
But now the party is winding down, and a nasty economic hangover appears to be setting in. Home values in Minneapolis dropped 6.1 percent last year, and the city’s property tax base has shrunk for the first time since the mid-1990s. Minnesota lost 23,000 jobs in the last six months of 2007.
That’s not to mention rising food prices, and the $3.29 per gallon of gas punch to your wallet’s solar plexus. If you’re trying to help a son or daughter through college, you know that tuition and fees at public and private universities rose at double the inflation rate in 2007.
Minnesotans are facing real economic challenges, and there’s some justification for both private and government efforts to soften the sharp edges.
But before we declare an economic emergency and demand a “New Deal” for the new millennium, let’s remember a classic American resource that was in ample supply 75 years ago, when unemployment was not 5.1 percent, but 25 percent.
Back then, only about 44 percent of folks owned their homes, compared to two-thirds in 2000. Financing college usually wasn’t a pressing problem, because college was beyond the reach of all but a fortunate few.
If you know people who grew up in the Great Depression and started adult life in the 1940s, you’ve heard about this resource. It was an attitude, a set of expectations — the “glass half full” view of life.
I learned something about it from a practical joker and his wife — John and Jeanne Kersten of Fairfield, Calif., my mom and dad.
One story says it all. After they got engaged in 1949, my dad sent my mom a photo of what he said was the starter home he had purchased for them in Topeka, Kan. In actuality, it wasn’t a house, but a broken-down garage in dire need of paint and shingles.
My mother didn’t get the joke. Instead, she was thrilled, and made the rounds of family and friends to show off the photo. “I was proud that this would be our first home,” she said. “I didn’t expect to own a home because my parents never had. I was so pleased that John had bought a place.” She was amazed when my dad laughed and informed her that the photo was a joke.
My parents’ first house was not a garage, but an 850-square-foot bungalow. In 1952, they moved up to a 960-square-foot, three-bedroom home in Fort Dodge, Iowa. Within several years, they had five children there, with a bunk bed and a crib in one bedroom, and two cribs in another.
My dad drove my parents’ Dodge to work. “We never dreamed we’d own a second car,” my mother said. But in 1953, they scraped together the cash for another vehicle — a pre-war Ford on its last legs. “We parked it on the street, where the milkman could give me a push if I needed it,” she said.
Life was good, my folks tell me, despite their shoestring budget. My mother, in particular, never thought of complaining. Why should she, when her life was so much easier than her own parents’ had been?
In 1899, her dad, Ray Montgomery, had lost his father at age 14 in a railroad accident. As a result, he had to quit school in eighth grade and take his mother and siblings to the high desert of Colorado to homestead. There, his little sisters had to carry water half a mile to their sod house, and four of his siblings died of ailments such as influenza and scarlet fever before they reached adulthood.
College? As a young man, he never dreamed of it. After retiring at age 65, he finally enrolled at a university and graduated at 69.
Minnesotans with memories such as these remind us that hardship is relative. After all our struggles are tallied up, we still enjoy a prosperity that would dazzle those who came before us.
Above all, we’re reminded that our greatest resource is a “glass half full” perspective that says that a garage is a mansion.
What a great story to remind us all how fortunate we really are despite being told how bleak everything looks.
Katherine, what a wonderful column. I couldn’t agree more. And thanks for sharing the stories of your parents and grandparents, they are from an extraordinary generation. We can all learn from these people. Thanks again, E. Haskell.
Katherine,
Wonderful story thanks for sharing.
This is something my Father showed me years ago and I have passed on to my children. I consider it the best piece of advice I have every received:
The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life.
Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company… a church… a home.
The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past… we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude… I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.
And so it is with you… we are in charge of our attitudes.
-Charles Swindoll
Thanks Katherine!
We can learn so much from what our parents and grandparents went through.
While I was in the midst of the divorce, my sister, mom and dad all sat down to dinner together. It was rare to have just us together without kids or spouses, just the four of us like when I was a kid.
My parents talked about when a tough time in their lives when I was about 2 years old. My sister was in the hospital a lot because they thought she had a degenerative muscle disease (it turned out it was just something wrong with the tendons in her foot). Soon after, my dad lost his job. It was during the 70s. It was a similar time to now where the housing wasn’t great and interest rates were high. Our family relocated to a lot in the country next to my grandparents house. My dad did get a new job and our family survived.
It was healing for us as a family to recognize what we’ve gone through and that we have persevered.
If we look at history, we’ve been through tough times before. How did we as Americans make it through the high gas prices of the 70s? How did we make it through World Wars?
The glass half full for me in our current economy is that it gives us an opportunity to rethink the way we live and to learn from previous generations.
We as Americans are inventive and creative. Let’s use those assets to make our country stronger.
GypsyBiker I’m tellin’ Ya…pushing to join BM and Newbiz as the Most Annoying people on the Planet.
Katherine,
Great story–the idea of entitlement is a huge problem in this country and with this generation. That is why I think the biggest issue in the next election is which candidate encourages self-reliance and personal responsibility, rather than “here’s what the government can do for you (with other people’s money).”
GypsyBiker Why don’t you find a blog where everyone enjoys their government benefits. There maybe you can exchange stories about how rough you have it and how unfair things are.
A mutual pissing pot of Sad Saps…you’ll feel right at home.
Tiny, relax…it was a good column…I was just having a little fun. It’s like saying I care about anything you have to say.
My grandparents got rich short selling and timing the market during the depression. They left me millions. I never had any problems. Whats that like?
Tluck,
A positive attitude is important and very valuable. But it isnt more valuable than super powers. If I could fly and melt things with beems of light from my eyes, that would be awesome. Id add being able to breathe underwater. That would be cool too.
4B, I thought they bootlegged with Joe Kennedy?
Then don’t reply to my post then you twit. Anyhow it was a poor attempt at being funny. That’s okay GypsyBiker Karl Marx didn’t have much of sense of humor either.
Maybe Moveon has a funny “joke of the day” today. Maybe it’s the one about Al not paying his taxes.
“A positive attitude is important and very valuable. But it isnt more valuable than super powers. If I could fly and melt things with beems of light from my eyes, that would be awesome. Id add being able to breathe underwater. That would be cool too.”
Go Medium. I wish I could talk to ghosts. That would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
Im kidding. My great grandmother ran a boarding house in Hibbing for miners. One grandfather worked in the mines as a kid and was a boiler engineer later on. My other grandfather was a surveyor for the county and made maps for highways. Both grandmothers were house wives.
This is a good column today, thanks Katherine!
“A positive attitude is important and very valuable. But it isnt more valuable than super powers. If I could fly and melt things with beems of light from my eyes, that would be awesome. Id add being able to breathe underwater. That would be cool too.”
Super-strength wouldn’t be bad either. But I think, above all, I would want super-speed so I could run like the Flash.
Tiny, the message of the column is that attitude is important and to look at things as the glass being half full. Obviously, for you to open up with an attack on me means, like most things in life, the whole point of KK’s column went right over your head. Maybe I can rephrase it in language you understand….look at the cross as half burnt.
With today’s Media and Looney website we are surround by people who want us to be part of their own negative “self full-filling prophecy”
They are on our TV’s, in our papers and on our Blogs. You know the people who repeat the standard lines of misery they read and scold the rest of us for trying to look at the positive things.
I mean how in the world can you have a positive outlook when there are so many people struggling in our “Made up Misery Land”
“look at the cross as half burnt.”
Oh thats nice..you’re a real piece of work.
“Super-strength wouldn’t be bad either. But I think, above all, I would want super-speed so I could run like the Flash.”
Okay so while you’re weaving in and out of traffic, dodging pedestrians and GHS on her bike, Ill be flying and melting things with my eyes.
Tiny
Stop pickin on gypsy
Gypsy
It was your eddie h. referance that was boarding on bad taste. It made your post seem like you were faking it.
Everyone else.
Entitlements. Thats the difference between today and yesteryear.
People think they are entitled to a job, etc. People think the world (or gov’t) owes them a living.
GypsyBiker Your continuing references to me as a racists just shows the level of intellect you have. You’re at the MOVEON/Kos intellect. Not something I’d be real proud of if I was you.
