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Mr. Keillor’s Unneighborly Ways

January 17th, 2008 – 8:08 AM

This week brings news that Garrison Keillor, the folksy host of “A Prairie Home Companion,” just lobbed a lawsuit over his neighbor’s fence. Keillor claims that “light and air” — not to mention his view of “open space and beyond” — will be obstructed by his neighbor’s 1,900 foot addition to an existing 2,124 foot home, reports the Star Tribune. Keillor’s house is a spacious 5,168 finished square feet, with an assessed value of $1.2 million.

Neighbor Paul Olson isn’t amused by the incoming legal volleys from Keillor’s castle. Compared to his house, he told the New York Times, Keillor’s mansion is like “an elephant towering over a rabbit.” The new addition, he said, will be even lower than the existing house that he shares with his fiancé, Lori Anderson.

Olson described the suit as “unneighborly.” He would clearly have preferred a Lake Wobegon-style chat about the problem over coffee before Keillor unleashed his legal firepower.

According to the Times:

“The last thing we want is an ugly lawsuit with our neighbors,’ Mr. Olson wrote in [a] note, which he said he slipped under Mr. Keillor’s door. “The only winners in that scenario are the lawyers and the gossips.’ “Mr. Olson shrugged off Mr. Keillor’s complaints. “Give me a break,’ he said, pointing to a homely garage near both properties that Mr. Keillor might be unable to see if the addition was completed. “That’s the ugliest garage in St. Paul. Goodness, Garrison.’

Ms. Anderson, Olson’s housemate, is clearly mystified that Keillor places such value on “light and air.” The Keillor drapes are always closed, she told the Times.

Keillor’s side of the dispute took a severe beating in an informal Star Tribune online poll, which invited readers to rate the suit’s likely outcome. As of this writing, 86.5 percent of the 5692 total votes predicted Olson/Anderson would prevail.

True, many respondents may not have a firm grasp of the law, but I’d definitely recommend that Keillor not opt for a jury trial. A panel of average citizens might give him a legal trouncing he’d never forget.

Why such an uproar against the man with such a populist message?

The appeal of Keillor’s Lake Wobegon myth-making is that it is not all myth. We laugh at the town’s residents’ simple ways, but we view them as much more than clownish caricatures. Their good-heartedness touches the best in us, and it reaches back into our own pasts. Lake Wobegon tales echo our grandparents’ stories about old-fashioned neighborliness “ about the time long ago when you had to look out for the guy down the block if you both wanted to get by.

Neighbors had their arguments, certainly. But they often patched these up and went on helping each other out. A legal jihad against your neighbor was out of the question.

This week’s events seem to suggest that Keillor never really believed in the goodness at the heart of those Lake Wobegon stories. It was all a myth.

In real life, we just close the shutters, lock the doors and call the lawyers.

213 Responses to "Mr. Keillor’s Unneighborly Ways"

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:17 am

I’ve always known this guy was a jerk. All you Minneapolis Fruitcakes thinkin’ this guys the greatest thing in the world, then he goes to places like New York and Californian and Mocks us.

Glad to see more people jumping on the “Garrison Keillors a phony” Tiny bandwagon !!!

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:20 am

Tiny F.Y.I.

By the way I say a “Jim and Jane” getting’ priced out of their home story yesterday. Very Heartbreaking. Their payments where 1,500 a month now they are looking at almost double that. I felt really sorry for them until I SAW THE POOL !!!!

Now listen you may think Tinys a Media Hating Nutcase..but come on ! Is no one bright enough in the newsroom to say “Hey wait a second they have a pool”

TJ says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:24 am

Is this really newsworthy?

dazzleman says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:24 am

I hate to admit it, but I used to enjoy Garrison Keillor. He was a great storyteller, and he had some good stories to tell. Then he started writing for the Trib every Sunday, and his writing turned into the rant of a freshman in college–all heart and no reason. He lost me when he said Wyoming shouldn’t have it’s two senate seats and big cities like New York and Los Angeles should have more. Garrison–that’s why we have the House. That’s the one that reflects population.

Anyway, this lawsuit is ridiculous. It reminds me of Ted Kennedy getting in a snit because some people wanted to put wind turbines up in Martha’s Vineyard.

A few other things:
-“an elephant towering over a rabbit.” I think that Olson should get extra credit since he used a simile to make fun of a “writer.”
-Keillor’s “Good Poems” book he edited is not good at all. If you want good poetry, read “What Work Is” by Levine, “The Rose” by Lee, or “Scrambled Eggs and Whiskey” by Caruth

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:34 am

It seems hard to make a “light and air are important to me” argument when you build a 5,000+ sq. ft. McMansion on a typical small city lot. Generally, people who live in big cities don’t live there expecting lots of light and air…that’s why they have a place called “the country”.

TJ says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:37 am

This is the same deal as the people in Edina wanting mansions next door to the rambler.

TJ says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:38 am

GK just wants to jump on the band wagon and make sure his name is in print and on TV and hopes that everyone will remember him.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:43 am

“The last thing we want is an ugly lawsuit with our neighbors,’ Mr. Olson wrote in [a] note, which he said he slipped under Mr. Keillor’s door. ‘The only winners in that scenario are the lawyers and the gossips.’”

Olson sounds like a real winner. Hey Olson, did ya pound on the door and run like a giggling fool after slipping the note under the door. Thats not a very Lake Wobegon-style chat about the problem. Then you run right to the gossip media.

Average_Guy says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:46 am

Just how does someone building next to you cut off your air? Messing up your view I can see but air? They must also be building a bubble all around Keillor’s house! He’s the typical “I got mine, you can’t have yours” limousine liberal.
Does anyone else wonder how someone from Minnesota talks like he does? He doesn’t sound like us at all.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:47 am

“This week’s events seem to suggest that Keillor never really believed in the goodness at the heart of those Lake Wobegon stories. It was all a myth.”

A myth? Its a story. Make beleive. As in not real life.
Its a business. Money Maker. A job. Why should we expect him to live his life like make beleive. Do we expect everyone in theater to take their charactors home with them.
Hello, Hannibal Lector.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:52 am

People sue neighbors all the time. Thats why they have neighborhood meetings and homeowners associations. Why does Olson get to complain in the media? Take it to the county or city agencies.

Average_Guy says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:56 am

“Why does Olson get to complain in the media?” Because Keillor’s a public figure that’s why. Because he writes stories, make believes, he has a business, he’s a money maker, that makes him a public figure. It’s a story, who would care if Olson’s neighbor was you?

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:01 am

I dont like GK because he is a mouth breather. I hate that.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:03 am

Click and Clack, now there are some funny guys.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:07 am

“I dont like GK because he is a mouth breather. I hate that.”

Meaning its hard to breath with your nose up in the air?

