Edina EcoMoms may be opening a can of worms
June 22nd, 2008 – 8:18 AMEdina housewives may have hit the jackpot with a new EcoMom group. Now they can brag about their kids’ soccer triumphs and save the Earth at the same time.
The mostly stay-at-home EcoMoms gather in a member’s living room and sip merlot under a banner that proclaims, “Sustain your home, sustain your planet, sustain your self.” Along with the other 11,000 members of the national EcoMom Alliance, they say, they are “making the world a better place through local, organic, sustainable, non-toxic, slow choices.”
It can be a tough message to sell. “Some people are very attached to their Escalade, and you have to take them along on baby steps,” club leader Julie McMahon Jones told the Star Tribune.
The EcoMom Alliance started — where else? — on the glorious Left Coast of California.
The New York Times recently visited a club chapter in San Rafael, Calif. “Perhaps not since the days of ‘dishpan hands’ has the household been so all-consuming,” the Times reported.
But instead of focusing on “gleaming floors,” talk centers on “the pitfalls of antibacterial hand sanitizers and how to retool the laundry using only cold water and biodegradable detergent during non-prime-time energy hours (after 7 p.m.).”
In Edina, EcoMoms exchange tips on packing “waste-free lunches,” discuss saving rainwater in barrels, explore yoga and plan events like a “nature walk and compost party.”
But some aspects of the EcoMoms’ mantra — “Reduce, reuse, recycle and rot” — may prove more daunting. Take vermiculture, or worm composting, which is lauded at the Edina group’s website, tsunami mommytsunami.wordpress.org.
But don’t despair. At “Worm Woman,” you can stock up on everything from redworms to “compost tea brewers” to bumper stickers proclaiming your eco-enlightenment.
Yet, worm composting could have limits in posh Edina neighborhoods like Country Club. As EcoMoms’ numbers swell, an infestation of worm bins could, shall we say, eat away at property values. And you thought that “monster houses” were a problem.
No threat to the biosphere is too small to merit a dedicated EcoMom’s attention.
Wracked with guilt over sending your kids’ old toothbrushes to a landfill? Edina EcoMoms’ website links to www.CoolMomsCare.org, where you can learn to convert them into bracelets, assuming you have the time. After boiling the toothbrushes in water, you’ll need to painstakingly pluck out each bristle with tweezers.
At the heart of EcoMoms’ appeal, I detect a serious search for meaning. This crusade demands penance for what are called “eco-sins,” and promises redemption through righteous action. The religious flavor of it all is intense.
An ecological apocalypse looms if the rest of us don’t convert to the EcoMoms’ creed.
Environmental hobgoblins range from idling cars in the school parking lot to toys made in China to “off-gasing” from wall-to-wall carpeting.
On the Edina group’s website, one mom — a yoga practitioner — described her dread at learning that her son’s school and some neighbors use lawn chemicals. “I need to breathe (from safe inside) through this frustration and practice asanas of ‘letting go’ postures,” she confided.
Before declaring gloom and doom on all fronts, EcoMoms might want to compare the dangers they face with those their great-grandmothers confronted: potentially deadly diseases that are now a distant memory, including diphtheria, dysentery and polio. In fact, life has never been safer. Even teeter-totters have vanished from our playgrounds, thanks to safety-obsessed folks like these good women.
We all know what organic produce costs. And toxin-free kids’ togs from companies like Hanna Andersson can also set you back a pretty penny. That company sells “100% organic cotton” clothing in which “every fabric, button, thread and zipper is rigorously tested for over 100 potentially harmful substances.”
The surprise is that there are any survivors at all among the poor folks who shop at Sam’s Club.
In the end, EcoMoms’ appeal may arise from the abundant supply of new-age status symbols it provides: “organic” dog beds or the first stainless steel cleaner “completely free of petroleum distillates” or lawn signs that proclaim that your pesticide-free lawn is “safe for all living creatures.”
Especially worms.
208 Responses to "Edina EcoMoms may be opening a can of worms"
Every Day I Need Attention (EDINA)
Some of this sounds a bit extreme (the worms, for example), but many of the things mentioned here are important (such as the dangers of antibacterial soap, and conserving energy by changing laundry habits).
Your comparison to the diseases of yesteryear really isn’t fair. The average housewife of the era could do little, if anything, to help find cures for the diseases you named.
I’m pleased that you sneer at the “religious flavor” you perceive. Now you have some idea how some of us feel about your and your ilk’s attempts to impose your religious beliefs on us.
Since you pooh-pooh all that these “EcoMoms” do, Katherine, it is reasonable to conclude that you see no need to change any of your habits to better our environment.
One of my favorite sayings from Despair, Inc. says it best. Perhaps you should heed its warning, Katherine:
“No single raindrop believes it is responsible for the flood.”
Tiny beat me too it.
But seriously .. why is what they’re doing so bad?
why is what they’re doing so bad?
Did you know that in CA, they now have Eco-psychologists? These EcoMoms are so fraught over what they’re doing, they are having to get special help.
It’s bad because these women are wasting their time and energy. If they want to do something worthwhile, how about donating some time and money to various charities. Maybe run down to Sharing and Caring Hands once in a while and help serve some food and chat it up with some interesting people down there. Sure, some of the things that they are doing are commendable, and it’s good to be eco-conscience, but it’s foolish to let it run your life. There are better causes out there.
Good heavens, Katherine! What do you have against vermicomposting? You clearly haven’t bothered to research it if you think that “an infestation of worm bins could, shall we say, eat away at property values.” They are neither smelly, messy nor conspicuous, and the benefits to someone who gardens are many.
The thing that irritates me most about Katherine is the derisive, mocking tone she uses whenever she dislikes something that someone is doing…as if it affects her in the least. It must be nice going through life with all the answers…or at least an answer to everything.
“Sure, some of the things that they are doing are commendable, and it’s good to be eco-conscience, but it’s foolish to let it run your life. There are better causes out there.”
Are you sure that’s all their doing?
Besides, who really cares? They’re harming no one. They feel good about what they’re doing apparently so why bug them and/or mock them?
Heck, in some places people might think the things you do in the name of good are silly.
This idea of this whole column is .. who cares?
or ..
Is it just a way to say that people lon the CA coast are all wacked out and having absolutely nothing worthwhile to share? Think Again?
Extremism Sucks.
The more I read that article the more it sounds like my mother. She’s by NO means left coast material .. but she is frugal.
