen if my one friend (I won’t say his name, this would give away my identity too soon) passed away. I worry about this because I think his liver by now must be the size of a postage stamp.

I want all the blog friends (even those that don’t like me) to know I love and miss you.

I am sorry I have nothing much to say anymore. I am not funny anymore either. I thought some day I could make a comeback, but I have gone over the hill, like they say in sports.

I will tell you that I used to post here as leland8.

DJ says:

January 13th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

Nice try GO. A little obvious. If you were really leland, you should be able to log in as leland.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 13th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

Hi Leland!
How are Gunther and Irving doing?

GO saha says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:00 am

“I am sorry I have nothing much to say anymore. I am not funny anymore either.”

Gray skies are gonna clear up,
Put on a happy face!
Brush off the clouds and cheer up,
Put on a happy face!

Take off that gloomy mask of tragedy,
It’s not your style.
You’ll look so good that you’ll be glad ya decided to smile!

Pick out a pleasant outlook,
Stick out that noble chin,
Wipe off that full-of-doubt look,
Slap on a happy grin!

And spread sunshine all over the place, just
Put on a happy face!

Put on a happy face!

Put on a happy face!

And if you’re feeling cross and bickerish
Don’t sit and whine.
Think of banana splits and licorice,
And you’ll feel fine!

I knew a girl so gloomy,
She’d never laugh or sing,
SHe wouldn’t listen to me,
Now she’s a mean old thing!

So spread sunshine all over the place, just

citizenjane says:

January 14th, 2009 at 6:40 am

4blahs says:

December 28th, 2007 at 4:30 pm

Tanks = Leland

tanks2478 says:

December 28th, 2007 at 4:31 pm

Oh crap~! I’m busted

Greg63 says:

January 14th, 2009 at 7:19 am

www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=536049&catid=2

D2?

This you?

Can’t be .. it’s not a phallic symbol.

iamme says:

January 14th, 2009 at 7:27 am

Anyone notice that the Big ? is GONE?

Gone, as in no longer existing.

Greg63 says:

January 14th, 2009 at 7:30 am

I can still see it .. were you naughty?

politicalblogs.startribune.com/bigquestionblog/?p=1283#comments

DJ says:

January 14th, 2009 at 8:25 am

I see it too.

iamme says:

January 14th, 2009 at 8:48 am

Now it’s back.

It was gone at 7:27 this morning.

tiny litess says:

January 14th, 2009 at 9:07 am

we got some work to do over there boys. Wheres Mark I could use some help

DJ says:

January 14th, 2009 at 9:35 am

He’s on vacation. You’ll have to wait a couple days.

Greg63 says:

January 14th, 2009 at 9:38 am

Markie is on vacation ..

Deacon Blues says:

January 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am

Acapulco is lovely today. Tiny, Ill be back on Tuesday after MLK day. Ill be ready to do battle then. Im just too busy right now trying to do damage to my liver poolside. They do have an internet cafe in the resort, so Ill stop bye to see what the plan is.

DJ says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

The BQ is boring.

Rabbit says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

Won’t be boring if we all jump in there!

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

Awe DJ, don’t worry it may pick up. Nurture it. Water it. It will grow.

Rabbit says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

Does seem like they have a dress code, doesn’t it.
I feel like there’re some kind of pre-requisites of educational level and income. But, it’s the internet. We can be as cool as we want–or as honest as we want.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

Rabbit & DJ, Any blog can be informative and interesting to a point of colorful.

Let the words flow I say!

mthalo says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

“Does seem like they have a dress code, doesn’t it.
I feel like there’re some kind of pre-requisites of educational level and income.”

Pretentiousness is easily dealt with.

Tease them about being East/West coast intellecual wannabees that can’t afford to live in New York or San Francisco, and you’ll take care of the educational/income prereqs in one swoop.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

mthalo, good tip

Not to say your tip wasn’t good before.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

Wow, this blog is dwindling doooooowwwnn…

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

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iamme says:

January 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

Okay, where is Former Carrier and what have you done with him??

mthalo says:

January 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

“Not to say your tip wasn’t good before.”

I’m Jewish, I couldn’t tell you where the tip is.

I’m surprised the StarTribune is keeping the blog up.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

“I’m surprised the StarTribune is keeping the blog up.”

They’ve forgotten about us.

“Okay, where is Former Carrier and what have you done with him??”

He’s off with leland visiting the tube sock lady and eating bagels.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

This is a sad ending…

Don’t come knockin’ nobodies home….

tluck says:

January 14th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

“Okay, where is Former Carrier and what have you done with him??”

That could be my fault. I told him about freecell game 1941, one of the toughest there is. He really hasn’t been back since. I hope he’s not mumbling 1941, 1941, 1941 in some dumpster.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

FC..OC relived.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

iamme, have you heard from leland?

mthalo says:

January 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

I’ll remind everyone that this blog still exists.

#ttp://rudelystamped.blogspot.com/

Nobody has posted since November, but I just laid a few insults there to see if anyone’s still looking at it.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

“Most boring site on the internet”

“sending link to the Guiness World Records…”

“…whiner…”

Bad boy, bad boy what ya gonna do,
what you gonna do when they come for you…

DJ says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

I’m still here. We need a new column to rile up people like EBF, JonR, Downtown Dan, True Blue, ect. ect.

I thought EBF would be here more frequently now that he’s enjoying the good life.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

DJ, male?

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

Where are our regulars? They aren’t on BQ. Have they defected to another blog and not invited us? How dissappointing. I feel discriminated against in blog land.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

That’s the point DJ, EBF is enjoying the good life. Why tarnish it with our sorry @sses. Now that he’s a man of wealth and leasure he doesn’t need us for cheap entertainment.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

As far as JonR, Downtown Dan, True Blue, Average Guy, ect. ect….gasp, maybe they’ve outgrown us! Naw…

tluck says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

“Nobody has posted since November, but I just laid a few insults there to see if anyone’s still looking at it.”