TJ says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:11 am

Heavy nose breathers are just as annoying.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:13 am

“People sue neighbors all the time. Thats why they have neighborhood meetings and homeowners associations. Why does Olson get to complain in the media? Take it to the county or city agencies.”

Gezzz..Sound upset there GO. I guess you must spend your Saturday nights cuddled up next to fire listening to “Prairie Home Companion” and slammin’ down a 12-pack of Bud.

Still a Bud guy?

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:20 am

I also dont like him because there are only so many jokes about ‘hot dish’ that you can listen to before you want to eat a bullet.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:24 am

Hey I’ll be right back guys. I gots to go get kicked out of the “Tech Disappearing Polar Bear Seminar”

Tinys going to stand in the back and yell BS at the end of every sentence, just like the Fruitcakes do.

Here we go…………….

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:26 am

Sorry, I can’t work “funny” & “NPR” into the same sentence! (Except for Alec Baldwin and his Schweaty products)

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:35 am

Gypsy,

Car Talk is funny.

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:40 am

4, I’ve listened to a few minutes of it on a couple of occasions,…..I gotta disagree with ya on that one.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am

Not enough poop and peni5 jokes for you?

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:43 am

Also a few minutes probably isnt enough. You need to listen to it for a few shows to understand the on going jokes and bits. Its not the funniest stuff Ive heard but its still funny.

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:14 am

No, 4, a Republican terrorist….now THAT’S funny!!

“A former congressman and delegate to the United Nations was indicted on charges of working for an alleged terrorist fundraising ring that sent more than $130,000 to an al-Qaida supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan.

Mark Deli Siljander, a Michigan Republican when he was in the House, was charged Wednesday with money laundering, conspiracy and obstructing justice for allegedly lying about being hired to lobby senators on behalf of an Islamic charity that authorities said was secretly sending funds to terrorists.”

dazzleman says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:16 am

4blahs–I got into car talk listening to it with my dad while we worked on his old chevy in the garage on Sunday mornings. Brilliant.

Keillor was a novelty. His time is passing. He is now just a bitter old man who realizes that he hasn’t really changed anything he thought his ego could.

figh44 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:17 am

Keillor’s hard edge actually dates back several years ago to when he became a strident partisan, and now campaigns agressively for Democrats. He was openly appalled at the election of Sen. Coleman and wrote a grindingly negative piece about him.

figh44 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:20 am

Of course, everyone is entitled to a political opinion, and a hard-edged one at that. Keillor’s grim trashing of political opponents, though, struck a nerve becaus of the contrast with his folksy, friendly ways when hosting his show.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:35 am

“folksy, friendly ways when hosting his show.”

“folksy, Phony, fake friendly ways when hosting his show.”

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:46 am

“Gezzz..Sound upset there GO”

Tiny
A little overboard? Soooo Sorry. Was waiting for the coffee to brew.
Never listened to GK’s show.

Still like Bud, vodka, Micro brews, Cough medicine and Nyquil.

Former Carrier says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:51 am

Hi, all,

One of my sisters gave me a copy of Lake Wobegon Days as a Christmas present some years ago. I never finished it; the reason was pure jealousy at his ability as a storyteller. That I have to give him; this business kind of makes me glad he doesn’t live on my block.

figh44 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:54 am

FC: The neighborly chemistry on your block sounds a bit more accomodating than that in Keillor’s neck of the woods.

noless says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:11 am

I’m a big fan of GK’s Lake Wobegon books. But seriously, a lawsuit because someone is going to block your view? If you’ve seen the picture of GK’s house you’ll know that Olson is right - it is like “an elephant towering over a rabbit”. Yet you don’t see Olson complaining about GK blocking his view of “light and air”. What a joke. Besides, construction has already started. GK should have said something to his lovely neighbors months ago. Given GK’s Democratic stance, it shows perfectly what his party thinks - that government, not we, should solve our problems.

Former Carrier says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:17 am

Hi, all,

Thanks, figh44. One of the reasons we don’t do lawsuits here is that none of us can afford them. Another reason is that we don’t trust lawyers. :-)

ttepley says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:28 am

Hey G.S.A.H.A…you haven’t figured out yet that only Tiny can whine and rant like a spoiled four-year-old on this board…

figh44 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:29 am

noless and FC: That’s right on the mark. I’ve rarely seen a real winner in lawsuits. Both sides get soaked for legal fees. The issue is usually who’s the biggest loser.

godhatesshrimp says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:29 am

Garrison is a charlatan on many fronts.

I doubt this is comparable to the situation in Edina. I’m guessing the lots in Ramsey Hill are much larger.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:30 am

The point of this article is this; most celebrities are Jerks. Oh except Eric Gislason I grew up and played hockey with him, now there’s a genuinely nice guy.

Patrick Leahy will be endorsing Obama…See I think allot of Dems don’t want the Clintons bossing them around again. I think that’s what we are seeing.

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:30 am

The only reason this lawsuit got any publicity is because it involves a celebrity. I agree with TJ’s observation that this is not newsworthy.

Doesn’t St. Paul, like most cities, require permits for the kind of work Anderson and Olson are having done to their home? Assuming the necessary permits have been granted, no one has broken any law, making Keillor unlikely to prevail. It must be nice to have money lying around to spend on frivolous lawsuits. I predict that the courts will slap this one down quickly.

Katherine, is there any way to complain about that stupid “slow down, cowboy” message? This is my first post in two days!

figh44 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:34 am

The other thing is that nobody seems to recover a decent relationship after a lawsuit. Better to have a good all-out backyard shouting match. It’s explosive, but it’s usually over after a short while. Sometimes it stays bad, but the aftermath of a lawsuit is always bad.

TJ says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:35 am

Yes. It sounds like Garrison is bored and has nothing better to do than make someone miserable or maybe he is looking for a new story in all of this.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:35 am

“Hey G.S.A.H.A…you haven’t figured out yet that only Tiny can whine and rant like a spoiled four-year-old on this board…”

I’m bending over ttepley …..pucker those lips up………………….

But that’s it. Your not even getting’ to first base after that Pal.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:36 am

“Keillor was a novelty. His time is passing.”

Im not sure how many novelty’s last over 2 decades.

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:37 am

EBF, it depends on your age….in some cases, more than once every 3 days deserves a “slow down” message.

GodHates, from the photo it doesn’t look like the lots are any larger than typical city lots.

Noless, if you’re gonna attribute GK’s attitudes to all Dems, then (see my 10:14 post) I’m gonna say all Reps are terrorists.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:38 am

“Katherine, is there any way to complain about that stupid “slow down, cowboy” message? This is my first post in two days!”

Really and shouldn’t it be “Cowperson”

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:39 am

Besides EBF, if you were in a hetero marriage, trying “cdertain things” more than once a week will get you a “slow down cowboy” warning!