This is just funny .. stuff conservative/frugal people were doing in the 60’s is now considered some kind of trend to mock.
Maybe KK grew up someplace where finances weren’t an issue?
Hi, all,
My parents came of age during the Great Depression, and went through WWII; during those times some things simply could not be gotten. One of my mom’s favorite little poems was:
Break it down, wear it out,
Make it do, or do without.
I’m teased for being the block pack rat — until somebody needs something. I usually have it.
I do believe in conservation and frugality because they save time, money, and energy. But I don’t believe in going overboard or getting bent out of shape. It looks to me like the EcoMoms are doing that. Reminds me of an old saying, “Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.”
Hi again, all,
I have some questions.
What’s merlot?
What’s Escalade?
EBF, what is the matter with antibacterial hand soap? I’ve never used it, so I don’t have the slightest idea.
DJ, I like what you say here:
Sure, some of the things that they are doing are commendable, and it’s good to be eco-conscience, but it’s foolish to let it run your life. There are better causes out there.
What’s merlot?
What’s Escalade?
Merlot is a wine. An Escalade is a large SUV made by Cadillac.
DJ, I like what you say here:
Thanks FC. I like what I said too. :)
“But seriously .. why is what they’re doing so bad?”
Gregg they are wasting their time on BS..BS. And its become a status thing.Thats the point.
And here is another point for you.
“3 injured in shooting at Juneteenth festival”
We had a math discussion the other night. The likelihood of being murdered was just a numbers thing.
10,000 people at the Juneteenth festival; SHOTS FIRED
10,000 people at the Buffalo parade last weekend; NO SHOTS FIRED.
So don’t BS me. The problem down there is nobody cares. By tomorrow its off the front page and life goes on.
Tiny-
We get it. Minneapolis has a higher crime rate than Buffalo. People do care.
What exactly would you suggest we do about it? The city IS fighting crime. Crime is my neighborhood has gone down considerably in the last 10 years. There’s no way to make it stop completely. Criminals come to Minneapolis, not Buffalo. There’s a LOT more oppurtunity in Minneapolis. How would you suggest stopping that?
Stop with the cultural BS and start with the punishments. Stop looking for Halo points and start getting tough. And get rid of that damn mayor of yours. He cares more about idle laws and bottled water then he does the lives of his citizens.
Someone waring their pants down at their knees and having their hat on sideways is not a cultural thing. Its a criminal thing.
And how about if you where not born in Minnesota you don’t a dime of assistance money. No more of this “starting over in Minnesota” BS.
And how about bringing back the death penalty.
What’s merlot?
As DJ said, it is a wine. Specifically it is a red wine. And I must say it is pretty good, as red wines go.
EBF, what is the matter with antibacterial hand soap?
It promotes the growth of antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
That company sells “100% organic Global Climate Change Bull Sh^t”
Al Gore Inc.
When Gas gets up to 10 bucks gallon and these Edina moms have to feed their kids Macaroni and Cheese everyday. We’ll see how Eco they are then.
Already I feel a change, people asking “why haven’t we been drilling our own oil”
When they find out it was to save the “Butt Fly”. I think we will see a change.
“Already I feel a change, people asking “why haven’t we been drilling our own oil”
When they find out it was to save the “Butt Fly”. I think we will see a change. ”
Because folks were worried about the tourism industry?
As far as the ECO thing goes .. who cares? Why even waste time with it.
Why isn’t someone looking at the crime problem more closely? Why does KK choose to not go after that but instead looks at the yuppies trying to save the planet sipping on merlot they got from France 44 in their escalade.
This is the problem. Extremism sucks. Too many people trying to make points and everyone ignoring the reality and ignoring some things as though they’re everyday when they shouldn’t be.
“Extremism sucks” You Keep saying that but I’m not buying that you, yourself are totally in the clear.
So in a sense you’re a “Extremist against Extremism” An E.A.E.
Farmer Greg he had a farm E.A.E.I.O.
“So in a sense you’re a “Extremist against Extremism” An E.A.E.”
Nah, just an observer ..
Surrounded by extremists.
“Extremism in the face Global Climate Change is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of nonsense is no virtue”
Did I get that right jcf817 a.k.a. “Ice Caps”
Someone waring their pants down at their knees and having their hat on sideways is not a cultural thing. Its a criminal thing.
Actually, it’s a fashion thing. Non-criminals and criminals alike do that.
“Actually, it’s a fashion thing. Non-criminals and criminals alike do that.”
NOT on the farm.
NOT on the farm.
Ok, i meant in the cities and suburbs…
“Actually, it’s a fashion thing. Non-criminals and criminals alike do that.”
So what you’re saying is Obamas grandmother would have been right 50% of the time?
Obamas grandmother would have been right 50% of the time?
?? I don’t get it…
Obama’s grandmother was fond of some less than kind words for people who’s skin is black.
So ..
If not all are criminals, then 50/50 is an the best estimate?
DJ ever watch the History Channels “gangland”. Eye opener. Some of this is second, third generation.
I don’t think we should encourage emulation of murderers and thugs. If I remember right this week was on Chicago. I recall they said 599 gang related murders in Chicago in 2003.
I would hazard a guess that 90% of the kids out there who have their hats sideways and their pants low are NOT criminals. No, I have no evidence or stats to back this up. I’m basing that on people I have met.
Greg63
Sort of “Street Walk Casino” in a sea of “Knee Panters”. Odds change on street and time of day and stuff.
Anyhow you and DJ hammer this thing out. 60 minutes is on.
DJ ever watch the History Channels “gangland”.
I have not seen this as I do not have cable.
Wow Man. Far out. I didn’t realize how many of you guys work sundays. It just takes the groovie out of life, man. Your ruining my buzz, Man.
Hi, all,
EBF, thanks for the explanation.
A few years back, I was doing some errands with my nephew, and I asked him if he knew anything about the low pants thing. He said it’s a sign of being tough, because they take away your belt and shoelaces in jail. That’s all I know. Whether any individual person has or hasn’t been to jail, of course I don’t know. But just a few days ago I was driving down Penn Ave. and saw a young woman with a skin-tight t-shirt and the word “bitch” on it in capital letters at least 4-5 inches tall.
So what is someone supposed to think about these folks? They’re sending a message, but I don’t know how to read it.
am i still alive?
WHEW!
