The Vets Strike Back at the Forest Lake High School Disinformation Campaign
March 27th, 2008 – 9:36 PMHEY FOLKS, I’M LAID UP AT HOME, AND CAN”T PICK UP A PEN TODAY. PLEASE KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING AND I”LL TUNE IN AND SEE WHAT YOU’VE GOT GOING. EXPECT “THINK AGAIN” TO BE BACK TOMORROW.
Vets for Freedom – a group of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans on a tour of the country — were disinvited from Forest Lake High School by administrators on Monday. These heroes are entitled to an honest answer about the reason for this perverse lack of courtesy.
Instead, they’re on the receiving end of a full-press disinformation campaign.
The brouhaha began when principal Steve Massey cancelled the vets’ appearance because of what the school described as about two dozen calls opposing their visit. Some of these apparently mentioned the possibility of protest.
The school’s resulting cave-in to this political pressure didn’t play well with the public, so administrators subsequently floated different versions of the story. Their common theme — blame it on the vets.
Initially, Massey insisted that he cancelled the vets’ meeting with high school social studies students because the vets surprised him and tried to turn their visit into a political event. The group had announced a press conference at the last minute – an unacceptable situation, he suggested.
“We had been excited about the vets coming,” Massey told the Star Tribune. “Then, lo and behold, they schedule a news conference on our campus. Time out.”
That’s flat wrong, says Pete Hegseth, Vets for Freedom director. Vets for Freedom didn’t plan a press conference, but a low-key “media availability” at their bus before the event with students.
Massey wasn’t caught off guard by this, adds Hegseth – he approved it in advance.
“We were hoping a few local reporters – like from the Forest Lake Times – would show up and talk to some of the guys at the bus before the event started,” explains Hegseth.
Today, Lynn Steenblock, Forest Lake School District superintendent, provided a different spin. The school called off the event for an unimpeachable reason — it threatened “student safety,” he told the Star Tribune.
“There could have been many reasons to cancel this event,” responds Hegseth. “But the very last one is security. It’s a complete sham argument. I was told the event was cancelled because of ‘political pressure.’ Security was not part of the reason cited to me.”
Hegseth has tried repeatedly to reach Steenblock since the cancellation, he says, but Steenblock has not responded. On Thursday, Steenblock told the Star Tribune that he’s worries Forest Lake is being viewed as “anti-veteran.” Go figure.
Forest Lake High School officials aren’t the only ones who want you to think Vets for Freedom’s decorated heroes are a threat to security. Loony left groups like the Center for Media and Democracy apparently charge that the organization began as a Republican front group managed by White House insiders.
A Bush White House front group? Listen to this endorsement from a liberal Democrat – Rep. Brian Baird of Washington:
Vets for Freedom speaks with unique authority and is an essential non-partisan voice supporting those who are committed to success in Iraq.
“If we were a White House front group, we should have been awash in cash in our infancy,” says Hegseth. In fact, the group was started by a handful of vets and initially could hardly make ends meet. “We had one staff member, and he could barely pay his own salary,” says Hegseth. “He literally put down his own credit card to start the organization.”
To suggest that Vets for Freedom marches lock-step in support of the Bush administration is equally untrue. When Hegseth returned from his tour in Iraq in Oct. 2006, he slammed the Bush administration’s strategy in Iraq in a high-profile piece for the Wall Street Journal.
White House puppet-masters weren’t watching closely enough, I guess.
Hegseth and his fellow vets have seen plenty in combat, and this dust-up won’t set them back. For their part, Forest Lake High administrators should come clean, and acknowledge – as they did initially – that political pressure forced some of our most courageous vets out of a Minnesota public school.
It’s a shame—but at least it’s the truth.
563 Responses to "The Vets Strike Back at the Forest Lake High School Disinformation Campaign"
Now that the Superintendent at Forest Lake High has declared that an appearance by veterans is a threat to “student safety,” I wonder what the next howler from this bunch will be. Perhaps veterans are a potential health threat, a threat to public morals, not educated sufficiently to interact with the intelligensia at Forest Lake High.
I want to know why Nick Coleman couldn’t have taken a minute to call one of these vets before trashing them based on loony, conspiracy theory web sites.
This group defines itself as supporting continued U.S. involvement in the region of Iraq and Afghanistan.
I would not want them talking to impressionable youths under any circumstances. Children need to be protected. It’s as simple as that.
“This group defines itself as supporting continued U.S. involvement in the region of Iraq and Afghanistan.
“I would not want them talking to impressionable youths under any circumstances. Children need to be protected. It’s as simple as that.”
Protect children from the concepts of fighting terrorism, confronting evil, serving your country, and protecting the defenseless.
How… progressive of you.
It sad to see that the looney left has that much control over our public schools. We need to bring patriotism back, and our students deserve to understand the sacrifices our heroic Vets have made for our country.
Comrade Nick Coleman’s front page editorial yesterday on the topic was disturbing, and I see why the Strib’s circulation is going down with guys like him getting paid to spew liberal trash like that. Michele Bachmann decided to show her support for the Vets which is admirable, and democrats like Keith Ellison could have done the same, but I don’t think they share the same appreciation or respect for our Vets.
So we “protect children” by denying them access to true heroes? by telling them lies about the USA? by blaming the USA for all the world’s ills? by refusing to teach all the good the US does?
The same institution, public schools, who deny any form of support for the USA are so very quick to force elementary children to learn about same-sex marriage. What about protecting kids from this?
Wake up - every freedom we have is at stake and you can’t listen to the guys who put their lives on the line for you?
How selfish can you get?
As for Steenblock and Massey - cowards all. Then again, that’s the education world today - comprised of lefties from the 60’s who couldn’t get jobs where they would be held accountable.
Oh, I AGREE - the children MUST be protected …. God forbid they be ‘exposed’ to any viewpoints other than the ‘officially approved indoctrination” talking points.
It’s sad what this country has sunk to, where supporting our soldiers and the war they fight is considered political and not patriotic.
leland8 says “I would not want them talking to impressionable youths under any circumstances.”
I can’t tell whether this poster is posting tongue in cheek or not.
How come youths become impressionable when decorated military veterans talk to them in their social studies classes one time, but are largely impervious to violent video games and movies they might play / watch 20 hours a week?
These same kids are supposed to be able to make mature decisions about their sexuality — but they can’t interact with some guys (and maybe gals) who serve in the military?
I thought education involved exposure to different points of view. Heaven forbid these raging Rambos turn out to be sensible, intelligent, caring, freedom defending and choice loving people. Impressionable children might be impressed!
So — then who are the politicizers and more importantly why do they seek to censor?
(Note to the school — let the censors protest. All 10 of them. It would be an educational experience for the kids to discuss in social studies.)
“It’s sad what this country has sunk to, where supporting our soldiers and the war they fight is considered political and not patriotic.”
Isn’t it something!
Listen don’t bother trying to figure it out. Its simple. It’s a hatred for Bush that surpass anything in these peoples lives. A hatred obsession that is on a level we have never seen before.
Hey I hated some presidents in my time but nothing at this level.
Plus guys like Nick Coleman. Don’t kid yourself he’s an old washed up hippy and this is his chance to relive his youth.
This Iraq thing is IMPORTANT and these fools would rather lose there then anything else in the world.
KTCI replayed the American Experience thing on the SLA last night. Shoot I only saw the last five minutes….anybody see it.
Is it replayed again this weekend?
Hey how bout an above average temperature for once. Throw me something here. Maybe its all that light bulb changing and now we are going the other way.
Need to dial this thing back a bit.
I love the fact that this has degenerated into a typical either you are with us or against us argument. So much for the middle road and the facts. I believe that the veterans are noble in serving their country and are doing honorable service. But when you have a politician showing up - then you inject politics. Keep Michele Bachman away and I support the event. Bring her or any other - Amy Klobuchar, Norm Coleman and you make it a political statement……
“Children need to be protected. It’s as simple as that.”
my dear feind le8 is absolutely correct. the children have to be protected. in addition to being protectected, the need to be informed. thats why it should be made mandatory that the schools show each class dutch politician gert wilder’s recently released film “fitna” (liveleak.com). it is a short 16 minute film that holds a mirror up to isalm and cowardly liberal regressive politicians that refuse to confront the menace of political islam.
after the kids have seen the film, then the soldiers should visit the school and talk to the kids once the kids understand the evil the soldiers are trying to protect us from.
Another picture of Kathleen Soliah on the cover today.
Guys “I wouldn’t” and thats saying something.
The meeting has been rescheduled and held. This is good. I hear they may have another before leaving for DesMoines.
Wish I could attend with my Impressionable kid. I know all the conversations with her WWII & Korean War Vet Grandpa have been a wonderful influence on her. I think she feels well protected knowing that there are men and women out there like grandpa keeping her safe from what she sees on the news.
Now the city of Forest Lake needs to sit down with the school board and figure out a way to get past this. If it was my local school district hemming and hawing on the reason for cancelling the event I would welcome a recall.
We’ll see how the press and democrats handle this new “offensive” in Iraq. The Iraq boys needed a little air support and the HEADS on MSNBC where saying that indicates they are losing.
Really. More like they probably have a bunch trapped and are giving them the “what for”.
Now if the Iraqis don’t go after the Shiite radicals then the Press and Dems would say they are not doing enough.
Again I ask…how can we ever win.
Awesome! Do you guys think Nick Coleman could beat Katherine Kersten in a fair fight? I don’t think he could, unless it was an unfair fight.
Batman vs Wolverine in an unfair fight? I’ll take Batman.
“Batman vs Wolverine in an unfair fight? I’ll take Batman.”
The Incredible Hulk. I’ll take the Hulk against anyone.
It always sickens me when the hysterical masses decide their one issue needs to be worked out through the public schools. I don’t like it when anti-war protestors do it, I don’t like it when anti-evolutionists do it, and I don’t like it when people far from said public school obtain a phone number for a school and lodge their complaints.
(I hate to even add this next part, because it is my policy to pretend leland doesn’t exist…) Our children need to be protected from dull, meaningless, rote learning and exposed to a multitude of ideas. Anyone who has ever taught an 18 year old student knows, they aren’t all that impressionable. Furthermore, if parents truly object to something taught in school, they always, always, always have the right to pull their children from a class activity or assignment.
Lastly, let’s not make this a left v. right argument. I am among many lefties who love our war heroes and believe we need to make something good out of Iraq. And, to be fair, for many on the right, the extent to which they “support our troops” ends at the sticker on their bumper.
lealand8 wrote: “I would not want them talking to impressionable youths under any circumstances. Children need to be protected. It’s as simple as that.”
This is a high school. We are talking about individuals that are on the brink of what we call adulthood. Nearly all students in their senior year can participate in political caucuses if they will be 18 by the time of the election - and in fact can go on to be delegates at the state convention! These are children to which we provide condums for “their protection”. It amazes me what we can do in the name of protecting the children.
I want my kids to grow up to be critical thinkers - to be able to hear a view even if it differs from the one they hear at home - so they have a good foundation to make up their own minds. I fear that is not what we see represented in the public schools today.
“Protect children from the concepts of fighting terrorism, confronting evil, serving your country, and protecting the defenseless.”
And punishing old surrogates who become inconvenient, and lining the multi-billion dollar pockets of various defense “contractors,” and do you kids have any idea how much OIL were talking about here, and, and, and, of PROTECTING US FROM THE BOOGIE MAN!!! LOOK OUT KIDS, THEY’RE COMING FOR YOU AND LITTLE CINDY LOU TOO!!! (and it’s not as if there’s any jobs waiting for you when you get out of school anyway)
I was walking into the Humphrey terminal rail station the other day on my way to the Lindbergh terminal and some troops were walking out. I gave them a a smile and a nod and one of them asked me if I had a “lighter, matches, two sticks to rub together…”
You could tell she wanted a smoke bad just then.
I dug in my pockets and would have given her a lighter if I had one but alas, since I was going TO get on a plane I had left them all at home.
Stupid @#$%&* TSA is getting in the way of me supporting my troops.
I would not object to taking my kid to an anti-war vet meeting either.
It takes all kinds of people and ideas to serve protect our country.
gsaha: “I would not object to taking my kid to an anti-war vet meeting either.It takes all kinds of people and ideas to serve protect our country.”
Amen! In this country, ideas are not the enemy.
“and, of PROTECTING US FROM THE BOOGIE MAN!!! LOOK OUT KIDS, THEY’RE COMING FOR YOU AND LITTLE CINDY LOU TOO!!!”
BOOGIE MAN GLOBAL WARMING, BOOGIE MAN OLD FASHIONED LIGHT BULBS, BOOGIE MAN SUVs, B0OGIE MAN UNPROVEN SCIENCE, BOOGIE MAN LEFTWING PETPROJECTS, BOOGIE MAN RAISE MY TAXES FOR UNNECESSARY PROGRAMS. BOOGIE BOOGIE BOOGIE.
HEY BABE YA WANT TO BOOGIE,
BOOGIE WOOGIE WOOGIE WITH ME.
The San Francisco keyboardist and jam-band leader Merl Saunders once put out a batch of bumper stickers that said,
“save the Earth, so we have some place to boogie.”
dubble_a_ron you can take a lighter on a plane..I just did. Nice try.
Actually dubble_a_ron I was getting ready to throw it in the garbage when the TSA lady said you don’t need to do that…..
I said “I can take it”
She said “No Problem”
So again NICE TRY Buddy
Jeepers, a couple school officials give some mealy-mouthed spinny responses when hounded by the press about this tempest in a teapot and all the sudden Katherine is proclaiming there’s a “full-press disinformation campaign”.
Who’s waging the campaign here?
That gets about a 9.5 on my Katherine Kersten Hyperbolometer.
“save the Earth, so we have some place to boogie.”
I dig it
Believe it or not Tiny the TSA employees don’t enforce those policies consistently, especially in the early post-911 days when you’re average TSA screener was no better trained than a checkout clerk at Wal-Mart. At times lighters have been forbidden. Right now they are supposedly allowed, but I’m sure someone is having their lighter taken away as we speak. I leave them at home out of habit. I have had them taken away in the past.
I think Ive got Blog Burnout. Ive come full circle. This stuff has all been said a million times. Tiny, what should I do here? GO? Any ideas?
“HEY BABE YA WANT TO BOOGIE,
BOOGIE WOOGIE WOOGIE WITH ME.”
I’ve had a lot of fun with that song over the years!!
Iraq is not a right vs left issue. It’s a moral issue. The group in question supports the continuation of Bush war policies. If you see such policies as aggression, and being immoral, it’s not unreasonable to want to protect impressionable children from being indoctrinated with those views. When the children become adults they can listen to whomever they choose.
“This stuff has all been said a million times. Tiny, what should I do here? GO? Any ideas?”
Bulbs- no been there done that
GW- nope not enough kleenix for the
warmies.
muslims- naw
Gay marriage- i’m not bringing it up
first
I-35 bridge- ummmmmmm, JonR?
Insurance- Hell no
Orygun man pregnant- up to you guys
Hilaries waiste line- ewwwwww
I’ve got nothin.
I think Im going to create a new blog personality and come back and antagonize. Otherwise this place is starting to loose its appeal.
“The group in question supports the continuation of Bush war policies.”
No, wrong.
They support the ending of this conflict in a responsible and orderly manner. Alot of them have been at odds with the bush administrations excecution of the war.
“I think Im going to create a new blog personality and come back and antagonize”
Works for me
No Ronny she looked just like a regular person Ya know. Pretty smart looking to.
No I don’t think its an issue of “training”, I think its an issue of “blogging”
Lie blogging or a really bad attempt at sarcasm blogging. Probably more of a MOVEON diaper blogging.
“Hooray for a Michigan State professor!
The story begins at Michigan State University
with a mechanical engineering professor named
Indrek Wichman
Wichman sent an e-mail to the Muslim Student’s Association.
The e-mail was in response to the students’ protest
of the Danish cartoons
that portrayed the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist.
The group had complained the cartoons were
‘hate speech.’
Enter Professor Wichman.
In his e-mail, he said the following:
Dear Muslim Association,
As a professor of Mechanical Engineering here at MSU
I intend to protest your protest.
I am offended not by cartoons,
but by more mundane things like beheadings of civilians,
cowardly attacks on public buildings, suicide murders,
murders of Catholic priests (the latest inTurkey),
burnings of Christian churches,
the continued persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt,
the imposition of Sharia law on non-Muslims,
the rapes of Scandinavian girls and women (called ‘whores’ in your culture),
the murder of film directors in Holland,
and the rioting and looting in Paris, France.
This is what offends me,
a soft-spoken person and academic,
and many, many of my colleagues.
I counsel you dissatisfied, aggressive, brutal,
and uncivilized slave-trading Muslims
to be very aware of this as you proceed
with your infantile ‘protests.’
If you do not like the values of the West
- see the 1st Amendment -
you are free to leave.
I hope for God’s sake
that most of you choose that option
Please return to your ancestral homelands
and build them up yourselves instead of troubling Americans.
Cordially,
I. S. Wichman
Professor of Mechanical Engineering
As you can imagine,
the Muslim group at the university didn’t like this too well.
They’re demanding that Wichman be reprimanded
and the university impose mandatory diversity training for faculty
and mandate a seminar on hate and discrimination for all freshmen.
Now the local chapter of CAIR has jumped into the fray.
CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations,
apparently doesn’t believe that the good professor
had the right to express his opinion.
For its part,
the university is standing its ground
in support of Professor Wichman,
saying the e-mail was private,
and they don’t intend to publicly condemn his remarks.”
Mr. G, You are right. They think Bush was not extreme enough.
“ending the conflict in a responsible and orderly manner.” This of course means death and destruction and annihilating their perceived enemy.
“I think Im going to create a new blog personality and come back and antagonize. Otherwise this place is starting to loose its appeal.”
Me to
I’ll call it
MarkalovesobamaandGOlikeskriskristoffersonhonesttogod.com
Mr Leland,
Would you like to replace Khalid in the pyramid?