“GHS on her bike”
I’m 100% male.
oh
what kind of super power would i want. Hmmm…last time I contemplated that question I wanted invisibility. So I could sneak into the girls lockerroom.
Well, I did say the last time I contemplated that, which was when I was a kid!!!
In other words, its a childish topic. Could we move on to more adult themes?
“Made up Misery Land”
I heard thats the newest edition to DisneyWorld. Its right between Fantasy Land and Adventure Land. I guess the coolest ride there is Mr. Toads Wild Ride to Universal Health Care.
“I’m 100% male.”
Real male or some new religion make up your own sexual identity male?
The glass is half full…
I was diagnosed with a serious, chronic illness last summer, so for me, this topic is one that is important. In addition to the possibility of a shorter life expectancy, and being unable to do everything I used to be able to do, my health is now dependent on taking ten different prescription meds.
Seeing that glass as half full can be difficult some times, but when I’m in need of a mood elevation, all I need to do is look at the patient info sheets for these meds, and look at the side effects.
Eight meds cause nausea. Not really as bad as it sounds, just
because being nauseous doesn’t mean you’re definitely
going to vomit.
Five meds cause diarrhea - No problem at all. Since eight meds cause nausea, I’ll be in the bathroom anyway. Even more uplifting, my toilet and sink are right next to each other.
Four meds cause vomiting…. This is good
news, only 50% as much as the nausea.
If eight meds cause nausea, and I only puke four times, that means I didn’t puke four times.
Four meds cause dizziness - While this could cause problems making it to the
toilet without falling and hurting myself, four other meds cause drowsiness/fatigue, which means I’ve
probably already fallen asleep on the toilet while crapping my guts out, so if the nausea does lead to
vomiting, I don’t need to get up and run to the toilet.
Three meds cause constipation….another positive, as it’s an important counterbalance
to the diarrhea. With $200 plus in prescriptions, my toilet
paper budget is limited.
Finally, one med causes belching, one flatulance….This is really
more your problem, not mine.
The positives should be clear to everyone.
Looking at the side effects as a whole instead of individually , and I average out pretty normal!
Seriously, I could spend evvery day feeling sorry for myself, but my health issues will still be there.
I’d rather laugh, it’s healthier.
Life is what you make of it.
Do the people out there in blogland who seem to spend every waking hour outraged, ranting and raving
about Bush, global warming, the war, and whatever else is the issue of the month, understand this?
“Real male or some new religion make up your own sexual identity male?”
Real male. No desire to be anything but. No desire to be a metrosexual. No desire to wax or shave.
I like my Lutheran hymns old school somber, not any of this “contemporary worship” crap.
I like my Lutheran hymns old school somber, not any of this “contemporary worship” crap.
I say Amen to that.
I don’t personally believe in the concept of damnation, but if there is a Hell and I go there, I’ll bet you Dollars to Donuts that the loudspeakers are blaring contemporary Christian Praise music, 24-7-eternity.
MOI, yesterday, we all had a continuing discussion about “being nice” today. Because I often disagree with KK, I threw in the Eddie Haskell reference as a carry-over reference to insincere politeness. Despite other people’s attempts to make something more out of it than that, that’s all it was. If that’s your idea of “bad taste”, you’re certainly entitled to that opinion, we’ll just have to disagree.
“No desire to wax or shave.”
So you must look like Grisley Adams then. But on a bike.
Do the people out there in blogland who seem to spend every waking hour outraged, ranting and raving
about Bush, global warming, the war, and whatever else is the issue of the month, understand this?
Translation: I’m better than all of you because I’m sick and I manage to never bitch about anything.
Mthalo, thousands of people go through this. Good for you and your outlook and positive (?) attitude. Do you want a medal or is it satisfying enough for you up there on your victim pedestal?
Gypsy
I did use the word ‘appear’ in my post - I for one, thought you were being sincere and the eddie was referencing something else.
Mthalo
Thank you for your post. I am amazed at how you are coping.
“So you must look like Grisley Adams then. But on a bike.”
Bingo. I do trim my beard however.
Mthalo, keep up the positive attitude. It helps with healing.
tanks
I did not read mthalo’s blog as him (or is it her) being a victim. I read it to mean he is saying he is not a victim.
What I find interesting is that you saw it as a victim post. What led you to see it as a victim post. Was it the topic, word phrasing, etc.
The more specific the better. (I know its not the best medium, the blog, but please try your best)
“Translation: I’m better than all of you because I’m sick and I manage to never bitch about anything. ”
Tanks, I do my share of bitching
I’m better than you for different reasons.
Re-read my post, and if you still don’t get it, feel free to ask me for help.
MOI, then what we had was a “failure to communicate”. With one exception, I don’t usually intend to personally attack people…it’s not productive and it drags down the discussion….for instance, yesterday I was put off by a comment from stevek that I perceived as “Christian=good, Muslim=bad”, so I took a cheapshot at Catholics with a pedophile joke. I felt bad because I think FC took it personally. My point was I think every religion, not just Islam, has elements in its flock that it should be ashamed of.
Gypsy
I surmised that from you even before yesterday’s incident. And if you recall I jumped in and tried to disuade FC being miffed at the comment. Then of course, just like I suspected, you posted an explanation to FC. BTW - I loved your using my idiotic mistypes and word choices in your follow up.
So that is why I used the word appears. I suspected you were not meaning your whole post was fake - I was just pointing out that it might appear that way.
Sorry everyone, I was trying to be nice today, but I don’t think it’s nice to blog about puking, diarrhea, nausea, etc and then slam everyone on here. Gestapo Blog Lady is back.
Tanks
No worries.
Can I assume that it was the discussion of puking, diarrhea, nausea, etc. that led you to think it was a victim post?
“don’t usually intend to personally attack people”
Typical GypsyBiker BS…OH its not me its not me.. I’m just a poor Victim of “Tiny the name-caller”
This wasn’t your first attempt at being humorous. I guess the things you find funny such as traditional American life and dead Christian young ladies aren’t funny to me.
tanks, the glass is half full…in your case, I’d suggest tequila…I find it usually takes the edge off.
“Cross half burnt”
Snort*snicker*snicker HA
Hey Tiny - you do your fair share of name calling too.
Wait I don’t think that is the path to take here…..let me think…..
Oh I got one.
Tiny - MAN UP - take what gypsy says with a grain of salt or a shot of whiskey or whatever. Quit being like some other people on this Blog. You dish it good, now take it good.
Otherwise you cease being tiny.
“in your case, I’d suggest tequila”
or midol.
oh and tiny.
If my ramblings about being offended yesterday by some comments or about being effected by EBF, then let me enlighten you.
They were an attempt at humor. They were an attempt to show how idiotic, I think, people being ‘hurt’ by someone else on a blog is. ITS A BLOG. get over it.
What I say, or anyone else says on here, does NOT effect your life (unless you let it)
Stop being a victim and get a sense of humor.
marketplace_of_ideas says:
April 17th, 2008 at 10:06 am
tanks
I did not read mthalo’s blog as him (or is it her) being a victim. I read it to mean he is saying he is not a victim.
What I find interesting is that you saw it as a victim post. What led you to see it as a victim post. Was it the topic, word phrasing, etc.
The more specific the better. (I know its not the best medium, the blog, but please try your best)
MOI, what’s up?
Well, the reason I read it as a victim crying out was probably because it was 90% whiny bs about common side effects of some medication (and not everyone who takes the same medications has the same side effects, fyi) and 5% “i’m a hero because i don’t whine about this and 5% slamming the other bloggers.
I agree 100% of the laughing because it’s healthier and life is what you make it.
I just found it kind of hypocritical that he/she lists out all these terrible things, what he/she goes through and slams us for bitching every day. What else do you do on a blog? He/she admitted him/herself! “I bitch just as much as anyone else.” Good for you, then don’t come down on everyone else for it, genius.
Then, I love this, “I’m better than you for a multitude of reasons.” Really? I’m glad you feel that way because you know me SO well and can make that judgement. Oy vey.
Where did this assumption come from that I like tequila? I’ll take some BV or Seagrams anyday over that yuckiness. Maybe even some Jack.