“So what is someone supposed to think about these folks? They’re sending a message, but I don’t know how to read it. ”
Just me, but I tend to ignore it. The more attention paid to it the more it occurs.
I’d never be able to do the pants gig. I’m an enviro-sadist so I go commando to save using laundry soap.
My wife loves me.
GO ..
The sweet barn smells incredibly sweet in the loft. There’s a fresh 300 bales of timothy and canary up there right now.
Great. I sit here with a sweet barn smell full of fresh bales induced boner and my lady is workin a 24 hour shift at the hospital.
Thanks Greg63. I’m sending ya the cold water bill.
I thought you had goats?
“I thought you had goats?”
Oh my how I miss the inappropriate Minnesoootaah humour don’tcha know.
The goats are for brush clearing not for recreational spelunking. Geeeez!
Yah, I’m with Tiny L on this subject, too. We can poke fun at the Edina Eco Moms all we want, but they are not hurting anyone. My guess is that if ten-thousand Eco-Moms had a big celebration, there would be no shots fired, because gunpowder is bad for the enviornment.
The ecomoms may not be hurting anyone, but they aren’t really helping anyone either.
I agree completely, DJ. Absolutely. But the way I look at it, who really is helping? I can’t judge these Eco Moms for wasting time and accomplishing nothing–when I sit here online and gripe–and I’m not accomplishing much, either.
The worries of Edina’s Eco-Moms-
paper or Plastic. Latte or manicure.
The worries of the real world-
Medication or heat bill.
Food or fuel bills.
But the way I look at it, who really is helping?
Lots of people. It’s not hard. Just do some charity work every once in a while. Or if you don’t actually want to get out there, just donate some money. It all helps. And these Eco-Moms are the type who can help others. They have money and time and should be using both more wisely.
Oh, and Mrs. Kersten, clever title. I laughed after re-reading it after I had read the article.
“Oh my how I miss the inappropriate Minnesoootaah humour don’tcha know.
The goats are for brush clearing not for recreational spelunking. Geeeez!”
You betcha?
And .. these ladies are helping Cadillac, the liqour stores, and the KK coffers. I believe Imus and/or his wife sell a whole line of eco cleaning products so maybe they’re helping him too.
“Put oil firm chiefs on trial, says leading climate change scientist”
See when I compare the Global Warming people with the Nazis in Germany in the 1930’s. I don’t think I’m stretching it that much.
What is wrong with the Eco moms? They play into this whole attitude and help manifest it.
Hmm, comparing Global Warmers to Nazis IS a stretch.
Last I heard, they are not kidnapping SUV-owners in the middle of the night and sticking ‘em in camps.
If these ladies wanna have worm composting parties and waste their lives, like it or not, that’s their right.
Let’s worry about the bigger issues.
“Hmm, comparing Global Warmers to Nazis IS a stretch.”
Not in that sense but in the sense of; Condemnation and scorn on those we “dare” to question. The brainwashing of a sociality starting at the elementary school level. The “Eco Moms”, “Eco Kids”, Green this green that. There are many similarities if you look at it in that sense.
‘The debate is over” is a example of said similarities.
“Queen says no to pot smoking FBI members”
“What is wrong with the Eco moms? They play into this whole attitude and help manifest it.”
Oh man .. you’re losing it.
I realize where you WANT to go with this, but I’m just having way to much difficulty getting afraid of a mom from Edina.
Should I be afraid of getting doused with an algae bomb?
The whole global warming stuff is getting stuffed in lieu of a compromise called climate change. THAT you can at least agree may be happening and that we may be responsible in part .. I mean, common sense would dictate that if you’re pumping more CO2 from industrialization that it would happen correct?
Extremism sucks.
Your guy PB made a funny this morning:
Mike Barnacle says “I think we should start drilling in McLean, VA”
PB says “That would be extremism!”
(Background laughter)
That was a good one!
“I realize where you WANT to go with this, but I’m just having way to much difficulty getting afraid of a mom from Edina.”
Greg who said anything about being afraid. I’m not afraid. The point is at some point in time people stopped thinking for themselves and whether you believed or not it is in your best interest to not decent.
I do see an extreme in you Greg.
Anybody what to guess what kind of an extreme Greg is?
Class… Class….
Anyone …Anyone
You mean like ..
Reject authority?
I am an exteme extremist monitor.
How’s that.
Nooooooooo think more in terms of the label that would be assigned to you in regards to your placement on the human intellectual scale.
an extreme [ what ]?
You know, I bet these Edina EcoMoms are the same stay-at-home moms who take their kids to church, give them cookies after school and ask them about their day, help them with their math homework, and generally raise their kids in stable, two-parent homes. What, all that good parenting (the kind Kathering is constantly championing) doesn’t count because they also want to lessen their imapct on the environment?
Do the EcoMoms need a little more to do with their time? Eh, probably. But at least they are taking an active, invloved role in their kids’ upbringing and lifestyle.
And by the way, to all the posters who have proclaimed that EDINA stands for Every Day I Need Attention: Did all of you really think you made that up yourselves? Whoa, you’re originals!
Which is the bigger waste of time?
wringing your hands over which detergent to use, or
writing derisively about people who wring their hands over which detergent to use?
“Nooooooooo think more in terms of the label that would be assigned to you in regards to your placement on the human intellectual scale.”
LOL ..
You must’ve got your double espresso this morning.
I think the word extremism is being thrown around here pretty loosely. What’s extreme about recycling? Trying to reuse stuff instead of buying new? Using worms to help compost?
This doesn’t sound like a club I’d want to join, but I can’t say that what they’re trying to do is somehow nefarious.
The idea of environmentalism is nothing new. We’re acting like it’s some big terrible wave of fanaticism.
I am old enough to remember the Native American Indian on TV with the tear in his eye looking at the *$#@ washing up on shore…
Fast forward 35 years and someone thinks they can build a car that runs on worm-poop, big deal, go for it.
“retool the laundry using only cold water and biodegradable detergent during non-prime-time energy hours (after 7 p.m.)”
Wow…sounds fiscally responsible.
“waste-free lunches,”
Fiscally responsible.
non-idling cars
fiscally responsible (especially with $4 a gallon gas)
Composting
Also fiscally responsible. You might night have to upgrade to that bigger trash bin for more money.
Oh…I forgot…”conservatives” don’t always believe in conserving or saving money if it seems a little too Al Gore-ish. It’s worth it to waste money to show your dislike of Al Gore.