“I think Im going to create a new blog personality and come back and antagonize”
Maybe you can come back as 4skin.
The nutty Professor Wichman sounds like an extreme religious bigot.
Tiny,
I was thinking more along the line Of BeamGuy.08
I was asked to deliver an address to my high school alma mater on the Vet’s Day following 9/11. It was honest and forthright, and admittedly right-of-center. The students gave the 10 minute talk a standing ovation. The faculty unanimously were upset.
I learned two things that day:
1.) The left-leaning orientation of academia has established a foothold in secondary schools.
2.) High school students are able to make discerning judgements in spite of it.
I attended the Vets for Freedom conclave at Ft. Snelling. Although politicians were there, the event was apolitical.
“Maybe you can come back as 4skin.”
Unfortunatley, I cant.
“The faculty unanimously were upset.”
Imnot doubting it but how do you know?
Mr. G, I will be in the pyramid, only if I can be on top, wearing my leopard print briefs. I will need to find a matching stink-hood. I like being fashionable.
“BOOGIE MAN GLOBAL WARMING, BOOGIE MAN OLD FASHIONED LIGHT BULBS, BOOGIE MAN SUVs, B0OGIE MAN UNPROVEN SCIENCE, BOOGIE MAN LEFTWING PETPROJECTS, BOOGIE MAN RAISE MY TAXES FOR UNNECESSARY PROGRAMS. BOOGIE BOOGIE BOOGIE.”
You’re ruled by your fears. Your fear of science is comical and largely harmless. Your fear of raising taxes for unnecessary programs would also be comical if it wasn’t for the fact that your fear of the boogie man is costing us a trillion dollars. And counting.
BOO!
tluck
“Maybe you can come back as 4skin.”
I’m givin’ Ya a 9.9 on that one.
You like the 4skin Huh Tiny?
Nutty Professor Wichman = stevek
stevek checks under his bed every night to see if a Muslim is hiding there.
“BOO!”
You’re ruled by your fears. Your fear of reality is comical and largely harmful. Your fear of pay as you go for necessary programs would also be comical if it wasn’t for the fact that your fear of the earth warming will becosting us a trillion dollars. Not counting the trickledown pollution of bulbs and batteries.
I have to agree with G.S.A.H.A.’s 9:01 post. Our children are told war stories all the time by their loving grandparents.
leland8 says, “Children need to be protected.” These are high school age kids we’re talking about. I consider children to be in elementary or middle school. High-schoolers are almost adults and should have some resources available to them to experience how to think for themselves.
If we’re going to keep topic groups of this sort away from our kids, then we need to keep our kids out of visiting nursing homes also. Think of the war stories they’re going to hear in there.
My son is in the Marines, and every time he’s home on leave, he visits his alma mater and talks to the kids about what it’s like in Iraq. He’s been deployed twice so far and is scheduled to go back soon. Each time he checks with his alma mater to see if it’s okay to talk to the kids and each time they’ve let him speak. This next time he visits the teenagers, he’ll have his wife with him and she can also tell the kids about her deployment in Iraq also.
Some of today’s kids have the wrong idea as to what a hero is.
“You like the 4skin Huh Tiny?”
Its a non-sexual thing with tiny.
“I will be in the pyramid, only if I can be on top, wearing my leopard print briefs. I will need to find a matching stink-hood”
Mr. Leland8,
You know the rules. Stripped and stacked.
“Some of today’s kids have the wrong idea as to what a hero is.”
These kids are all over 30, living in Wisconsin and have man crushes on Brett Favre.
Mr. Dan is right about the outrageously expensive Boogie Man. How much money must be spent on a figment of our imagination?
Maybe someone should go talk to the children at Forrest Lake about Bush’s 10 trillion dollar debt. They are the ones who will suffer from it and have to pay for it.
4blahs said “Brett Favre”
“Brett Favre”
Man I went to YouTube to see the video I missed of his press conference. What a self absorbed baby. Waaaa!!!! Im Brett Favre!!!!! Waaaa!!!! Im a millionaire!!!! Waaaaa!!!!.
Then the adult me commenting on the site was enough to make you want to puke.
iamme, Heroes don’t engage in wars of aggression. Iraq never attacked the US. I hope your marine son can come home and find something useful to do with his life.
“Then the adult me commenting on the site was enough to make you want to puke.”
Yep just like his beating the “Drug Addicttion”.
“Then the adult me”
MEN, not me.
leland8, I am very very very proud of my son.
You on the other hand are a wet noodle.
GO did you see it and read the crap people write?
Favre could run for governor, senator whatever in Sconi right now and win in a walk.
people are giving him credit for saving their lives. How he is a model of morality, heroism blah blah blah.
The guy played FOOTBALL for christ sake.
“You’re ruled by your fears. Your fear of reality is comical and largely harmful. Your fear of pay as you go for necessary programs would also be comical if it wasn’t for the fact that your fear of the earth warming will becosting us a trillion dollars. Not counting the trickledown pollution of bulbs and batteries.”
“That’s not right. It’s not even wrong.”
“That’s not right. It’s not even wrong.”
That’s not wrong. It’s not even right.
BOOOOOOOO
I’m bored with this subject, too. But, for the record, I’m a lefty and I think they should have been able to speak at the school.
I was also totally disgusted when I saw the news coverage yesterday of those college students protesting outside the U of M military recruiting offices. Locking yourselves to the doors so no one can go inside? Talk about misguided protests.
“The guy played FOOTBALL for christ sake.”
Did you see him in “Something About Mary”?
The guy can’t even act for Darwin sake.”
blah, if Favre is prounounced Farve, shouldn’t his first name be spelled Bert just to be consistant?
Waaaaa…Waaaaa….Waaaaa. Isn’t it amazing that of all the professionanl football players from day 1, he’s the only one that had a Father die during the season? Or whose wife ever got sick?
You can sure tell who the only Democrat on my block his. Hes got the Christmas tree laying out at the end of the driveway ( he missed the pickup date ). He still has the Halloween Leaf bags laying all over his front yard. Hes garbage can is forever sitting out at the end of the driveway. And his Mailbox has been broken all winter and its just laying there in the street.
Come summer…will I could go on.
PS Lets not forget the old car sitting on the side of his house that hasn’t moved since 1972.
“You on the other hand are a wet noodle.”
iamme, This is an extreme insult, to refer to me as a starchy, noodle. It’s okay, though.
It’s good when parents love their children. One day when I came home from school in 2nd grade, my parents had moved. Much to their dismay, I eventually found them.
“news coverage yesterday of those college students protesting outside the U of M military recruiting offices.”
Is this a warmup to the republican convention?
AG,
When I say all the crying I thought he was going to announce his dick fell off.
My favorite one is about how it wasnt about the money. Oh yeah? Well then give the $100 million they paid you back.
Tiny,
Thats funny, you just described my GOP uncle.
I hate to say but if you drive around Buff you are likely to see old Den Yard signs still up like months after the election.
Do this study on your own sometime…grade the houses for neatness and lawn upkeep and such. See how your results end up.
But for now because I did the original study on this here stuff…that makes me “The Expert”
Last thing Ill say on Brett Favre is that must have been staged. Can you get any more contrived than “I promised myself I wasnt going to get emotional.”?
Didnt Sally Field say that when she won her Oscar for Norma Rae?
No 4skin your uncle is secretly voting Dem. Its in “The Study” written by me “The Expert”
Hey the data is in Pal. Its over…end of subject.
Sally Field won an Oscar?
Remember this one?
“You like me! You really like me!”
-Sally Field.
She was HOT in Smokey and the Bandit
Sally Field won an Oscar?
For the Flying nun I think.
I would and how did they do that ?
Given that Nick Coleman is obviously part of this vile disinformation campaign against Iraqi war veterans, shouldn’t he be fired from his position as a columnist?
Markie Oh boy lets hope there comes a time when maybe you, me and GO can have a barbecue.Play some Kris Kristofferson tunes and watch Smokey and the Bandit after we eat.
Tiny,
That sounds like my plans for this evening. Time to smoke some pork and listen to some Haggard maybe. Loretta Lynn too.
Markie to get to GO’s just keep following the “Soap Carving & Soap Making” Ahead —-> signs.
I am going back to pretending leland doesn’t exist.
iamme: Your son’s life has more meaning before 8 am than most people’s have in their lifetime.
“Markie to get to GO’s just keep following the “Soap Carving & Soap Making” Ahead —-> signs.”
Speaking of soap.
Tiny, remember in the high school locker room shower you were designated “Soap picker upper”?
“iamme: Your son’s life has more meaning before 8 am than most people’s have in their lifetime.”
We make our own meaning.
“Tiny, remember in the high school locker room shower you were designated “Soap picker upper”?”
Yes I do GO. But trying to beat your record for efficiency while it was your duty was an impossible goal for the rest of us to achieve. You where the “Master”.
My hat is off to you even to this day.
Tiny,
My in laws have a sign in their yard that says “This lawn free from chemicals. Safe for Children and Animals”
care to guess which party they belong to?
“We make our own meaning.”
I don’t know what you mean.
one doesnt have to support the war in iraq to realize our soldiers deserve our support and respect. anyone who mocks the need to fight for and defend our country only shows they lead a very sheltered life.
i would have much preferred we took out iran and syria instead of iraq. but i only disagree with the tactics, not the goal.
only a fool looks at the bombing in madrid and london, the riots in france, the murder of a playwright in amsterdam, the social unrest in great britian, the attempt to have a teacher killed in sudan. the many muslims arrested in this country charged with plotting to commit or aid terrorism, the fatwas by prominent muslim clerics to have any critic of islam killed like rushdie, spencer, gert wilders to name just a few , buries his head in the sand and claims there is no threat.
this person is not just a fool, but also a coward
“I don’t know what you mean.”
G Eliot’s assertion that because someone has chosen to join the army somehow means their lives have more meaning than the rest of ours is a fairly big assumption. In my opinion you give your own life meaning.
Personally I derive a lot of meaning from insulting packers fans on youtube.
“I don’t know what you mean.”
The all knowing Down town Dan does not know what you mean? Or are you scared to know?
“this person is not just a fool, but also a coward”
Downtown dan I think stevek just dissed ya.
“She was HOT in Smokey and the Bandit”
That was before she became a militant liberal!
Were the students that locked themselves to the door protesting the 100 million Iraqi’s that have died since the war started. Yes, 100,000,000. Keep passing it around and soon everyone will believe it is the truth.
4blahs
……a faculty representative called me the day following the address demanding to know the title of the last book that I read. I asked why that was important. His reply…..”I don’t know any conservatives who read books they’re not required too”.
Pat Schroeder made the same allegation publicly a few months ago.
Downtown Dan, I think 4blahs means we each have a purpose in life.
lealand:
In turn, I would like to avoid the kids being indoctrinated into YOUR point of view, which I consider immoral, etc. One part of which is your claim to the right to shout down / shut up points of view with which you disagree.
Why is it you get your way? Who died & appointed you God?
With all due respect, your desire to censor what “the children” hear has nothing to do with protecting them & everything to do with trying to control them.
“G Eliot’s assertion that because someone has chosen to join the army somehow means their lives have more meaning than the rest of ours”
I don’t know about that one there Mark? After all… we are on this blog?
“this person is not just a fool, but also a coward”
Says the person afraid of his own shadow.
Yes, one doesn’t have to support the war in Iraq to realize our soldiers deserve our support and respect. And anyone who would send these fine men and women sworn to protect the US into senseless, endless meat-grinders that only serve to needlessly get them maimed and killed while emptying the national treasury is making a mockery of the need to fight for and defend our country from real enemies and not the expendable ex-allies and imagined boogie men of your fevered nightmares.
I have no doubt that it would help you feel more like a real man to start killing people in Iran and Syria, or rather to send others to do the killing for you, but because cave dwellers flailing their arms somewhere on the other side of the planet scares you isn’t a very good reason for mass murder. Calling it Mass Murder for Peace and Democracy promotes neither, and turns moderates that may have been your allies against you and the next wave of surviving youths into sworn enemies. Brilliant strategy, that.
Only an impotent, paranoid, bed-wetter looks at the bombings in Madrid and London, the riots in France, the murder of a playwright in Amsterdam, the social unrest in great Britain, and the attempt to have a teacher killed in Sudan and thinks we need to use our military rather than their justice systems to deal with it.
The “many Muslims arrested in this country” charged with plotting to commit or aid terrorism still pales against the actual acts of terrorism committed in the US by middle-aged white guys.
To get your undies in a panicked bunch because of some fatwas by Muslim clerics half a planet away to have any critic of Islam killed is giving them exactly what they want; someone to crap their pants every time they say BOO and legitimize them by panicking.
This person is not just a coward AND a fool, but a person so consumed by an irrational fear of unrealistic threats that they need others to kill and be killed on a mass scale for even a small reprieve from night sweats, and they need everyone else to pay for it.
That person is pathetic.
BD57, It is the pro war group trying to manipulate and indoctrinate the children. I oppose this. I don’t want seeds from the devil planted in their minds.
We each have a purpose in life:
Some write the song
Some record the song
Some sing a song
Some serve their country
“G Eliot’s assertion that because someone has…”
“I don’t know what you mean” was a lame attempt at humor. On the internet, no one can see you smirk.
“Downtown dan I think stevek just dissed ya.”
I’ve been called worse by better.
“G Eliot’s assertion that because someone has chosen to join the army somehow means their lives have more meaning than the rest of ours”
Gezzz lets see. Got up. Worked a little. Blogged a little. Planning on takin’ a little nap. Maybe get up watch some TV. Hope that Big World Little People is on.
Yep G has me on this one.
“The “many Muslims arrested in this country” charged with plotting to commit or aid terrorism still pales against the actual acts of terrorism committed in the US by middle-aged white guys.”
DD, if you are typical of the left, then by Darwin this country is in a world of hurt. Must be some contagious mental illness going around to believe the crap that you spout.
Some write the song = Neil Sedaka
Some record the song = Kris Kristofferson
Some sing a song = G.S.A.H.A.
Some serve their country
See
“BD57, It is the pro war group trying to manipulate and indoctrinate the children.”
Just who is the “pro war” group? I don’t think there are many people that like war and are looking for war. Especially not the military types because they are the first called.
If I support this particular war therefore I am pro war? Were 99% of the people in the early 40’s war mongers Pro war is just another insult similar to pro abortion.
G.Elliot says in the context of the meaningfulness of soldiers lives:
“I am going back to pretending leland doesn’t exist.”
I am sad if any person fighting in Iraq is harmed or killed. I am very sad for the families of servicemen who have died. These are boys mostly from poor families.
Neo-cons feel nothing for those who die or are maimed. They see them as being from another class than their own, and expendable in their march to world conquest.
I feel great sadness for the poor man fighting the rich man’s war. This is why I am happy that Forrest Lake Schools, told a part of the warmonger’s propaganda machine, to hit the road.
“I don’t know about that one there Mark?”
Oh I forgot. The military is the pinnicle of life and the rest of us live sheltered, pathetic and meaningless lives. No one ever joined the military for anything other than complete altruism. Ive also never met anyone from the military that is basically a bastard but chooses to wear their uniform solely for the attention. I always get a kick out of seeing this A Hole get his cherished “Thanks for serving” greating from strangers when I know how he treats his kids and wife. Appreciate the soldiers yes but Im not going to fall all over myself to kiss military butts just because of a uniform. Its the person wearing the uniform that counts, not the uniform itself. Dont forget, Lee Harvey Oswald was a marine.
“Must be some contagious mental illness going around to believe the crap that you spout.”
To many Hillary Thigh pork rinds or to much Obama buttered white hate speeches.
“These are boys mostly from poor families.”
Don’t forget uneducated, Mr. Kerry!
Some write the jokes
Some tell the jokes
Some are the joke
Some serve their country.
Has anyone googled the definition of ‘wet noodle’ yet? I did and it fit leland8 to a T.
“I don’t think there are many people that like war and are looking for war”
Maybe not but there were plenty of people who couldnt restrain themselves and wanted to get started as soon as the words WMD, Saddam and 9/1 were strung together.
Hugo Chavez said he smelled the sulfur. I think the the decision makers at the Forrest Lake schools could smell the sulfur. You have to recognize sulfur, when you smell it.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Principal Massey actually sympathizes with Vets for Freedom and he only pulled the plug because he caught wind that it was going to turn into a circus with partisan ninnies shouting at each other. Unfortunately for him the circus came to town anyway. I stand by yesterday’s assertion that it would have been educational for students to witness the fracas. Opportunity missed.
It’s amazing how quickly some folks on both “sides” of this deal jump to paranoid conclusions. You have wingnuts on the pro-war side alleging that the schools are unilaterally controlled by liberals bent on indoctrinating kids as pacifists and you have anti-war wingnuts alleging that a group like Vets for Freedom could only be pawns of the Bush administration. I suspect reality is more complex than the false dichotomy to which the wingnuts subscribe.
“Appreciate the soldiers yes but Im not going to fall all over myself to kiss military butts just because of a uniform. Its the person wearing the uniform that counts, not the uniform itself. Dont forget, Lee Harvey Oswald was a marine.”
Your right there $Blahs.
“as the words WMD, Saddam and 9/1 were strung together.”
I must have been out of town that day. I never beleived the connection and simply didn’t hear it at the forefront of the reasons for war. It was it was mentioned in a “maybe 9/11…..naw nothing there” kind of a way. Did people really swallow that hook line and sinker? Scary.
blahs:
“Dont forget, Lee Harvey Oswald was a marine.”
Oswald was an ex-Marine (as opposed to “former” Marine). More important, he was a CURRENT communist in 1963. JFK was assassinated by a communist, yet his Democrat Party today flirts with communism. How odd.
“You have to recognize sulfur, when you smell it.”
Smells like egg farts.
“Appreciate the soldiers yes but Im not going to fall all over myself to kiss military butts just because of a uniform. Its the person wearing the uniform that counts, not the uniform itself.”