It’s not invitation only anymore?

mthalo says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

I hope Downtown Dan didn’t freeze to death taking C02 measurments last night.

True Blue is probably in Washington for the inauguration. You have to get there early to get within panty flinging distance to the stage.

Jon R. is on a Higgins boat just off the coast of Iwo Jima.

Not sure about AG.

mthalo says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

It’s not invitation only anymore?

No sense sending out invitations to a party no one is attending.

Didaskalos says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

Grace and peace, Katherine. Hope to see your writing in other venues.

DJ says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

AW, are you asking if I’m male or asking about comments from the BQ? Are you blog crossing? Maybe this will be the forum where we can talk behind their backs like little kids.

iamme says:

January 14th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

AW, yes, leland8 emailed me yesterday. Email me at iammethinkagain@gmail(dot)com and I can tell you what he said.

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

DJ, I’m a blog crosser.

No, I was making the comment in (?) to your idea I was male.

I’m a kid at heart….teehee

AmericanWoman says:

January 14th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

Nancy Sinatra’s boots aka leland8 -

You don’t have to be funny or even amusing. Just stop by and say “Hi” so we know your there. If not here we will be at the “Big Question”.

P.S. I knew GO wasn’t you. Okay, he had me going for a nano second there.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 14th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

That’s the point DJ, EBF is enjoying the good life. Why tarnish it with our sorry @sses. Now that he’s a man of wealth and leasure he doesn’t need us for cheap entertainment.

I’m not quite gone yet, AW! moi’s attacks last week soured me a bit. Mark was right that he tends to lurk until I post, and then he launches a full assault against me. Clearly he is holding grudges. Apparently an apology made in my own way isn’t acceptable to him. He has found my apologies insufficient. Interesting that I’m man enough to offer them and move on, but he isn’t man enough to accept them and prefers to live in the past.

As for the “good life,” it’s turned out to be busier than I thought it would be. My time has been consumed with both job searching and studying, not to mention catching up on some projects that I’ve neglected for far too long. Much as I’d love to be a “man of wealth and leisure,” I’m not quite there yet!

Hopefully the Think Again blog will continue; I’m still holding out hope. And, of course, I’m at evilbabyfauvel@gmail.com if anyone wants to contact me.

annejohn says:

January 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

Katherine, I would definitely like to continue reading your stuff. In fact, your column was my favorite part about the StarTrib. Logical, clear thinking, well expressed. The reader comments often were vicious and unfair, so after awhile I rarely read them.

DJ says:

January 14th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

Hey Anne. You should have joined in the conversation. We always welcomed new voices.

Well, we usually welcomed new voices depending on what they said.

Nancy Sinatras boots says:

January 14th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Ms Katherine, I just wanted to say thank you for the blog and letting me participate. I am very sad that it is coming to an end.

Before I began posting, I had read your blog and the responses by the blog participants for some time. I had never posted to a political blog before and did not feel I could write as well as the people who posted here. I told my friend Irv about my dilemma. He began reading the blog. Finally Irv said “Leland, there are people who post there every day who are just as dumb as you.” This gave me the confidence I needed. After that, I began posting. I have never thought of anyone posting here as dumb, and as time went on, I didn’t think of myself that way either. My posts were okay. Some were funny, even when I wasn’t trying to be funny. Others thought that anyway.

I always wanted to apologize for stealing one of your old topic pages, and turning it into “Leland’s Love Blog”. I thought you were going to blog murder me for that, but you didn’t. If you would have done the blog murder, I would not have come back like Mr G does under new indentities. It would have bothered me for 10 years though, if I was banned by your blog. Ten years or when I die which ever would come first.

I was mad at you at first for some of the things you said about Muslims. As I read more I liked you very much. I learned to “think again” about many things. Sometimes I would post comments, and I had not even thought one time, much less twice. Writing and posting helped me to think about things.

I think you are a very respectable woman. It is a great blessing from God, for your husband to have you as his wife. Not every man has had such a great blessing. He should be very thankful. I am sure he must be.

Ms Katherine, I understand that there are arguments against your positions, but I think the attacks on you personally have gone way too far. You are strong I am sure, but to hear these attacks constantly must soon be difficult.

I am still angry at that Beneke guy who posted such awful stuff about you. I do not get angry at other blog participants almost ever, but he went too far. You are very beautiful and do not have a witches nose like Beneke said. Maybe a little bit, but nothing to worry about.

I pray that God continues to bless you and that whatever path you choose, will be a success for you.

Regards, leland8

Nancy Sinatras boots says:

January 14th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

DJ, I hope we can talk again sometime soon. I read the nice comments you have made about me. You were always a great blog friend. Ms AW too. I could think of so many people I have missed. I can’t name them all now but it is a very long list. I hope yand I can be in touch on this blog or another.

I had to change my user name, because I broke my computer when I fixed it. I cancelled my internet service at that point. I lost my email account and could no longer log in as leland8. I will explain the new user name when I get the chance. I have never used any name but leland8 and Nancy Sinatra’s boots. I am not Ms tanks like citizenjane says. Ms tanks is very funny and did a great leland impersonation while using her own name.

DJ says:

January 14th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

So GO, I guess you really are Leland. Wow. Guess you had everyone fooled.

tiny litess says:

January 15th, 2009 at 11:24 am

What a bunch of babies over there..hey how about some help? Tinys riddin’ point over there and has his nads hanggin’ out.

Lets Go

DJ says:

January 15th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

Tiny, I think you need to take it easy over there. You are coming off as another D2 who sees everything through Rep glasses. Maybe stop calling them morons and explain yourself a bit better. Calm down and take care of your heart.

Greg63 says:

January 15th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

“What a bunch of babies over there..hey how about some help? Tinys riddin’ point over there and has his nads hanggin’ out.

Lets Go”

Is this a call to arms for KK’s hero’s?

Is this Tiny playing Clint?

I get to drive the tank.

Greg63 says:

January 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

“Maybe stop calling them morons and explain yourself a bit better. Calm down and take care of your heart.”

Don’t do this! What the hell else is supposed to make us laugh and keep us warm!