If you should see a hearse go by
You’ll know that you are the next to die
They wrap you up in a big white sheet
And bury you down about six feet deep
It all goes well for about a week
And then the coffin begins to leak
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out
The worms play pinochle on your snout
One little worm that isn’t so shy
Craws in your ear and out your eye
Your eyes they turn a gushy green
Your stomach turns to whipped ice-cream
You spread it all on a piece of bread
And that’s what you eat when you’re dead.
“…”conservatives” don’t always believe in conserving or saving money if it seems a little too Al Gore-ish. It’s worth it to waste money to show your dislike of Al Gore.”
No your wrong. Everyone likes to save money.
But not everyone likes an overweight, carbon trading, mercury/lead bulb, talking the talk but not walking the walk, internet inventing, 3rd grade slide show producing, fact omitting, science plagerizing, Macarena dancing, silver spoon sucking, southern accented, c0ck sucking, washed up has been, fool.
What’s wrong with the Macarena?
“But not everyone likes an overweight, carbon trading, mercury/lead bulb, talking the talk but not walking the walk, internet inventing, 3rd grade slide show producing, fact omitting, science plagerizing, Macarena dancing, silver spoon sucking, southern accented, c0ck sucking, washed up has been, fool.”
And his barn sucks.
to find out how I really feel about Carbon Al please visit me at my blog-
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Add the “h”.
“I am old enough to remember the Native American Indian on TV with the tear in his eye looking at the *$#@ washing up on shore…”
Mr Rabbit, you bring back memories. Remember these two? 1) African American guy is sitting glumly in a dark room on a chair, staring straight ahead. Voice comes on saying, “Give to the United Negro College Fund, because a mind is a terrible thing to waste”. 2) Some businessman type is in a smoky bar. He’s smoking a cigarette. More smoke comes wafting past his face. He’s agitated about pollution and says, “They ought to close down those smokestacks out in the flats”. Voice comes on saying, start with your own lungs, or something like that. Cancer Society or Lung Association ad, I think.
leland/derrick
and the smokey the bear ads were cool too.
leland/derrick
don’t forget the Hi Karate ads. they were the best
Shhhhhhh….Mr G don’t bring up that derrick stuff, Ms Katherine is listening.
Hi Karate: I still have a little bit of that stuff.
Remember, “When you’re busted for drugs over there, you’re in for the hassle of your life”? It was both a radio and tv spot. Played constantly. It was a public service message, to protect rich kids on vacation overseas.
Yeah, guys! Back then there was real activism on TV. Look at the crap ya got now: Buncha big ol’ dudes playing band in a garage, with some voice over telling you to ask your doctor if you can do it for four hours or something.
If Edina ladies wanna cackle about recycling, heck they are doing nothing new! What I’d like to see is maybe recycling some of the gangstas and thugs in the city!
“I am old enough to remember the Native American Indian on TV with the tear in his eye looking at the *$#@ washing up on shore…”
Didn’t some of Tonys Lieutenants work that guy over?
Gangster composting bin. You’ve gone too far, Mr Rabbit. Hey, I finally get a chance to reel you in, rather than vice versa.
“The point is at some point in time people stopped thinking for themselves and whether you believed or not it is in your best interest to not decent.”
Wasnt it you talking earlier about Nazis? Its in your best interests NOT to decent? So how exactly do you think for yourself and not decent? Sounds like Nazis to me.
Hey leland how about the egg and frying pan drug ad?
This egg is your brain. This is your brain on drugs.
Mr 4blahs, that was a great ad. Americana. A true classic.
My new favorite show is “Metalocalypse”.
“Wasnt it you talking earlier about Nazis? Its in your best interests NOT to decent? So how exactly do you think for yourself and not decent? Sounds like Nazis to me.”
You talking to me?
What is your best choice right now if you are having a discussion about Global Warming?
I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who do not believe but don’t voice it in fear of scorn. Thats what happen in Germany in the 30’s
Hey what’s up your @ss that you feel the need to twist everything I say around and seem to be targeting me for your BS.
Hey I’m ready to go back to the brimn/Marka days anytime you’re ready.
Yah, Le8, I know. When there are shootings and stabbings only blocks from your home, ya start having thoughts on what you’d like done to the thugs that may run a little counter to the Constitution.
That’s why in the beginning of this comment board, when they were saying that those issues were a bit more pressing than the Ladies Compost Club, I had to jump in.
“Even teeter-totters have vanished from our playgrounds, thanks to safety-obsessed folks like these good women.”
Anyone know why or if the teeter totters are now considered dangerous and are being vanished from playgrounds?
If they’re going to ban the teeter totter, they might as well ban the small kid merry-go-rounds also. You know the ones you push to get the momentum going and then jump on it while it’s moving?
I’ve never known anyone that got hurt badly while playing on the teeter totter or the merry-go-round.
“James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climate scientists, will today call for the chief executives of large fossil fuel companies to be put on trial for high crimes against humanity and nature, accusing them of actively spreading doubt about global warming in the same way that tobacco companies blurred the links between smoking and cancer.”
James sounds like a “Brown Shirter” to me.
iamme,
at first read I thought you were talkin about teetotalers. I thought what the hell does a teetotaler have to do with a merry-go-round and why would they be vannishing from play grounds?
I better have another drink.
I understand, Mr. Rabbit. I live in a little better part of town now, but I lived for many years, in several spots, roughly in the area of Franklin and Portland. That was some years ago, but it was plenty rough back then.
I used to love those little momentum merry-go-rounds! They banned those, too?
Must really s-ck to be a little kid these days.
“I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who do not believe but don’t voice it in fear of scorn. Thats what happen in Germany in the 30’s”
So they go along right? Kind of like not decenting? Something you said was in your best interests. Whats your point Tiny?
“Hey what’s up your @ss that you feel the need to twist everything I say around and seem to be targeting me for your BS.”
Because you dont make any sense. Im asking questions because I have no fing idea what the hell youre talking about.
“Hey I’m ready to go back to the brimn/Marka days anytime you’re ready.”
Im ready for Blog retirement. Ive heard all the Tinyisms there are. Its becoming a rerun now.
“James sounds like a “Brown Shirter” to me.”
this oughta make for good court tv.
The tee-totters were banned, because the heavier kid always got the lighter kid up in the air, and tried to jump off and drop him. Trouble is, the heavy kid always ended up getting banged under the chin when he jumped off.