Its the institution
Actually, there is a connection between Saddam’s Iraq and al Qaeda. It was Clinton’s policies vis-a-vis Iraq that ultimately led to 9/11 and other “messages with no words.”
“It’s amazing how quickly some folks on both “sides” of this deal jump to paranoid conclusions.”
I resent that! I know for a fact some of you are out to get me so that doesn’t make me paranoid, only aware of the evil ones around me! Who else is listening in here??? Big brother??? Computers have eyes and ears you know, everything you all have ever posted, looked at or forwarded is on record.
www.sex-lexis.com/Sex-Dictionary/wet%20noodle
I thought iamme was calling me a carbohydrate. My mistake. I no longer feel insulted.
“Oswald was an ex-Marine (as opposed to “former” Marine).”
Ex Marine? What the F is that? Dont the marines have a saying? Sempri Fi right? I thought once you were a marine you were one for life? I guess not when it turns out you were really a bastard all along, further proving my point that its stupid to blindly kiss military butt and expect everyone else to do the same. Seems to me that a young kid might be drawn to having his butt kissed if he knows deep down hes really a bastard. Stands to reason a lot of people in the military are their for less than honorable reasons and are really just narcasists.
“Sudan and thinks we need to use our military rather than their justice systems to deal with it.”
so you think the iranian justice system will bring terrorists to justice ?? the syrians ?? you think they will start cracking down on protesters in the street who call for death to america and isreal ??
you think the justice system of those countries who promote sharia and a one world caliphate are going to crack down on terrorism. you think the justice system in france will be allowed into middle eastern countries to pursue others involved in the conspiracy ??
you think iran will let scotland yard inspectors fly into tehran and interview suspects ?? my god man you are not to bright are you ?? sure bd, acts of war have always been confronted by law enforcement instead of the military. is that what they teach you kids these days ??
you dont see a problem with an estimated 91 million muslims who think targeting innocent men, women and children is a legitimate way to promote islam? you dont think its a problem that almost every country across the globe is experiencing violence at the hands of those who take their direction directly from the quoran ??
and talking of the quoran, you dont think its a problem that influential imams are preaching death against non-believers, using the quoran as their inspiration, to millions of their brethren ??
an irrational fear of unrealistic threats huh. i have news for ya backdoor dan, a group of muslims from half a world away flew some airplanes into a couple of skyscrapers in new york city, indiscriminately killing 3000 people. maybe you havent heard bout it yet. but it did happen.
im sorry for being so blunt backdoor dan, but you must be very, very stupid individual.
“I hate to say but if you drive around Buff you are likely to see old Den Yard signs still up like months after the election.”
A political fashion statement by people that feel the need to shout out to the world, “HEY EVERYBODY, I’M AN INTELLECTUAL”.
“Did people really swallow that hook line and sinker?”
About 70% of the population.
“Appreciate the soldiers yes but Im not going to fall all over myself to kiss military butts just because of a uniform. Its the person wearing the uniform that counts, not the uniform itself.”
As Maj Richard D. Winters said, you solute the office, not the man.
Ex Marine? I think he got booted out…thats why the EX…
Sorry, his actual quote was “Captain Sobel, we salute the rank, not the man.”
“I hate to say but if you drive around Buff you are likely to see old Den Yard signs still up like months after the election.”
“A political fashion statement by people that feel the need to shout out to the world, “HEY EVERYBODY, I’M AN INTELLECTUAL”.”
AND “some of the people I want to win are deadddddddd”
“I’ll get it next year I cut my grasssssss”
Tiny,
There is probably more than one jag off in the Marines. Just a hunch. But, Feel free to salute everyone you see.
I heard a soldier on the radio talking about how poorly hes been treated in his town since he got back. His big example was people dont thank him and no as many free lunches as he expected? Is that REALLy why you join? Free lunches and pats on the back?
4blahs: I was playing on the old army ad, “We do more before 8 am than most people do all day.” I really didn’t think I was being that obscure, but I suppose that was a while ago…
I will say, though, that being willing to give your life up for the ideals of your country…yeah, pretty meaningful. Taking on a false woman-hating, bagel-bashing persona, fairly meaningless.
Mr. stevek is an Islamophohe, or maybe a Muslimophobe, but I think, he secretly wants to convert. I’ll bet in less than a year, it will happen.
oh hey..i thought you where wondering why Oswald was a EX and not a former.
“I heard a soldier on the radio talking”
hey its one guy. Thats like saying just because we have been at below normal highs the past couple months there is no Global Warming. Come on. WHATS WRONG WITH YOU!
“so you think the iranian justice system will bring terrorists to justice ?? the syrians ?? you think they will start cracking down on protesters in the street who call for death to america and isreal ??”
It was you who listed “the bombing in madrid and london, the riots in france, the murder of a playwright in amsterdam, the social unrest in great britian, the attempt to have a teacher killed in sudan.” These sound like police matters to me, or is that not enough potential blood spilled for your tastes?
“an irrational fear of unrealistic threats huh. i have news for ya backdoor dan, a group of muslims from half a world away flew some airplanes into a couple of skyscrapers in new york city, indiscriminately killing 3000 people. maybe you havent heard bout it yet. but it did happen.”
Saudis. Using box cutters. That’s some pretty advanced enemy we got going there. I’m quacking in my boots. And seeing as the old conventional wisdom was “cooperate” with hijackers I don’t think that plan is ever going to work again, and now as such they’re largely reduced to street theater as they shake their fists in the air and chant Death to America. Zzzzzzzzz…..
What’s wrong, fear of the scary black man not the same thrill as it used to be?
Mr 4blahs, I didn’t know you were a woman-hating, bagel basher.
“A political fashion statement by people that feel the need to shout out to the world, “HEY EVERYBODY, I’M AN INTELLECTUAL”.”
Here and I thought it was a political fashion statement by people that feel the need to shout out to the world, “HEY EVERYBODY, IT’S NOT MY FAULT.”
“There is probably more than one jag off in the Marines. Just a hunch. But, Feel free to salute everyone you see.”
4blah I see it like this.
I need a loan. I go to your bank and you set me up with a good deal.
I go home and play with my kid throw a stick for the dog and watch Hannah Montana for 3 hours.
You go home to your basement, light voodoo candles, smoke crack and self peirce you pen:s.
I’ll go back to your bank because I like the deal I got last time. It has nothing to do with you personally. Keep in mind I have no Idea you d:ck is peirced.
Downtown Dan
He’s a tall building man
The hippest of his clan
A liberal arts fan
Here and I thought it was a political fashion statement by people that feel the need to shout out to the world, “HEY EVERYBODY, IT’S NOT MY FAULT.”
Nooooo its
“I don’t have time I have demonstrations/lectures/rallies to attend”
See no mention of WORK !!!!!!!!!
“WHATS WRONG WITH YOU!”
Just punching holes in the fairly accepted theory subscribed to by military bullies that we all should fall down and worship any military personel we see. Some of them are just as self centered as we are. Putting on a uniform doesnt make you a better person. You have to be a good person to start.
“See no mention of WORK !!!!!!!!!”
And, and Bulbs to replace….Bakaw cluck cluck cluck Bakaw.. the sky is falling…cluck cluck cluck.. global warming….Bakaw Bakaw…the sky is falling…..Ethanol, Ethanol…cluck cluck Bakaw…Bulbs bulbs bulbs….Bakaw
“What’s wrong, fear of the scary black man not the same thrill as it used to be?”
Mr. Danno, That is ridiculous. That Boogie Man is completely out of style. You have to try to stay in touch with the latest Boogie Man fashion. The scary black man will certainly be back “in” someday, but not now.
4blahs was a freedom rider
He didnt’care if the whole world looked.
GO with the Lord to guide him
He was a brother that really cooked.
And then there’s Maude.
And then there’s Maude.
And then there’s Maude.
And then there’s Maude.
And then there’s Maude.
And then there’s Maude.
Yeah GO. But I dont have people on the street stoping me because I have ona suit and tie and say, “Thanks for being a banker. You are such a good person”. Maybe I am Maybe Im not.
I just dont believe simply being in the military makes you a good person nor do I believe everyone in the military is there to serve their country first.
“just dont believe simply being in the military makes you a good person nor do I believe everyone in the military is there to serve their country first.”
I get it 4blah. No problum here. I just like to say peirced pen:s
Mr. 4blahs, Thanks for being a banker. You are such a good person….. ummm….you didn’t originate any of sub-prime mortgage loans, did you?
“I just like to say peirced pen:s”
Thats a tounge twister in more ways than one GO as Im sure you are aware.
“These sound like police matters to me, or is that not enough potential blood spilled for your tastes?”
see if you can follow me here backdoor dan.
and just what are the police supposed to do after they mop up the dead bodies ?? do you think the perpetrators will just sort of hang out or do you think they might flee ??? and if they do flee, do you think they just might go to a islamic coutry ?? and if they do go to say, iran or syria, gaza or the west bank, or maybe parts of pakistan, do you think the police will get a whole lot of co-operation. maybe if they bring them some flowers with them dan ??
so hijackers cant use boxcutters and lie to passengers anymore. im sure terrorists will just all go home now. im sure they now see its impossible to adapt and try other ways to kill people. that must be why we havent had any large scale terrorist attacks since 9/11. the terrorists must have just given up. heck , why even have any airport security anymore ??? dan says since people dont believe hijackers any more we are all safe !!! great news backdoor !!!
“Thats a tounge twister in more ways than one GO as Im sure you are aware.”
HAAAAA.
I gotta go. Beers not here and the bars not far.
“Just punching holes in the fairly accepted theory subscribed to by military bullies…”
That is, when you’re not preoccupied punching holes in your pen;s.
The Muslim fanatics have been busy lately in Iraq trying create more problems. Why are they doing this now? Because they want to help the democrat party before the election, of course.
“you didn’t originate any of sub-prime mortgage loans, did you”
Im not that kind of banker. I lend against securities.
“Muslim fanatics……want to help the democrat party.”
Sheesh, Mr. dare2, you have officially gone off the deep end.
“I don’t think that plan is ever going to work again, and now as such they’re largely reduced to street theater as they shake their fists in the air and chant Death to America. Zzzzzzzzz…..”
street theatre backdoor dan ??? have you already forgoten those supposed police matters in denmark, paris, london, madrid amsterdam and sudan, just to name a few. quite a theatre tthey have going there, with all the body parts, blood, twisted wreckage and another assorted mayhem and destruction. is that what the liberal regressives call it these days street theatre ?? wow
I don’t hold it against you Mr.dare2, I am frequently off the deep end too. Mr. Rabbit usually pulls me back into safer water. Where is Mr Rabbit?
Leland,
Osama bin Laden would make a good democrat, don’t you agree?
D2,
When the democrats win the election, what are you going to do?
stevek,
Maybe you could post your link again? Liberals like backdoor Dan might not have had a chance to watch it.
Mr. dare2, Barack Hussein Obama is not Osama bin Laden, but he’s close enough.
I am voting for Obama, unless I change my mind.
4duhs,
Do you honestly think that Mrs. Clinton and Barack Obama are the best candidates the democrat party has to offer?
“The Muslim fanatics have been busy lately in Iraq trying create more problems. Why are they doing this now? Because they want to help the democrat party before the election, of course.”
Of course. Because they couldn’t possibly want to keep Iraq unstable to keep the U.S. Military engaged so they can whip up more anti-americanism and recruit more people to their cause. I’m sure that has nothing to do with it.
We’ve created many times more enemies than we’ve vanquished in this little trillion-dollar excursion.
“I am voting for Obama, unless I change my mind.”
Barack Hussein Obama is all about change. A change to social*sm that is.
“These sound like police matters to me, or is that not enough potential blood spilled for your tastes?”
enough blood for me backdoor dan ??? im not like president tom in iran that promises to wipe isreal off the map every other day. im not a member of a cult that fires rockets into civilian isreali towns. i dont belong to a group that kills women for “honour”.
enough blood for me ?? i dont belong to a cult that is attacks peasants in thailand, kills innocents in the southern phillipines, blows up people in india, slaughters citizens in china, blows up trains in spain and england, kills fellow citizens because they are so-called collaborators in afghanistan. of a group that flies airplanes into skyscrapers. i dont belong to group that hang people because they are gay. i dont belong to a group that kills a person because they join or leave any certain religion.
backdoor dan is the perfect poster child for the belief that liberalism is a mental disorder
Do you honestly think that McCain is the best conservative candidate?
I asked you first DirtBag(2)
jcf817,
Muslim fanatics “heart” the democrat party. A democrat in the White House with a white flag mentality will help the jihadists in their goal of world domination.
“Do you honestly think that McCain is the best conservative candidate?”
No
The blog friends are fighting. Mr. stevek is relentlessly attacking Mr. Danno. Mr. 4blahs and Mr dare2 are dueling. iamme has called me a flaccid male appendage (I don’t mind).
Stevek,
How many Lebanese civilians were killed by the Israeli army last year? Your good with numbers. Enlighten me.
DirtBag,
Are you willing to forgoe your Baby Boomer welfare for this war or are you going to expect to keep taxes low, and not be able to pay for the war, SS and medicare? Which one are you willing to part with?
4duhs says:
“How many Lebanese civilians were killed by the Israeli army last year? Your good with numbers. Enlighten me.”
Lebanon used to be fairly peaceful place until the Muslim extremists in Iran and Syria got their hands on it.
You liberals really like to pick on Israel, don’t you? In case you don’t know it, Israel is the “Good Guy” in the middle east.
“i dont belong to a cult that is attacks peasants in thailand, kills innocents in the southern phillipines, blows up people in india, slaughters citizens in china, blows up trains in spain and england, kills fellow citizens because they are so-called collaborators in afghanistan. of a group that flies airplanes into skyscrapers. i dont belong to group that hang people because they are gay. i dont belong to a group that kills a person because they join or leave any certain religion.”
But you do belong to a group that believes that superior military might can and should be used to address these social, religious, and criminal justice problems that other sovereign nations face, a group that believes that if we can just drop enough bombs on other people’s civilian populations we can end battles that have been raging for 2,000 years.
Insanity is the mental disorder where you keep trying the same thing over and over and over and hope for a different result. So sure, let’s talk about being a poster child for mental disorders. So far you and the rest of your neoCON pals have covered insanity, paranoia, narcissism, delusions of grandeur, and Münchhausen’s Syndrome by Proxies.
Thats not the question I asked DirtBag(2). I see both sides as stupid. I am neutral in the conflict.
“A democrat in the White House with a white flag mentality will help the jihadists in their goal of world domination.”
BOO!
4blahs:
“Are you willing to forgoe your Baby Boomer welfare for this war or are you going to expect to keep taxes low, and not be able to pay for the war, SS and medicare? Which one are you willing to part with?”
Our defense budget currently consumes about 5 percent of GDP. Iraq consumes just 15 percent of that 5 percent. It’s a drop in the bucket compared to the social welfare spending in this country. BTW, LBJ declared war on poverty more than 40 years ago. When are the liberals going to end that war?
4blahs says
Which one are you willing to part with?
I will part with my hairline. I no not need it any more then I need my 3rd nut.
Backdoor Dan,
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
good idea d2.
hey backdoor dan, heres a link to a film put together by a dutch parliament member about the boogyman. www.liveleak.com(it may be slow, google for a mirror if you cant access the site).
i know, our politicians ar now paying off dutch politicians to stir up fear of the bogeyman. i get it, we are also paying off the muslim groups that are threatening violence for releasing a film that portrays islam as violent so we can stir up fear and have people somehow come to the conclusion that islam is violent. it must be very hard for you liberal regressives to twist logic around so.
“Insanity is the mental disorder where you keep trying the same thing over and over and over and hope for a different result.”
That was diplomacy being tried over and over for way to many and many years…… Now we are trying war.
“An Israeli air raid has killed at least 17 Lebanese civilians who were fleeing southern border areas.
Women and children were among those killed when the convoy was hit. “Bodies litter the road,” an eyewitness said”
-BBC News 7/15/06
“An Israeli woman has been killed in a suicide bombing in the southern town of Dimona, in the first such attack by Palestinian militants in over a year.”
- BBc News 02/04/2008
Choose your side dirt bag. I see people killing civilians on both sides.
“it must be very hard for you liberal regressives to twist logic around so.”
Children have no problem making up stories to make them feel good or to justify their fears.
“It’s a drop in the bucket compared to the social welfare spending in this country.”
Exactly why we should cut medicare and SS. Let those boomers pay there own way. This crisis has been on the horizon for DECADES and you’ve done NOTHING.
4duhs,
Unfortunely, innocent people get killed in times of war. Should the Israeli’s act like liberal democrats and take a cowardly approach, or should they defend themselves? Again, there is no question that the Muslims are the aggressors here and are ultimately responsible for the deaths of their own people.
“I’ll get it next year I cut my grasssssss”
Actually, it’s “I’m going to replace it with a More Taxes for a Better Minnesota sign, because the state should be cutting the grass for me”.
“But you do belong to a group that believes that superior military might can and should be used to address these social, religious, and criminal justice problems that other sovereign nations face,”
sorry bd, i dont belong to any particular group. do i believe that state sponsored terrorism should be confronted. i sure do. do i believe that nations that train and support terror groups be stopped?? h*ll yeah.
so to liberal regressives such as yourself backdoor dan, nothing is worth fighting for is it ?? you believe mommy and daddy with somehow magically protect you. you believe the only thing keeping the world from interlocking arms and singing kumbayya is greedy american corporations dont you ??
should we have just rolled over and given flowers to nazi germany ?? how about imperialistic japan, just get together , share a bowl of rice??
“we can just drop enough bombs on other people’s civilian populations we can end battles that have been raging for 2,000 years.”
sorry bd, i dont seem to remember muslims flying planes into towers or bombing trains in europe 2000 years ago. you’ll have to send me the link …. loser
Arminius,
I checked your site. I apologize for stealing from it. I must counter the isreali/lebanon death posts.
Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: “We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?”
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.”
–60 Minutes (5/12/96)
iamme has called me a “wet noodle” which is a flaccid male appendage. The name “wet noodle” should not be confused with the starchy, little carbohydrate thing, that’s in a hot-dish, or something. That would be derogatory and offensive to me, because of my moral opposition to starch. In the other hand, I am not opposed to the male appendage in any form. In fact, I like my appendage quite a bit.
Now, I think G.Elliot has implied that I have developed a false woman-hating, bagel bashing persona. It is quite true, I have bashed the bagel, because of all the harm it has caused. It is the starch contained in the bagel, that is the true culprit. Now most men have observed women who have a starch overload. It is frightening to deal with a woman with that mental condition. Now, chronic starch overload has caused many a woman to live bizarre unhappy lives, evidenced to no small degree by the women who frequently post on this blog. Besides the chronic psychological impairment, there is of course, the problem with these women becoming fat. At that point there is no man to love them, thereby exacerbating the problem. This is a sad, vicious cycle these poor women must endure, and my heart goes out to them. My heart goes out even more to the men who must put up with them.
Contrary to the idea that I hate women, I do in fact love them immensely, despite all the grief they have caused men and all the problems they have created throughout human history, and continue to cause today. Now, impaired by starch as never before, they are the cause of most every human misery in the world. Still, this is not a hopeless situation, because I can help them.
“Again, there is no question that the Muslims are the aggressors here and are ultimately responsible for the deaths of their own people.”
Boy is that a relative statement. From a person standing on the sidelines Id say both are taking shots at each other. Or maybe you think the settlements are legit? Killing isnt the answer but neither are more settlements.
This crisis has been on the horizon for DECADES and you’ve done NOTHING.
Didn’t a certain “boomer” president try and do something about SS. Who was it that shot that down again.
“Didn’t a certain “boomer” president try and do something about SS. Who was it that shot that down again.”
Yeah, he wanted to put it in the stock market. Nice idea. What did the market do about 6 months after he floated that one?
“And, and Bulbs to replace”
How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?
How many to complain that changing the bulb will contribute to global warming?
How many to complain that changing the bulb is the responsibility of the government?
How many to complain that changing the bulb is racist because the bulb emits white light?
How many to blame Bush for the old bulb burning out?
“Who was it that shot that down again.”
The Boomers who voted against.
philthy_sanchez:
No need to apologize. In fact, I encourage people to download the free book about the Clintons at www.sinsofthehusband.com.
“The Boomers who voted against”
Did your Boomer parents abuse you when you were young?
“The Boomers who voted against.”
did you fall down and go boom.
boom boom out go the lights
Mr. sanchez, I have never played baseball so I don’t know if I am a switch hitter. I think it means you bat on both sides of the plate. I do some things with my left hand, but I am right handed. I deal cards with my left hand, but I don’t play cards, so it doesn’t matter. I also have a dominant left eye.
Now, my own man thing is what I like, but I am not liking another man’s thing in a sexual sense, because I am 100% a normal man, sexually. I like only women, in a sexual sense.
Sometimes I like women in several sick, perverse ways, but it’s really their fault (this is supposed to be funny).
“Did your Boomer parents abuse you when you were young?”
No. I think the greatest generation raised the most selfish generation.
“I dont have people on the street stoping me because I have ona suit and tie and say, “Thanks for being a banker. You are such a good person”.
A banker? I don’t think you should get your hopes up :)
“An Israeli air raid has killed at least 17 Lebanese civilians who were fleeing southern border areas.
Women and children were among those killed when the convoy was hit. “Bodies litter the road,” an eyewitness said””
killing innocents is always bad blah. but maybe the so called witnesses in some of these cases are just lying. propaganda is a powerful weapon. and maybe the people who say hamas and their kindred do hide behind civilians are right. i dont know the answer to either question. but i am pretty sure rockets are fired into isreal every day, sometimes hundreds of times.
a nation has the right to defend themselves. perhaps if isreal stopped believing in the idea of an equivalent response and just went in there and removed the threat in the first place, it would save civilian lives in the long run.
Arminius,
are you Kevin Groenhagen?
“but maybe the so called witnesses in some of these cases are just lying”
Oh Okay. The BBC lied Huh?
“propaganda is a powerful weapon. ”
I know. You’ve swallowed your fair share of it.
philthy_sanchez:
No, but I know Kevin Groenhagen.
“Sometimes I like women in several sick, perverse ways, but it’s really their fault (this is supposed to be funny).”
Have you ever givin a woman a filthy sanchez?
No. I think the greatest generation raised the most selfish generation.
No, your federal government did that.
“Oh Okay. The BBC lied Huh?”
and exactly where in your post do you say the bbc was the witness ??
“How many Lebanese civilians were killed by the Israeli army last year? ”
Had Hamas not decided to attack Israel first, then hide behind Lebanese civilians, Israel would not have killed any Lebanese civilians.
“Bodies litter the road,”
This was the eye whitness statement. The BBC reported that a convoy of civilians trying to escape the air raids where bombed and killed. So what lie are you talking about? The dead Lebanese women and children or the bodies in the road?
Mr. sanchez, I looked that up on the urban dictionary, and no, I would never, ever do such a thing. I am shocked there is even such a thing. I think, I am actually very naive about sexual things.
“No, your federal government did that.”
You must not be a citizen then.
“Had Hamas not decided to attack Israel first, then hide behind Lebanese civilians, Israel would not have killed any Lebanese civilians.”
How many Hamas gunmen were in the van the Israel govt blew up killing 17 civilians? Nice dodge though.
““propaganda is a powerful weapon. ”
I know. You’ve swallowed your fair share of it. ”
you might not believe some of the same things i believe blah, but attributing my views to propaganda is incorrect. i have the luxury of spending a couple of hours a day reading the news and talking to people in almost every part of the world. i read sites from india, australia, scotland, englan, holland, etc, etc. my beliefs and prejudices have been formed by researching what is going on from people and news organizations in their own countries. i dont rely on fox or cnn to give me a balanced view of world events.
am i always right ??? probably, but i’ll concede the point that there is a very very slight chance i have been wrong at least once in my life. but at least im educating myself and not relying on the evening news
You must not be a citizen then.
oops our
“am i always right ??? probably, but i’ll concede the point that there is a very very slight chance i have been wrong at least once in my life.”
Just like I thought. It couldnt be any funnier than this. Thanks. Just what I needed to end a long week.
“but at least im educating myself and not relying on the evening news”
Funny, Im doing the same thing. Only I actually know some Muslims.
“How many Hamas gunmen were in the van the Israel govt blew up killing 17 civilians? Nice dodge though.”
None. they were in the amunition and missle trucks hideing in the same convoy for cover.
“This was the eye whitness statement”
i got that part blah. i want to know in who’s body that eye belonged to. was it a bbc reporter ??? or was it some anonymous person who just happened to be in the area and the bbc took his word for it ???
“Only I actually know some Muslims.”
yeah ok , so you want a prize ??? so you know a couple of muslims. how about the other 1.2 billion ??? you know them too ??
guess what markie, i worked with 2 muslim guys for 4 years .. thats right. and guess what, i even had lunch and looked at girls with them !!! does that mean i know everything about every other muslim n the world like you markie ???
Take the statement out then. The reality is that civilians are being killed by both sides. Many more Lebanese civilians died in that uprising than Israelis. Thats the truth. Its an F ed up situation on both sides. Equally stupid and short sighted all around. But some people are so blinded by prejudice they ignore huge chunks of the truth.
“does that mean i know everything about every other muslim n the world like you markie ??”
Lets get real here Stevek. Its no secret how you think about Islam and Muslims. You also say you are never wrong. So put it together and yes I think you do “think” you know everything about the other 1.2 billion Muslims.
“Take the statement out then. The reality is that civilians are being killed by both sides.”
Yes I see that this is the reasoning that Mr. 4blahs was getting at. It is truly sad but also very truly true. I hate to see civilians on either side but this must be accepted and used to stop such carnage as I have never seen. Yes this will be a good outcome.
When I read about the filthy sanchez, it made me depressed. I like to tease women, but I would never harm them. I said American women deserve the cane, but I would never want any woman to ever be struck at all, or harmed in any way. That would be terrible. I feel awful and depressed that something like a filthy sanchez has ever been done to any woman.
it goes both ways leland8
“I feel awful and depressed that something like a filthy sanchez has ever been done to any woman.”
It can be done to guys too Leland. Just ask D2.
“Yes I see that this is the reasoning that Mr. 4blahs was getting at. It is truly sad but also very truly true. I hate to see civilians on either side but this must be accepted and used to stop such carnage as I have never seen. Yes this will be a good outcome.”
Pilthy S = Lealand 8
It’s obvious I’m just a wet noodle, living in my own pathetic little world. Goodbye, blog friends.
“It can be done to guys too Leland. Just ask D2.”
Dare2sayit likes to indulge in a little mischief?
“How many Hamas gunmen were in the van the Israel govt blew up killing 17 civilians? Nice dodge though.”
I don’t know.
What I do know? On 7/14/06 Hezbollah (sorry, I forgot Hamas launches their rockets from the West Bank) launched over 100 rockets into Israel, provoking Israel’s response.
It’s terrible that civillians got killed on both sides, but Israel was not the aggressor. As I see it, Hezbollah deserves most of the credit for costing those civillians their lives.
good buy my freind leland8 for I will surly miss you with all my soul. The soul is so very good for the sanchez.
“Pilthy S = Lealand 8″
Does this mean we are equals as bloggers?
Ms. Katherine, I just want to say, happy 3 year anniversary. I see you started sometime in March 2005. Best wishes for continued success with your very good blog.
KK writes, For their part, Forest Lake High administrators should come clean, and acknowledge – as they did initially – that political pressure forced some of our most courageous vets out of a Minnesota public school.
Wrong,KK, this was not about the veterans, but about the organization. If you truly believe that VFV is a non-partisan group, check this web site: http://www.sourcewatch “dot” org/index “dot” php?title=Vets_for_Freedom
Here is clear evidence that VFV is a pro-war group with very close ties to the Bush White House and Republican operatives.
And you still have not answered my question. If the FLHS presentation was supposed to be a “non-political” event “closed to the public,” why was Congresswoman Bachmann going to be present? Is she a veteran? No. Is she a member of the public? Yes. Oh, I forgot, she’s a Republican who supports the war.
So much for a non-political event closed to the public.
Finally, KK, if an anti-war group had been scheduled to make a non-political presentation at the school with war veterans as speakers and that event had been cancelled under similar circumstances, would you be this upset? I suspect not.
“Ms. Katherine, I just want to say, happy 3 year anniversary. I see you started sometime in March 2005. Best wishes for continued success with your very good blog.”
im very sorry i live so far away le8, i would very happily get together, drink slurpies and see if we could come to some type of accord.
leland8, definition of ‘wet noodle’ is as follows:
Webster’s New Millennium™ Dictionary of English - Cite This Source - Share This Main Entry: wet noodle
Part of Speech: n
Definition: a person who is pessimistic or depressing; a naysayer
Example: Nobody wants that wet noodle around.
Webster’s New Millennium™ Dictionary of English, Preview Edition (v 0.9.7)
Copyright © 2003-2008 Lexico Publishing Group, LLC
Where you ever got the idea it means a flaccid male appendage is beyond me. I said to google it. If you google “definition of wet noodle” you can read the definition.
I was not using a sexual derogative against you at all.
Excerpts from “War is a Racket” by
Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient Major General Smedley D. Butler - USMC:
“War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small ‘inside’ group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.”
“I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we’ll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns six percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.
“I wouldn’t go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes, and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
“There isn’t a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its “finger men” to point out enemies, its “muscle men” to destroy enemies, its “brain men” to plan war preparations, and a “Big Boss” Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.”
SteveK and Leland,
Count me in for the slurpie get together if that goes through. Maybe that could be considered the Think Again Christmas Party.
Wow!
BM is back!
If the radical Muslim fanatics in Iraq didn’t have allies in the democrat party who make things difficult for our armed forces, our soldiers would probably all be coming home victorious by now.
“Count me in for the slurpie get together if that goes through. Maybe that could be considered the Think Again Christmas Party. ”
that would be great d2, but in deference to le8 maybe we should call it something like Humanist’s vision of a good future party or something else non-offensive to our good friend.
“Mr. stevek is an Islamophohe, or maybe a Muslimophobe, but I think, he secretly wants to convert. I’ll bet in less than a year, it will happen.”
you know le, this did catch my eye and i wanted to address it. its kind of funny, but i thought about the same thing. underneath that absurd, balmy, brainless, crazy, daffy, daft, dotty, fatuous, hare brained, half-witted, insane, loony , mad, nonsensical, preposterous, sappy, senseless, silly, simpleminded, unwise, wacky, weak-minded, witless and zany exterior of yours, you just might be an astute observer of human nature.
for its occurred to me that a civilization thats too weak and decadent to fight for its own survival probably doesnt deserve to survive. and on that day it becomes apparent that the west is just going to curl up in a fetal position and wait for the slaughter, i would probably convert to the dark side to help the cleansing begin. sure it may be another 1000 yrs dark age but the human spirit does yearn to be free and someday people will again fight for freedom
“If the radical Muslim fanatics in Iraq didn’t have allies in the democrat party who make things difficult for our armed forces, our soldiers would probably all be coming home victorious by now.”
And If big bussiness and big oil and big Coorporate Interests didn’t have allies in the republican party we may have Listened to Shisinski and Powell and gone in there with overwhelming force and be out by now with a clear victory.
The bush administration went into this war willy nilly giving it the “Old College Derferment Try”.
Its remarkable how much our troops have accomplished with so little support from the civilian leadership.
Victory is good. Pacifism is bad.
Leland,
Did you watch the video that stevek just provided a link to? Just wondering what your thoughts are on it.
Here is the link again leland:
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good idea d2.
hey backdoor dan, heres a link to a film put together by a dutch parliament member about the boogyman. www.liveleak.com(it may be slow, google for a mirror if you cant access the site).
i know, our politicians ar now paying off dutch politicians to stir up fear of the bogeyman. i get it, we are also paying off the muslim groups that are threatening violence for releasing a film that portrays islam as violent so we can stir up fear and have people somehow come to the conclusion that islam is violent. it must be very hard for you liberal regressives to twist logic around so.
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JonR wrote: “Wrong,KK, this was not about the veterans, but about the organization. If you truly believe that VFV is a non-partisan group, check this web site: http://www.sourcewatch “dot” org/index “dot” php?title=Vets_for_Freedom”
JonR - follow your sources. The article posted on the sourcwatch website is a quote from the Nick Coleman article from this very paper - in which his research is attributed to The Center for Media and Democracy. He further states that this site is a “…liberal media watchdog group…”. Don’t assume that everything posted on the sourcewatch site is non-partisan. Coleman quoting a liberal website about the VFF doesn’t make those allegations true - it makes them suspect.
Dep5900: That’s priceless. Good work.
Comrade Nick Coleman is an embarrassment to the State of Minnesota, just like Keith Hakim Ellison.
“BM is back!”
WHHOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
I believe that’s $64,000 blog dollars for tluck!!!
I’m doublin’ down again!!
I guess every state has to have a Berkeley.
Stevek,
Your video link on Islam in Holland has been shut down. It seems the people who put it up are now getting death threats from Muslims (The Religion of Peace). I’m glad I got to see it though while it was up. Thanks again!
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The website showing an anti-Islam film by far-right Dutch MP Geert Wilders has said Saturday it was forced to remove the material, citing serious threats against its staff.
“Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, and some ill-informed More.. reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, Liveleak.com has been left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers,” a message in red, on the website’s front page, read.
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of course im not suprised d2. that peaceful , tolerant religion strikes again. of course the internet being what it is, there are going to be tons of places to view it. heres another h++p://www.themoviefitna.com/
i also have downloaded a copy in flash video format. if anyone has a place to mirror it let me know.
the movie can also be found at h++p://jihadwatch.org/
Markie writes, “Appreciate the soldiers yes but Im not going to fall all over myself to kiss military butts just because of a uniform. Its the person wearing the uniform that counts, not the uniform itself.”
Haven’t been here for a long time but some things never change, lil’ markie still makes moronic comments.
So, let me check, the black and white pictures of soldiers going up Omaha Beach, none of those soldiers have your respect or thanks because you don’t know the man?
i also found the movie widely available by torrent.
“Your video link on Islam in Holland has been shut down.”
Another shot across our bow of self censore to appease the tyrants of freedom. We are joining the silent majority Imiams and the silent majority civilian Muslum masses in the face of Islamic Threats. Its a sorry day for freedom and democracy when we can be terrorized and cowed into self disinformation to appease a greater evil.
the movie largely shows footage of terrorist attacks and footage of imams and muslims in the street protesting against anything that offends them. (what a massive list that is). here are some reactions to the film:
The Organization of the Islamic Conference added its voice to the growing criticism of a film released by a Dutch lawmaker, which features disturbing images of terrorist acts superimposed over verses from holy Quran.
KUALA LUMPUR, Sat: Former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad called upon Muslims worldwide to boycott Dutch products in protest of a film released Monday on the Internet which criticised Islam’s holy book, the Quran.
Morocco’s Communications Minister Khalid Naciri said Wilders was “mentally retarded”.
Pakistan has summoned the Dutch ambassador in Islamabad to lodge a protest over a controversial film on Islam, Fitna, published online.
are all these people mombers of the “tiny minority”
do any of these islamic organiztions comment on the films subject matter ?? of course not. they cant. wilders barely included any original material. he simply compiled video of imams and the carnage caused by those who cite the quoran as their inspiration. yet muslims are outraged.
they are just like our friend and fellow blogger clarence, they have no way to counter the facts, so they attack the messanger
Iran called the film heinous, blasphemous and anti-Islamic and called on European governments to block any further showing.
Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim nation and a former Dutch colony, also condemned the film.