G.S.A.H.A. says:
April 17th, 2008 at 10:29 am
“in your case, I’d suggest tequila”
or midol.
LOL, shut up and get your backwards hat on and drive off in yer pick up truck
Tiny here let me post this to help you understand what a real man is….
Note: All “real men” answer “C” to all of these questions. Know this, and you will have come far in understanding us and enriching your own life.
1. Alien beings from a highly advanced society visit the Earth, and you are the first human they encounter. As a token of intergalactic friendship, they present you with a small but incredibly sophisticated device that is capable of curing all disease, providing an infinite supply of clean energy, wiping out hunger and poverty, and permanently eliminating oppression and violence all over the entire Earth. You decide to:
A. Present it to the President of the United States.
B. Present it to the Secretary General of the United Nations.
C. Take it apart.
2. As you grow older, what lost quality of your youthful life do you miss the most?
A. Innocence.
B. Idealism.
C. Cherry bombs.
3. When is it okay to kiss another male?
A. When you wish to display simple and pure affection without regard for narrow-minded social conventions.
B. When he is the pope. (Not on the lips.)
C. When he is your brother and you are Al Pacino and this is the only really sportsman-like way to let him know that, for business reasons, you have to have him killed.
4. What about hugging another male?
A. If he’s your father and at least one of you has a fatal disease.
B. If you’re performing the Heimlich maneuver. (And even in this case, you should repeatedly shout: “I am just dislodging food trapped in this male’s trachea! I am not in any way aroused!”)
C. If you’re a professional baseball player and a teammate hits a home run to win the World Series, you may hug him provided that: (1) He is legally within the base path, (2) Both of you are wearing sufficient protection, and (3) You also pound him fraternally with your fist hard enough to knock him on his ass.
5. In your opinion, the ideal pet is:
A. A cat.
B. A dog.
C. A dog that eats cats.
6. You have been seeing a woman for several years. She’s attractive and intelligent, and you always enjoy being with her. One leisurely Sunday afternoon the two of you are taking it easy - you’re watching a football game; she’s reading the papers - when she suddenly, out of the clear blue sky, tells you that she thinks she really loves you, but, she can no longer bear the uncertainty of not knowing where your relationship is going. She says she’s not asking whether you want to get married; only whether you believe that you have some kind of future together. What do you say?
A. That you sincerely believe the two of you do have a future, but you don’t want to rush it.
B. That although you also have strong feelings for her, you cannot honestly say that you’ll be ready anytime soon to make a lasting commitment, and you don’t want to hurt her by holding out false hope.
C. That you cannot believe the Jets called a draw play on third and seventeen.
7. Okay, so you have decided that you truly love a woman and you want to spend the rest of your life with her - sharing the joys and the sorrows, the world has to offer, come what may. How do you tell her?
A. You take her to a nice restaurant and tell her after dinner.
B. You take her for a walk on a moonlit beach, and you say her name, and when she turns to you, with the sea breeze blowing her hair and the stars in her eyes, you tell her.
C. Tell her what?
8. One weekday morning your wife wakes up feeling ill and asks you to get your three children ready for school. Your first question to her is:
A. “Do they need to eat or anything?”
B. “They’re in school already?”
C. “There are three of them?”
9. When is it okay to throw away a set of veteran underwear?
A. When it has turned the color of a dead whale and developed new holes so large that you’re not sure which ones were originally intended for your legs.
B. When it is down to eight loosely connected underwear molecules and has to be handled with tweezers.
C. It is never okay to throw away veteran underwear. A real guy checks the garbage regularly in case somebody-and we are not naming names, but this would be his wife-is quietly trying to discard his underwear, which she is frankly jealous of, because the guy seems to have a more intimate relationship with it than with her.
10. What, in your opinion, is the most reasonable explanation for the fact that Moses led the Israelites all over the place for forty years before they finally got to the Promised Land?
A. He was being tested.
B. He wanted them to really appreciate the Promised Land when they finally got there.
C. He refused to ask for directions.
EXTRA CREDIT QUESTION:
What is the human race’s single greatest achievement?
A. Democracy.
B. Religion.
C. Remote control.
Tanks,
Thanks for the post.
I see how you can see that he was listing them as if to say - hey I could se all this bad but I don’t.
I guess I saw him listing the side effects ofr a different reason. I saw him listing them as a necessary vehicle for a joke.
I don’t think his joke would have played if he didn’t list the side effects.
Also, I don’t think that listing things necessarily makes you wanting to garner sympathy or what nought. But I do understand that sometimes people list things for that type of reason (and we all remember when I jumped on another blogger who listed things for other reasons) I just didn’t see mthalo’s list as one of those types of list.
So to take this back to KK’s original column….I do agree with her about the hardships endured by earlier generations. Do most people think those generations had it harder? I’d point out a couple of things that were easier for that generation……first, I think there were more good-paying manufacturing jobs back then, making it easier to be successful even if you couldn’t afford an education. Second, it was easier to raise a family on one income back then.
Gypsy
While its true there were ‘good paying manufacturing jobs’ that didn’t require education. That could not go on forever. The byproduct of advancing society is that the people in that society advance also.
Nowadays, jobs that were more manual are done by machines, actual jobs require more education, the general populus is becoming more educated, etc. etc.
While the good ol days are nice to remember - those ‘jobs’ back then are no longer and we need to look at how today and tomorrow we can be productive.
MOI, point taken, thanks. I guess my working in the health care field and listening to this type of …. discourse has hardened me to this type of suffering. There are so many worse things out there than dealing with this.
I didn’t think he was joking about have an illness or the side effects of the med. Again, probably due to where I work.
Thanks for your insight, and for not jumping all over me.
“Sorry everyone, I was trying to be nice today, but I don’t think it’s nice to blog about puking, diarrhea, nausea, etc and then slam everyone on here.”
Only you know for sure why you think I slammed YOU personally.
Does “If eight meds cause nausea, and I only puke four times, that means I didn’t puke four times” sound like the words of someone making a serious play for sympathy?
My point is this, and it’s something that people of KK’s parent’s generation seemed to have a much easier time understanding.
Happiness and optimism are NOT entitlements. They are, and always will be, something you have to work for. Sometimes you have to work hard for them.
Not long ago, if you said “I’m not happy”, you’d hear “life is what you make of it.”
Today, you’ll hear, “go get a prescription for Wellbutrin”
Today, the prevailing attitude seems to be “the world owes me…”
Tanks, no problem,
I could not imagine working in the health field and dealing with that on a daily basis. I barely make it through dealing with my hard luck cases etc. My hats off to you.
As for your post, thanks for helping me understand. As you may have noticed before, I try to root out all the fake ‘i am a victim’ type people and posts on this blog. I thought maybe one was getting past me. As I am sure you have seen there are real victims out in the world. Ones I saw everyday who have had their lives ripped apart or taken by actual bad people. murders, rapist, etc.
Anyway, I digress….what were we last talkin’ about.
Oh yeah - tiny - have you manned up yet or do we need to get you into EBF’s support group?
I did not read mthalo’s blog as him (or is it her) being a victim.
Sun-Thurs - Him
Friday-Saturday - Her
MOI I call people Fruitcake, morons on and on
I DON’T CALL PEOPLE RACISTS…big difference.
That sh^ts OUT OF LINE..PERIOD.
Unless you want to open this blog up to some real name-callin’..then lets go.
mthalo - seriously?
That would mean that your serious chronic illness is probably ..one or the other acronym illness…..sh^t that s^cks!!!
Thanks for the article Katherine.
It’s always good to take a step back and remember the things that truly matter in life, to get back to the basics.
And the superpower I’ve been wishing for lately, is the ability to sleep with my eyes open, at my desk.
Tiny
Got off it - I’ve been called a racist too.
Seriously grow a pair.
Who cares what they call you. Battle back with something more. But don’t sit back and whine..he called me a racist,,he called me a racist…
What are you hoping the blog mother comes in and gives gypsy a blog time out?
Tanks: “What else do you do on a blog?”
I’m going to go with have a well-reasoned discussion about the topic of the day based on logic and respect for the difference of opinions amongst the readers of the blog. But I digress.
KK, let me echo my thanks for the stories of your parents and grandparents. It is true that we do need to have a “half-full” attitude during times of economic hardship.