Besides ..

..he’s on a roll.

tiny litess says:

January 15th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

“Tiny, I think you need to take it easy over there. You are coming off as another D2″

They will find out I’m not after I…after I….give them the Tiny Treatment

tluck says:

January 15th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

Lets Go”

Trying to get there but my new password must be getting stuck in the spam filters

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 15th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

Katherine,

Thank you. I look forward to seeing where you pop up next.

Greg63 says:

January 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

Some of those people at BQ are not very understanding.

At least that’s what I’m finding out.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

EBF

AW! moi’s attacks last week soured me a bit.

Quit whining - be a man.

Mark was right that he tends to lurk until I post, and then he launches a full assault against me.

No. I post whether you are on the blog or not. (You were not posting last week when I was giving Mark sh!t) Quit trying to think that you are somehow the center of my attention. You are not. (It is so like your kind to always be a drama queen.)

However, I will say this; I do hammer on you for two reasons.

One, you have the easiest buttons to push on the blog. So when you are on the blog I do like to push your buttons, it is fun.

Second, you hammer on Katherine (just like today) but cannot take the hammering when it is done to you. So I continue to hammer you to point out your hypocrisy.

Clearly he is holding grudges.

I am not holding a grudge, never had one in the first place. What you post on this blog has no consequence other than entertainment in my life. Also, I find it hypocritical of you that you post something that supposes something about me when you chastise me and others for doing the same thing to you.

Apparently an apology made in my own way isn’t acceptable to him. He has found my apologies insufficient.

I do not care either way if you apologize or not. But to be clear, I posted that I wanted you to apologize or question your lack of apology, to watch you wrangle with that apology. That was absolutely hilarious.

Interesting that I’m man enough to offer them and move on, but he isn’t man enough to accept them…

Whether you are “man enough” is yet to be seen. You have continually shown on this blog that you are not definitely NOT “man enough”. If you were ‘man enough’, you could take the crap I was giving you in fun and give some back (like GO does and like Mark use to). But, alas, you don’t. You take everything so personal it would be pathetic if it wasn’t so funny. That’s not being a man; that is being a whiny fifth grader at recess that runs to the playground monitor every time you feel slighted. To that I say – grow up.

and prefers to live in the past.

You, EBF, are the one still living in the past. You are still reacting like you probably did on the school playground when other kids teased you or made of fun of you.

By the way, you are still not taking responsibility. Just look at your first line in your post – you stayed away because I soured you. What a joke!

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 15th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

CRAP Better?

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

EBF

AW! moi’s attacks last week soured me a bit.

Quit whining - be a man.

Mark was right that he tends to lurk until I post, and then he launches a full assault against me.

No. I post whether you are on the blog or not. (You were not posting last week when I was giving Mark sh!t) Quit trying to think that you are somehow the center of my attention. You are not. (It is so like your kind to always be a drama queen.)

However, I will say this; I do hammer on you for two reasons.

One, you have the easiest buttons to push on the blog. So when you are on the blog I do like to push your buttons, it is fun.

Second, you hammer on Katherine (just like today) but cannot take the hammering when it is done to you. So I continue to hammer you to point out your hypocrisy.

Clearly he is holding grudges.

I am not holding a grudge, never had one in the first place. What you post on this blog has no consequence other than entertainment in my life. Also, I find it hypocritical of you that you post something that supposes something about me when you chastise me and others for doing the same thing to you.

Apparently an apology made in my own way isn’t acceptable to him. He has found my apologies insufficient.

I do not care either way if you apologize or not. But to be clear, I posted that I wanted you to apologize or question your lack of apology, to watch you wrangle with that apology. That was absolutely hilarious.

Interesting that I’m man enough to offer them and move on, but he isn’t man enough to accept them…

Whether you are “man enough” is yet to be seen. You have continually shown on this blog that you are not definitely NOT “man enough”. If you were ‘man enough’, you could take the crap I was giving you in fun and give some back (like GO does and like Mark use to). But, alas, you don’t. You take everything so personal it would be pathetic if it wasn’t so funny. That’s not being a man; that is being a whiny fifth grader at recess that runs to the playground monitor every time you feel slighted. To that I say – grow up.

and prefers to live in the past.

You, EBF, are the one still living in the past. You are still reacting like you probably did on the school playground when other kids teased you or made of fun of you.

By the way, you are still not taking responsibility. Just look at your first line in your post – you stayed away because I soured you. What a joke!

DJ says:

January 15th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

EBF:Mark was right that he tends to lurk until I post, and then he launches a full assault against me.

MOIQuit trying to think that you are somehow the center of my attention. You are not.

Good job MOI. You sure proved EBF wrong…

mthalo says:

January 15th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

MOI:
“ebf, ebf, ebf, e. b. f., E. b.f.,
e, B, F!, EBF
E.B.F., EEEEEE, BEEEEEE, EEEFFFFF! EBFEBFEBFEBFEBFEBFEBFEBF”

MOI’s wife:
“Honey, wake up! You were having that dream again”

Downtown Dan says:

January 15th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

I’m still here. We need a new column to rile up people like EBF, JonR, Downtown Dan,

I’m always riled up. But after 25+ years of freedom I started taking classes again this week (time to finish that technical degree). 12 credits. Ouch. Really cuts into my bloviating time.

I should hopefully acclimate by next week and start stirring the pot again.

DJ says:

January 15th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

Oh yeah? I’ve been out almost 7 years and just started a while ago. I remember now why I don’t have my degree yet. :)

I can’t imagine what it would be like to start again after 25 years. What kind of classes do you have to take?

By next week, it’s likely this blog will be gone. We’re congregating over at the BQ. We’ve created quite the uproar over there.

politicalblogs.startribune.com/bigquestionblog/

Greg63 says:

January 15th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

“MOI’s wife:
“Honey, wake up! You were having that dream again” ”

HAAAA!!!!

I thought it was him mom waking him up!