This is just like when the cartoon incident happened. With Islam, there is no such thing as freedom of speech, and the penalty is death.
you want to know what the saddest thing is ?? look at thecoverage for us dhimmis from abc news. the headline says:Uproar Over Anti-Islam Film Falls Flat
they also give a muslim scholar an opportunity to “explain” the verses used by wilders in his film.
the full link is here:
h++p://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4544952&page=1
“Woman says TSA forced piercings removal”
By GREG RISLING, Associated Press Writer
Thu Mar 27, 7:09 PM ET
LOS ANGELES - A Texas woman who said she was forced to remove a nipple ring with pliers in order to board an airplane called Thursday for an apology by federal security agents and a civil rights investigation.”
dubble_a_ron are ya sure it was just the lighter you had to give up before boarding TSA?
“Woman says TSA forced piercings removal”
By GREG RISLING, Associated Press Writer
Thu Mar 27, 7:09 PM ET
LOS ANGELES - A Texas woman who said she was forced to remove a nipple ring with pliers in order to board an airplane called Thursday for an apology by federal security agents and a civil rights investigation.”
dubble_a_ron are ya sure it was just the lighter you had to give up before boarding TSA?
They were talking about this woman on the KQ Morning show yesterday. Not the most attractive woman in the world I hear. It kind of sounds like she was really hoping for for an incident like this to happen, much the stunt pulled by the Flying Imam’s and the anti-American Muslim pressure group CAIR.
This is the last time I buy tools made in communist China. I was doing some work on my truck this morning, and my chinese made jack broke down on me again, second time in a couple of years.
Mr. Stevek and Mr. Dare2, It would be my pleasure to meet you both, someday. Thanks for bringing up the idea.
Regarding the film clip, I was unable to view it.
I think the protest over the anti-Islamic clip is similar to when Jewish people protest expressions of anti-Jewish sentiment. In most of Europe and Canada, discussions about the holocaust, which questions the historic event, are largely banned. Same is true in the US, not by law, but through pressure from various groups. It even is difficult to have a discussion in the US, about the influence of the Israeli lobby in Washington. So, there is plenty of censorship and pressure for censorship, that goes on all the time. I could cite other examples.
The film apparently depicted a direct attack upon Islam. To directly attack some one’s religion is about as low and as repugnant as one can go. It should be no surprise that people would be offended. To make threats against people showing the film is always wrong, but the emotion provoked is certainly understandable.
“The film apparently depicted a direct attack upon Islam.”
Leland, much of Islam is a direct attack on the civilized world.
I also hope we can meet someday for slurpies (or some good beer from Holland)!
Remember before the North Stars where sold Norm had everyone calling “The Stars” leaving out the North. Well it was a setup for the big move.
I’ve heard a lot of Democrats lately saying “Our Democracy” Folks we are NOT a “democracy” we are a “Representative Democratic Republic” BIG difference.
I think it’s a thing like Norm to move towards to removing the Electoral College. Set the mind frame up..
So lets remind our friends when they say “Our Democracy” that its a “Representative Democratic Republic” and they should read up on it.
Eliminating the Electoral College would be a huge mistake.
I really hated it when Norm Green changed the name to “The Stars” from the North Stars. I figured something was up, what a prick.
Good point about our “Representative Democratic Republic”
It’s interesting that when you look at a national map showing election results by county, the map will appear to show a very clear Republican victory. However, when high density counties like Hennepin which foolishly elected leftists like Keith Hakim Ellison to office, the map doesn’t mean that much
As my truck-driver daughter said after looking at the video of the entrance to Kansas City: “What a difference 400 miles of I35 makes.”
…Keith Hakim Ellison…
Once again you repeat your lie about his true middle name. Why am I not surprised?
JonR,
Wouldn’t a name you give yourself mean more than one someone else gives you?
I’m curious how many readers there are out there who never post comments. Could you please identify yourselves now with a quick comment? Thanks.
dare2: I have access to some daily numbers on readers. Yesterday, for example, there were almost 5,800. You are one of the brave few who dare2sayit.
“I’ve heard a lot of Democrats lately saying “Our Democracy” Folks we are NOT a “democracy” we are a “Representative Democratic Republic” BIG difference.”
And as Ben Frankilin said.
“If you can keep it”
We’re doing a poor job of that.
Anybody hear/read Obama’s economic speech earlier this week?
When people start taking about “shared prosperity”, tluck gets worried, very worried.
“there were almost 5,800″
Is that the best you can do? ; )
Congratulations Katherine!!
Can you tell how many are able to comment?
Thanks Katherine,
I didn’t realize there were so many readers!
“Anybody hear/read Obama’s economic speech earlier this week?
When people start taking about “shared prosperity”, tluck gets worried, very worried.”
Obama’s speech sounds like something communist dictator Fidel Castro would spew.
Against my nature and better judgement I’ll gotta pass on that terrific setup for a zinger.
“dare2: I have access to some daily numbers on readers. Yesterday, for example, there were almost 5,800. You are one of the brave few who dare2sayit.”
i hope alot of them decided to take a peek at gert’s film. that might be a good blog subject kk.
Keith Hakim Ellison
d2si,
You were proved a liar on this a long time ago. It’s typical of your ilk to ignore the truth and continue repeating lies. I’m not surprised. He NEVER gave himself the name Keith Hakim Ellison.
5,800 read what Katherine says. 58 read what all the rest of us say, and most of those readers, are us.
Mr. dare2 gave Keith Hakim Ellison, the name Keith Hakim Ellison. It’s not a lie.
Hi, all,
Stevek, your post of March 28 at 6:29 pm contains the most ingenious list of printable invective I have seen in a long time — and alphabetized, too! Thanks!
Since the writer of this blog apparently reads comments here, I’d like to tell her how repellent I find her worldview, and how much damage she does the formerly great state of Minnesota.
I’m sorry she had to miss the Nazi era in Germany, where she would have felt like a pig in slop, but rest assured that people like you are at least producing an echo of that time in present day America.
Thanks a lot.
Since the writer of this blog apparently reads comments here, I’d like to tell her how repellent I find her worldview, and how much damage she does the formerly great state of Minnesota.
I’m sorry she had to miss the Nazi era in Germany, where she would have felt like a pig in slop, but she should rest assured that people like her are at least producing an echo of that time in present day America.
Well done.
Hi, all,
For it’s occurred to me that a civilization that’s too weak and decadent to fight for its own survival probably doesn’t deserve to survive.
Stevek, thank you again!
The ignorant self-promoter Hegseth and the other jingoists ought to read this:
‘On 1 May 2007, the Center for Economic and Policy Research of Washington, DC, released a study prepared by the economic and political forecasting company Global Insight on the long-term economic impact of increased military spending. Guided by economist Dean Baker, this research showed that, after an initial demand stimulus, by about the sixth year the effect of increased military spending turns negative. The US economy has had to cope with growing defence spending for more than 60 years. Baker found that, after 10 years of higher defence spending, there would be 464,000 fewer jobs than in a scenario that involved lower defence spending.
Baker concluded: “It is often believed that wars and military spending increases are good for the economy. In fact, most economic models show that military spending diverts resources from productive uses, such as consumption and investment, and ultimately slows economic growth and reduces employment”’
It has occurred to me that a society that is too willfully ignorant and mean-spirited to recognize its own self interest will not survive.
This was meant for Stevek and Former Carrier:
“It has occurred to me that a society that is too willfully ignorant and mean-spirited to recognize its own self interest will not survive.”
BTW:
All those of you who congregate here and drive up KK(K)’s blog hit numbers, help advance her career above all else, while you also abet the dismantling of the American middle class. Proud of yourselves?
KK(K) is a formula, nothing else; she feeds red meat for the ignorant, angry white male masses.
She and her betters on the national stage are pied pipers leading this country over the cliff and into the abyss.
BM (Comrade Michael Blaine)is back and boy is pissed.
jcf817 says:
“d2si,
You were proved a liar on this a long time ago. It’s typical of your ilk to ignore the truth and continue repeating lies. I’m not surprised. He NEVER gave himself the name Keith Hakim Ellison.”
Here is a brief history of Keith Hakim Ellison (Louis Farakkhans first Congressman). Real intelligent choice you lib’s made jcf817!
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1987–Ellison enrolls in University of Minnesota Law School
1989–Ellison publishes the first of two articles in the University of Minnesota Daily under the alias “KEITH KAKIM.” In the first such article, Ellison speaks up for the Nation of Islam.
1990–Ellison participates in the sponsorship of the anti-Semitic speech by Kwame Ture given at the University of Minnesota Law School (”Zionism: Imperialism, White Supremacy or Both?”). Ellison rejects the appeal of Jewish law students to withdraw sponsorship of the lecture. Ellison graduates from University of Minnesota Law School.
1992–Ellison appears as speaker at demonstration against Minneapolis police with Vice Lords leader Sharif Willis following the murder of Officer Haaf by four Vice Lords gangsters in September.
1993–Ellison leads demonstration chanting “We don’t get no justice, you don’t get no peace” in support of Vice Lords defendant on trial for the murder of Officer Haaf. Ellison attends Gang Summit in Kansas City with Willis.
1995–Ellison supports Million Man March, appears at organizing rally with former Nation of Islam spokesman Khalid Muhamm*d at University of Minnesota. Ellison acts as local Nation of Islam leader in march at office of U.S. Attorney in Minneapolis protesting indictment of Qubilah Shabazz for conspiring to murder Louis Farrakhan. Ellison charges FBI with conspiring to murder Farrakhan. Ellison writes article under alias “Keith X Ellison” attacking Star Tribune for criticizing Louis Farrakhan. Here it is; click to enlarge:
1997–Ellison appears under alias “Keith Ellison-Muhammad” at Minnesota Initiative Against Racism hearing in support of Joanne Jackson. Ellison defends “the truth” of Jackson’s statement that “Jews are the most racist white people.” This is the Star Tribune’s article on the controversy, which refers to Ellison’s statement:
1998–Ellison first runs for DFL endorsement for state representative. Ellison identifies himself as member of Nation of Islam in Insight News article on his candidacy. Ellison runs for endorsement under alias “Keith Ellison-Muhamm*d.” This is the Insight News article; click to enlarge:
2000–Ellison gives speech supporting Kathleen Soliah/Sara Jane Olson at National Lawyers Guild fundraiser. Demands Soliah/Olson’s release. Asks audience to recall time when “Qubilah Shabazz was prosecuted in retribution against Minister Farrakhan.” Speaks favorably of cop killers Mumia Abu-Jamal and Assata Shakur.
May 2006–Ellison writes letter to JCRC asserting involvement with Nation of Islam limited to 18 months supporting Million Man March.
August 2006–Ellison appears at unpublicizied fundraiser with CAIR executive director and Hamas supporter Nihad Awad among featured guests.
What are we to make of this? Take a look at Ellison’s May 28 letter to the Jewish Community Relations Council; it has served as the keystone of his campaign. That letter to the contrary notwithstanding, the documents posted above nevertheless by themselves establish that 1) Ellison’s involvement with the Nation of Islam exceeded any 18-month period, 2) Ellison’s involvement with the Nation of Islam extended far beyond the promotion of the Million Man March, and 3) that Ellison himself, far from being ignorant of the Nation of Islam’s anti-Semitism, actively supported it.
The steadfast refusal of the local Minnesota media to examine Ellison’s public record in the course of his congressional campaign represents a striking case of nonfeasance, incompetence and willfully averted eyes that is a story unto itself.
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Link to Keith Ellison for Dummies:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/015415.php
michael Blaine had a strange hobby
Collecting clothes
Moonshine washing line
They suit him fine
On the wall hung a tall mirror
Distorted view, see through baby blue
He dug it
Oh, michael blaine
It’s not the same, takes two to know
Two to know, two to know, two to know
Why can’t you see?
Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine
Now he’s caught - a nasty sort of person.
They gave him time
Doors bang - chain gang - he hates it
Oh, Michael Blaine
It’s not the same, takes two to know
two to know, two to know, two to know,
Why can’t you see?
Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine
Don’t do it again.
“dare2: I have access to some daily numbers on readers. Yesterday, for example, there were almost 5,800. You are one of the brave few who dare2sayit.”
i hope alot of them decided to take a peek at gert’s film. that might be a good blog subject kk.
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Great idea stevek. Hopefully Katherine will give this story the exposure it deserves. No one else at the Star Democrat Tribune will, that’s for sure.
I hear rumours that management might be changing the name of the paper to Krasnaya Zvezda tribune.
Jihadist threat over Fitna: “If there is no check on the freedom of your words, then let your hearts be open to the freedom of our actions”
Isn’t there some deal going on now in the Minnesota Attorney Generals office. Some kind of investigation. I’m searching all over the Red Star can’t find a thing. Then I remembered what political party she belongs to.
Gezzzz No Sunday fold out I guess. No hard hittin’ newspaper investigation. No quotes from anonymous source ( other news room guys )
Got to love this paper…don’t Ya
“I’m searching all over the Red Star”
LOL, good job tiny. i wondered if anyone would bother LOL
Riyadh: March 29, 2008.
No churches should be permitted in Saudi Arabia, unless Pope Benedict XVI recognised the prophet Mohammed, according to a Middle East expert.
While Saudi mediators are working with the Vatican on negotiations to allow places of religious worship, some experts believe it will not occur without this recognition.
Anwar Ashiqi, president of the Saudi centre for Middle East strategic studies, endorsed this view in an interview on the site of Arab satellite TV network, al-Arabiya on Thursday.
“I haven taken part in several meetings related to Islamic-Christian dialogue and there have been negotiations on this issue,” he said.
“It would be possible to launch official negotiations to construct a church in Saudi Arabia only after the Pope and all the Christian churches recognise the prophet Mohammed.”
“If they don`t recognise him as a prophet, how can we have a church in the Saudi kingdom?”
The Red Star Democrat Tribune leaves democrat Lori Swanson alone while viciously attacking republican Carol Molnau. No LIBERAL BIAS going on there!
h++p://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article976258.ece
MUSLIM bus driver told stunned passengers to get off so he could PRAY.
The white Islamic convert rolled out his prayer mat in the aisle and knelt on the floor facing Mecca.
Passengers watched in amazement as he held out his palms towards the sky, bowed his head and began to chant.
One, who filmed the man on his mobile phone, said: “He was clearly praying and chanting in Arabic.
Route to Mecca … he kneels on prayer mat placed at front of the bus
Route to Mecca … he kneels on prayer mat
placed at front of the bus
“We thought it was a wind-up at first, like Jeremy Beadle.”
The 21-year-old plumber added: “He looked English and had a London accent. He looked like a Muslim convert, with a big, bushy beard.
See video of the driver by clicking on the player below.
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“Eventually everyone started complaining. One woman said, ‘What the hell are you doing? I’m going to be late for work’.”
After a few minutes the driver calmly got up, opened the doors and asked everyone back on board.
But they saw a rucksack lying on the floor of the red single-decker and feared he might be a fanatic. So they all refused.
“MI5 and anti-terrorist police are carrying out secret background checks on thousands of scientists amid fears that Al Qaeda is trying to infiltrate British research laboratories to obtain deadly viruses.”
That’s just swell.
AMSTERDAM, 27/03/08 - The majority of the Dutch are negative on Islam and immigration. Additionally, their knowledge of Dutch history is meagre, according to a survey by three history professors.
According to 56 percent of the Dutch, Islam is a threat to the Dutch identity. As well, 57 percent named admitting large groups of immigrants as “the biggest mistake in Dutch history”.
Muslims students at the University of Miami have organized for the Islamic call to prayer, broadcasted each Friday afternoon this month from Richter Library’s clock tower in commemoration of Islamic Awareness Month.
The call to prayer, or Adhan, is spoken in Arabic and is meant to resonate throughout the area.
“It serves as constant reminder of when we have to pray, because prayer itself is a reminder of our religion and how we practice it,” said Selima Jumarali, the vice president of the organization.
According to the teachings of Islam, Muslims are to pray five times a day. In Muslim-majority countries, the call is usually performed live by an individual and is heard before every prayer.
Friday afternoon was chosen as the time to play the call because “it revolves around the day of congregational prayer,” Jumarali said. Like Saturday for Jews or Sunday for Christians, Friday “holds strong significance for Muslims,” she said.
Outside the library last Friday, students listened during the three-minute recording.
Ja-Ja-Ja-Ja-James Car-Car-Car-Car ville is on C-C-C-C-C.N.N.
From Jidah Watch:
When Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law.
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
100% will usher in the peace of “Dar-es-Salaam” — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
h++p://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2414
“Release of Fitna is causing panic in Dutch political circles. Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende says Wilders’ movie “threatens the nation.”
Wrong.
It is Islamic violence which threatens Holland and all of Europe. Exactly as in the 1930s, it is the weakness of European leaders which allows the threat to grow. Just as the League of Nations refused to stand up to fascism in pre-WW2 Europe, the United Nations grovels before Islam today.
But they do more that grovel. Out of fear they have actually taken up the work of Islam and are enforcing the Islamic law against “blasphemy” while the Islamists stand by approvingly. The role of the world’s leaders of Liberal Democracy in enforcing Islamic Law echoes the Koranic description of Armageddon (al-Malhamah al-Kubrah in Arabic). In it, Jesus returns to Earth at Damascus, becomes a Muslim and leads the Muslims in slaughtering all the Christians and Jews. As the Hadith explains;
“When the liar [the Christian enemies of Islam] will see Jesus, he will start dissolving like the salt in water.”
Apparently the Islamists expect that civil libertarians will similarly “dissolve” in the face of their leaders’ treachery.
“Ja-Ja-Ja-Ja-James Car-Car-Car-Car ville is on C-C-C-C-C.N.N.”