“I used to love those little momentum merry-go-rounds! They banned those, too?
Must really s-ck to be a little kid these days. ”
It’s probably why gameboy is so popular.
Kids don’t know how to play anymore.
Their imagination is shot .. I mean, remember when putting your little brother in the dryer to play NASA was so much fun?
“The tee-totters were banned, because the heavier kid always got the lighter kid up in the air, and tried to jump off and drop him. Trouble is, the heavy kid always ended up getting banged under the chin when he jumped off. ”
What do they think taught kids to be smart?
No wonder there aren’t more physicists.
I wonder if AG and BO would follow Tiny back and fill it to the brimm.
The tee-totter was a study in instant karma.
“Im ready for Blog retirement. Ive heard all the Tinyisms there are. Its becoming a rerun now.”
Then go to a different blog. Oh wait your post are usually so frickin’ enlightening to all here that maybe I should move on.
In the corner to my left, weighing in at 137 lbs, wearing a $1,200 suit, and carrying a box of shoes, that he is returning for his wife, introducing. Mr 4 blahs.
In the corner to my right, weighing in at 337 lbs. with a sleeveless t-shirt, and a Seed Corn cap, here is, Mr tiny litess.
Best two out of the falls, no disqualification, one hour time limit.
For the call of the match, let’s go to Marty O’Neil at ringside.
Greg63,
Thanks for posting that photo of ya. I thought the “63″ was the year you were born but now I see its your age.
“Then go to a different blog. Oh wait your post are usually so frickin’ enlightening to all here that maybe I should move on.”
Who cares tiny? Do you think this place actually matters?
“LOS ANGELES (AP)—Candace Parker became the second woman to dunk in a WNBA game and the Los Angeles Sparks beat the Indiana Fever 77-63 on Sunday night.
Parker took a pass from Raffaella Masciadri, dribbled the length of the court and dunked with her right hand with 29 seconds to play.
“When I caught the ball and there was an open lane, it was a good opportunity,” Parker said. “I’m happy that I was able to do it in Los Angeles in front of the home fans.”
Lisa Leslie, her Sparks teammate, is the only other WNBA player to do it— throwing a shot down during a game in 2002.”
This is why the WNBA is a boring league and should be disbanded.
I’m kinda with 4b on this one. I have noticed a definite decline in the quality of the conversations. Much more sitting around wasting time than actually discussing anything. I’m guessing other people are feeling the same way because there are a few people who never comment anymore. And that’s too bad because I thought some of them added a lot to the conversation.
So DJ, dont bounce passes in the lane, layups and zone defense bore the piss out of you?
My apathy level to this blog is at an all time high.
Congratulations Tiny on being the only one who continues to think this blog has a point.
“This is why the WNBA is a boring league and should be disbanded.”
Is dunking the only thing that makes basketball entertaining for you?
“Greg63,
Thanks for posting that photo of ya. I thought the “63″ was the year you were born but now I see its your age.”
Dickmelon.
Of course, my 68 year old father is convinced I’m older than him. Something about testing limits, and having a high tolerance to pain.
Are you seeing similarities but at the same time differences in the Carter message compared to the BO message?
“Is dunking the only thing that makes basketball entertaining for you?”
Oh good. The blog stocker. Yes it is. What do you like about it?
Oh wait, I also love a good chest pass.
BB- Having talent is always a bonus too… it’s like watching the special Olympics. It great that they can do all those things, but basketball in wheelchairs just isn’t as entertaining as when they can touch the top of the backboard.
“Oh good. The blog stocker. Yes it is. What do you like about it?”
Oh come on, don’t start out like that and get your Underoos in a bunch right off the bat.
I was just curious if dunking is the only thing you liked about basketball.
You’re right though, I only make it hear about once a month and this place is deserted now.
DJ-
Touching the top of the backboard is impressive but how long does that remain entertaining? Watching basketball for dunks is like watching baseball only for home runs.
Mark; eat my brown lumps.
And LE-8 scores a slam-dunk right at the buzzer!
I have to sign off, cuz co-workers are looking at me funny when I am laughing my butt off alone at my desk. Later, gentelmen.
BB- Oh, I’m not saying dunking is even my favorite part of basketball. I’m a much bigger fan of great teamwork and passing because that is much more impressive and rare.
And my favorite part of baseball is watching Joe Nathan pitch. He’s unreal.
My point about basketball is that if they can do that, then they are more physically fit to do everything else that makes basketball enjoyable.
Anyways, that’s enough about basketball…
“Dickmelon”
Insult or compliment?
….pondering….pondering…..
BB,
If you’re being serious, no I dont just watch for dunks. I like watching the athleticism of the players in the NBA. While the WNBA can be impressive at times, never have I seen a game where my jaw hit the floor in amazment from a play. Its the same game over and over. In the NBA things happen that I cant believe. The speed is faster, the defense more intense, etc etc. Playing a slower brand of ball below the rim is too boring to me. The idea that the second dunk of all time is supposed to get me excited about the WNBA is far too little too late to influence me. It just points out to me again how boring of a league it is. Its like watching the NBA from the late ’40s and 50s.
“And my favorite part of baseball is watching Joe Nathan pitch.”
I didn’t know Joe Namath played baseball
Insult or compliment?
….pondering….pondering….
Go,
Dickmelon would be an insult. Melondick would be a compliment
Hi, all,
As long as we’re talking about basketball, I think the basket should be raised, on the grounds that the average height of players is more than it was 120 years ago. I don’t like the slam dunk, because it looks to me like it’s too easy — for a tall young person in great shape, that is. :o)
“Mark; eat my brown lumps”
Ill be gone soon enough tiny then you can have this place all to yourself. Scream and whine and cry about global warming and Obama until you puke. It will still be irrelevant to the rest of the world.
Defense? NBA? That’s my whole issue with the NBA is the complete lack of defense. While there are a couple teams that play D and some individuals, for the most part, it’s non-existent.
It goes without saying that players are incredibly gifted, but, they aren’t doing anything new and the league is watered down quite a bit.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t clear my calendar for the WNBA scedule but it’s better than people give it credit for, same goes for NCAA women’s.
DJ,
I love watching a good strike out pitcher change speeds. I love the change up and the bunt single. Watching a good 3B dive past the foul line and snag a ball then throw out the runner at first is much cooler than a HR.