Evil Baby Fauvel says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:41 am

EBF, it depends on your age….in some cases, more than once every 3 days deserves a “slow down” message.

Well, I’m not that old!

Besides EBF, if you were in a hetero marriage, trying “cdertain things” more than once a week will get you a “slow down cowboy” warning!

Another reason I’m glad I’m gay….

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:43 am

Funny GypsyBiker when I see your posts I’m goin’ attribute it to; An Imbecile being an Imbecile…….

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:46 am

“Still like Bud, vodka, Micro brews, Cough medicine and Nyquil.”

Ah, NyQuil. Here is a Dennis Leary bit on the green concoction that is priceless.

“I don’t do illegal drugs anymore. Now I just do the legal drugs. Tonight I’m on NyQuil and Sudafed. Let me tell you something, folks. Forget about cocaine and heroine. All you need is NyQuil and Sudafed. I’m telling you right now, I took the NyQuil five years ago. I just came out of the coma tonight before the f*$king show! Claus Vanbulo was standing over my bed going, “Denis, get up! There’s something the matter with Sunny! Hurry up!” I love NyQuil. Man, I love it! I love it. I love it. I love it. It’s the best thing sh:t ever invented. Isn’t it, huh? I love the name alone. NyQuil - Capitol N, small Y, big f*$king Q! I love that f*$king Q, don’t you!? What a great advertising idea! Put a huge f*$king Q on the box. They’ll get high and stare at it. “The Q is talking to me! The Q is talking to me!”

I love NyQuil, man. Because NyQuil has never changed, man. It’s never changed. All the other medicines are doing that inner-child thing. “we know that there’s a small child inside of you, so now we have grape and cherry and orange flavor.” Not NyQuil! They still have the original green death f*$king flavor! You know why!? Because it doesn’t matter what it tastes like! It’s so strong you go, “*wheeze* Hey this stuff really tastes like..” Bang! Yer in the coma already! “What happened?” “He said tastes like and he went right into the coma, it was unbelievable!” We have reached the point where the over the counter drugs are actually stronger than anything you can buy on the street. It says on the back of the NyQuil box, on the back of the box it says, “May cause drowsiness.” It should say, “Don’t make any f*$king plans! Kiss your family and friends goodbye. Say hello to Klaus!” NyQuil, NyQuil, NyQuil, we love you! You giant f*$king Q!

NyQuil is the secret for all you twelve step recovery program people. Yes, all you AA people, NyQuil is the key! It’s the thirteenth f*$king step! You can drink it! It’s over the counter! Drink as much as you want. “Are you drunk?” “No! I have a cold. Same cold I’ve had for two years. I just can’t seem to shake it. I’m high as a kite and my teeth are green. Merry f*$king Christmas!”

Katherine says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:49 am

I apologize for the crazy cowboy message. I understood it had been fixed some time ago, but apparently not.

In the meantime, go to it cowpersons.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 11:59 am

ttepley,
Once in awhile I lose myself in time and space. Bizarro world is great but “Tiny Bizarro world”. Thanks for understanding

mthalo says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

“Really and shouldn’t it be “Cowperson””

Bovine-American

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

“Really and shouldn’t it be “Cowperson””

Cowpuncher

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

“Besides EBF, if you were in a hetero marriage, trying “cdertain things” more than once a week will get you a “slow down cowboy” warning!”

“Cowpoke”

ttepley says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

I knew you were a romantic, Tiny!

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:09 pm

Tiny, for the record I’ll point out (as always) you began the personal attack. Seriously, looking at the quality of your posts, you’re just not worth the effort.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

“Tiny, for the record I’ll point out (as always) you began the personal attack. Seriously, looking at the quality of your posts, you’re just not worth the effort.”

Gypsy, let me tell you a little story about the old ‘Brimn v Mark a’ battles of ‘yore. If you stop taking these things seriously, you begin to see the humor in it.

Mark a used to think he could change Brimn’s views on things and got p:ssed when he thought Brimn was getting beligerant. Then Mark a came to the conclusion that this whole blog thing is much funner if you can just laugh at all of it and spread as much BS as possible.

Except for you Newbiz, everything I say to you is on the Real.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

“Except for you Newbiz, everything I say to you is on the Real.”

Ahahahahhaah Zinger AHHAHAhahhahahhah

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:16 pm

I guess Tiny’s a lot like Garrison Keillor then…..I just don’t see the humor in either of them :)

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

In fact, I think Tiny=Garrison Keillor

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Now that’s name calling!!!!

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:20 pm

“I apologize for the crazy cowboy message. I understood it had been fixed some time ago, but apparently not.”

Let me guess, nobody said anything in the “cut costing” meeting at The Star when management suggested that the Janitorial staff take over the web development. Man, we have all been there!

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

GypsyBiker

I’m rubber and you’re glue, baby.

raskolnikov says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

I am an MPR listener but…

I’ve never found the guy funny.
His show bores me stiff and he is an instant channel changer. His voice is simply annoying and he’s always struck me as too ardent and self important.

Can’t handle listening to him at all.

If it is true- his house is a mcmansion- that’s just one more reason to avoid him.

Writer’s almenac for January 17, 2008:
It’s the day the GK myth crashed to earth.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

“I’m rubber and you’re glue, baby”

This is Tiny’s way of saying he wants to be friends. If you were in Kindergarten hed be throwing sand in your face.

My advice? Take the olive branch.

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

4, I think I hear what you’re saying. Little boys tease little girls when they have crush on them. I hear where you’re going, but please tell him I’m not “that way”.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

“suggested that the Janitorial staff take over the web development.”

Let me make this clear that wasn’t a shot at the “Janitorial Community”. I couldn’t build a dog house or fix a toilet. And frankly you wouldn’t want your I.T. department to be cleanin’ the cans either. That I can say with 99% certainty.

figh44 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Keillor puts Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid to shame with his partisan rants. In a magazine article a number of years ago he called Republicans “brownshirts in pinstripes.” The brownshirts were, of course, the Nazi thugs who made a name for themselves by violently breaking up meetings and shouting down opposition speakers. I know it’s the modern thing among many Democrats to loosely throw around Nazi labels, but Keillor was a pioneer in this effort.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Did anyone ever see the Seinfeld episode where that creepy guy took all those photos of Elaine and plastered them up on the walls of his Apt? I wonder what Figh44’s Apt looks like. Probably a few of those KK yearbook style head shots up on the walls.

figh44,

Which conservative would you say started the trend of calling liberals communists?

Michael Blaine says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

This blog — never of very high intellectual quality — has devolved into a tawdry gossip sheet.

The gratuitous slame on Keillor is inexcusable.

Keillor is a state and national treasure, and a superlatively gracious individual besides.

I once introduced myself to him on an airplane, and he was as affable as could be. Later, at the luggage carousel, he conversed good-naturedly with others as they recognized him and began to chat.