Tiny had to tur-tur-turn the sta-sta-sta-tion
h++p://www.dailypioneer.com/columnist1.asp?main_variable=Columnist&file_name=kanchan%2Fkanchan166%2Etxt&writer=kanchan
“Yes, there will be strident criticism and staunch opposition to any attempt to expose Islamofascism for what it is. And the most strident criticism and the staunchest opposition will not come from the OIC and the mullahs of Darul Uloom, Deoband, but from those who wilfully ignore facts to foist fiction which encourages bigoted hate mongers to typecast those who are appalled by Islamofascism as Islamophobes. The protest will primarily come from two quarters:
# The Lib-Left intelligentsia, which continues to labour under the self-perpetuating myth that all of Islam is a religion of peace and only an insignificant, fringe minority is to be blamed for distorting the great faith that was born in the sterile sands of Arabia; and,
# The so-called moderate Muslims who till now have skilfully used doublespeak to position themselves as representatives of the ummah, more so in liberal democracies. Their status is now seriously threatened by those who have no hesitation in acknowledging the true nature of Islam both as a faith and a weapon of subjugation.
Those who believe in liberty and freedom of thought need not fear either. Being charged with Islamophobia is a small price to pay for securing our future.
Benedict Blaine says:
“Since the writer of this blog apparently reads comments here, I’d like to tell her how repellent I find her worldview, and how much damage she does the formerly great state of Minnesota.”
Michelle Arnold,
Why do you grace us with your lack of an Adams Apple rants if you don’t like the host of this site or the blog comments.
Mr. Michael Blaine is back, and he’s back with a vengeance! He’s kicking butt, and taking no prisoners.
Welcome back, Mr. Blaine!!
“All those of you who congregate here and drive up KK(K)’s blog hit numbers, help advance her career above all else,”
Blog numbers that are what Michael, 5000x times yours. Your jealousy is quite evident and I have to tell you, it’s really funny to watch.
Why don’t you pitch your blog here anymore? There must be some newbie’s out there that don’t know your blog causes sores.
Doubin’ down again!!
Blaine the traitor says:
“All those of you who congregate here and drive up KK(K)’s blog hit numbers, help advance her career above all else”
Benedickt Blaine,
We appreciate your contributions to advanceing Katheines Carreer. Although we would prefer to do it without you and you anti-american phobias.
PS thanks for dropping your sign off signature (with or with out it we always knew it was you) and the butt plugging of your sorry blog site.
“Blog numbers that are what Michael, 5000x times yours. Your jealousy is quite evident and I have to tell you, it’s really funny to watch.”
Priceless!
Tluck.,
50.00 blog bucks we can run off the mangy mutt Blaine Drain within a week.
What are your total winnings to date?
What are your total winnings to date?
I’m 99.9% sure it’s $256,000
Snow melt will raise Lake Powell by 50 feet opening a short cut for boaters for the 1st time in 5 years. 5 years? Isn’t that when global warming started? Oh My Gawd. It’s over. GW is over. Can it be. Yes????
Dang, I forgot. Its weather. We need 50 years of lake rise to call it Climate Change.
Right? 5 years of lake dropping is Climate Change.
Carville looked like he wanted to kic-kic-kick Wolf Blitzers a-a-a-a-a-@ss
“Carville looked like he wanted to kic-kic-kick Wolf Blitzers a-a-a-a-a-@ss”
Now that would be on hair pulling, slap scracthing fight I’d like to see.
The Toad takes on the Hobbit.
I’d pay money to hear Carville sing “Bennie and the Jets”
Or would he have the Jim Nabors thing goin’ for him?
“I’m 99.9% sure it’s $256,000″
YeeHaw, Tlick’s buying.
“I’d pay money to hear Carville sing “Bennie and the Jets””
Carville and Porky Pig duet. Th-th-th-that’s all folks!
All kiddin’ aside folks. From what I can gather Carville must be a Cl-Cl-Cl-Cl-inton Supporter.
I am getting bored with all the anti-Muslim hate posts. I am wondering if there are any haters out there that could do some anti-semitic posts, just to break things up a little.
I know hating Jews isn’t in style right now, but there must be some, out of style, old haters still out there.
With haters now telling me everyday that Muslim’s are taking over the world, I am kind of nostalgic for the bad old days, when haters were telling me that the Jews were taking over the world.
Lelland8= jew hater?
“Carville must be a Cl-Cl-Cl-Cl-inton Supporter.”
Yep. He’s not very happy with Bill Richardson either for supporting Obama. Richson must be after the VP spot.
tell me it isn’t so, Leland
What do you have against Jews Leland?
It’s a great day to split wood. See ya later!
d2si,
Thanks for proving that you’re a liar.
Not once in any of your evidence did Congressman Ellison ever call himself Keith Hakim Ellison. But I’m sure you’ll conveniently ignore that truth, as well.
Here’s a song I wrote for Mr. stevek, and all the other haters of Muslims(it’s an original)
Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
There’s nothing you can do that can’t be done.
Nothing you can sing that can’t be sung.
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game
It’s easy.
There’s nothing you can make that can’t be made.
No one you can save that can’t be saved.
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be in time
It’s easy.
All you need is hate, all you need is hate,
All you need is hate, hate, hate is all you need.
Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
All you need is hate, all you need is hate,
All you need is hate, hate, hate is all you need.
There’s nothing you can know that isn’t known.
Nothing you can see that isn’t shown.
Nowhere you can be that isn’t where you’re meant to be.
It’s easy.
All you need is hate, all you need is hate,
All you need is hate, hate, hate is all you need.
All you need is hate (all together now)
All you need is hate (everybody)
All you need is hate, hate, hate is all you need.
“What do you have against Jews Leland?”
Irv tells me I am a Jew, because my mother is Jewish. I don’t know. Anyway, they (we) plan to take over the world. At least that’s what the haters used to say. Now, according to the haters, the Muslims are taking over the world. I wish the haters could get it right. I was getting my hopes up.
jcf817,
Read today’s 8:26 post. What the hell were you liberals thinking when you elected this idiot?
Leland,
No group is more filled with hate than Muslims. In many cases they even hate each other if they aren’t the right kind of Muslim.
Can’t we all just learn to hate one another?
I hate you
You hate me
Were a happy family
I am working on a new Barney song.
Leland,
Today’s 10:34 post shows what happens to countries as the percentage of Muslims increases. Name any other group which has a similar devastating effect?
Leland,
You forgot “All you need is hate”
(another Lennon song)
Hate thy neighbor, as you would hate thyself. - The Bible (with slight modification by leland8)
I know i stand in line, until you think you have the time
To spend an evening with me
And if we go someplace to dance, i know that there’s a chance
You won’t be leaving with me
And afterwards we drop into a quiet little place
And have a drink or two
And then i go and spoil it all, by saying something stupid
Like: “i hate you”
I can see it in your eyes, that you despise the same old lies
You heard the night before
And though it’s just a line to you, for me it’s true
It never seemed so right before
I practice every day to find some clever lines to say
To make the meaning come through
But then i think i’ll wait until the evening gets late
And i’m alone with you
The time is right your perfume fills my head, the stars get red
And oh the night’s so blue
And then i go and spoil it all, by saying something stupid
Like: “i hate you”
(”i hate you, i hate you,…”)
Leland,
What did you think about the Fitna video?.
U.S. Based Revolution Muslim Website Spreading Messages of Hate
NEW YORK, N.Y. — On any given day, log on to RevolutionMuslim.com and a host of startling images appear:
— The Statue of Liberty, with an ax blade cutting through her side;
— Video mocking the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl, entitled “Daniel Pearl I am Happy Your Dead :) “;
— Video of a puppet show lampooning U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq;
— The latest speech from Sheikh Abdullah Faisal, an extremist Muslim cleric convicted in the UK and later deported for soliciting the murder of non-Muslims.
Even more surprising is that RevolutionMuslim.com isn’t being maintained in some remote safe house in Pakistan. Instead, Yousef al-Khattab, the Web site creator, runs it from his home in the New York City Borough of Queens.
RevolutionMuslim dot com
Mr. dare2, I could not find the video using the link you suggested. Do you have another link?
D2SI:
I have come to hate you and your jingoistic, ignorant ilk, and I’m a Lutheran.
What do you have to say about that?
D2SI:
And, apparently a lot of Jews hate George W. Bush, according to this Weekly Standard article:
“When Will They Ever Learn…
Why do so many American Jews hate the president who stands by Israel?
by David Gelernter
07/31/2006, Volume 011, Issue 43″
When will you and your ilk speak out about them? The article equates their destructiviness with that of radical Palestinians.
When will you denounce them all?
Mr. Leland,
Go to h**p://jihadwatch dot org to see the Fitna video.
BM,
You are a liberal moron. At least you give readers of this blog something to laugh at.
“Can’t we all just learn to hate one another?”
le8, i must admit that i love you in a platonic, hateful kind of way.
heres another top forty hit, played again due to popular demand.
michael Blaine had a strange hobby
Collecting clothes
Moonshine washing line
They suit him fine
On the wall hung a tall mirror
Distorted view, see through baby blue
He dug it
Oh, michael blaine
It’s not the same, takes two to know
Two to know, two to know, two to know
Why can’t you see?
Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine
Now he’s caught - a nasty sort of person.
They gave him time
Doors bang - chain gang - he hates it
Oh, Michael Blaine
It’s not the same, takes two to know
two to know, two to know, two to know,
Why can’t you see?
Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine, Michael Blaine
Don’t do it again.
Rep. Hoekstra: Don’t Bow to Muslim Threats
The U.S. and the West must not be intimidated into curtailing free speech that might be offensive to radical Muslims, Rep. Peter Hoekstra declares.
In an Op-Ed piece in The Wall Street Journal, Hoekstra, R-Mich., cites the example of the anti-Islamic film “Fitna,” produced by Geert Wilders, a member of the Dutch parliament who has called for the banning of the Quran in the Netherlands.
Because of the film, the Netherlands is bracing for violence from Muslims at home and at embassies in the Middle East.
Wilders’ Internet service provider has bowed to the threats and taken down his Web site, although a political party in the Czech Republic agreed to host the video on its Web site, and the Dutch government tried unsuccessfully to convince Wilders not to release the film.
Closer to home, PBS last year tried to suppress “Islam vs. Islamists: Voices from the Muslim Center,” which was critical of radical jihadists. Fox News agreed to air the film.
And only one major newspaper in the U.S. reprinted any of the controversial 2005 Danish cartoons that mocked Islam and Muslims.
“Free societies hold freedom of speech to be a fundamental human right,” writes Rep. Hoekstra, the ranking Republican on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
“We don’t silence, jail, or kill people with whom we disagree just because their ideas are offensive or disturbing . . .
“What is particularly disturbing about these assaults against modern society is how the West has reacted with appeasement, willful ignorance, and a lack of journalistic criticism . . .
“I do not defend the right of Geert Wilders to air his film because I agree with it. I expect I will not . . . I defend the right of Mr. Wilders and the media to air this film because free speech is a fundamental right that is the foundation of modern society. Western governments and media outlets cannot allow themselves to be bullied into giving up this precious right due to threats of violence.”
Michael Blaine says:
“D2SI:
I have come to hate you and your jingoistic, ignorant ilk, and I’m a Lutheran.
What do you have to say about that?”
See, this is why I was against the Reagan Administrations deregulation of the mentally ill.
I think someone need s an intervention. Or Medication.
Michael Blaine says:
“When will you denounce them all?”
When your stupid blog accidentally makes it to the 5 hit per day mark, that would be my guess anyway.
Katherine’s a giver you know, but you have to earn it.
“See, this is why I was against the Reagan Administrations deregulation of the mentally ill.”
I protested against this, it was his only mistake!
Didn’t liberal democrat Jimmy Carter allow boat loads of criminals and the mentally ill from Cuba come to the United States? As sick as Fidel Castro is, I’m sure he’s still laughing about that deal.
“protested against this, it was his only mistake!”
And sending our troops into lebanon as peace keepers.
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
“And sending our troops into lebanon as peace keepers.”
A fools errand no doubt, but he should have doubled down after the bombing.
“Didn’t liberal democrat Jimmy Carter allow boat loads of criminals and the mentally ill from Cuba come to the United States”
Clinton did the samething. remember the 1994 Balseros crisis.
“A fools errand no doubt, but he should have doubled down after the bombing.”
He should have rejected the U.N.s rules of engagement.
“He should have rejected the U.N.s rules of engagement.”
At this point I thnk it’s time we rejected the UN completely. Can anybody defend this organization anymore? I’m willing to listen but…..
ABC Nightly News did a story tonight on the rapidly rising cost of food in America. The cost of some box cereal is now about $8.00. I have to give a liberal news source credit for admitting that a big reason for this is that farmers have quit growing grain and switch to corn for the ethanol subsidies, not to mention that corn is now used for ethanol and not food.
We have already learned that ethanol is more damaging to the environment than gasoline, so why are we still hurting ourselves like this?
Hey BM,
I expect that you will attack me again sometime tonight. If you’re up at around 4:30 AM you will see my reply.
Goodnight everyone!
Mr. dare2, I saw the Fitna film. It’s just a bunch of video clips collected off the web.
What makes the film repugnant is the attempt at tying it to the Qur’an. Also, the demeaning caricatures.
How would Christian people feel if Jesus or the virgin Mary were portrayed in demeaning caricatures? Angry, I am sure. Should Muslims just be happy to have Islam defamed? Muslims, by the way, would also be angry about demeaning attacks on Jesus or the virgin Mary.
Certainly people when constantly violated and oppressed by the US - Israeli - British policy are going to say and sometimes do things that are violent. You can’t expect that no one in a group will attempt in some way to fight back against their attackers.
Of course there are always extremist groups. If under constant attack and oppression, the way Muslims are, extremist “Christian” groups would likely form, and also turn to violent, desperate acts.
Anyone concerned about the violent, desperate acts of some Muslim people, should take a close look at the US policy of violent subjugation of Muslim people. It places things in perspective.
Leland,
Thanks for viewing the Fitna film. We disagree on this, but I’m glad you saw it.
By the way, your comment:
“How would Christian people feel if Jesus or the virgin Mary were portrayed in demeaning caricatures?”
It happens all the time Leland, but Christians don’t go out and kill people who insult Christianity, unlike the Muslims who kill in the name of Islam.
Mr dare2, Once I stopped allowing myself to be spoon-fed by the American media, and started doing my own research, I was in for a rude awakening and unpleasant discovery:
Those we are told are the good guys, are really most often the bad guys. Those portrayed as the bad guys, are mostly good guys. It’s almost always the case, not just with the Muslim issue. Bad guys are just really good at manipulating the media and controlling the flow of information (disinformation?).
“The U.S. and the West must not be intimidated into curtailing free speech that might be offensive to radical Muslims, Rep. Peter Hoekstra declares.”
Free speech that is offensive to American fascists like KK(K) and her ignorant butt boys here is even more precious.
“KK(K) and her ignorant butt boys”
That is hilarious. It’s the newly created subtitle for “Think again”. Ha-ha-ha.
“Free speech that is offensive to American fascists like KK(K)”
Keep going with the “KK(K)” thing Michael, it’s just so original. I can’t believe no one thought of that before.
“ignorant butt boys”
You really should deal with your projection issues Micheal. Like your jealousy issues, they’re quite obvious, and again, really funny to watch.
Sorry:
KK(K) and her merry band of ignorant butt boys.
To my knowledge, I’m the one who coined KK(K). So, yes, it is original.
The only “issue” I have with this site is a disgust issue.
leland8:
You are smart, decent fellow. Why do you keep coming back to this site?
There are many, many more intelligent, more constructive ones such as www.philipweiss.org.
I came back for this issue because ignorant, jingoistic self-promoter and his repellent band of warmongers (who have had the nerve to proclaim THEMSELVES heroes - imagine that, proclaiming from the rooftops: “Hey, I’m a hero! Look at me!!!!) crossed the line.
Sorry, some words were omitted above:
I came back for this issue because ignorant, jingoistic self-promoter Hegseth and his repellent band of warmongers (who have had the nerve to proclaim THEMSELVES heroes - imagine that, proclaiming from the rooftops: “Hey, I’m a hero! Look at me!!!!”) crossed the line with their political assault on Forest Lake High School.
Trust me, Hegseth is in this to launch his own political career, plain and simple.
“Sorry:”
Don’t be sorry for your intimate knowledge of merry butt boys. You’ve probably had more than your share of ignorant ones.
Projection, look it up on WebMd will ya!
“Hegseth is in this to launch his own political career, plain and simple.”
And he needs haters like KK(K) and her merry band of ignorant butt boys for support - these are the latter-day brown shirts our American fascists need.
“To my knowledge, I’m the one who coined KK(K). So, yes, it is original.”
I forgot, you only read your own posts. That would explain your ignorance.
“Since the writer of this blog apparently reads comments here, I’d like to tell her how repellent I find her worldview, and how much damage she does the formerly great state of Minnesota.” MICHAEL BLAINE
Ahh yes, the once great Minnesota. MB must be recalling with great fondness the public lynching of a black man in Duluth - or perhaps the hanging of eight Native Americans in the Mankato public square? Yep, sure was a great state back then. Hopefully Michael Blaine will get his way and we will return to our great fomer days!
“these are the latter-day brown shirts our American fascists need.”
Projection again.
Look it up Michael.
Mr. Blaine, I’ve never posted on any other political blog. I started posting here when I was, I thought, in the process of converting to Islam. I was offended by the anti-Islamic sentiment expressed here. I still am. I have prejudices myself, which I am trying to change. I think people can change. I like the people here. All of them. I think some don’t like me, but that’s okay. I tend to separate people from their ideas. Maybe more than I should. I don’t know.
Yes, tluck, you are on to me:
I am a latter day brown shirt.
Good catch.
Jeremy A:
I’m thinking of the Minnesota of the 1970’s and 1980’s, when the state’s quality of life was much better than now.
“Yes, tluck, you are on to me:
I am a latter day brown shirt.
Good catch.”
No, you’re a present day brownshirt, and you’re to ignorant to realize it.
“I tend to separate people from their ideas.”
I don’t, leland8, when the ideas threaten my well-being, and the “ideas” of America’s radical Republicans certainly do threaten my well-being, and that of everyone else, for that matter.