4B-If you leave, then noone will be here to defend Minneapolis in my abscense.
Mr 4blahs and Mr.litess, please reference my 11:47 am post. This matter needs to be settled.
“Defense? NBA? That’s my whole issue with the NBA is the complete lack of defense.”
There is way more D now than in the ’80s. Plus the Celtics just won the title by dominating the Lakers on the defensive end. The Kobe MJ comparissons are over now because he couldnt over come the celtic defense.
The best players in the league arent the greatest defenders but there is still more D than there used to be. How much D did Dominique play?
“Dickmelon would be an insult. Melondick would be a compliment”
Soooooo…. he’s saying my Melons are small? HEY!! That ain’t right
“Its like watching the NBA from the late ’40s and 50s.”
True, those guys like Russell, Cousy, Mikan and the rest really stunk up the place……
BB- I will agree with you that very few teams play good defense these days. But if you didn’t, then you should have watched the Finals. Two dominate defensive teams. Especially Boston.
4b-I agree. That’s one of the reasons Gomez is so much fun to watch. He’s really getting good at that bunt single.
“Don’t get me wrong, I don’t clear my calendar for the WNBA scedule but it’s better than people give it credit for, same goes for NCAA women’s.”
What I dont get is the guilt trip commercials the WNBA tries to put on the sports fan. Try marketing your sport to women first. Why should I be considered sexist for preferring the NBA over the WNBA when its a much better product. Women wont even support the WNBA.
“Mark; eat my brown lumps”
do those brown lumps come with the brown shirts?
“True, those guys like Russell, Cousy, Mikan and the rest really stunk up the place……”
Hey I love Russell and he won most of his titles in the ’60s.
Cousy? Great for his era but he couldnt make it today. Mikan was just really tall for his era. You think the ’50s ball handeling could cut it today? Loved the two handed flat footed set shot too. Oh boy.
“Plus the Celtics just won the title by dominating the Lakers on the defensive end.”
I noted that there are a couple teams and individuals that play D but that is about it. It’s why commentators talk about a game in December that had “playoff intensity”- no one plays defense during the regular season.
“There is way more D now than in the ’80s.”
How do you measure that, because Domonique didn’t play D?
“Mr 4blahs and Mr.litess, please reference my 11:47 am post. This matter needs to be settled.”
Tiny can have the title. I dont care to compete. Its pointless.
Yeah, Cousy probably wouldn’t make it today when there how many more teams and players overall. Look at some of the players that have NBA jobs and tell me that league isn’t a joke.
Actually ball handling in the 50’s was really ball handlind, ie dribbling- now, too lenient to even compare, they get away with carries and steps to the point that anyone can bring the ball up.
“How do you measure that, because Domonique didn’t play D?”
Just look at the average scores back then. They played less D in the 80s.
Im not trying to call the NBA a defensive league. It is a trend league and now that the Celtics dominated the shift might be moving towards defense. Anyway the defensive play is more impressive in the NBA than in the WNBA.
“Look at some of the players that have NBA jobs and tell me that league isn’t a joke.”
Cant argue there. There are some terrible players in the league. Ndudi Ebi for example.
“now, too lenient to even compare, they get away with carries and steps to the point that anyone can bring the ball up.”
Did you happen to see Vujacic take about six steps on his way threw the lane this past series in Boston? Pretty bad.
Blahs real first, middle and last name
Reid Todd Ed.
“They played less D in the 80s.”
Based on that logic, then the 20’s and 30’s were really all about defense becasue all the games were 25-19, on big nights that is.
You can’t base “playing D” on what the scores are, would that be the only factor?
Tiny,
Thats pretty lame. Why not just call me Hugh Jazz? Or Jack Mehoff?
“Based on that logic, then the 20’s and 30’s were really all about defense becasue all the games were 25-19, on big nights that is.”
Lets clarify. Post shot clock era. Pre shot clock you could just dribble and could win 2 - 0.
But your point of comparing eras is a good one. Its difficult to do. But watching old games on ESPN classic you can see the difference in the defense.
“You can’t base “playing D” on what the scores are, would that be the only factor?”
What I’m saying is, you can’t argue “better defense” on scores becasue then the WNBA should get credit for playing better defense.
Mark I know it’s hard to live with yourself knowing you’re voting for the same presidential candidate as Phyllis Kahn is.
I’d kill myself before I’d do that sh^t.
“Thats pretty lame. Why not just call me Hugh Jazz? Or Jack Mehoff?”
How about a F stick? You know what that is ( its a Markism )
“What I’m saying is, you can’t argue “better defense” on scores becasue then the WNBA should get credit for playing better defense.”
That was a quick response and not comprehensive enough. My point is when you look at what the defense was overall simply by observing the style of play, it was a more open game in the ’80s than it is now. Todays game is still open and has an emphasis on offense and running but not to the point it was in the 80’s.
“I’d kill myself before I’d do that sh^t.”
See, if I lived in Buffalo Id kill myself.
“How about a F stick? You know what that is ( its a Markism ) ”
Wooooopedeeeedoooooo!!!!!
“See, if I lived in Buffalo Id kill myself.”
Me too.
“But watching old games on ESPN classic you can see the difference in the defense.”
Well, teams had better scorers top to bottom then, I mean, think about the Lakers, after Kobe, who was next? Odom? That’s like looking at the Celtics of the 80’s and having ML Carr being the next best option after Bird.
Never really got into basket ball. But I could watch Golf all day.
and theres nothin better than listening to a good Foosball game on the radio.
Thats possible too. Maybe the offense was just too good to stop? Maybe the defense looks better today because no one can hit a jump shot? Being able to hit the J back in the 80’s opened up the lane and made scoring easier. If the defense can collapse on the lane and clog it up and no one can hit a J, they arent as likely to attack the rim either. Thats a good point.
Im wondering too if a guy like Stockton could average 14 or 15 As a game today like he did in the 80s.
If my wife was Canadian I’d do the Murder Suicide thing. In Buffalo. With an F stck, while I was sack checkin’. And before I voted for the same person as Phyllis Kahn is going to vote for.
and after the W.N.B.A. basketball game I was watching.
“There is way more D now than in the ’80s.” But not as much as in the 60’s! No one drove the line on Bill Russel more than once in a game and survived, he was an animal.
And if my name was Mark I would killed myself a longgggggggggggg time ago.