My advice to everyone who wants to take a shot at Garrison: Back Off. We Minnesotans owe him nothing but a debt of gratitude for understanding us and making us famous.

Michael Blaine
www.rudelystamped.blopgspot.com

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 12:55 pm

Ya know, If Hillary really wants to win this race she should have Bill locked up till it over. The more he opens his mouth the worse he looks.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

“Which conservative would you say started the trend of calling liberals communists?”

I’m thinkin’ it was the Romanov’s and that whole crowd there.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

Hello Bowel Movement or should I address you as Butt Munch.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

“I once introduced myself to him on an airplane”

And he looked at your mom and said

“Man.. Jesus Christ get that kid potty trained, Damn. Stewardess I’m not sittin’ next to that stinky brat!”

mthalo says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

To someone “not from here”, Kellior’s behavior is no surprise. It’s a classic demonstration of the
passive-aggressive Minnesota approach to dealing with any sort of anger or dissatisfaction.
A local that receives bad service will never complain to the person providing the service. To them, they’ll smile and say “thank you very much, nice job, I appreciate your help”, then moan and complain to everybody else about how terrible the service was.

I have never understood what it is about Minnesotans that makes it impossible for them to look someone in the eye, and tell them what they really feel. I wasn’t living in Minnesota very long before I became aware of this irritating dark side to Minnesota Nice. In fact, a native friend of mine once warned me that “Thank you very much” and “I really appreciate it” were Minnesotan for “Eff You”

Mr. Blaine, It was the Coen brothers and bad weather that made you famous.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

“Keillor is a state and national treasure, and a superlatively gracious individual besides.”

So is Governor Turnbuckle !!!!!

“Back Off. We Minnesotans owe him nothing but a debt of gratitude for understanding us and making us famous.”

debt of gratitude for going to New York and Hollywood parties while Mocking us all along the way.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

“This blog — never of very high intellectual quality.”

Michael, Don’t you mean “My blog”

The gratuitous slame on Keillor is inexcusable. That’s SLAM without the “e” doorknob but I digress.

Let’s see, neighbor comes over and says Garrison were going to add on to the house. Garrison makes no objection. Neighbor starts construction. Garrison calls his lawyer. Wow your right about one thing inexcusable!!

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

“Mr. Blaine, It was the Coen brothers and bad weather that made you famous.”

Yep. Fargo depicts the true minnesotahn much better than Kellior ever could.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

“passive-aggressive Minnesota approach to dealing with any sort of anger or dissatisfaction.”

Guys listen to mthalo. What that BEEP is that suppose to mean. What the BEEP.

Tinys Minnesota Nice, no ?

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

Michael, Don’t you mean “My blog”

YES

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

“Tinys Minnesota Nice, no ?”

What? Are ya a roadrunner now. Geeeezzzz

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

For “very high intellectual quality” where should I go?….Rudely Stamped?

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

“This blog — never of very high intellectual quality…”

Not since you got here. I can acutallu hear the brain cells die whenever your posts show up.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

For “very high intellectual quality” where should I go?….Rudely Stamped?

Only if you want to hear him talking to himself.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

“My advice to everyone who wants to take a shot at Garrison: Back Off. We Minnesotans owe him nothing but a debt of gratitude for understanding us and making us famous.”

Yep, Before about 1980 no one new there was the State of MN. Thanks GK.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

I once met Dino Cicerelli at a restaurant. He was really nice and signed a napkin for me. Later that year he was arrested for indecent exposure.

New flash genious. Its not what they do to the ‘Little People’ like you that they see once and then never again. A better indication of a persons charector is how they treat their neighbor whom they see day in and day out.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

I’m surprised BM even showed up during the daylight. He usually only does 2:00am “drive by’s”

TJ says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

I am praying the GK does NOT expose himself.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

GO,

Thats stupid F-ing teeneager put mayo all over my subway again. He probably went to EP.

mthalo says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

What really made Minnesota famous was Hazelden.

You’re going where? You must be on drugs!

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

“We Minnesotans owe him nothing but a debt of gratitude for understanding us…”

What about all the immigrants who are now Minnesotans? I havent heard to many GK shows about Mexicans or Somalians or Hmong people? Never heard any stories about blacks. They are “US” to you racist prick.

Not all of “US” are lutheran small towners who shoovle hot dish and coffee in our mouths. Some of “US: eat tomales, Pho, and Bean pies.

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

4blahs, can you believe that mthalo?
TJ, can you believe that mthalo?
tluck, can you believe that mthalo?
GSAHA, can you believe that mthalo?

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

“What really made Minnesota famous was Hazelden.”

Whats Hazelden?

“GSAHA, can you believe that mthalo?”

Whats Hazelden?

TJ says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

I think Minnesota is more well known for high taxes; then people started drinking and taking drugs to ease the stress of paying those high taxes and not having enough money to live on, and then came Hazelden. Looks like Hazelden is an after thought.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

Gypsy,

Hazelden is famous. But I alwya think of Betty Ford as being the lush.

My favorite famous MNans have to be Viva and Jerry.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

ttp://producers.mtn.org/vivaandjerry/

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

“But I alwya think”

Ever since I stopped looking at the keys when I type, this is the top of crap that happens. A L W A Y S

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

“Whats Hazelden?”

Its a hush hush, but yet very famous (In Hollywood) recovery center for boozers and pill poppers.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

And BM, if you want to know who really knows Mpls the best, its Paul Westerberg.

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

“Garrison Keillor (born Gary Edward Keillor on August 7, 1942 in Anoka, Minnesota) is an American author, storyteller, humorist, columnist, musician, satirist, radio personality and horrible neighbor.

He is best known as host of the Minnesota Public Radio show A Prairie Home Companion (also known as Garrison Keillor’s Radio Show on Britain’s BBC 7, as well as on Australia’s ABC and in Ireland).”

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

Whats Hazelden?

A great golf course!!

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

GypsyBiker.
Now there’s an epitaph

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

“Its a hush hush, but yet very famous (In Hollywood) recovery center for boozers and pill poppers.”

Is that the one at the old Humphries retreat on Waverly lake?

DGB says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

When you buy a property, you expect to be protected by the zoning laws. Problem is that Mpls / St Paul think nothing of granting variances.

A very similiar thing happend to me in Minneapolis. Our neighbor just about doubled the size of her home. Then a year later, she moved.

Mr Kellior has every right to sue them.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pm

“Is that the one at the old Humphries retreat on Waverly lake?”

You drive right past it in between Lindstrom and Taylors Falls.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

“Is that the one at the old Humphries retreat on Waverly lake?”

No

I can assure you that’s a NO.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

“I can assure you that’s a NO.”

I love inside jokes.

mthalo says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

“Thats stupid F-ing teeneager put mayo all over my subway again. He probably went to EP.”