However, I don’t think that’s the largest problem. In order for individuals to be able to have a “half-full” attitude, the government must first be realistic about the economic landscape. This hasn’t happened. And when we hear the President continue to assure the American public that we are not in a recession, everything is fine, our wish to have a “half-full” attitude is upstaged by the common human attitude of denial and ignorance of the hard facts of their reality.
So, let’s first concentrate and pressure our government to be more upfront with the constituents about the realities–and on the day when the American Dollar has reached a record low while oil hits a record high, it’s time those in power treat us with respect and the truth.
“I guess my working in the health care field and listening to this type of …. discourse has hardened me to this type of suffering. There are so many worse things out there than dealing with this.”
That’s my whole point right there, things could be much worse.
I question whether the people that are ranting and raving every day about Bush etc. ever take a deep breath and consider how good we have it here, living in America. Even the poorest people in the USA have a standard of living superior to most of the world
Great real man test MOI.
I cut/paste it and e-mailed it to everyone in the office. They love it. They think I’m so witty and smart for writing it.
Idiots.
I’m sorry folks I don’t mind liberal humor..But I can’t stand condescending liberal humor. I don’t like being called racists…
G
I think it was wasted on Tiny. Whats up with Tiny today?
“mthalo - seriously?”
Nah!, I’m male all week.
“Whats up with Tiny today?”
I think tiny and tanks are eating out of the same half empty trough today. Oink Oink
Only you know for sure why you think I slammed YOU personally.
Oh, mthalo, I know you weren’t slamming me personally, just all our mutual blog friends. And yourself, too… Oy vey.
Right here:
Do the people out there in blogland who seem to spend every waking hour outraged, ranting and raving
about Bush, global warming, the war, and whatever else is the issue of the month, understand this?
This might be a tad offensive. But, i’m like katherine - rhino skin.
“yuckiness”
What happened to the Blog Gestapo Beyotch that we all love so much?
MOI, I understand about manufacturing jobs and why they are gone. My point was I think that’s one area where Baby Boomers have it tougher than our parents did. It used to be you had an easier time finding a “good” job without having to incur the cost of an education…today, not so much.
“Mthalo, thousands of people go through this. Good for you and your outlook and positive (?) attitude. Do you want a medal or is it satisfying enough for you up there on your victim pedestal? ”
THERE SHE IS!!
pushing to join BM and Newbiz as the Most Annoying people on the Planet.
A mutual pissing pot of Sad Saps…you’ll feel right at home.
That’s okay GypsyBiker Karl Marx didn’t have much of sense of humor either. Maybe Moveon has a funny “joke of the day” today.
……But I can’t stand condescending liberal humor.
Honest to frickin’ God, what a hypocritical moron!
Thanks for this mthalo - I agree.
I question whether the people that are ranting and raving every day about Bush etc. ever take a deep breath and consider how good we have it here, living in America. Even the poorest people in the USA have a standard of living superior to most of the world
ajlingo says:
April 17th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Tanks: “What else do you do on a blog?”
I’m going to go with have a well-reasoned discussion about the topic of the day based on logic and respect for the difference of opinions amongst the readers of the blog. But I digress.
Wow, look at you go. Good luck with that on this blog.
BTW, I agree with your post and second it.
ajlingo
I’m going to go with have a well-reasoned discussion about the topic of the day based on logic and respect for the difference of opinions amongst the readers of the blog.
Welcome to the blog – you have an excellent reason for this blog, however this blogger fails more than succeeds.
However, I don’t think that’s the largest problem. In order for individuals to be able to have a “half-full” attitude, the government must first be realistic about the economic landscape. This hasn’t happened. And when we hear the President continue to assure the American public that we are not in a recession, everything is fine, our wish to have a “half-full” attitude is upstaged by the common human attitude of denial and ignorance of the hard facts of their reality.
So, let’s first concentrate and pressure our government to be more upfront with the constituents about the realities–and on the day when the American Dollar has reached a record low while oil hits a record high, it’s time those in power treat us with respect and the truth.
This could be boiled down into one sentence. The gov’t is lying. While I appreciate your post, I think you need to come up with more than that. People in gov’t are always going to put up the best face for the constituents. That’s what they do. Doesn’t matter what side is in power. Gov’t has always done that and always will. What we need is for more of America to be better at discerning the truth from what gov’t says.
If I were to lose everything, house, job, everything, I’m going to get a job at Subway so I can make sandwiches for the Bankers.
What? You want extra cheese on that? Yes sir.
Haauuck Snort Haauuck Toowee.
Gypsy
good point - yes it is harder to ‘make’ a living in that aspect.
“What? You want extra cheese on that? Yes sir.
Haauuck Snort Haauuck Toowee.”
You know what I do? I stink palm the pen. Be nice to your banker.
“If I were to lose everything, house, job, everything, I’m going to get a job at Subway so I can make sandwiches for the Bankers.”
Too funny! don’t forget to dye your hair purple and keep the dirt under your nails. A bull ring in the nose would probably help too. Then 4 can blog about you every day.
“I stink palm the pen.”
Oh Man!!!! Gage reflex, Urkle.
I have been looking for a good lawyer joke in response to elle’s yesterday.
How is this one.
You Need A New Lawyer When…
1. During your initial consultation he tries to sell you Amway.
2. He tells you that his last good case was a “Budweiser.”
3. When the prosecutors see who your lawyer is, they high-five each other.
4. He picks the jury by playing “duck-duck-goose.”
5. During the trial you catch him playing his Gameboy.
6. He asks a hostile witness to “pull my finger.”
7. A prison guard is shaving your head.
8. Every couple of minutes he yells, “I call Jack Daniels to the stand!”
and proceeds to drink a shot.
9. He frequently gives juror No. 4 the finger.
10. He places a large “No Refunds” sign on the defense table.
11. He begins closing arguments with, “As Ally McBeal once said …”
12. He keeps citing the legal case of Godzilla v. Mothra.
13. Just before trial starts he whispers, “The judge is the one with the
little hammer, right?”
14. Just before he says “Your Honor,” he makes those little quotation marks
in the air with his fingers.
15. The sign in front of his law office reads “Practicing Law Since 2:25
PM.”
16. Whenever his objection is overruled, he tells the judge, “Whatever.”
17. He giggles every time he hears the word “briefs.”
“Whats up with Tiny today?”
He was born in the wagon of a travelin’ show
His mama used to dance for the money they’d throw
His Papa would do whatever he could
Preach a little gospel
Sell a couple bottles of doctored brew
Gypsies, tramps and thieves
He’d hear it from the people of the town
They’d call Him gypsies, tramps and thieves
But every night all the men would come around
And lay their money down……….
“A bull ring in the nose would probably help too.”
Elle,
I would have so much Bling in my face it would pull the refrigerator magnets off from across the room. Purple hair and green tatoos. Ya gotta dress for the part.
“pushing to join BM and Newbiz as the Most Annoying people on the Planet.
A mutual pissing pot of Sad Saps…you’ll feel right at home.
That’s okay GypsyBiker Karl Marx didn’t have much of sense of humor either. Maybe Moveon has a funny “joke of the day” today.
……But I can’t stand condescending liberal humor.
Honest to frickin’ God, what a hypocritical moron!
hypocritical?
GypsyPrick, do you see racists in there…do Ya GypsyPrick? No you don’t because thats a level that shouldn’t be Tolerated. But I guess I can see how calling you Sap might offend you.
Name-calling is name-calling..calling someone a racists …well that you should backup.
MOI: People in gov’t are always going to put up the best face for the constituents. That’s what they do. Doesn’t matter what side is in power. Gov’t has always done that and always will. What we need is for more of America to be better at discerning the truth from what gov’t says.
Agreed, totally. It is in the government’s best interest to put their best face forward. And it doesn’t matter what side is in power–both sides of the aisle are guilty of this.
But there’s a point where the blind reassurance that there isn’t an issue, as opposed to saying “yes, the economy is in a hard place right now, these are the steps we’re going to take to fix it”, is doing more harm than good because we as Americans want to believe that our economy is strong, our stance in the global economy is still top (which it isn’t–the EU passed us up a few months ago), etc. etc.