Example A: The worst financial crisis since the Great Depression that we’re going through now.
Example B: The worst income inequality since the 1920’s.
Example C: The biggest trade and budget deficits in the nation’s history.
Example D: The lowest level of good will toward the US around the world ever measured.
Example E: The largest proportion of adults in prison of any nation in the world.
And so on.
“lat·ter-day /ˈlætərˌdeɪ/
1. of the present period or time; modern: the latter-day problems of our society.”
latter-day=present
tluck, you’re an under-educated buffoon. That’s why you fall for the propaganda that you do.
Main Entry: lat·ter–day
Pronunciation: \ˈla-tər-ˌdā\
Function: adjective
Date: 1832
1 : of present or recent times
2 : of a later or subsequent time
Nice try Michael. Thanks for proving my point. Fascist.
“’I tend to separate people from their ideas.’”
“I don’t, leland8, when the ideas threaten my well-being, and the “ideas” of America’s radical Republicans certainly do threaten my well-being, and that of everyone else, for that matter.”
A point well taken, Mr. Blaine.
Mr. Blaine, I agree with you on the Forrest Lake high school issue. I think I made some good points regarding that issue, the day it headlined Katherine’s blog.
I welcome you to stay on Katherine’s blog, to offer alternative points of view, that are often lacking.
You express yourself much better than I could ever express myself. You are very knowledgeable about the issues. Plus, it is fun to read your sparring matches with some of the others that post here. Please stay on the blog.
“You express yourself much better than I could ever express myself. You are very knowledgeable about the issues.”
Thanks, leland8, but you give me too much credit.
As much as it pains me, I’ve pretty much given up on American society ever righting the ship, as it were. All over I see ignorance, paranoia, hate among the masses, and a psychotic greed among elites.
Who will pull us out of the quagmire?
Better to continue investing my money - overseas - and move away from this land of dysfunction as soon as I can.
Having said that, I must acknowledge that the US does feature a good number of fantastic people and still-great institutions, but on balance this country just gets less and less hospitable and attractive as a place to live.
And for that I lay much of the blame at the feet of KK(K), and her national-level models Kristol, Limbaugh, Malkin, etc. - and their massive and merry band of ignorant butt boys who couldn’t recognize their own self interest if it bit them in the arse.
“I tend to separate people from their ideas.”
I don’t, leland8, when the ideas threaten my well-being, and the “ideas” of America’s radical Republicans certainly do threaten my well-being, and that of everyone else, for that matter.
See how it works leland? You only a good person it you beleive in “good” (Michaels’s) ideas.
Yep, tluck, I am a Fascist; I just can not sneak anything by you! You’re a latter-day Don Beaupre, intellectually speaking.
And, as such, I am pushing hard for the following:
“fas·cism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/
–noun 1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.”
You only a good person it you beleive in “good” (Michaels’s) ideas.
Sorry
You’re only a good person if you believe in “good” (Michael’s) ideas.
Finally I have the honor of meeting the Grrrrrrteat Michael Blaine. Lets give this guy a standing ovation shall we. Wonder full, wonder full. thanks for coming. And Id like to give my appretiations to the host of this Gala event, Kathering Kersten. Bravo Bravo.
But back to B.M. if I may.
I read your posts with the voice of that guy that narrerated the film projector movies in high school. You know the documentary sh:t. Oh wait , your only 12 so you wouldn’t remember that.
Anyway, your an idiot. How proud are your parents. I wouldn’t trust a guy with a username like yours.
What? no imagination in your gene pool.
“You’re a latter-day Don Beaupre,”
Ah come on, I’m Gump or at least Ceasar!!
And, as such, I am pushing hard for the following:
“fas·cism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/
–noun 1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.”
Exactly.
sanchez:
What on Earth are you blathering about? Your statement is mostly incoherent.
Do you all know what sanchez’ name refers to? I’m not exactly sure, but I know it involves sex and feces. I’m not kidding. Disgusting.
Do you all know what sanchez’ name refers to? I’m not exactly sure, but I know it involves sex and feces. I’m not kidding. Disgusting.
The pure mental genius is a sight to behold.
leland8:
I went back and read some of your initial comments on this post.
Yes, you made sense, yet the warmongering attack dogs came out in force to shout you down.
This society is imploding from within; I don’t think a nation of ignorant, paranoid pseudo-warriors has ever prospered for long.
BM
Whats that? Yeah, right there. What is that thing? Yeah, There. On your upper lip. What is that?
“…… who couldn’t recognize their own self interest if it bit them in the arse.”
Therein lies the problem.
In my lifetime, I have never known a time where in this country, there was so much rage and hatred toward other people. Especially toward immigrants and people from diverse cultures. Not just on this blog, but I have seen it in real life. It seems to me that hatred has been whipped up to a fevered pitch in this country. I fear and anticipate violence. Hatred is in the air, and it’s thick.
“Hatred is in the air, and it’s thick.”
No. No thats me. You should have heard it. Bean Burritos will get me everytime.
“Hatred is in the air.”
It sure is, leland8.
The right wing hates me for my pragamatic policy views, and I’m an upper-middle class white Lutheran male.
I can barely imagine how it must be for those who are more vulnerable.
But that’s the proto-fascism the White House has promoted, isn’t it? Keep society cowed while they steal, spy and torture.
“Hatred is in the air.”
It sure is, leland8.
The right wing hates me for my pragmatic policy views, and I’m an upper-middle class white heterosexual Lutheran male.
I can barely imagine how it must be for those who are more vulnerable.
But that’s the proto-fascism the White House has promoted, isn’t it? Keep society cowed while they steal, spy and torture.
“But that’s the proto-fascism the White House has promoted, isn’t it? Keep society cowed while they steal, spy and torture.”
Exactly.
Mr Blaine, What do you think of McCain?
My opinion: Potentially even worse than Bush. Some may think that’s impossible, but I think it is very possible.
BM
Alittle lower. I know you can do it. Comon. Stoop alittle lower. You’ve been down there before. You know where the bottom of the bucket is. Right there under that rock. Go on. Get back under there. Idiot.
Mr. Blaine, I am deeply saddened that you made that remark, directed toward Ms. Katherine. I think you were being baited.
Mr. sanchez, Enough.
Goodnight, blog friends.
BM,
Minnesota would be a much better place if you moved somewhere more appealing to you, like Cuba of North Korea.
Hey BM we liked it when you where gone. Give us a break will Ya.
“leland8 says:
March 30th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Mr Blaine, What do you think of McCain?”
A maniac for war. Inferior intellect. Old.
Roger Cohen says in yesterday’s NYT:
“Everything passes. In the 17th century, China and India accounted for more than half the world’s economic output. After a modest interlude, the pendulum is swinging back to them at a speed the West has not grasped.
It’s the end of the era of the white man; and, before it even began in earnest, of the white woman, too.”
LELAND8:
YOU SEEM TO BE A SMART GUY.
I WOULD URGE YOU TO LEAVE THIS LUNATIC ASYLUM FOR PROTO-FASCISTS MASQUERADING AS A BLOG AND GO TO INTELLIGENT SITES SUCH AS:
LELAND8:
YOU SEEM TO BE A SMART GUY.
I WOULD URGE YOU TO LEAVE THIS LUNATIC ASYLUM FOR PROTO-FASCISTS MASQUERADING AS A BLOG AND GO TO INTELLIGENT SITES SUCH AS:
BMdoesMichaelBlainethebackdoortowelboy dot org dot rumplystamped dot com
Michael: Your comments are welcome, even those of the sledgehammer variety. But the bathroom stuff (which I have erased) will get you bumped.
“Once I stopped allowing myself to be spoon-fed by the American media, and started doing my own research, I was in for a rude awakening and unpleasant discovery:”
your my friend le, perhaps the best friend i have.so dont take this like im patronizing you but dutch politicians arent members of the american media. you see, the netherlands atr in a continent called europe. thats E-U-R-O-P_E. thats a great big piece of land over a great big ocean far far away.
and please dont listen to heathens like that arnold layne fellow and leave this blog. i for one, would miss you very much.
and while your probably too modest to say it. i think i can take complete credit for your aborted conversion to islam. yes, your thanks are accepted. i am only too happy to have saved you from going over to the darkside.
“even those of the sledgehammer variety”
i think thats giving arnold too much credit. a sledgehammer implies somr type of force. im afraid arnold’s main forte is just blowing , not even hot, but lukewarm air. its a shame really. a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
I fully support Katherine’s deletion of a particular Michael Blaine post from last night.
I would liken it to wiping a poop smear off the wall more than I would liken it to censorship.
Mr. Blaine,
I’m guessing you and I vote pretty similarly but ewwww, really, ewww.
How do expect to influence anyone to embrace the policies you advocate if you’re going to act that way?
Really earned the “BM” moniker on that one.
Oh good BM is back. I thought you were gone forever BM? You just couldnt stay away could you?
“I don’t think a nation of ignorant, paranoid pseudo-warriors has ever prospered for long.”
LOL .. that sounds like a certain religious/political cult i love so much arnold.
Anyone hear Obama say that if you’re a young woman and you get pregnant, it’s a “punishment?”
“And for that I lay much of the blame at the feet of KK(K), ”
i , for one find katherine’s articles fair , informative and honest. im thankful that there still exists a place where normal people can post information and opinions without having it be sanctioned by the liberal regressive illuminati.
but im glad you showed up arnold. my good friend le8 keeps having his other friends like truth-concealer, clarence and in search of a clue, run off.
besides you, i think im the only real friend he really has. me and his imaginary friend irv that is.
“Oh good BM is back. I thought you were gone forever BM?”
I say that about every third day…
Katherine says:
“Michael: Your comments are welcome, even those of the sledgehammer variety. But the bathroom stuff (which I have erased) will get you bumped.”
Mrs. KK
To be fair and balanced please delete my
“March 30th, 2008 at 10:44 pm”. It’s not as graphic as BM’s post but it was implied.
This way You cannot be attacked as onesided:)
Hope your feeling better.
“Anyone hear Obama say that if you’re a young woman and you get pregnant, it’s a “punishment?”
im not suprised he holds those views towards women. after all he financially supports spreading hamas propaganda and supports the honoring of louie farrakahn and studies at the feet of kdaffi’s buddy.
“Anyone hear Obama say that if you’re a young woman and you get pregnant, it’s a “punishment?”
Was he talking about a typical young white woman?
“Anyone hear Obama say that if you’re a young woman and you get pregnant, it’s a “punishment?””
Humm…that sounds more Muslim like than Christian doesn’t it? I wonder who’s going to implode the fastest, him or Kanckles? I am finding this primary election the most fascinating ever.
“Was he talking about a typical young white woman?”
“Look, I got two daughters–9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby. I don’t want them punished with an STD at age 16.”
I never knew babies were a punishment.
Rather I thought it was a consequence of your choice of action.
So technically we are not in a recession?
Some one posted awhile back - 4blahs? - that we need 2 months of negative growth before it is considered a recession. I think I read it was 0.06% growth for February or maybe it was January.
Anyone hear Obama say that if you’re a young woman and you get pregnant, it’s a “punishment?”
And the context of the quote is?
I can see we are all in a racional mood today.
“Some one posted awhile back - 4blahs?”
Thats the accepted definition. We are a bunch of p*55ies. Try going to a country where not being able to afford a new Iphone ISNT the definition of a recession. Cutting back on the number of HD channels you get doesnt mean we are in recession people.
I agree with that $blahs. Cut back, layback and wait and see.
“I never knew babies were a punishment.”
Are you kidding? This is what your going to nit pick about?
lo que sucedió al selfrestrant de la responsabilidad personal.
“I don’t want them punished with an STD at age 16.””
Short Term Disability?
Short Term Disability?
Sexually Tiny Disease
He’s talking about abortion.
Hey, I’m not usually one to nit pick, but I thought this was an odd way to state his pro-choice view. There are several better ways to do it.
The quotation is from him expressing his views on abortion.
Some one posted awhile back - 4blahs? - that we need 2 months of negative growth before it is considered a recession.
I thought it was two consecutive quarters, not months.
What are two consecutive quarters Alex
EBF,
I googled. Your correct.
per Economagic.com
2007 01 0.6016
2007 02 3.8213
2007 03 4.9072
2007 04 0.5776
I didn’t realize that the carter years were better economically growth wise that the first 4 years of Reagan.
“What are two consecutive quarters Alex”
Fitty cent?
“I thought it was two consecutive quarters, not months.”
Did I say months? Woops. It is qrtrs.
Two months isn’t even enough time for the government to screw something up.
“Did I say months? Woops. It is qrtrs.”
Nope, My bad. I’m the duffuss
But job growth come out monthly?
“But job growth come out monthly?”
As does unemployment, GDP etc etc….
“Two months isn’t even enough time for the government to screw something up.”
The government? You mean the market? You mean wallstreet?
Wall street looks like a den of beggers. They want to reap it when its good and a bailout when its bad.
“They want to reap it when its good and a bailout when its bad.”
Human nature.
Can you imagine though how bad it would be for the little guy(the consumer) if the banking system crashed ala 1929? The bailout of the industry IS a bailout of the consumer. But a few EXECS should get fried ala skilling, fastow and Ley.
“But a few EXECS should get fried ala skilling, fastow and Ley.”
Deep fried with beer batter.
“As does unemployment, GDP etc etc….”
Keep a monthly eye on these reports to figure out If we have negative growth before the 1/4ly reports come out? Or is it not that simple?
Unless you’re an “average black guy” then its “fife cents”
“Keep a monthly eye on these reports to figure out If we have negative growth before the 1/4ly reports come out?”
Its the QTRly GDP growth that determines the recession. You could potentially do it that way if you had REALLY good acurate data. Sometimes they go back after the fact and readjust the numbers for monthly GDP reports if new info comes out and they realize the numbers were off.
“Unless you’re an “average black guy” then its “fife cents””
Nope. It would be “FiDDy Cent” with a D.
Mr. stevek, I am aware of where Europe is and what constitutes America. Yes, I think of you as a blog friend. You are the nicest fascist I know. Actually, the only pure, 100% fascist I know.
The Fitna film that impressed you so much was a collection of old clips, most of which have been on You Tube. The offensive part was tying this nonsensical patchwork to the Qur’an and insulting Muslim people. The demeaning caricatures in the film furthered the offensiveness. It is a hate film, directed at Islam and at Muslim people. I understand why you like it.
Sorry Mr. stevek, but my anticipated conversion to Islam took a detour into limbo, before your jack boots arrived on the scene. You can’t take any credit. Mr. dare2 and Mr G, are familiar with the circumstances regarding said detour.
Next time I see Irv, I will let him know he is my “imaginary friend”. I will try to get Irv to come on the blog. He is great at kicking fascist butt.
Does the media quote Amy Klobuchar because it thinks she’s impressive or to report to the taxpayers how dumb she sounds?
“Klobuchar said her neutrality had placed her “within Barack and a hard place — and I chose Barack.”"
Another Obama groupie? Or political ditz?
“Another Obama groupie? Or political ditz?”
And if she had choosen Hilary? Is it the stupid attempt at humor you’re commenting on?
“within Barack and a hard place — and I chose Barack.””
Is she referring to Hillary’s thighs as being the hard place?
Cottage cheese is hard?
“Can you imagine though how bad it would be for the little guy(the consumer) if the banking system crashed ala 1929? The bailout of the industry IS a bailout of the consumer.”
Talk on the talking heads sunday morning news was of bailing out the home buyers next. Would that also be warrented.
“Would that also be warrented.”
We might as well go all the way now. Whats the difference?
Le8, it is very upsetting to me that i sense hostility. after all of my efforts toward bringing people together, i would not have expected this attitude from you.
but fear not, i have decided to take the high road and retain warm feelings toward you. for you are the best friend i have.
and i also apologize to your imaginary friends.
Gay Marriage
“Victory is good. Pacifism is bad.”
-D2
Just a guess but he probably doesnt have a WWJD bracelet or one of those neato fish stickers on his car bumper.
i must admit le, you have given me inspiration. it is time to begin my campaign to become absolute leader.
i have given some thought as to who will be allowed to be in my administration. so far, i will be calling on d2 to be my reich .. i mean homeland security advisor, and builder of the camps. i will appoint 4blahs to the UN. it just seems fitting somehow. and you le8 will be my minister in charge of slurpie production. any strong country needs a steady supply of slurpies to quench the national thirst.
this is just the beginning, i will make more appointments soon.
“Look, I got two daughters–9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby. I don’t want them punished with an STD at age 16.”
“He’s talking about abortion.
Hey, I’m not usually one to nit pick, but I thought this was an odd way to state his pro-choice view.”
Is he? You need more context than that to figure out what he’s actually saying. How can you be so sure he’s talking about abortion?
Hey jcf817..Mr Warming..Mr Climate Change..The Big Bulber..
How does that earth getting warming fairy tale go again.
“How does that earth getting warming fairy tale go again.”
The record high in Minnescrotum was 81° F set in 1968. The record low was -9° F set in 1969. GW started in 1968 and was cancelled due to extreme low temperatures in 1969?
Hey jcf817 I just had a chat with a Robin in my backyard. He’s not buyin’ it!
GAS, surely by now you know the Global Warming Theory: “If the weather fits it’s GW, it it doesn’t fit it’s just weather!” And: “Since we can’t defend GW, let’s call it Climate Change!”
Plus you have to consider its really April 1. at 11:31 am..
See?
Mr. stevek, Hostility? Why would you think such a thing, mein Fuhrer?
Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
If you can’t get your arms around the fact that its really April 1 today, then I don’t know whats left to argue about.
Mr. stevek, Sorry, if you are offended about my interpretation of your political beliefs, but I have to call a swastika a swastika.
“If you can’t get your arms around the fact that its really April 1 today, then I don’t know whats left to argue about.”
I cant get my arms around that. You know why? ITS MARCH 31st!!!!