Now here’s a great opportunity to demonstrate what I’m talking about.

The New Yorker will say “Hey a-hole, why the F did you put Fing mayo on my Fing sandwich when I SAID NO Fing MAYO”!

The Minneapolitan will, with a big smile, thank the clerk for putting the on the mayo, then complain to the manager.

Actually, the New York sandwich maker will tell you that you really want mustard on that.

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

The fact that his real name’s Gary and he calls himself Garrison is all you need to know!!

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

mthalo,

Nathan’s or Papaya King?

Also, I didnt notice the Mayo until after I took my first bite.

I hate when you’re going through the line and before the words “The Works?” are finished coming out of that little F-ing teenagers mouth Ive got Banana peppers and Jalapeno’s on my sub.

I make that little guy pick them off but sure as the sun rises in the east he’s doing’ it again the next day.

Average_Guy says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

“Mr Kellior has every right to sue them.” For what?? You don’t like the house next door so you sue? If I was keillor’s neighbor I’d paint my house the most god-awful color imaginable. If you don’t like you neighborhood, move.

tanks2478 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

his view of “open space and beyond” — will be obstructed by his neighbor’s 1,900 foot addition to an existing 2,124 foot home, reports the Star Tribune.

I believe I received an email with an amusing story about how Neighbor A didn’t want Neighbor B to build an addition to his house, because it would cut off his view of the mountains. Well, Neighbor B got it approved and built it anyway, and then arranged the shutters/siding in a suspicious 1-finger salute so not only did he deprive Neighbor A of his view of the mountains, now Neighbor A is reminded that he is #1 every day he looks out at his view. Classic.

Average_Guy says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

“The fact that his real name’s Gary and he calls himself Garrison is all you need to know!!”
Yup, just like 4blahs, born mark a, and Tiny Litess, born brimn. Both forced to change their names after being tasered for un-blogsmanship behavior!

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:36 pm

“If I was keillor’s neighbor I’d paint my house the most god-awful color imaginable. If you don’t like you neighborhood, move.”

If he lives on Summitt Ave or in that neighborhood, they have some pretty stiff zonig laws to preserve the integrity of the old feel there. He may have a case if this guy is going overboard.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:36 pm

“The fact that his real name’s Gary and he calls himself Garrison is all you need to know!!”

Like the guy I currently work with who likes to be Jonathon, not John. I call him Johnny every chance I get….

Hey I’m an old hockey/baseball guy. Everybody gets a “y” or “ie” at the end of there name.

Or Mary Johnson-Olson-Swenson-Olson

kerstenwho says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

For the record, it’s not a McMansion, per se. It’s a very large house in a neighborhood filled with historic, large homes. It was a mansion when it was built about 100 years ago. The whole neighborhood has homes of that size, and they’re all old houses.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

My uncle put a smoke house in his backyard big enough to smoke several deers at once. It was probably 1500 cubic feet. The city came and told him he could only have two permenant structres on his lot and he already did with a garage and house. Looking around he noticed all the ice houses parked in peoples yards during the summer with wheels on them. So his solution was to put wheels on the smoke house and move a ft in either direction every couple of days.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

“just like 4blahs, born mark a, and Tiny Litess, born brimn. Both forced to change their names after being tasered for un-blogsmanship behavior!”

Yep. They were bad bad boys.

Albatross says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

My neighbor built a three-car 16′ tall garage on his tiny urban lot, a garage with more footage than his house. Then he built a permanent shed right next to it, so our southern fence looks at nothing but buildings. Then he piles his scrap and his ladder on our side of the shed, so he doesn’t have to see it from his house.

When we scuffed up the sidewalk in front of his house lighting (legal) 4th of July fireworks, he told me we were “Not neighborly.”

Sue the bastiche Keillor, I say.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

Both forced to change their names after being tasered for un-blogsmanship behavior!

Tased bro? They were Kerstencuted

Average_Guy says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

“So his solution was to put wheels on the smoke house and move a ft in either direction every couple of days.” More than one way to skin a cat and bypass those stupid ordinances. I used to live in Andover, and one of my neighbors wanted to put up a shed. Ordinance said anything over 120 sq had to have a permit and he didn’t want to get one so he built his shed 10′ x 12′, but built it two stories high! Walla, no permit and 240 sf of storage.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

“Tased bro?”

I couldnt even protest. One minute your calling Brimn a filthy name and the next minute your TKKoed.

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

AG

Average_Guy says:

January 17th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

AG what?

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

It should have said:

AG, it must be h-ll getting the riding mower down from the 2nd floor.

Average_Guy says:

January 17th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

“AG, it must be h-ll getting the riding mower down from the 2nd floor.” You think?

Free Your Mind says:

January 17th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

So the way I understand this is the Olson’s wanted to add-on to their house. They went through all the time and BS to get a permit. All of the rules where followed. Now after the start of construction, GK wants to sue to stop the addition?

I like GK’s writing, but come on.

He sounds like a pompous a$$holio.

What a disappointment.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

“Walla, no permit and 240 sf of storage”

Thats a BIG meth lab….

dirtyspeed says:

January 17th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

There could be more to this story that we are hearing. But at first glance it is a pompous lawsuit. Did you see the picture of his house and Kiellors? Elephant and rabbit is pretty accurate.

I love his show and will continue to listen. But what strikes me as odd is that in a few broadcasts and his writings he talks about the city vs. suburban dwellers and he seems to imply that the suburban dwellers left the city to get away from dealing with other people and yet here he is using his money to deal with the cons of living in the city.

And of course if anyone knows him I believe it is safe to say that he is not a down home “folksy” guy, and I believe he doesnt pretend to be one. If you seen the movie he comes across as sort of a jerk backstage but knows what he is after. I like the guy, he is who he is, I may not be happy with his lawsuit but, meh, the Adventures of Guy Noir, The Lives of the Cowboys and the Tales from Lake Wobegon will always be radio favorites and I’ll still listen.

Michael Blaine says:

January 17th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

“DGB says:
January 17th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Mr Kellior has every right to sue them.”

I suspect you’re right, DGB. In any case, the court will decide the merits of the case, isn’t that right? Not KK(K) and a bunch of idle gossips. We have a legal process here, to which GK has every right to resort. If he loses the case, then he will have been wrong — not before.

A transplant friend of mine from Connecticut once described Minnesotans as the most unfriendly people he’d ever dealt with. He’s right. Just look at this blog on any given day!

Michael Blaine
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

“A transplant friend of mine from Connecticut once described Minnesotans as the most unfriendly people he’d ever dealt with. He’s right. Just look at this blog on any given day!”

Im sure GK knows this because he knows “US” so well doesnt he BM?

“I once introduced myself to him on an airplane, and he was as affable as could be. Later, at the luggage carousel, he conversed good-naturedly with others as they recognized him and began to chat.”