Individuals can only be expected to change so much in their fiscal behaviors when the message is “business as usual”.
Go-
Don’t forget a diamond studded, gold grill for your teeth–oops, i mean teef.
MOI - I don’t think I could ever deal with people as a lawyer - esp in the public sector. Give me needles and urine any day over that!
hee hee 4blah says stinkpalm… hee hee
ajlingo
Individuals can only be expected to change so much in their fiscal behaviors when the message is “business as usual”.
Here is where you and I differ.
I expect alot more out of people. I expect them to have their own personal responsibility. I expect them to change their fiscal behavior because of what they see and hear not from what they are told from gov’t. If gov’t is saying one thing and they blindly follow -its not the gov’t’s fault - its the peoples!! The people are 100% responsible for their fiscal behaviors!
By you advocating that gov’t is somehow reponsible, even if just a little, it takes the responsibility off the people.
So tell me exactly why you are the one to decide what level of name-calling should be tolerated? Maybe I’ll decide that and I’m gonna keep callin you a racist.
Want me to back it up? Where should I even start? Go back to your heartless, racist remarks about the security contractor killed in Iraq. I asked you numerous times to explain your remark and you refused to do it. Why? Because you’re a coward and a racist! It hurts your sensibilities? Tough sh/t!
MOI– way better joke than mine. Maybe you’re not such a bad guy after all……
“Go back to your heartless, racist remarks about the security contractor killed in Iraq. I asked you numerous times to explain your remark and you refused to do it. Why?”
Hey what the f^ck are you talking about..I stopped and paid my respect to him at the Funeral home along with a couple of hundred other people. .. I didn’t see you there you Prick…………….
Hey why don’t you kiss my @ss.
I didn’t mean the same way as you did when you tried to create your liberal humor out of the death of a young lady just because she belong to church.
That was funny sh^t your Prick
I would never try to make a joke out of any kid that killed…no matter who.
The moment that post hit the blog I knew you where a sick liberal condescending Prick.
Tiny
Your hot button is being called a racist. Best you get a new hot button because now the other side knows it and will use it ad nausum just to get you riled up.
What were you an only child?
I predict one or more blog name changes in the near future.
I was thinking of changing mine to….Blog Bully
“I predict one or more blog name changes in the near future.”
Hey If KK ever Kills me again I have Dibs on “Man Up”
Tiny, you claim you went to the memorial…wow, that nails it…did ya go with all the black people you know? Again, you purposely avoided answering the question.
Go ahead and take your shots. I’m tired of it. You and everyone else knows my opinion of you and it ain’t gonna change. I’m done with it….the glass is half full!!
G
You take that and I will make your wish come true except that it will be you and not someone else who I sue into oblivian.
Man up, personal responsibility, blog bully are all mine, mine, I tell you. And if you or anyone else tries to take them with your grubby little paws, I will whack you so hard with the legal system, your tail will crawl backup into your back side.
MOI,
You are the Biff Tannon of the Blog world.
“Man up, personal responsibility, blog bully are all mine, mine”
I don’t see a patent or trademark
OK MOI, Hands off. They are yours. I’ll be “Bodily Function”.
I didn’t see mthalo’s 9:48 post as relating to a victim at all. He/She was saying that you could play a victim, but being positive is so much more productive. Laughing is healthier.
Reading mthalo’s whole post I read from 8 meds down the list. I was laughing out loud when I read what 5 meds do. The comment about one med really had me laughing.
I too, deal with chronic pain every day, but I’m gradually learning that being positive is the key to maintaining my days. One wise person (my dad) told me once that the day you stop learning is the day you are dead. Both of my folks are still living, dad is turning 80 this year and mom is turning 76. Two of my siblings have already died, so my dad knows what he’s talking about.
I love to laugh and enjoy making other people laugh. I’m what you would call an in-the-closet comedian. That’s why I enjoy Tiny Lites humor so much on this blog.
Ask ANY kid with cancer and they will voice the same thing mthalo commented at the very end of their post. “Do the people out there in blogland who seem to spend every waking hour outraged, ranting and raving
about Bush, global warming, the war, and whatever else is the issue of the month, understand this?” ANY kid will tell that these things do not matter in the big picture of life at all.
….the glass is half full!!
Now you’re calling me a lair.
Sure your glass is half full. Half full of your sh^t…and you keep it around so the room will smell like flowers.
I’m not tried of…pricks like you Deserver everything I can give.
“That’s why I enjoy Tiny Lites humor so much on this blog.”
Yep, he’s a real laugh riot today
“Go back to your heartless, racist remarks about the security contractor killed in Iraq. I asked you numerous times to explain your remark and you refused to do it. Why?”
Jesus Gypsy. Tiny thought his wife said something racist at a town hall meeting. Thinking she is racist doesnt make Tiny racist. It makes him incensitive. Give it a rest. Your being and @ss hole.
Yeah, not today Tiny isn’t, but to give him credit, most days he is.
Iamme,
I like your screan name. Very existential.
“Jesus Gypsy. Tiny thought his wife said something racist at a town hall meeting. Thinking she is racist doesnt make Tiny racist.”
No thats not what happened.
The guys wife went to the city councel asking for help paying he utility bills. They asked her what his family was doing to help and she replied they are doing nothing. there is tension with the families for whatever reason.
I think
Okay. Good info. Still Tiny thought she was being racist. Thinking she is racist doesnt make Tiny racist. It means he’s being Dr. Rev. T Lites.
But ya gotta consider the source. Buffalo is one big Payton Place.
I’ve been called a racist before.
I just think those people who call me that are insensitive to my feelings.
Obama isnt. He thinks your resentment is understandable.
“The people are 100% responsible for their fiscal behaviors!”
Now that gas prices are $3.40 the local news outlets will roll out the sob story about the person who commutes from Otsego to Lakeville in their low gas mileage vehicle. We’re supposed to feel sorry for this person for the decision they made to live where they live, work where they work, and drive what they drive.
Sorry, you should have thought about the situation where the price of gas goes above $2 a gallon.
Ok as long as we are rehashing. What was tiny referring to that gypsy said about osme lady and church?
“We’re supposed to feel sorry for this person for the decision they made to live where they live, work where they work, and drive what they drive.”
No but sometimes people live where they’re born, work where they can, and drive what they must.
iamme
I too, deal with chronic pain every day,
Calling your wife a “chronic pain” is not very nice. Expecially after she makes a pot pie for you!!
GHS
Wow - excellent. You are getting very good at pointing out personal responsibity. We are getting to be proud of you. ;)
Hi, all,
Not much time right now as I have to go price concrete block for a retaining wall.
Katherine, thanks for the reminiscences.
MOI, thank you for the joke. Hilarious!
Gypsy, I didn’t take it personally.
elle, sleeping with eyes open is a learned skill; I did it a lot at the U.
Here’s my lame joke for the day: a pessimist says the glass is half empty, an optimist says it is half full, an engineer says it is twice as big as it needs to be.
Thanks, folks. More later.
I wish I could ride a bike to work 45 miles one way but I can’t. I bought an fuel economy car to save money not the environment. I recycle what I can’t burn in the back burn pile to save money not the environment. I tell off color jokes because they are funny not because I’m a racist and beleive they’re true.
MOI MOI MOI
I really didn’t think I’d have to explain to you, an attorney, that there is a difference between “chronic pain” and “a chronic pain.
Quit twisting my words around blog bully.
Grow up.
YES! my day is not complete until soemone calls me a blog bully.
Hmmm….a guess we’re hittin’ a little too close to home for iamme. Sorry your wife doesn’t do exactly what you want when you say you want it. Hey I know a place down in Texas you could go.
Oh yeah - I’ll never grow up. Grown up only leads to grown old and dying and dying to me doesn’t sound like all that much fun.
I nominate MOI for the funny prize for today. How weird is that?
I just want to reiterate how important it is for us to see what we have in life rather than worrying about what we do not have. I would hope that I could have the character to be grateful for any roof over my head, even a dilapidated garage.
Maybe we are paying for our excesses with this economic downturn, and maybe it is time to reevaluate how big our house needs to be, how many TVs we need to have, and where we share our meals.