My favorite basketball team: The Washington Generals. 6 Wins and 13,000 Losses. Talk about perseverance.
Hey Tiny?
and by the way…basketball sucks
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“If my wife was Canadian I’d do the Murder Suicide thing. In Buffalo. With an F stck, while I was sack checkin’. And before I voted for the same person as Phyllis Kahn is going to vote for.”
Tiny,
Relax.
Quality Tiny. Not quantity.
“Im wondering too if a guy like Stockton could average 14 or 15 As a game today like he did in the 80s.”
Playing with someone like Malone for as long as those 2 played together? Probably, maybe but stick stockton on the Clippers for his career and his assists go down and his points probably go up.
Mr. tiny litess wins the first fall, using rough-house tactics.
There is not a post you will post that I will not contest. This is the way you want it. Back to the good old days.
Hey how’s that candidate that wants to bail out all those mortgages and tax business and set more bank regulations. You know the one Kahnys voting for.
Hows that guy doing?
What the hell. How about this one Leland.
Tiny,
If I was as bitter and angry not to mention compulsive as you Id be an alcholic too.
Hey… Tiny??
Hello All, a little off topic but I hope you enjoy.
As you may already know, it is a sin for a Muslim male to see any woman other than
his wife naked, and that he must commit suicide if he does. So next
Saturday at 4 PM. Eastern Time, all American women are asked to walk out
of their houses completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood
terrorists. Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this
anti-terrorist effort.
All men are to position themselves
in lawn chairs in front of their houses to prove they are not radical
Muslims, and to show support for all American women. Since Islam
also does not approve of alcohol, a cold 6-pack at your side is further
proof of your anti-terrorist sentiment.
The American
government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds
your participation in this anti-terrorist activity. God bless America.
It is your patriotic duty to pass this on.
“Hows that guy doing?”
Winning.
““Hows that guy doing?”
Winning.”
Really, I didn’t know anyone voted yet!
I’m pretty sure this isn’t real, but still looks pretty awesome.
Hey 4blahs,
Remember this day-
Katherine says:
September 26th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
The next step will be to permanently delete some folks from ever using this site again.
man that was hillarious.
Those were the days, my friend
We thought they’d never end
We’d sing and dance forever and a day
We’d live the life we’d choose
We’d fight and never lose
For we were young and sure to have our way
La La La La La La
La La La La La La
La La La La La La La La La La
If tiny wants to go back to the past he can. I dont care. If I get kicked off I dont care. This blog has gotten predictable and boring. I can always reincarnate myself under another name at another time if I ever get blog lonely.
“If I get kicked off I dont care”
Thats a wonderful idea. Comeback as “80’s Hair band lover”
Mr. 4blahs, you have won the 2nd fall. Mr. litess did not responded to the sleeper hold you placed on him. He was out for over 1 hour, but has now come back strong in the 3rd and deciding fall, with a snide Hair band comment.
I think you may have placed the sleeper hold on the entire blog, Mr 4 blahs.
Ms tanks, it is with much joy and pleasure I welcome you back. I am being very sweet and adoring to women these days. I have missed you tremendously.
Tiny, Iron Maiden is a metal band. That’s like calling Metallica or Led Zepellin a hair band. There’s a difference.
Mr 4blahs, for whatever it is worth, I like you, and want to continue to read your comments. Something is bothering you in your personal life. I can tell these things. Don’t be mad at me for saying this. I wish you well.
Match is declared “no contest” do to sudden indifference by both combatants. Double count out.
Go ..
It wasn’t a complement. It was a dig.
If you’d get a half-assed barn it wouldn’t happen.
I like to watch Tiny and 4B’s fight.
They both played too much NASA in the dryer.
I read this blog and I’ve gotta wonder if the experiment really went where they wanted.
ttp://www.rakemag.com/reporting/features/one-woman-solution
Ms tanks, as much as I am happy to hear from you, I didn’t like your anti-Muslim post.
“Ms tanks, as much as I am happy to hear from you, I didn’t like your anti-Muslim post.”
Because you stopped drinking and therefore cannot participate?
“Tiny, Iron Maiden is a metal band. That’s like calling Metallica or Led Zepellin a hair band. There’s a difference.”
Frankly I thought I was alive during that time and listen to everything from Zep to Uriah Heep so on and so forth. But I can not name you one Iron Maiden song. Also I could not name one Metallica song. Nor do I know the names of any of the people in those bands.
I’d say every band from the end of the 70’s until Seattle grunge of the 90’s was a 80’s hair band. All the songs sounded alike. It was a horrible. Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Quiet Riot..Teenage bubble gum sh^t.
I mean we’re talkin’ Richie Blackmore. Richie Blackmore
Richie Blackmore.
“I’d say every band from the end of the 70’s until Seattle grunge of the 90’s was a 80’s hair band. All the songs sounded alike. It was a horrible. Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Quiet Riot..Teenage bubble gum sh^t.”
I can’t believe that YOU of all people would lump Air Supply in with all the rest.
You’re constantly quoting them.
If Richie Blackmore was running against Michele Bachman in the 6th who would you vote for?
If Ritchie Blackmore was running against Michele Bachman in the 6th who would you vote for?
“I can’t believe that YOU of all people would lump Air Supply in with all the rest.”
Greg I’m thinkin I could name one of their songs before I could a Metallica one.
“When you caught between the moon and New York City” ?
Hey its in my head now to.
So relax..thats the cool guys word for the day “relax”
Just thought I’d pop in and say that I think 4Blahs has an evil twin (that knows his password) that comes into his place and uses his computer to make comments on this blog sometimes. Not all the time, just sometimes.
Ms iamme, you are an acute observer and a cute observer (I’m flirting with you).
Speaking of 70’s bands, Kansas was probably the best and most underrated. They were hard rockers with a talent for writing and performing classical type music.
Most of today’s “music” absolutely sucks and explains the popularity of Classic Rock stations. MTV and gansta rap can be blamed for many of today’s social problems.
“Obama campaign retires altered presidential seal”
I have to apologize to The honorable Raymond Thomas Rybak, mayor of Minneapolis. His “m” in moron after his name is still a small “m” not a capital “m” as I have stated before.
Speaking of Obama, it looks like he may become the first Arab President, not the first black President. Someone sent this to me today, please correct me if it is wrong:
**********************************
Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein
Obama’s father was from Kenya, his father’s family was mainly Arabs..
Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5%
Arab (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African
Negro)
dare2 james sayit is back.
Extremism sucks.
“dare2 james sayit” ?
“Because you dont make any sense. Im asking questions because I have no fing idea what the hell youre talking about.”
What is the middle name of the most famous right wing radical in the last 20 years.
dare Christ. Just stick to his policies and the part of the democratic party he represents. And the hypocrisy’s, daily hypocrisy’s. Thrown out garbage like that.Just gives him the chance to play the victim.
But I do think its fair to bring up the fact that the “label” of first black president that we hear all the time is just not true. Its a percentage and if its a percentage then any percentage should count.
I’m no presidential genius by guys like Jackson, Jefferson, Monroe had long family history’s in America. Some 150 years before the forming of the nation. So the likelihood one or more had some African American blood in them is probably pretty good.
I have no idea why the press insists upon saying he might be the first black president. The first mixed race president sure. Maybe we all just want to make history or something.
Tinyism® M43A3R867KS7U54Ck65s
“What is the middle name of the most famous right wing radical in the last 20 years.”
J.James Crackincorn?
“dare Christ. Just stick to his policies and the part of the democratic party he represents. And the hypocrisy’s, daily hypocrisy’s.”
Tiny,
I really don’t care what race or gender any Presidential candidate is, I care about their character. In Obama’s case I’m just pointing out what a complete con man he is.
Greg63 says:
“dare2 james sayit is back.
Extremism sucks.”
What is extremist about pointing out facts? What do you dispute?
By far the most extremist politician in Washington is Barack Obama.
“Go ..
It wasn’t a complement. It was a dig.”
“A Dig- By definition-
an aggressive remark directed at a person like a missile and intended to have a telling effect; “his parting shot was `drop dead’”; “she threw shafts of sarcasm”; “she takes a dig at me every chance she gets”.
Greg(i’m not 63 years old my mullet is)63
I can dig it. Its aicididly manefested it self into a flashback of trails that have givin perfect the hues of divininity of which the maintainence is quarterly to its own Cognizance that I am unaware of.
“I can dig it. Its aicididly manefested it self into a flashback of trails that have givin perfect the hues of divininity of which the maintainence is quarterly to its own Cognizance that I am unaware of.”
“Because you dont make any sense. Im asking questions because I have no fing idea what the hell youre talking about.”
“What is the middle name of the most famous right wing radical in the last 20 years.”
The answer is “T”.
Ernest T. Bass.
“I won’t throw no more of them thare rocks Andy. On that you have my word”
“Aw Andy. You never did say nothin about no bricks.”
Your lack of understanding does not diminish my ability to traverse your train of thought
Having said that I do realize the steep degredation of the moral charector that has seeped into the foundations holding the mind of society at bay with such abandon that the mangey feral cats will not tread so lightly as to have on out going appearance at mitagation to which a wetland can survive throughout total drainage of the indoor plumbing of gods creation, MAN.
If George Carlin gets half the tributes that Tim Russert has gotten over the past week then by god he will have recieved 10 times the tribute that Mother Teresa and Pope John Paul II recieved combined at the times of their deaths.
F^cken -A
G.S.A.H.A. says:
June 23rd, 2008 at 9:30 pm
The longest one sentence in the history of the “Think Again” blog. “,” MAN.
I hear ice cubes rollin’ around in a glass somewhere……
Frankly I thought I was alive during that time and listen to everything from Zep to Uriah Heep so on and so forth. But I can not name you one Iron Maiden song.
Then, obviously, you weren’t listening to enough music during this time.
Think about what you consider “crap music” right now. Now think about what your parents thought of your music.
I think I’ve come up with a new game. Well, not completely new, since it’s just modified trolling, but now you can quantify it with the wonderful “yes” “no” buttons that the Strib has put on its site. The object will be to have two posts on the same article that get, on the one hand, 100% “yes” clicks and, on the other, 100% “no” clicks. Like billiards, you’ve got to call your shots before posting them. Like, “I’m posting on Coleman column with suckmytoes and ilovekittens” (yes / no should be pretty easy to figure out).
I was just reading through the comments on a few articles, and most are so insipid that I thought someone’s got to make a game out of this to make it more interesting. Of course, once people get better at this, you can go for more complicated combinations, like 60/40 and 40/60 positive/negative on the same article, etc. I think I’ll do some test runs incognito. 100% positive would be pretty easy, I think, for example “God bless our courageous firefighters” would work in just about any column, but 100% negative could be a challenge.
Minnesota Teacher of the Year Resigns.
“No one has walked in her shoes, so we can’t really judge her decision, but we CAN salute the efforts of ALL our teachers in an essential-but-thankless job!!”
That’s a 92% positive right there.
“10 times the tribute that Mother Teresa and Pope John Paul II recieved combined at the times of their deaths.”
Good point. What’s the average salary of those basketball stars–and what was the ’salary’ for Mother Teresa or the Pope? How much does a paramedic earn? Guess we know where society’s priorities are?
Rabbit-I don’t like the whole “athletes get paid too much” argument. Those athletes bring in a ton of money, and that money has to go somewhere. Why shouldn’t a sizeable chunk of it go to the people who’re bringing that money in?
“Think about what you consider “crap music” right now. Now think about what your parents thought of your music.”
My old man had a chance to be a concert violinist in his younger days. He picked it backup when I was in my teens. Black Sabbath at full volume on the “family stereo” scared the crap out of him.
Did I say “crap music”, maybe I did. But it did all sound alike to me. But it was lacking in ingenuity and uniqueness. The 90’s bands brought that back.
I hear you, DJ. The players are paid by their fans. The flow of money keeps the economy strong.
I just meant that we take for granted the people that save our lives; and big bucks goes into sports and entertainment. You make a lot more money playing ball than you do running into burning buildings.
I definitely hear what you’re saying Rabbit. And in a Utopian world, all the athletes and actors would be paid decent wages and the rest would go to the police, firefighters, teachers and various other charities. But keep in mind that almost all of these super rich superstars do donate to charities or start their own. Maybe not as much as they should, but neither do I.
I just wish people wouldn’t blame athletes for making so much. If someone wanted to pay me $20 mil a year to play basketball, I certainly wouldn’t turn them down.
Tiny, you didn’t say “crap music.” That was an assumption on my part. I think there is a lot of great unique rock that came from the 80’s. But we may just have to accept that we have different music tastes, which is fine.
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