“GAS, surely by now you know the Global Warming Theory:”
I know the theories, the science, the bulb mercury content and how to set up a hazmat tent for cleanup. I just don’t know what to call it for sure.
And don’t call me Shirly.
A_G
Ya know whats comming don’t ya? The spring thaw. The spring downstream flooding.
The meltdown that will be blamed on GW.
Muaahahahahahaha
“I cant get my arms around that. You know why? ITS MARCH 31st!!!!”
Listen Pal it was a leap year..god! They should have said “screw that leap year BS” then we could Christmas in the summer.
Change things up every couple thousand of years….PAL
I’m an anti-leap year Nutjob!
“Mr. stevek, Sorry, if you are offended about my interpretation of your political beliefs, but I have to call a swastika a swastika.”
and that is your god given right dear friend. here, in america we have the ability to question political and religious beliefs without getting our heads cut off or stoned to death or bombed.
and even though you had the audacity to question any of my beliefs, you didnt mind if you “offended” me and you didnt work hard enough to “understand” me, i didnt even call you a hater. i guess its because im not a member of one of the “special class” of people where critical inquiry is deemed hate. oh well. see how it can work le ?? we can agree to disagree about certain things and nobody needs to be blown up !!!
“and even though you had the audacity to question any of my beliefs”
You’ve got to be the most pompus @ss Ive ever come across?
Im never wrong!!! WHaaa!!!!
Dont question my beliefes!!! Whaaaa!!!
Get over yourself Stevie.
see how it can work le ?? we can agree to disagree about certain things and nobody needs to be blown up
Too bad current US foreign policy does incorporate those same ideals. Along with Israel and the Brits, the US has been blowing up quite a few innocent people.
“Listen Pal it was a leap year..god! They should have said “screw that leap year BS” then we could Christmas in the summer.”
Awwwww Tiny. They messed up your birthday. Well happy birthday one day early.
Your wrong Mark on this March 31ist thing. I can tell you that right now. If you want to believe its really March 31 then fine. But listen! To ignore the fact that a day was added to this year and not count it is just moronic.
Why did the start the baseball season today then smart boy. Baseball starts on April 1….one…April first. Not March 31.
“A_G
Ya know whats comming don’t ya? The spring thaw. The spring downstream flooding.
The meltdown that will be blamed on GW.”
Yes, I’m preparing myself for it. Darwin knows we’ve never had a spring melt before!
Tiny, will tomorrow be March 32nd?
“You’ve got to be the most pompus @ss Ive ever come across?”
Ive ever Cum across?
“To ignore the fact that a day was added to this year and not count it is just moronic.”
Thats what you’re doing buddy. A day WAS added and you’re NOT counting it. So YOU are the moron, not me.
Ny the way the baseball season started about a week ago in Tokyo, which is stupid but for a different reason.
“Tiny, will tomorrow be March 32nd?”
April 2nd Punk,Darwin !
Anyone see Pres. Bush get booed throwing out the first pitch during the first game ever played in the Nats. new stadium. It was PRICELESS. The guy is such a good president that he gets booed in Washington. I LOVE baseball. Only at the ballpark can you get away with booing the president.
“Along with Israel and the Brits, the US has been blowing up quite a few innocent people.”
Leland, You can also put it this way -
Along with Israel and the Brits, the US has been blowing up quite a few Human Sheilds.
“Too bad current US foreign policy does incorporate those same ideals. Along with Israel and the Brits, the US has been blowing up quite a few innocent people. ”
see le, thats just another reason to support my quest to be the supreme leader. ill be sure to bomb only the guilty ones.
“You’ve got to be the most pompus @ss Ive ever come across?
Im never wrong!!! WHaaa!!!!
Dont question my beliefes!!! Whaaaa!!!
Get over yourself Stevie. ”
am i sensing more hostility markie ?? and why the “?” at the end of the second sentence. please remove it so its a declarative statement instead of a question plz. give credit where credit is due.
dont worry, ill still appoint you to the UN. nothing like 4 more blahs to join the party.
“Get over yourself Stevie.”
ill try for you markie, but its hard when im so much in love with myself. i was truly blessed by god, with my good looks, sparkling personality, sheer genius. its hard to believe god put so much greatness in one package.
Great Bitain, Israel, USA = The Triad of Evil.
Hopefully the US can begin extracting itself from the Triad after the next election.
By the way, McCain = Deeper quagmire, more evil.
“Anyone see Pres. Bush get booed throwing out the first pitch during the first game ever played in the Nats. new stadium.”
Now that would have been the day to have Rosanne Barr sing the National Anthem.
Mark the greatest.
Summer 2003 me and “boy wonder” got the first row left field bleachers in Wriggle. Cubs vs. Giants.
Barry Bonds five feet away. Those guys razzed him every minute of every pitch for 9 innings. If he bent down they told him to stand up and visa versa. If he looked at his glove, it be “What you lookin’ at your clove for Barry” on and on and on. Those guys where drunnnnnnnnnnnnnnk
“am i sensing more hostility markie ?? and why the “?” at the end of the second sentence.”
No hostility, just shock? Im stunned?
“By the way, McCain = Deeper quagmire, more evil.”
McCain = Bombing the playing field level.
“Deeper quagmire”.
Family Guy?
“Deeper quagmire, more evil”
GO whats goin’ on over there?
To clarify: The US is inherently good and has been since its inception, unfortunately the White House has been hijacked, and has been taken over to the dark side. Not to worry, we will get her back.
Tiny,
Summer of ‘89 I saw Andre “The Hawk” Dawson and Ryny Sandberg hit back to back homers of Smoltz at Wrigley.
I also once saw some drunk fans get into a fight with the bullpen catcher when the reached over and stole his helmet. They also were drunk.
“Deeper quagmire, more evil”
What are Ya writin’ a Country Western song over there GO?
We must say good-bye
There’s no need for you to cry
It’s better that I tell you this tonight
Our affair has been quite heated
You thought I was what you needed
But the time has come, my darlin’
To set things right, ’cause
I’ll be harder than yer husband
To get along with
Harder than yer husband every night
Harder than yer husband
Harder than yer husband
An’ I don’t want our love affair
To end with a fight.
Zappa - Harder than your husband
“ill try for you markie, but its hard when im so much in love with myself. i was truly blessed by god, with my good looks, sparkling personality, sheer genius. its hard to believe god put so much greatness in one package”
Tick, tick, tick, tick……….I feel sorry for whoever is around when this guy goes off.
Obama bowls for Pennsylvania voters
Now I’m tellin’ Ya right now that’s not “typical” right there at all.
Picture looks really odd. I can honest say in all my years at “the lanes”…..
By the way Tiny, I plan on doing the same thing to Torri Hunter tonite. He needs to be booed for his pathetic display last night on the news.
“I love the Twins. They are my family. This is still home blah, blah, blah….”
So why did you decide to leave then? Take the money I dont care, but dont tell me how much you love it here and how this is still home.
Lets be honest folks you see a black guy walking behind with a bowling bag…oh man……
Obama bowls for Pennsylvania voters
They didn’t have shoeeeeeees big enough.
Tiny,
See lelands 1:20 post.
Mr stevek, I have the answer for your irrational fears and your attempts at hyper inflating your ego: A psychologist. Do it before you hurt yourself or an innocent person. I can hear you ticking.
“Do it before you hurt yourself or an innocent person. I can hear you ticking.”
Leland,
Are you sure thats not your vest?
Mr. G is funny.
Mr. G, I want to know, how you know, Mrs. Clinton has cottage cheese thighs?
“Mr. G, I want to know, how you know, Mrs. Clinton has cottage cheese thighs?”
Welllllllll……She’s built like my sisters…….minus the mustache…..and when I see her she makes me break out in song——-
Chubby chin, chubby cheeks, chubby thighs,
you have been with TOO MANY GUYS.
and i do not like your cottage cheese thighs,
besides, you have been with two many guys.
and i do not like your poopoo thighs,
besides, you have been with two many guys
you need to stop it, stop it, stop
“Is he? You need more context than that to figure out what he’s actually saying. How can you be so sure he’s talking about abortion?”
You need more context? Just like McCain and the “100 years” in Iraq thing the liberals have taken out of context and run with?
That and the sloshing sound she makes when she walks.
I have in the past enjoyed cottage cheese with a little pineapple on top.
I wonder if Mrs. Clinton could break a pineapple between her thighs.
In the movies, they use stunt wood chairs to break over a guys head, like in a western barroom fight.
I think Mrs. Clinton would need a stunt pineapple to break between her thighs.
“I think Mrs. Clinton would need a stunt pineapple to break between her thighs.”
She could most likly crush a car between her thighs. A stunt car. A Yugo.
Now, I am wondering about Bill’s head.
Mr. G, Do you think she would need a stunt Bill’s head?
“Mr. G, Do you think she would need a stunt Bill’s head?”
Leland,
I think whether or not she gave Bill head is between them.
“I wonder if Mrs. Clinton could break a pineapple between her thighs.”
My guess is she could pop a coconut!!
And don’t worry about Bill’s head, I don’t think it’s been anywhere near there! Ishhhhhhhh.
“And don’t worry about Bill’s head, I don’t think it’s been anywhere near there! Ishhhhhhhh”
Cottage cheese and fish. urk
ill be putting out a new book soon. its called “the audacity of hate”, named after one of my pastor’s sermons. he was my spiritual guide and mentor for a great number of years. in fact , he lead my to christianity and helped shape most of the world view i hold today.
i hope to see you all at the book signing.
“i hope to see you all at the book signing”
Stevekompf
“McCain = Bombing the playing field level.”
As a Lutheran, G.S.A.H.A, I would very much like to see your neighborhood bombed by fighter planes, you sick bastar d.
BM
As a German Irish Catholic I would like to see you executed for treason, you anti-American leper.
BM,
Hows that white guilt going for you?
You knoe BM, for a person wanting peace and equality for all people, you sure are a hypocrite.
BM,
Can you go back to signing your posts. Sometimes I don’t know if its really you unless you sign it. That and butt plug your blog.
Say what ever happened to your blog? FCC shut you down for “Lonely Stupidity”.
I don’t want peace and equality for adults who flippantly advocate violence; these people are beyond redemption.
“I don’t want peace and equality for adults who flippantly advocate violence; these people are beyond redemption.”
You mean people who say things like this?:
“G.S.A.H.A, I would very much like to see your neighborhood bombed by fighter planes, you sick bastar d.”
Man you are a total hypocrite. What a loser. Hows that punk @ss blog of yours doing?
“I don’t want peace and equality for adults who flippantly advocate violence; these people are beyond redemption.”
So your saying you approve of the way we are dealing with the muslim terrorists?
G.S.A.H.A. advocated dropping bombs on people. Can’t he take his own medicine? Is it not a two-way street?
“G.S.A.H.A. advocated dropping bombs on people. Can’t he take his own medicine? Is it not a two-way street?”
Hey A-hole. I’m right here. I can heaaaaaar yooooooooou.
I visited Egypt once; the Muslims there treated me much better than my fellow Minnesotans do on this board.
“I visited Egypt once; the Muslims there treated me much better than my fellow Minnesotans do on this board.”
OK I agree they most likely did. They don’t speak english.
But do you agree that we should treat the extreamists as the tret us?
I think you guys are retrograde reprobates.
“OK I agree they most likely did. They don’t speak english.”
In fact, they did. And they were most gracious and enlightened, unlike you guys.
Tiny grabs BM by his blog collar and while leading him out of the blog says;
“Listen BM you little cyber snot noised punk, don’t come back till Yez get that chip off your shoulder”
“G.S.A.H.A. advocated dropping bombs on people.”
That’s silly. Everyone know you can get a lot more of them if you set the bombs to airburst.
Dropping them ON people is a waste of perfectly good high explosive.
This is a really sad story, but worth reading.. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/us/31war.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th&adxnnlx=1207000620-0rFElwFVGTAgszx1wYBehg
“Listen BM you little cyber snot noised punk, don’t come back till Yez get that chip off your shoulder.”
Thanks, Minnesota Nice.
I see why you’re so intent on preserving your culture from the threats you perceive.
It’s so erudite, so gentle, so evolved, so welcoming.
Truly a shining example unto the world. A real gem.
A Lutheran like me would be lost without such enlightenment and encompassing warmth.
BM hey go into the backyard of your parents 1.5 million dollar home in Eden Prairie and make a “Dick Cheney” snowman.
Or at the end of the driveway…after dark…while the plows are out.
They said on the nightly news that bowling really isn’t Obamas thing.
Now basketball!
“Stevekompf”
Too funny, Mr. 4blahs.
“DJ says:
March 31st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
This is a really sad story, but worth reading.. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/us/31war.html
pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th&adxnnlx=1207000620-0rFElwFVGTAgszx1wYBehg”
Well, that’s war. That’s what you guys desire. Deal with the consequences.
“DJ says:
March 31st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
This is a really sad story, but worth reading..”
Well, that’s war. You guys love war. So suck it up and deal.
““Stevekompf”
Too funny, Mr. 4blahs
LOL thatll be the title for my 2nd book.. dont work blahs, ill give you credit in the preface
Or are you blubbering babies and defeatists? Do not back down now and dishonor our fallen, maimed and mentally ruined heroes! Freedom isn’t free!! And this boy is just a small part of the cost!!!!
“Obama bowls for Pennsylvania voters
They didn’t have shoeeeeeees big enough.”
Barack Obama-
Half Honky, All Donkey.
BM,
In your mind, did the United States ever fight in a war which was worth the cost? If so, which ones?
somewhere in the bowels of minnesota sits a pimply faced youth, living in his mommy’s basement raging against the injustices of the world. armed with one-half of a clue and a prescription for prozac he spends his time blogging, railing against neo-cons and pretty much everything else, in a don quixote kind of way. a little bit of a sad existence to be sure, but im sure his mommy loves him.
Michael Blaine aka BM,
I got it, i got it. I got something you can relate to.
The best way to read your posts is with the voice of Plankton from Sponge Bob Square Pants. You know, the little green guy thats always tying to steal Mr Crab’s Crabby Burger recipe at the Crusty Crab Resturant. Reading your posts this way makes you come accross as very authoritative.
OK. Your right. At 12 years old you might be a little bit old for Sponge Bob.
Anyhoo, your still an idiot craving attention. Hows that upper lip doin?
Hey I’m going to ease up a bit. After all The M’er might be cleaning my bedpan someday.
From the article DJ cites above:
‘A tour in Afghanistan from March to September 2004 introduced Mr. Hall to war. He went to Iraq next and on June 14, 2005, during a foot patrol in Anbar Province, an improvised explosive device blew up a few feet from him, changing his life forever. His parents described a brutal recovery at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., with as many as 20 operations. And when he returned home to Jeffersonville, Ind., a few months later, it was clear that his mind was wounded too.
“He didn’t really sleep,” said his mother, Becky Hall. “He woke up screaming. He kept a pistol under his pillow because he was afraid.”’
I’m sure the other pro-war commenters here - along with self-proclaimed hero Hegseth - will agree with me that the above, while regrettable, at the end of the day is inconsequential when we consider the magnitude of the threat we face.
Islamo-fascists want to destroy us all, and we will stand united while we continue to serve up our youth for battle.
That some die is just a hard fact. That’s war, and freedom isn’t free. We should not look back, we should not vacillate, as we carry the crusade forward. To do otherwise would only embolden the enemy, who we must fight either over there or here at home.
It’s a matter of the very survivial of Western Civilization. So if some our nation’s kids, our bravest and finest, end up physically and emotionally shattered in the effort, well - we never said this effort would be easy.
And if only the Cavalcade of Self-Proclaimed Heroes could enter our public schools to tell our kids this fact: that sometimes we must make the ultimate sacrifice, whether by death in Mesopatamia or by confinement at home in a mental insitution or homeless shelter.
If only our kids could know - through the wise and sage words of the 27-year-old self-promoter Hegseth and his Calvacade of Self-Proclaimed Heroes - that this is the finest thing to which they could ever aspire: To die a premature and painful death at taxpayer expense, or at a bare minimum slowly lose their minds once the military has used them up.
If only our kids could know that this is the most that we the American nation could ever wish upon them.
Never mind that there were no WMD, that there is no democracy, that the oil still does not flow. Never mind that the country teeters on the brink of financial collapse, buried under mountains of debt. Never mind all that.
Because a violent and early death, or a brush with it that leaves one an emotional shambles, proves beyond all doubt that one is a real patriot and worthy of worship and emulation by one’s fellow citizens.
The kids must hear this inspiring message, because as the soldiers die or go on “medical leave” we will need replacements. And our old men in Washington must continue to send the young to the sacrifice as a testimony to our national greatness, and proof of our superiority vis-a-vis our many terrible and implacable enemies.
May The Judeo-Christian God Bless Us All In Our Holy And Noble Efforts!
P.S. Freedom Is Not Free; Indeed, The Higher The Price The Sweeter It Gets
BM,
You remind me of my dog. No matter how many times I swat her on the nose with the marketplace section of my wall street journal I just cant keep her out of the cat box.
Boy that Carlos Gomez is fast!!
Kiss my @ss Torii Hunter!!
If only our kids could know - through the wise and sage words of the 27-year-old self-promoter Hegseth and his Calvacade of Self-Proclaimed Heroes - that this is the finest thing to which they could ever aspire: To die a premature and painful death at taxpayer expense, or at a bare minimum slowly lose their minds once the military has used them up.
I had a great time at the baseball game tonight. The Dome was great, protecting us from the snowstorm, one of the surest signs of spring we’ve seen this year. You see…I, for one, know that the daily fluctuations of the weather don’t tell anyone anything about whether the planet is warming or not.
Obama’s “punishment” statement:
I have never, to my knowledge, repeated McCain’s quote about a “100-year war”, so you can dispense with that argument. I still think that Obama’s quote needs more context to be understood. Just as I don’t know what McCain was actually discussing, I don’t know what Obama was discussing, either.
Yep now Angels fans can say; ” Why does he keep swinging at that sh^t”
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