I think, too, it is time for our government to reevalute its excesses. Our elected officials have ALL done a poor job leading by example fiscally.
Although I am still disappointed that the LRT money was vetoed.
MOI, do you remember posting this on 10/25/07? Let me refresh your memory.
marketplace_of_ideas says:
October 25th, 2007 at 1:07 am
Wow - I thought that the blog dies after five.
Anyway
ISOW
What can I say - I am truly touched. Thank you. Again I think you have described my perfectly (although I did have to look up the word - brusque) and I so appreciate you helping me out in explaining my positions. If the truth be told - I am a groupie of yours. Your posts are always thought provoking and never offensive. And sometimes - you interject humor. I would do wise to aspire to how you post.
AP
I appreciate your comment about my posts. In addition, I will do my best to not participate in any further catfighting. I am sure it detracts from the message that I am trying to post. Nevertheless, I am glad that you are able to see through my garbage and still consider what I am posting.
iamme
I also appreciate your post. Tact has never been my strong point. I am flattered that that you do see me as having some knowledge of the law. Thank you. In the future, I will work hard so that my message is not clouded by my obvious shortcomings. For what its worth, I don’t believe I am conceited but I do see how some of my posts could be read that way. Again I will strive to do better.
MOI you’ve been a meanie from day one. You haven’t learned anything or changed anything. Bad habits must be hard for you to break…..
What ever happened to “In Search Of Wisdom” (ISOW)? Anybody Know?
Iamme
Hmmm..where to start.
OK lets see
meanie…Who uses ‘meanie’ - what are we in like second grade.
day one……so you post something from October 07 to prove your point, I was on this blog a lot earlier than that
been a meanie from day one…….what does the post you reposted have to do with being a meanie.
You haven’t learned anything or changed anything.
Again you use one post that is not relevant to try to justify your argument. nice try but you need to work on your logic skills.
Bad habits must be hard for you to break….
Well you would know about breaking bad habits…tell us how hard it was for you to break the bad habit of your wife of speaking back to you?
Also who has a post from october 07 at their finger tips ready to repost.
Man that is a little creepy.
Okay, I’m not sure if I missed something. I’m a little short on sleep, so it is possible.
But I truly thought the “a chronic pain” comment on MOI’s part was meant as a joke, and not a mean-spirited one.
Did I miss something? Can someone explain?
It was a joke and a potential barb.
You see last week iamme posted this - MOI has lost all credibility with me. And MOI, before you comment on what I just said, I said before that I’m fed up with all your comments. They’re meaningless.
So I was just seeing if he thought all of my comments were still meaningless. Looks iamme doesn’t think so since he is still responding to them.
Iamme
If you can’t stand to get jokes and barbs sent back at you then don’t be posting crap. Stop your bitchin’ and whinin’. Stand up and take it like a man if you dish it out.
“Expecially after she makes a pot pie for you!!”
Ive heard of pot brownies but this is a new one to me. Is this a sweet or savory pie?
It was a reference to “breakfast club” - of all the bloggers I thought you would get it.
Oh wait…your too young for that one aren’t you?
Notice MOI has not denied being a meanie. More non-denial denials.
I for one agree. From day one MOI has been a meanie, party pooper, wet blanket, soggy toast, mother, heel, rat pill, jerk, louse, packer fan, stinkard, SOB, misanthrope, hood, hooligan, and blog bully.
“I for one agree. From day one MOI has been a meanie, party pooper, wet blanket, soggy toast, mother, heel, rat pill, jerk, louse, packer fan, stinkard, SOB, misanthrope, hood, hooligan, and blog bully.”
You forgot Korn Holer
Ive seen the breakfast club many times.
You mean when Bender is talking about his “home” life and then says something like “now get back in the kitchen and make me a pot pie!”
That part?
WHOOOOOO WAIT A MINUTE
I AM NOT A PACKER FAN. I HATE THE PACKERS.
I AM A VIKINGS FAN!!!
“You forgot Korn Holer”
My bad. You did say -Packer Fan, same thing.
Mark
It was bender but he was mocking his father on how his father treats his mother.
I agree that MOI can be a meanie, but he had me laughing today. Maybe I need more sleep.
MOI,
Excuse me. I stand corrected. A pathetic, frustrated, meanie with an inferiority complex then.
you forgot ugly, lazy, and disrespectful
“you forgot ugly, lazy, and disrespectful”
And he’s a gerbil lover
“It was bender but he was mocking his father on how his father treats his mother.”
Yeah, the home life part. Now if you had said “this is what you get at my house when you spill paint in the garage”, I would have gotten it right off the bat.
You know what my old man got me for christmas? A carton of cigarrettes! Smoke ‘em up Johnny!
Hey MOI,
“So it’s sorta social, demented and sad, but social. Right?”
Kinda reminds me of this blog.
“That’s very clever, sir. But what if there’s a fire? I think violating fire codes and endangering the lives of children would be unwise at this juncture in your career, sir.”
“I nominate MOI for the funny prize for today. How weird is that?”
I agree– he’s on a roll today. Is it a full moon?
Elle - it’s definitely a full moon. That’s when all the crazies come looking for their narcs….
Hey tanks,
Whats todays rule about having a slutty attitude? Please check it at the door :)
“That’s when all the crazies come looking for their narcs….”
Or this blog!
“That’s when all the crazies come looking for their narcs….”
Now there’s another glass half full moment to getting sick. What they shot me up with before the surgery was so damn good, I was tempted to ask them to do an appendectomy just so I could get some more.
mthalo did they give you a button to push so you could self medicate yourself?
Man I got one of those. it was great.
mthalo, LOL nice!!!
GO, if I have to tell you to shut your pie hole one more time, i’m going to take my big ole cuban cigar and put it out on your forearm. Fore head. Or fore skyn…
*sizzle*
^
^
_______^
(_______#)
My cuban cigar.
“Now there’s another glass half full moment to getting sick.”
That was morphine. At least thats what they gave me when I had my appendectomy.
Which reminds me of a joke. Stop me if you’ve heard this one. What do you call a female to male sex change? An addadicktome!! Hey yo!!
Drat, that’s not very good is it?
Oh well. The gauntlet has been thrown.
Tanks- you have too much time :)
“i’m going to take my big ole cuban cigar and put it out on your forearm. Fore head. Or fore skyn…”
Tanks is that your best pickup line? What a flirty girty. HA
You know what bugs me about The Breakfast Club?
When Bender is crawling through the ceiling, he’s telling a joke about a naked lady coming into a bar with a duck under her arm… you never her the punchline. he falls through the ceiling tiles before he can finish.
Always wondered how the joke ended.
dub: here’s what I found from googling:
John Hughes: There isn’t one. That was the point.
Judd Nelson: I made the joke up. My line when I fall into the room is, “I forgot my pencil,” so we were trying to work backward from that, but what joke would have that punchline?
The bartender sez “Sorry but we don’t serve dogs in here.”
The lady replies “It’s not a dog it’s a duck.”
The barman responded “I’m not talking to you I’m talking to the duck.”
“That was morphine.”
No, I’m referring to the sedative that the anesthesiologist used to knock me into oblivion before the surgery.
I forget the name of it, but it was one that doesn’t knock you fully unconcious, but left you really, really sedate for a few hours.
The surgery itself was minor, the only painkiller I got afterward was percocet for about a day and a half.
Before my appendectomy I got morphine for pain.
I do have a lot of time, it’s super slow today except for the crazies.
I don’t use pick up lines. I bring in a bacon chalupa from Taco Bell and then I have to beat them off with sticks.
You know what’s some good stuff? Propofol.
I get a lot of endoscopies and always ask my doctor if he can slip me some. That’s some good stuff.
“I don’t use pick up lines. I bring in a bacon chalupa from Taco Bell and then I have to beat them off with sticks.”
Ouch!!! I guess if your beating them off with sticks they don’t need to wear a condom then
You know, I don’t understand how all these narcs are legal and they have the nerve to make marijuana and cocaine illegal. The stuff in those drugs is just as bad, if not worse.
4blahs,
After my speen thingy they were giving me some stuff the nurse said was 3 times stronger than morphine along with the morphine drip self medicater button.