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 15th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

You were not posting last week when I was giving Mark sh!t

That’s right, “douchebag.” And then you went away and lurked until I posted here. You’ve done this before. I don’t believe it is coincidental.

So when you are on the blog I do like to push your buttons, it is fun.

Proof that you’re a blog bully.

Second, you hammer on Katherine (just like today) but cannot take the hammering when it is done to you.

Yes, I do hammer on Katherine. But I keep my hammering to the issues. I do not attack Katherine personally (all jesting about hairdos and rhino hides aside). And what I said “today” (it was actually Monday) was hardly “hammering.” It was a politely stated difference of opinion and not anywhere near as harsh as I am capable of being.

So I continue to hammer you to point out your hypocrisy.

What you see as my “hypocrisy” is not an apples-to-apples comparison because I attack Katherine’s opinions; you attack me personally. For “fun,” it seems.

I am not holding a grudge, never had one in the first place.

A lie. You held a grudge for weeks – maybe months; I honestly don’t remember – because I questioned your professionalism and stated a desire to defenestrate you. You were indignant until I apologized. FYI, I still have doubts about your professionalism. I believe you’re a former prosecutor because you were fired.

Also, I find it hypocritical of you that you post something that supposes something about me when you chastise me and others for doing the same thing to you.

I defend myself against false accusations composed of nothing but exaggerations, contorted and out-of-context claims, and dubious connections. Such as when you said my comment that “white people did enslave black people” was racist because I didn’t qualify “white people” with the word “some.” Your implication was that I myself am racist. When called on it, you backpedalled by nitpicking the difference between saying a statement is racist and saying a person is racist.

If someone implied that you were racist for nothing other than stating a historical fact, would you not defend yourself? Wouldn’t you think that your accuser deserved to be chastised?

As for implications I made about you, I honestly believe every one of them.

I posted that I wanted you to apologize or question your lack of apology, to watch you wrangle with that apology. That was absolutely hilarious.

I’m so happy you enjoyed your puerile entertainment. I will provide you with a little bit more by taking back the apology now. I “unapologize,” moi. Perhaps, in your honor, I will start a “Society Advocating Defenestration for Douchebags” (SADD).

You are still reacting like you probably did on the school playground when other kids teased you or made of fun of you.

Nope. Back then I just took what I got, including being beat up. I’ve learned to stand up for myself and to defend myself. Today I don’t let people bully me. Including you.

If you were ‘man enough’, you could take the crap I was giving you in fun and give some back (like GO does and like Mark use to). But, alas, you don’t. You take everything so personal it would be pathetic if it wasn’t so funny.

Yes, I did take things personally because I took things at face value. I took you seriously because that is how you presented yourself. At least that was how I interpreted your presentation here. There was nothing “fun” or “funny” about your bullying (except to you, apparently). It did not come across as friendly jabbing and ribbing because it was not presented in that context.

It is interesting that a person who admitted to lacking a sense of humor seems to delight in the humor exhibited mainly by boys in their early teens. So I’m sure you’ll take this as it was intended, moi:

                      / ” \
                    | \ . / |
                    |       |
                    |       |
                    |>~
                    |       |
              / ’ \ |        | / ’ \  . .
      / ~ \ |     |        |      |    \
     |      =[@]=      |      |     \
     |       |      |        |      |      \
     |   ~     ~     ~      ~  | `     )
     |                                     /
      \                                  /
       \                               /
        \         ____         /
         |—–/ / ’ ’ ` \——|
         |     ( ( +==) )     |
         |—–\_| _ / /—–|

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 15th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

I thought it was him mom waking him up!

It was. From his wet dream.

iamme says:

January 15th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

EBF, I LOVE the drawing. Very cool.

DJ says:

January 15th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

AHAHAHAHA!!! MOI, you just got BLOG BITCH SLAPPED worse than anyone I’ve ever seen!!

There’s no coming back from that. Game over.

EBF, way to send this blog off with a bang. I think GO would even be proud.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

AmericanWoman says:

January 15th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

WOW, EBF, Fantastic! You are creative! Incredible!

Have to agree with DJ on this one MOI, you definitely got Blog Bitch Slapped in a most impressive way I do have to say.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 15th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

Now that is funny. EBF has a little hissy fit right here. Now that is fitting (not only for EBF but his kind.)

EBF, yes I enjoy riling you up. You are funny. You are entertaining. And above all, you are so predictable.

Your retort obviously took hours. While I guess you have time since you were fired! We can all see why too. Who wants to work around some little baby, always complaining someone is mean and a bully.

DJ is right. I got SLAPPED by the BLOG BITCH. But unlike you, EBF, I am laughing my a$$ off right now.

“Unapologize” - classic. classic whiny little bitch behavior.

GO saha says:

January 15th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

AHHHHHHHH haahahahahhahahah hahhahahahahha *gasp* hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah *gasp* dizzy*gasp* ♪♫ la la la la la ♪♫ la la la la ♪♫ AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHahahhahahahahhahahhahhaahhahahhahaahqahhaa
the finger? How? Wha…. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahha
♪♫hm hm hm hm h m hm h mmmm h m h hm m mm mm ♪♫
AHHHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhahahahahahhahahhahahhahaahahahhhahahha

AmericanWoman says:

January 15th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

I don’t feel the love….

I would guess kissing and making up is out of the question also.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

Now that is funny.

We finally agree!

And above all, you are so predictable.

No way you predicted my drawing….

Your retort obviously took hours.

Nope. But I’m not sharing my secrets.

While I guess you have time since you were fired!

Oh, I’ve had this one waiting in the wings for months!

DJ is right. I got SLAPPED by the BLOG BITCH.

And damned hard, too! Hee hee hee…!

But unlike you, EBF, I am laughing my a$$ off right now.

I’m laughing pretty hard myself, moi. In fact, I think we’re all having a good laugh at your expense right now!

“Unapologize” - classic. classic whiny little bitch behavior.

Too bad I never got to push you out that window, moi. Now that would have been bitchy and fun!

Buh-bye, moi. Back to your wet dreams….

GO saha says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

“And above all, you are so predictable.”