Do you know what this is called? Its called MN nice. In his mind he was saying , “Get away from me you stupid little Prick. I dont care that you have a blog.”

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

“Not KK(K)”

Boy is this clever.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

“He’s right. Just look at this blog on any given day!”

Pretty funny from a guy with a stupid blog called rudelystamped. I bet you misspelled that too. I’ll bet you meant crudelystamped

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

“The work was given a zoning variance and Heritage Preservation Commission approval.” - StarTribune.

Sounds like this, “My wife and I live in a historic St. Paul house in a historic neighborhood, and this gives us an obligation to defend the house and the neighborhood against violations of the beauty of Ramsey Hill.” isnt up to you GK.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

“I hear that excavator from down the Avenue
I smell the sawdust, and I want to puke.
Oh, my sweet, sweet, sweet old neighbor coming through the door
It’s Saturday and the band is playing
buddy, Ill see yooooou in court.”

-Garison Keilor

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

“Pretty funny from a guy with a stupid blog called rudelystamped”

Good one Tluck. A guy with a blog dedicated to rudeness calls other people unfriendly.

mthalo says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

“Nathan’s or Papaya King?”

Papaya King by a long shot, even though the one nearest to me required a willingness to temporarily drop any standards of cleanliness I might normally demand.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

My brother in law grew up on c@nal street. He is with you on Papaya King. I havent had one yet. Next time Im there Im going to give ‘em a try. The smothies look like a perfect counter to the saltiness of a good hot dog.

GypsyBiker says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

Rudely, I’m confused…you’re chastising everyone for criticizing Gary Keillor before the courts have weighed in…yet, if I go to your blog, I don’t get very far until you’ve tried and convicted Barry Bonds…so which is it….do your rules only apply to the rich or to white people?

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

Howdy everyone - long time no post for me - but I just had to weigh in on this.

First, Katherine, You have sometimes use the law to get your point across. Why didn’t you here? GK trying to use the “right to light and air” as a basis for a lawsuit. Come on!!

For all you non-lawyers out there or the ones that slept through first year Property. In the US (its different in England) a landowner does not have a Right to Light and Air (otherwise known as View) [unless a previous agreement was reached before and an easement was made.]
As long as a neighbor abides by all the zoning laws. He could build a house that puts you in perputual darkness. There is even a case where a guy built a house and was using solar energy to heat it. Then his neighbor came by and built a house that blocked the sunlight. So the first guy sued. Guess what - the court said the first guy had no right to light and air. Also happened with a big apartment building in New York when a bigger building got built next to it and blocked the first buildings light and view. Court said - no right to light and air.

I suspect that the reason the judge has let the lawsuit continue is not becuase of the light and air issue but that GK raised other issues. I believed GK has alledged the permit process was not done correctly.

Anyway. Please continue on but know this. GK does not have a right to light and air. He has a right to sue but suing on only the basis of a right to light and air is only going to get him and his lawyer knocked for a friviolous lawsuit.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

A guy with a blog dedicated to rudeness calls other people unfriendly.

I’m sure he’s the only Minnesotan this guy ever met.

tanks2478 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

shttp://www.hilaryshepherd.com/rantsnraves/2007/12/21/dispute-between-neighbors/

Here’s what I was referring to earlier - it’s slightly comical.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

Oh here is another case on the matter
Fontainebleau Hotel Corp. v. Forty-Five Twenty-Five, Inc.

mthalo says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

“My wife and I live in a historic St. Paul house in a historic neighborhood, and this gives us an obligation to defend the house and the neighborhood against violations of the beauty of Ramsey Hill.” isnt up to you GK.”

Unfortunately, it’s common for the limosine liberal set to feel an obligation to save the world from thje ignorant masses regardless of whether saving is needed, wanted, or asked for.
“Do as I say, not as I do.”

It’s really narcissism posing as a political stance, which explains why so many Hollywood stars lean so far to the left.

tanks2478 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

shttp://www.hilaryshepherd.com/rantsnraves/2007/12/21/dispute-between-neighbors/

let’s try this again - what i was referring to earlier - welcome back moi!!!

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

Hey MOI.
Nice to see your still with us. have a good one.

figh44 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

MOI: You’ve lost your edge in your absence. A property owner in Minnesota has an implied easement to light and air over a public way. This easement does not depend upon a prior agreement. An adjoining private property owner can interfere with that easement, thus giving rise to a nuisance action.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

Tanks, that is a good one.

marketplace_of_ideas says:

January 17th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

Figh44
Could you post either the statute or case law that establishes that right?

In all fairness, I did not go to law school in MN. The majority view is what I stated above. I went to law school in a majority state. I know there is a minority view - the one figh44 stated - but I was pretty sure that MN was not in the minority view on this one. But hey I could be wrong about this - Property rights are not my field.

So figh44 - shoot over the authorities you found on the subject.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

Garrison Keillor sounds like a real liberal prick, kind of like 4blabs.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

D2,

Dont you get that blah and blab are the same thing? Man you are dim. Im taking a crack at myself with the 4blahs bit. Get it? blah blah blah blah? Blab blab blab blab works just as well.

As long as you are calling me a liberal and Newbiz thinks Im in the GOP in know Im right were I need to be.

figh44 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

429 NW2d 244

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

Speaking of dim, you think someone is a racist if they are concerned that a Presidential candidate is heavily involved with a radical leftist church which just gave a lifetime achievement award to anti-American racist Nation of Islam leader Louis Farakkan.

Who should listen to you?

(Ya, ya, ya, I’m crying wolf again)

mthalo says:

January 17th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

“As long as you are calling me a liberal and Newbiz thinks Im in the GOP in know Im right were I need to be.”

It would be much better to start calling the right and left WINGS the right and left LEGS.

It would give a more accurate indication of what happens to the majority of Americans, given their position somewhere in between the right and the left legs.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

“A transplant friend of mine from Connecticut once described Minnesotans as the most unfriendly people he’d ever dealt with.”

Well BM if his wearing potty training pants and suckin’ on a pacifier while babbling a bunch of nonsense such as yourself, then he deserves some “unfriendly Treatment”

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

“racist”

“If the shoes fits where it, if the truth hurts bare it…..”

- Hank willimas III

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

Damn boys its Lazarus

Whats the deal marketplace_of_ideas Workhouse?

Hey BM have that dude give me buzz I’ll apologize for the bunch of us.

Michael Blaine says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:13 pm

As you all gossip about GK’s lawsuit, our national economy is melting down.

I just posted on the topic of an economic stimulus package at Rudely Stamped:

“Mao’s Little Red Accounting Book”

And, I am positive we Americans will get a stimulus package. Economic and political elites are running scared.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:14 pm

this slow down stuff is so lame

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

D2,

If shoe fits wear it, if the truth hurts bare it….