Then they gave me 50 oxycottin and vicadin when I left the hospital. That oxy stuff would wipe me out. I still have about 40 of them left.
Yeah, that’s right. Come and get some raw stick! POW! Thwack! BAM!
Then they gave me 50 oxycottin and vicadin when I left the hospital. That oxy stuff would wipe me out. I still have about 40 of them left.
GSAHA: Who can take a sunrise
Sprinkle it in dew
Cover it in chocolate
and a miracle or two?
The candyman
The candyman can
The candyman can cause he mixes it with love and makes the world taste good
Who can take a rainbow
Wrap it is a sigh
Soak it in the sun
and make a strawberry lemon pie?
The candyman?
GSAHA: The candyman
The candyman can
The candyman can cause he mixes it with love and makes the world taste good
GSAHA makes
Everything he bakes
Satisfying and delicious
Talk about your childhood wishes
You can even eat the dishes
Who can take tomorrow
Dip it in a deam
Seperate the sorrow
And collect up all the cream?
The candyman
GSAHA can
The candyman can cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good
And the world tastes good cause the candyman thinks it should
That was pretty quick tanks.
Adios Sombreros.
Go-
You could make a few bucks. Street value for 1 oxy is about $45.
Please ignore that last post. Its actually about $1 per oxy. (stupid typing fingers)
“Which reminds me of a joke. Stop me if you’ve heard this one. What do you call a female to male sex change? An addadicktome!! Hey yo!!”
Hey…that reminds me-
Did you know that Lorena Bobbit was from Russia?
Her maiden name was Cutachunkoff.
ba-dum ching.
Have a good night everyone.
I’m blowin this popsicle stand.
Sorry that this is off topic, but it’s interesting.
**********************************
The annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in
the armed forces from 1980 through 2006:
1980 ………. 2,392 (Carter Year)
1981 …….. ..2,380 (Reagan Year)
1984 ………. 1,999 (Reagan Year)
1988 ………. 1,819 (Reagan Year)
1989 ………. 1,636 (George H W Year)
1990 ………. 1,508 (George H W Year)
1991 ………. 1,787 (George H W Year)
1992 ………. 1,293 (George H W Year)
1993 ………. 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
1994 ………. 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
1995 ………. 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
1996 ………. 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
1997 …………. 817 ( Clinton Year)
1998 ………. 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
1999 ………. 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
2000 ………..1,983 ( Clinton Year)
2001 …………. 890 (George W Year)
2002 ………. 1,007 (George W Year)
2003 ………. 1,410 (George W Year)
2004 ………. 1,887 (George W Year)
2005 ………….. 919 (George W Year)
2006…………… 920 (George W Year)
2007…………….899 (George W Year)
Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,107 deaths
George W years (2001-2006): 7,932 deaths
“After my speen thingy they were giving me some stuff the nurse said was 3 times stronger than morphine along with the morphine drip self medicater button.”
My friend was on that after a back surgery, and it cause him to try and convert me to Christianity.
“yyyyooouuu need t’embrath jethith. (click) Heeth th’ too meththiah, dude”
“Please ignore that last post. Its actually about $1 per oxy. (stupid typing fingers)”
That depends on whether you mean oxycodone, or oxycontin (the time-release form of oxycodone).
Oxycontins, or so I’ve heard, go for about $1 mer milligram, and come in tabs ranging from 10-160mg.
Sources for data are a good thing.
Or should we just take your word for it, d2si?
D2SI is lying - mice cut and paste buddy - see http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/deaths.asp
Hey eveyone,
I forgot to say that my 10:13 pm post yesterday was not intended to offend anyone and I hope it wasn’t taken that way by anyone.
My only regret is I did not find “Mthalo” a personally responsible Man up thing to do. Ya know like hand out pain medication or as a pain medication consultant. Yeah thats it.
MOI said-
“I have tried on more then one occasion to write something like that and have failed everytime.”
MOI the trick is to keep the mix and ice to a managable level as to not delute the personal responsible thought process of a man up kind of guy
.
In other words: 3 shots of vodka, 2 cubes of ice and a splash of tonic and orange juice. Zoom Zoom Zoom.
Katherine,
Thanks for not deleting my post and/or rounding up the dredges of your blog ala China Olympic Games crowd control prior to your parents visit.
“That depends on whether you mean oxycodone, or oxycontin (the time-release form of oxycodone).”
Mthalo,
I miss spoke earlier. I was sent home with 50 hits of…….. I mean a prescription of 50, 10 milligram oxycodone with instructions to take 3 every 3 hours. I could not follow the prescription.
I took 1/2 of one at bed time and was wiped out the whole next day. It was like - Schwing Batter Batter Batter.
Thank god for the vicodin. At least with that I could drink and still drive.
Katherine,
Now that we know that Ethanol is not a solution but a problem, could you do a piece on what it would take to correct this mess?
Just a suggestion from someone who respects your work. Thanks.
D@,
I do not claim to be an Ex-spert on fuel consumption but………
update and expand our oil refineries capabilities.
non-invasive Oil exploration in ANWR off the coastes of florida and california in areas now off limits.
Responsible Nuclear power plant expansion
Electric power transmition grid update and expansion
G.S.A.H.A.,
You mean don’t vote liberal democrat?
sent a ruff draft earlier
D2,
I do not claim to be an Ex-spert on fuel consumption but………
update and expand our oil refineries capabilities.
Electric power transmition grid update and expansion
Responsible Nuclear power plant expansion
non-invasive Oil exploration in ANWR and off the coastes of florida and california in areas now off limits.
You mean allow us to tap into our own natural resources?
“The annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in
the armed forces from 1980 through 2006″
How can you flat out lie the way you do? You are the biggest liar Ive ever come across. You lie with no hesitation or remorse. Nothing you say is the truth, ever. You are a disgrace. As Rev. T. Lites would say, you are one pathetic piece of work. A real Michael Bland.
4duhs,
So smart ass, please post a more accurate assesment if you think the one I provided is flawed, you liberal!
The claim that there were more U.S. military fatalities during the Bill Clinton administration than there have been to date under George W. Bush is false. Moreover, that erroneous conclusion was based on falsified statistics.
Using the actual figures from the Congressional Research Service report cited above, the total military deaths under each of the two administrations are as follows:
Bill Clinton (1993 - 2000) …………. 7,500 deaths
George W. Bush (2001 - 2006) …. 8,792 deaths Moreover, of the 7,500 fatalities that occurred on Clinton’s watch, only 76 were attributable to hostile action (as compared to 2,596 under Bush); the rest were the result of accidents, homicide, illness, self-inflicted injuries, or unknown causes.
For the record, here are the accurate totals for the past 26 years, including those omitted from the message above: U.S. Active Duty Military Deaths 1980-2006
1980 …. 2,392
1981 …. 2,380
1982 …. 2,319
1983 …. 2,465
1984 …. 1,999
1985 …. 2,252
1986 …. 1,984
1987 …. 1,983
1988 …. 1,819
1989 …. 1,636
1990 …. 1,507
1991 …. 1,787
1992 …. 1,293
1993 …. 1,213 1994 …. 1,075
1995 …. 1,040
1996 ……. 974
1997 ……. 817
1998 ……. 827
1999 ……. 796
2000 ……. 758
2001 ……. 891
2002 ……. 999
2003 …. 1,228
2004 …. 1,874
2005 …. 1,942
2006 …. 1,858
Note that the erroneous totals in the message were arrived at not only by adding up falsified numbers for each president, but also by specifying incorrect starting and ending dates for their administrations. Bill Clinton was inaugurated on January 20, 1993 and left office on January 20, 2001, the same date George W. Bush was inaugurated. In addition, the correct totals comprise only six years of the Bush administration, not seven as claimed.
“you liberal!”
God thats lame.
What is so amazing to me about a fool like you D2 is how you’ll take any stupid junk email one of your brain dead cronies sends you and as long as it falls in line with your limited skope of reality, you’ll go with it without any investigation whatsoever.
Ahh yes…d2si caught in the act of lying yet again. Watch him spin now!
What say you, d2si? Wanna MAN UP?