Perdictable?
Comon, Markunt Face of Diarrhea, whats so predictable about the EBF Finger of death.
Legendary!!!!
It will go down into the an@ls of blog history. (no pun intended).

Markunt Face of Diarrhea has been OUTED!!!!

Greg63 says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

EBF …

THAT was cool.

AmericanWoman says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

leland8 -

In blogland you are my guy, my guy…talking about my guy.

Contact iamme, she has a message for you.

Even though my husband is my one and only in the real world, you bring me joy. Whether you are happy or not. I appreciate who you are.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

Come on GO
That’s all you got!

Greg63 says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

Markunt Face of Diarrhea will NEVER be able to stay up late enough on a school night to redeem himself on this one.

HAAAAAAAAAAA

This is classic.

GO saha says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

“Come on GO
That’s all you got!”

Yes. There are bigger fish to fry on the Big Q and we may need your nit picking, back sliding, weaseling talents there.

Markunt Face of Diarrhea. Ahahhahhahahhahahhahahahha

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

I was just there. What is with those people. And where is Dick - I mean richard.

DJ says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

MOI - It’s over. You lost. Sorry man, but there’s nothing you can do or say.

All I have to say is we have to respect the finger. There’s no stealing the blog finger and using it on other blogs unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.

That was awesome… I’m still laughing.

Best blog moment ever. Well done EBF. Well done. Have a drink on me.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

Speaking of The Breakfast Club.

EBF

Such a vulgar finger gesture from such a pristine lady.

Oh are you going to go away mad and pout now.

Can’t stay and play with the big boys?

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

ROTFLMAO….!

tluck says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

EBF breaks out the stash of pictorial CANS OF WHOOP A$$!!!!

Pure blog genius!!!

iamme says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

I’m still laughing. That drawing is great.

Downtown Dan says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

I can’t imagine what it would be like to start again after 25 years. What kind of classes do you have to take?

In my first go around in 1980 I was working on an aerospace engineering degree (AFROTC) and had hoped to fly for the USAF, but calculus kicked my @ss. I was originally only going back this time to learn AutoCAD because I’m sick of designing longhand on paper and I’ve been working with too many professionals who are all CAD fluent, and I ended up deciding to bite the bullet and go for a full assoc degree in Architectural Technologies. It was supposed to be part time but the instructor convinced me to keep up with everyone and take the full 12 credit load.

I still make shiny trinkets, but it’s not so busy these days and I had to either let one of my guys go and do most of the work myself, or keep myself busy with school. Glutton for punishment.

And speaking of… I stopped by the BQ a couple of times. Cripes, no wonder some people hate the left. What jerks. I’ll have some fun there though - it’s definitely a target rich environment.

DJ says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

Can’t stay and play with the big boys?

Yeah EBF, the big boys who resort to calling men “lady.”

I think MOI is a sore loser.

tluck says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

“I think MOI is a sore loser.”

I think he’s just sore. Burlap sheets have a way of doing that.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 15th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

All I have to say is we have to respect the finger. There’s no stealing the blog finger and using it on other blogs unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.

Easier said than done. If you know the secret, DON’T post it!

(Giggle, giggle…)

I think MOI is a sore loser.

You mean MFD? (GO, that’s SO funny! I’m LMAO!!!)

I think he’s just sore. Burlap sheets have a way of doing that.

(Even more hysterical fits of laughter…)

Rabbit says:

January 15th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

Awesome! EBF: Extremely Big Finger. That’s a true work of art!

Now, if you did that on the BQ blog, it would not be allowed, because the ring isn’t 2 carats, and the watch is not a Rolex or Patek Phillipe.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 15th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

Now come on EBF it is not that big of a secret. Any yahoo can give the finger. This type of art has been around for years…

                      / ” \
                    | \ . / |
                    |       |
                    |       |
                    |>~
                    |       |
              / ’ \ |        | / ’ \  . .
      / ~ \ |     |        |      |    \
     |      =[@]=      |      |     \
     |       |      |        |      |      \
     |   ~     ~     ~      ~  | `     )
     |                                     /
      \                                  /
       \                               /
        \         ____         /
         |—–/ / ’ ’ ` \——|
         |     ( ( +==) )     |
         |—–\_| _ / /—–|

Is that all you got?

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 16th, 2009 at 12:02 am

Well, MFD, the art has been around for a while, but you still have to know the secret to get it to display correctly online.

Buh-bye….

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 16th, 2009 at 12:20 am

Yes that ascii code is such a big secret. Don’t tell anyone about the  

Yes it is time to call it a night.

Feel free to leave me more art. It is always funny that you resort to whiny childish tactics instead of standing up like a man. Just more of the same from you.

BTW - I wish you did try and push me out a window. That would have been fun to watch your hubby piss and moan with you lying on the sidewalk and I getting off due self defense.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 16th, 2009 at 12:24 am

Oh of course the ascii code for space didn’t print out. What was I thinking.

For those of you paying attention at home - put these six characters together (take out the dash from inbetween &-n-b-s-p-; and you will force a space and be able to create a nice picture.

Have a nice night everyone.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 16th, 2009 at 12:25 am

Again these six characters will force a space

&-n-b-s-p-;

(remember to take out the dashes)

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 16th, 2009 at 12:36 am

Leave it to MFD to kiss and tell.

FYI, it’s not ASCII. It’s HTML.

citizenjane says:

January 16th, 2009 at 8:52 am

“it’s not ASCII. It’s HTML”

1. That’s not what the ASCII art dictionary and ASCII art websites all say.

2. this type of art is Old and Lame. Very old. As in, ‘I bought a 65″ flatscreen plasma so I can play ‘Pong’ with my Atari.

WTF? Where’s Tiny when you need him?

citizenjane says:

January 16th, 2009 at 8:58 am

*ttp://www.matarese.com/matarese-files/12372/ascii-middle-finger-with-watchring/index.html

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 16th, 2009 at 10:40 am

That’s not what the ASCII art dictionary and ASCII art websites all say.