-Hank Williams III

You wear it so well.

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

“And, I am positive we Americans will get a stimulus package. Economic and political elites are running scared.”

The suckers. The smart ones are waiting for the prices to drop a little further and will then start buying at a discount. Its so simple, buy low sell high.

Besides it isnt a meltdown. You need some perspective pal. Remember Argentina?

4blahs says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

“I just posted on the topic of an economic stimulus package at Rudely Stamped”

No one cares. You should really get rid of the comment tracker on your blog. Its really making you look desperate, seeing that no one comments.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:22 pm

Number 4 in the Paul Kersey trilogy tonight. I don’t believe I’ve seen this one so I’m really excited….pause……really excited.

There’s a couple of things that I’ve learned that I’d like to pass on. First, if you’re a chick do not fall in love with Paul Kersey. It’s a death sentence. Second, Paul Kersey does not care much about due process.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:24 pm

Hey, I went out to BM’s website about 3 weeks ago and now I have a sore on my lip that I can’t get rid of.

What gives?

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

“if you’re a chick do not fall in love with Paul Kersey. It’s a death sentence.”

Like being the security gaurd on Star Trek that gets picked to part of the landing party. Your Chum Bait.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

“now I have a sore on my lip that I can’t get rid of.”

Tiny,
Don’t be kissin your privates.

DGB says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:31 pm

I have two comments for this blog:

#1. KK should have someone moderate and remove the vulgar, extraneous comments.

#2. Secondly, what you have cultivatied (by not moderating this forum) is an extremely offensive clientle, such as: 4blahs

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:32 pm

VOTE FOR CHANGE!

Get rid of the liberals who are controlling the HOUSE AND SENATE.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

“Tiny,Don’t be kissin your privates.”

Thats one of my yet unarchived lifetime goals….having said that I don’t think Gary Keillor is a very nice man, except to BM types.

PS Would save a guy allot of “goin’ out money”

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

DGB,
I agree with you 99.99 blog%.

#1. 4blahs is offensive but not as much as tiny

#2. So don’t let the door hit ya on the way out ya poser.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

Hey. I feel left out on the list of offensive commentors!

Just kinding. My views are really pretty mainsteam.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

Thanks for you contribution Gar

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:39 pm

Hey D2, how bout those illegals.
Did ya hear Bin Ladens 26 year old son wants to be a peacenik.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:46 pm

G.S.A.H.A.,

What will we do with all the illegals when the economy gets worse and people quit doing landscaping and putting off roofing projects?

I didn’t hear about Osama’s son, but I did hear that Barack Hussein Obama has a half brother in Kenya who is a radical Islamist trying to convert the country to strict Sharia law. Do you think that might hurt Obama’s chances at getting a security clearance?

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 6:58 pm

Simple I know how they can patch this thing up..you know the thing between the Keillors and the Olsons. Garrison could just go over there and solve it through song.

Garrison sings; (Sung to the tune of “If I had a Hammer”)

If I had a hammer
I’d hammer in your new addition
I’d smash it all in
I’d hammer out those windows
I’d hammer out those doors
I’d hammer out a lawsuit against my brothers and my sisters
All over this neighborhoodddddd.

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 7:00 pm

Everybody now… “A one and a two…”

tiny litess says:

January 17th, 2008 at 7:03 pm

Hey I’m a product of the 70’s. If Tinys the only one that thinks he’s funny, well that’s just fine!

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

Hey Tiny,

What did the liberal ambulance chasing trial lawyer name his daughter?

Sue, of course.

dare2sayit.com says:

January 17th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

Who the hell does Garrison Keillor think he is? His neighbor is simply trying to improve her home which she has every right to do, but because Mr. Keiller won’t like the view, he is suing her. I sure hope he is forced to pay for her legal expenses when this is thrown out of court.

This reminds me of another liberal with a similiar situation:
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Liberal darling Ted Kennedy has run afoul of the left over his opposition to a controversial wind farm project in Massachusetts.

Liberals “are now heaping scorn on the 73-year-old senator,” reports syndicated columnist Froma Harrop. “Young audiences boo at his name, and the leftish ‘Daily Show’ on Comedy Central makes fun of him.”

The energy-producing wind farm on Nantucket Sound was slated to be the first such project in the U.S., and polls showed that 84 percent of state residents favor it.

The Cape Wind Project would erect 130 windmills in Nantucket Sound and could provide three-fourths of the power needed by Cape Cod and nearby islands, which is now largely supplied by coal-fired plants.

But the project has been “frustrated at every turn by a handful of yachtsmen, Kennedy included, who don’t want to see windmills from their verandas,” writes Harrop, who’s on the staff of the Providence Journal. (Newsmax)
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DGB says:

January 17th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

G.S.A.H.A.

Another slacker.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

DBG,
If thats your real name, its nice to see your still here.
I see your a “name caller”. First yu whine and then you call others name. How mature. Got anything of substnce to post or are ya gonna be like everyone else here?

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

DGB says,

I have two comments for this blog:

#1. KK should have someone moderate and remove the vulgar, extraneous comments.

#2. Secondly, what you have cultivatied (by not moderating this forum) is an extremely offensive clientle, such as: 4blahs

You are so observant. If you would actually pay attention you would have noticed that Katherine does moderate and posted here today in response to a question. You also would have noticed that some people have been removed, as was also mentioned Obviously you are you are either BM or one of his very, very few sympathizers. DGB=Doorknob Gigantis Blaine

DGB says:

January 17th, 2008 at 8:48 pm

Sorry,

Most of you are just a bunch of spoiled slackers. If you didn’t have some forum to shoot your mouth off, or have other rant, I guess you’d just be watching some sitcom on TV.

Grow up. Buy a house. Experience the problems of life. You guy’s are so silly, you’re not worth arguing with, except to confront your juvenile behavior.

coldeye says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

Wow!
first visit to this “blog” (heh-heh).
Disapointment.
Lower level of thinking, objectivity and argumentation than the COLUMNIST herself.
Argues for old fashioned journalism.
The 4 letters in today’s Strib -from 15 year old students -conveyed more wisdom than Katherine’c column did though. No surprie - if you want the truth or wisdom - gotta go to the source.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

Grow up. Buy a house. Experience the problems of life. You guy’s are so silly, you’re not worth arguing with, except to confront your juvenile behavior.

Grow up: 48, Check
Buy a house: in #3, each better than the last Check
Experience problems: More than you easy Check
Silly:Tiny’s job
Juvenile bahavior: Your the one that agrees with Michael (I shamelessly promote my stupid blog) Blaine. So I guess you have me there.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

oops bEhavior

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:17 pm

tluck,
I beleive we have a shape shifter in the house. Not a very smart one though. DGB=Michelle Blaime. Garbage in garbage out.