ROFLMAO
4duhs,
What are you trying to prove? My point is that liberals are making a HUGE stink about the war on terror while past democrat Presidents encountered more losses. Liberals look foolish when you look at the facts.
“G.S.A.H.A.,
You mean don’t vote liberal democrat?”
Dare2sayit,
You mean you don’t drink piss from a boot?
NO…YOU look like a liar for posting lies.
D2,
That was ment to be a no answer from both of us
“What are you trying to prove?”
That you are a liar. Which isnt hard. Its about as hard as proving a 4 year old with chocolate on their face has been in the cookie jar when they say they havent.
“My point is that liberals are making a HUGE stink about the war on terror while past democrat Presidents encountered more losses. ”
Only if youre talking about FDR, Truman, and LBJ.
” Liberals look foolish when you look at the facts.”
Get some facts an we’ll discuss them. Only a fraud and a liar would post garbage with no source and call it a fact. You remind me of Migeul Tejada.
The stat’s I provided were from a government link and I’ll find it.
In the mean time, you Libs go ahead and try to prove how GWB has killed our soldiers.
GO,
If your going to make blog love to D2, take it out back.
watch d2 spin…spinning like a top
hehe
I posted the link but it was blocked,
Damn the luck!
“The stat’s I provided were from a government link and I’ll find it.”
Good luck. This should be great.
“In the mean time, you Libs go ahead and try to prove how GWB has killed our soldiers.”
I like truth, sources, reality. Show me some and Ill believe you. Until then take your pathertic Micahel Bland style BS and go back to your little blog and continue to jag off to your GWB photo album.
“I posted the link but it was blocked,
Damn the luck!”
Liar. Just a little to convenient.
Sportscenter is one. By. D2, Ill check on it tomorrow. Or maybe I wont. Ive already done the research and discovered youre full of sh:t.
Wild are down 3-1
“If your going to make blog love to D2, take it out back.”
$blah,
The cows are out back and I don’t think now is the time to limit their milk out put
Hey all - I am drinking and blogging- just got back from the twins game.
Before I jump into this fray - I would like to point out that I am not taking either side in the D2SI controversity on whether the facts are true or whether D2SI is lying.
Nevertheless, I do know this…there is no way in h$ll I am allowing jcf817 to use my trademarked phrase “man up” [he posted “What say you, d2si? Wanna MAN UP? ROFLMAO “]
NO ONE can use “Man Up” until they have passed the ‘man up’ certification process. To wit - mr. jcf817 has not even passed the prerequisites for the class!! Keep trying jcf817 - we are all pullin’ for you to be able to - man up!!
Oh btw - no one on this blog is using ROFLA or LOL or whatever dude. We are all over 20 something. Grow up and learn to use all the keys of the keyboard and finish the words you are typing. Its not text messaging - its blogging!!! Know the difference.
Thank God it’s Thursday! I have tomorrow off and can debate until my wife complains too much. (just kidding)
FYI,
ROFLMAO existed long before texting.
You might wanna know your facts before posting something that’s wrong.
“Hey all - I am drinking and blogging”
Talk to me Man.
$blah,
“Your quest for truth is as strong as my quest for knowledge. Your insatiable love affair with the universal fluctuation of granduer mind stoking realism is equil to my brash flinting moment of flustered blushing and stammering stuttering beleif in all that is spiritual in the realm of Darwinism’s genuflection to God”
Name that tune
Oh wow.
ROFLMAO existed long before texting
Yeah that wasn’t the point. My point was no one on this blog uses those abbreviations. You are obviously showing your age. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing - its just that - well - your young and haven’t experienced much.
Nevertheless. You can use more than just those keys now - You have a full keyboard in front of you. In other words, you can use the big words now - your on the big boy blog.
MOI,
Limit the ice and mix. Then you’ll have atruly holistic thought process.
(man up would have sounded gay)
“Its not text messaging - its blogging!!! Know the difference.”
OIC…so you didn’t mean what you wrote?
My point…which you obviously missed…is that use of them is no proof of age. I learned those abbreviations many moons ago.
You may as well stop with the assumptions. I know it’ll be hard for you…but you can do it.
Since the THINK AGAIN Christmas party didn’t appear, how about a BON FIRE PARTY on my property this spring?
G
while I appreciate the advice - I’ve been drinking for awhile now - I think I have gotten the hang of it.
“Yeah that wasn’t the point. My point was no one on this blog uses those abbreviations”
Ahh MOI,
Wrong. JonR uses them. Man Up and show me your sources.
Oh wow - did you say many moons ago?!!!
are you sure you want to use that phrase. Moons = months. So you are saying Many months ago.
Oh well than OK I guess its ok to use abbreviations.
Love your support for your argument. Works well for someone in jr. high.
AGain, you can use all the keys on your keyboard now - you’re on the big boy blog.
“I’ve been drinking for awhile now - I think I have gotten the hang of it.”
Me too. for about 3 hours now tonight.
G
seriously, JOnR uses them?!!
I guess I need to give him a little sh^t too.
Hey seriously - we need to get tiny a hooker. he seems a little stressed lately.
Why don’t you go ahead and tell me what I mean by the word ‘many’.
I proved you wrong…why don’t you MAN UP and take some personal responsibility.
D
A party would be great. Lets see if we can get it together.
MOI,
He’s trying to stop smoking. Down to 6 smokes aday now.
I told him I’m glad he said “Stop Smoking” because I knew his mom never raised a quiter.
h^ll yeah I’ll man up.
Where was I wrong again.
“G”
What’s that? Why don’t you use your entire keyboard and type out his entire username?
jeez…does the word hypocrite mean anything to you?
MOI
I didnt even know what ROFLMAO meant till JonR posted it in response to my posting the word “Smegma” in response to 4blah posting somthing about magma being a weird word.
“Where was I wrong again.”
“You are obviously showing your age. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing - its just that - well - your young and haven’t experienced much.”
You have no proof of my age…and I explained to you why.
“What’s that? Why don’t you use your entire keyboard and type out his entire username?”
Because my real name typed out has gotten me triple super secret probation from Katherine.
I gotta go. you folks are up late.
Adios Sombreros.
PS
Moi JCF is not me. I have abunch of better grammer.
Your username is G.S.A.H.A.
not “G”
OH you want me to man up about typing G instead of some insane bunch of letters.
Then I man up. I use G instead of a bunch of other letters.
lets see is that hypocritical. I guess we are going to need a ruling on this one.
BZZZZz - looks like the ruling is in and I lost.
We can all use short abbreviations now.
MU and PR are now going to be all the rage.
Damn you’ll are postin’ fast - its tough to keep up
I feel like the video game - GTA.
“I’ve been drinkin’ again”
Goodnight all.
I’ve got to get up to churn butter in the morning.
You have no proof of my age…and I explained to you why.
You did? Where? All you said was I was a hypocrit and that ROFLMAO was before texting - where did I miss you are old and wise?
G.S.A.H.A.
Now you have me wondering what it stands for. I have some crazy ideas…well…one crazy idea of what it means.
OH man - come on. Everybody i sleavin’
I just ordered a pizza.
My goodness, you’re dense, m_o_i.
You have no idea of my age…yet in your arrogance you’ve stated that I’m young and haven’t experienced much.
jcf817 - yup I am dense - what i dense.
Do people stil use the term dense.
Ok your right - you are old if you use the term dense. What was I thinkin’ - I know - its becasue I’ve been drinkin’
OK I am going to go to bed now too. Wait let me rephrase - I am choosing to go to bed now - because I nolonger wish to be blogging and I am choosign to sleep instead of blogging.
hmm - did that cover it.
Also I think that we can achieve world peace if we turn up the blender to a higher speed - wait - no that achieves whirled peas.
If you want the last word, go ahead and post after me.
good night everybody!
oh…BWI, huh?
does it make living with yourself more tolerable?
Leland?
Yeah, where is leland8? I appreciate his sense of humor also.
Think one of those Hot Polygamist broads would make Ya a sandwich without complaining about it?
Not just a sandwich Tiny, a whole meal plus a beverage.
Those women look like they just got off the set of Little House on the Prairie.
Have a great day everyone! It’s my day off and I think I’ll relax by splitting a cord or two of firewood.
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