The construct “ ” (non-breaking space) is HTML (which stands for Hyper Text Markup Language, the language web browsers interpret to render web pages). It is necessary to use this HTML construct to render two or more consecutive spaces in a web page because web browsers otherwise ignore subsequent spaces. But this construct works only for web browsers; if you type   anywhere not intended to be rendered by a web browser (such as in a Word document), you’ll get a literal “&nbsp” string instead of a non-breaking space character. (An aside: it is interesting that MFD didn’t know how to get “ ” to display without dashes.)

ASCII stands for “American Standard Code for Information Exchange” and is a standard used for displaying and printing individual computer characters, both those that actually display and those that don’t (such as line breaks). Not only is ASCII coded completely differently than HTML, it is much more universal in scope than HTML because ASCII characters are used throughout the computing world; HTML is used specifically by web browsers.

As for the art itself, you are correct, citizenjane, that it is originally ASCII art. I very well may have found it at the url you provided. I actually found several pieces of “middle finger” artwork; I chose this one because I thought it was the best.

This ASCII art piece, of course, had many consecutive spaces in it, and even after converting all of them to the HTML “ ” encoding entity, things did not line up. Most of my time with this art — still under an hour! — was spent figuring out exactly how many spaces to put between the characters of each line of the artwork so it would render correctly here on this blog. And how I did that will remain my secret for now.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 16th, 2009 at 10:47 am

this type of art is Old and Lame. Very old.

It’s the only art you’re going to get to display here on the blog. Old? Perhaps. Lame? Well, cj, we sure had fun with it last night!

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 16th, 2009 at 10:57 am

And how I did that will remain my secret for now.

What a namby pamby.

The secret is to go back to a previous days blog that is still on the startribune website (there are about 450 of them) and use the trial and error method. So if one went back to the blog on June 16, 2007, one could post almost anonymously repeatedly while one was trying to get it right.

Some secret EBF. You think you are so brilliant. But once again m, it is shown that you are not. Obviously, this is one of the reasons you were fired.

mthalo says:

January 16th, 2009 at 11:00 am

“this type of art is Old and Lame. Very old.”

It’s not the art that was impressive, it’s where it gut stuck.

Clear up to the watch.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 16th, 2009 at 11:24 am

Now back to our regularly scheduled flogging.

EBF

You either are a revisionist or have poor memory. Here is how it actually went down. You posted a racist statement. I called you on it. You flew off the handle and posted I called you a racist. I corrected you and pointing out that you posted a racist statement. I tried to exclaim the difference to you between being a racist and posting a racist statement but you were in such a little tizzy that you could not bring yourself to understand the difference (maybe I suppose you lack the intelligence to know the difference).

Nevertheless, I did break my own rule of not labeling a person based on what they post when it came to JonR. His comments were so outlandish and so far beyond the pale; there is little doubt he is what he posted. So I did call him a racist.

But I digress, back to EBF…where was I. Oh, you defending yourself. Right. like you could ever stand up to someone in person and defend yourself. You are the type of person who acts tough when it is anonymous, but if really confronted would run and cower. I bet you flip people off while driving but if they stop next to you, you won’t even look at them. I can just see it now, you flip someone off, they drive up next to, your ‘hubby’ screaming in the passenger seat, and you purposefully staring straight ahead praying silently to yourself that the other driver just goes away.

As for grudges, you still don’t get it. Most of what I do to you, is to get a rise out of you. And you fall for it every time! You are the one holding a grudge. I am the one having a blast.

As for attacking personally, that is mostly what you do, that is your style – whether it is Katherine or me or anyone else. And by the way, your attacking me personally started over the baby warehouse, if you don’t remember. I questioned your baby warehouse and you tried to make it personal with me. Then it progressed to gay marriage, when you attacked me for wanting to have laws voted on instead of ‘made’ by activist judges. (If you don’t remember that I am sure that you remember FC and others trying to correct you on what you thought I posted.) After that I made it a sport of pushing your buttons. I am still doing it and you are still falling for it.

As for your hypocrisy, that is all you post. Look at your last post – it is full of them. First you say you don’t attack Katherine personally then you say except for these few things. You also defend against people making implications about you but then imply things to others. I could go on and on but I am sure you get the point.

As for your credibility, or anything else you want to call it, on this blog; you have none. To think you ever did on this blog is ludicrous and self-aggrandizing. Just to be clear, no one who is posting anonymously has ANY credibility – including me – on this blog. I respect people like Greg, D2 and others because at least they have the balls to show us who they are.

In addition, you are predictable. I had a debate professor, who said that if you are ever in a debate with someone and they say FU (such as give them the finger) you have won the debate because they are no longer debating on the issue. One could predict that you would resort to something of this nature because your buttons are so easily pushed and you are so easily manipulated into losing a debate. (I suppose you could be intellectually challenged and could not win a debate anyway).

So have a nice day.

AmericanWoman says:

January 16th, 2009 at 11:25 am

As of this morning I still am having fits of laughter over the “finger”. Thanks EBF.

I came into work and the owner did a double take and said “What are you up to!?”, it seems the smile looked evil (imagine that).

MOI, I have asked you for advice in the past and you gave it. It was good sound advice and I appreciated it. This battle isn’t about me and I’m actually enjoying myself with the posts. CHARGE!!!

*note: I especially enjoy adversity when I’m not in the muck. However, I seem to be able to hold my own. If not I bow out as graceful as possible (which, admittidly isn’t very graceful at times).

citizenjane says:

January 16th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

If you had used a Commodore 64 and a dot matrix printer, I would have been impressed. But ok.

“it’s where it gut stuck-clear up to the watch”
Okay, that has some humourous value. Although no matter what Go says, I deny that I am into fisting.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

The secret is to go back to a previous days blog that is still on the startribune website (there are about 450 of them) and use the trial and error method. So if one went back to the blog on June 16, 2007, one could post almost anonymously repeatedly while one was trying to get it right.