DGB says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

It’s my guess you’re just a bunch of 20 something’s with the maturity of 13 yr olds.

Grow up. Contribute something material, adult, or leave!

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

“It’s my guess you’re just a bunch of 20 something’s with the maturity of 13 yr olds.”

We know you are but what are we.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

my guess is DGB=EPstudent2011. A phony child poser.

G.S.A.H.A. says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

“Grow up. Contribute something material, adult, or leave!”

Havent seen DBG contribute anything but tears.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

Grow up. Contribute something material, adult, or leave!

Pretty astute for someone who’s been here since 2:12 this afternoon.

But it is nice to see that your participating instead of pontificating Michael. Or not.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

Grow up. Contribute something material, adult, or leave!

Katherine doesn’t allow us to post adult material. She moderates this board you know.

DGB says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

All you guys: Buy a home, support a wife and family, get an adult life.

I haven’t read one thing that most of you have posted on this thread that deals with zoning, or property ownership.

What are you about? Trash talk? Makes you feel baddddd? It’s an embarassment that you are in the gene pool.

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

Ok I’ll bite.

When your neighbor in Mpls. added on to there home. Did they get all of the proper permits and variances? Did they talk to you prior to doubling the size of there home. Did you do anything to stop it?

tanks2478 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

Hi DGB!
I have a suggestion, or two:

A. Go to a different blog if you can’t contribute to this one comfortably.

B. Start your own and see what kind of riff raff you recruit.

Have a nice night!

tanks2478 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

But it is nice to see that your participating instead of pontificating Michael. Or not.

Hey tluck, did you mean “pun-tificating?” ;)

tanks2478 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood
a beautiful day in the neighborhood
could you be mine?
won’t you be mine?
oh won’t you be
my neighbor?

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

Hey tluck, did you mean “pun-tificating?” ;)

I don’t think Micheal understands puns, but he sure can pon!!!

Michael Blaine says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

“Do you think that might hurt Obama’s chances at getting a security clearance?”

No, any pervert, moron or alcohilic/drug addict who gets elected to a post in Washington gets access to classified information; see Patrick Kennedy, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, George W. Bush, et al.

Michael Blaine
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com

tluck says:

January 17th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

No, any pervert, moron or alcohilic/drug addict who gets elected to a post in Washington gets access to classified information; see Patrick Kennedy, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, George W. Bush, et al.

Wow, add Wiliam Jefferson, Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid, and Diane Feinstien and we might almost agree.

Of course then I’d have to book sometime in Tiny’s garage, with Tiny’s Malibu

DGB says:

January 18th, 2008 at 8:56 am

tluck asks: “When your neighbor in Mpls. added on to there home. Did they get all of the proper permits and variances? Did they talk to you prior to doubling the size of there home. Did you do anything to stop it? ”

This is how it works: You take your plans to the city. If the plans are within the zoning laws, you can do the project. If they are in conflict with the zoning laws, then the home owner must apply for a variance.

The problem is that Minneapolis grants these variances for just about anything - they have this boiler plate term: hardship. The city gets money for building permits, and more taxes on the improved home.

It’s my guess that these folks told Mr Kellior that they were going to build a garage. Instead it’s a two story building.

tluck says:

January 18th, 2008 at 9:23 am

DBG,

I’ll assume that’s a yes to the first question. How about the other two?

4blahs says:

January 18th, 2008 at 9:25 am

Go get your shine box DGB.

DGB says:

January 18th, 2008 at 10:14 am

tluck,

#1. No my neighbor didn’t talk to me about it.

#2. I went to the zoning variance meeting. It was a joke. As I said they (the city) makes up it’s mind before the meeting. When the home owner goes there, the decision has already been made. I then went to the Mpls City Council meeting with my lawyer. Everyone should go to atleast one city council meeting, it will help them understand why things are so screwed up in the Twin Cities.

In the end, you just give up.

tluck says:

January 18th, 2008 at 10:39 am

DGB,

While my tendency would always be to side with the property owner if everything was done on the up and up (property rights). If variances are being rubber stamped to bring a few more buck into the city without reasonable discussion I’d have a problem with that. It’s always been my experience that they are not easy to get without a well reasoned argument. Then again your talking about the ultra-liberals in Minneapolis who would do almost anything to get there hands on some easy money.

DGB says:

January 18th, 2008 at 11:32 am

tluck,

Here’s my frustration: The set back on our block was 25′. My neighbor wanted to add a two car garage to the front of her home. But really what she wanted was to add an extra bedroom, above the garage. So Mpls allowed her a 20′ setback. Because she had a ‘hardship’. The hardship was she couldn’t legally do it without a variance. Why would a single person need a 3 bedroom home?

The next summer she sold the home.

I’d say it’s a rubber stamp system.

tluck says:

January 18th, 2008 at 12:06 pm

Because she had a ‘hardship’. The hardship was she couldn’t legally do it without a variance.”

I could understand a “hardship” if she was disabled or something like that. Are not variances supposed to be hard. Glad I don’t live in Mpls.

I think the difference between your case and Keillor’s is that at least they spoke to him prior to doing the work. If he had an objection he should have raised it then or when the variances were issued. To file suit after construction had begun seems, as I said before, inexcusable.

DGB says:

January 18th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

tluck;

I guess they said “we want to build a garage”. I bet they didn’t say: “We want to build a garage that’s as large as our current home”

You can’t stop them from going to the zoning board, and you can’t stop the board from granting the variance - about the only thing you can do is sue.

4blahs says:

January 18th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

“I guess they said “we want to build a garage”. I bet they didn’t say: “We want to build a garage that’s as large as our current home””

Dont you have to get the plans approved before you get the variance? Isnt that part of the process? You make it sound like they omitted material facts with regards to size and scope of the project. Are you suggesting they lied and the board never asked to see specs?

DGB says:

January 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

4blahs:

What I’m saying is that the neighbors probably said to Kellior “we’re planning on building a garage”. And Kellior didn’t think much about it. I think this is why Kellior is suing them now - cause the ‘garage’ turned out to be a house!

Most assuredly, the people had architectual plans that they submitted to the zoning board. And the zoning rubberstamped the variance.

tluck says:

January 18th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

I guess they said “we want to build a garage”. I bet they didn’t say: “We want to build a garage that’s as large as our current home”

You can’t stop them from going to the zoning board, and you can’t stop the board from granting the variance - about the only thing you can do is sue.

There’s a lot of speculation here. My point was they did talk to Keillor. If he had an, I don’t care what you little people do attitude, that’s his problem. Once they told him it becomes HIS responsibility to:
1. Ask to see their plans, if they refused then
2. Make sure he knew when the zoning and variance meetings were going to take place to get a look at them and make objections. I believe that Keillor would have carried a little more weight at the meetings then your average Joe.
3. If they did approve the variance file the suit right then and there.

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