This method would certainly work, and I’ve used it to figure out some of this blog’s forbidden words/letter combinations. However, for the picture this method would not only have been cumbersome, it also would have run the risk of someone stumbling upon the picture before I was ready to post it. I did not use this method for the picture. You will not find an instance of me posting it anywhere prior to 8:40 p.m. last night.

Remember, MFD, that I have spent the last five years as a web developer. I’ve learned a few tricks in that time, and some of them came in very handy while working on the picture. I don’t claim to be “brilliant” as you suggest, but you will either have to dig deeper or find someone more knowledgeable than you about web page design to discover my method.

As for being fired, I was laid off because I was a “temporary resource.” Temps and contractors are the first to be let go in tough economic times. My boss was very sad to have to let me go. You’ll be pleased to learn that I have many job prospects (and a few paying music gigs, including an appearance with the Minnesota Orchestra next month – as an extra section musician, not a soloist, of course.)

As for your long 11:24 a.m. diatribe, I merely skimmed it because it’s nothing more than yet another repeat of things you’ve said many times before. In any case, I have no intention of wasting any more of my time wondering whether you’re interested in a serious discussion or simply using me as a trinket of entertainment. Your days of cheap thrills off of me are at an end, MFD.

One last comment: If you think I won’t stand up for myself in person, you’re sadly mistaken. I am a transplant to Minnesota and do not subscribe to “Minnesota Nice.”

Good bye.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

EBF

I don’t claim to be “brilliant” as you suggest, but you will either have to dig deeper or find someone more knowledgeable than you about web page design to discover my method.

Here is a major difference between you and a normally adjusted person. A normally adjusted person, such as myself, recognizes that you are more knowledgeable in your professional area than I. On the other hand, you, EBF, a self-aggrandizing, egotistical, self-centered, drama queen, tries to tell and show others that you are more knowledgeable in their professional area. On this blog you have done that with the law. (Although you are not as bad as JonR.) You have repeatedly tried to come off as more knowledgeable than me in the law. I don’t particularly care that you do that (although some of your legal arguments are down right funny); I am merely pointing out where you are deficient and not normal.

As for being fired, I was laid off because I was a “temporary resource.”

You were fired. Period. Spin it anyway you want. You were let go, laid off, downsized, blah, blah, blah. But the simple fact is – they fired you. They no longer wanted you to work there. Period.

My boss was very sad to have to let me go.

Not sad enough to keep you. That should give you pause. Obviously, given your whiny, little boy, everyone-ones-me-a-living, don’t-discriminate-against-me, attitude; your boss tried to put on the best possible face to you so that you wouldn’t frivolously sue them for some ill-perceived and untrue slight.

Your days of cheap thrills off of me are at an end.

Maybe, but only because this blog is ending not because of any type of self-restraint on your part; you can’t help it, that is just the way you are.

If you think I won’t stand up for myself in person, you’re sadly mistaken. I am a transplant to Minnesota and do not subscribe to “Minnesota Nice.”

I have no doubt you will NOT stand up for yourself in person. It has nothing to do with Minnesota nice. It has everything to do with who you are as a person. You are tough when you are anonymous or protected but when out in the open and alone, you become a shrinking violet. When push comes to shove, you are the one running away.

Good bye.

Well at least until next time you post.

AmericanWoman says:

January 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

EBF, Minnesota Orchestra, whether you’re a soloist or an extra that’s something to be proud of. What an experience. I love adventures.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 16th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

EBF, Minnesota Orchestra, whether you’re a soloist or an extra that’s something to be proud of. What an experience.

I’ve been a substitute and extra musician for the Orchestra for a long time, and there’s nothing like being on stage with a group like them. It’s the most amazing experience. I’ve had a few terrifying moments – one or two solo passages I’ve had to play come to mind – but I can’t imagine that the high I usually experience when I play with them could ever be surpassed by anything. Being on the Orchestra’s sub/extra list is indeed my proudest accomplishment.

Greg63 says:

January 16th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

“I have no doubt you will NOT stand up for yourself in person. It has nothing to do with Minnesota nice. It has everything to do with who you are as a person. You are tough when you are anonymous or protected but when out in the open and alone, you become a shrinking violet. When push comes to shove, you are the one running away.”

And THAT is exactly how I’d describe you MOI.

Regardless of how wise you pretend to be I’m fully convinced you’re no more than a coward.

I can smell you …

tluck says:

January 16th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

I can smell you …

Smells like burnt burlap.

DJ says:

January 16th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

MOI - Taking pleasure in another person being fired? Flaunting it and taunting a person because of it is just shameful. You’ve acted like a real assho!e. Just thought someone should say it.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 16th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

DJ

Absolutely. I am reveling in the fact that EBF got fired. I am glad you noticed.

Just to point out – EBF brought up my leaving my job first, so I was returning the favor. (of course I left my job on my own volition – I wasn’t shown the door.)

Shameful? Assho!e? Is that all you got? Come on you can do better than that.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 16th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

Greg

I have no doubt that is how you would describe me. Especially, compared to you. You are obviously brave to have a myspace page like yours.

DJ says:

January 16th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

Shameful? Assho!e? Is that all you got? Come on you can do better than that.

Would you prefer I get personal?

tluck says:

January 16th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

Would you prefer I get personal?

I would!!

Greg63 says:

January 16th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

“You are obviously brave to have a myspace page like yours. ”

Not brave. Just willing to show my face.

I prefer to speak without anonymity ..

it opens the door to a person being able to contact me personaly if they so choose.

I don’t hide.

tluck says:

January 16th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

“Just willing to show my face.”

You think anyone’s looking at your face??

tluck says:

January 16th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

I prefer to speak without anonymity ..

For the record, I really respect that, despite my earlier comment.

Greg63 says:

January 17th, 2009 at 7:46 am

“You think anyone’s looking at your face?? ”

Nice to look at but far nicer to know ..

..I’m a very fortunate man.

Didaskalos says:

January 17th, 2009 at 10:40 am

EBF, what instrument do you play? How often is it that you get a chance to play with the MN Orchestra?

Mrs. Didaskalos and I attend several concerts every season (we buy a modestly priced subscription package annually), and we’ve gotten to know one of the members.

AmericanWoman says:

January 17th, 2009 at 10:42 am

EBF, You should feel proud. I applaud you. I’d blog clap but some @ss hole would say I gave you the clap.

I’m being real. You are following a dream. Not many people do.

Greg63 says:

January 17th, 2009 at 11:16 am

“I’d blog clap but some @ss hole would say I gave you the clap.”

Like who?

Greg63 says:

January 17th, 2009 at 11:26 am

EBF ..

For all the times I probably gave you a hard time (I think I may have more-than-likely at some time because it was just there .. or something), I do appreciate the music you play. In some respects maybe I’m jealous.

Disclosure .. although my activities were focused primarily on girls, football, girls, hockey, girls, wrestling (that was sometimes synonymous with girls), and girls ..

..I did play the e flat basso and baritone. Trumpet as well, but not so much. The keyboard was fun, but it only stayed that way.

I truly appreciate the music the orchestra plays although I would never be considered a conniseur (sp?).

Thanks for making that music and doing that massive hit on Markunt Piles of Diahhrea.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 17th, 2009 at 11:48 am

EBF, what instrument do you play? How often is it that you get a chance to play with the MN Orchestra?

I play a wind instrument. I don’t want to be more specific here because, unfortunately, there are some kooks who could use the information to track me down. If you want to know more, e-mail me at evilbabyfauvel@gmail.com. (That would also be a better place for me to ask which musician you know, Didaskalos.)

I used to play with the Orchestra quite a bit when section members were prone to illness and when there were vacancies. Unfortunately I did not win my audition, and now that the section is full (and not prone to illness) I do not get called to play often. My appearance next month will be the first with them in over a year and a half.

Thanks for making that music…

Your welcome, though I contributed but a fraction.

…and doing that massive hit on Markunt Piles of Diahhrea.

Now that was a true pleasure!!!!

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 17th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

EBF

Now that was a true pleasure!!!!

Nope; you could not let sleeping dogs lie could you? I predicted this. You have no self control. So on with the flogging.

I play a wind instrument.

Did anyone else find this funny?

I don’t want to be more specific here because, unfortunately, there are some kooks who could use the information to track me down.

You are the only one on this blog that has ever threatened someone with physical violence. So you are the only kook on the blog that others should be concerned about.

I play a wind instrument…..Unfortunately I did not win my audition

Oh that is too bad. Obviously you don’t ‘play’ well enough!

I do not get called to play often.

Maybe if you played better you would get called on more often.

AmericanWoman says:

January 17th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

MOI, you are such a sh!t.

Can’t you just let it go? Do you have to poke and poke and poke…..?

Do you have a special talent besides being a @sshole?

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 17th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

AW

…poke and poke and poke….special talent

poking in and out is my special talent. Ha ha ha ha.

Can’t you just let it go?

It was let go but EBF keeps pickin’ back up the rope. (He can’t help himself - he’s got no self-restraint.)

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

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Pretty clever evil!

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

But it didn’t work for me.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 17th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

Oh, d2, didn’t you read the part about the non-breaking spaces? LOL!!! Your post demonstrates why I said that copying the finger is easier said than done! Thanks for a good chuckle, d2!

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

“Oh, d2, didn’t you read the part about the non-breaking spaces?”

Nope, sorry. I had just got home from traveling and was pretty tired. Must have missed that.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 17th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

d2, non-breaking spaces are the secret to getting the finger to render correctly. Otherwise everything gets slammed over to — on no, d2, this isn’t good at all — the left! Better luck next time….

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

Evil,

Have you been over to this site?

kerstenblog.startribune.com/kerstenblog/

A lot of Think Again folks are there, but I haven’t noticed you.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

politicalblogs.startribune.com/bigquestionblog

Sorry Evil, this is it!

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 17th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

d2, I’ve lurked a bit on the BQ but have yet to post there. I will probably join everyone over there eventually. I still have high hopes for Think Again to continue, but given that my friends (and offalic enemy) have migrated over to BQ, it’s just a matter of time before I post there, too.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

OK Evil,

Hope to see you there soon!

I hope Katherine keeps a blog going as well and I’m sure her dedicated people will stick around, but I believe the Think Again folks like staying together and are trying to establish a strong backup right now at the BQ, despite the weak topics they present.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

I believe the Think Again folks like staying together and are trying to establish a strong backup right now at the BQ, despite the weak topics they present.

That’s my take on it, too. Maybe I’ll start posting there in my “free” time!

tluck says:

January 18th, 2009 at 11:00 am

Why does Nick Coleman still have a column?

mthalo says:

January 18th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

MOI:
“ebf, ebf, ebf, e. b. f., E. b.f.,
e, B, F!, EBF
E.B.F., EEEEEE, BEEEEEE, EEEFFFFF! EBFEBFEBFEBFEBFEBFEBFEBF”

MOI’s psychiatrist:
“MOI, wake up! You were having that dream AGAIN! Now, first thing in the morning, we’re going to get those meds adjusted, and see if that helps.

I promise you, as soon as you stabilize, we’ll take off the restraints”

dare2sayit.com says:

January 18th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

Hey!

One of my comments was deleted. I just noticed it now.

DJ says:

January 19th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

One of my comments was deleted. I just noticed it now.

We’re all devastated.

tluck says:

January 19th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

We’re all devastated.

I found it very curious DJ. It was in response to my question:

Why does Nick Coleman still have a column?

D2’s comment was simply “Good question”

Why would that be deleted?

dubble_a_ron says:

May 22nd, 2009 at 9:21 am

Katherine’s new picture makes her look kinda like Ann Landers.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

May 23rd, 2009 at 10:09 pm

Katherine’s new picture makes her look kinda like Ann Landers.

It’s a lot classier than the “brillo pad” style she used to have!

Katherine says:

May 23rd, 2009 at 11:19 pm

Actually I was shooting for a kind of Britney Spears in her 50s sort of look.

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